Then ban Me you fucking Pussy

[Waikiki]

Sajko

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Last I knew Freedom of Speech doesn't apply to privately run internet message boards. Perhaps you'd like to read up on what 'Freedom of Speech' actually means before you throw it around like an ignoramus.

I just assumed since most of the liberal America hater types always use Freedom of Speech, they might actually believe in it as a priciple not just ever so selectively when it applies to their benefit. I stand corrected. Thank you for the clarification.

[Arborealus]

Wow you conservatives support anyone's right to say anything, anywhere at anytime...I'll be over to read porn to your kids and mom at 1am...

Read Locke...

[Kilrain]

For the record I'm against Cart's banning as well. Winnow's right on this one.

[Nali]

He -did- ask for it, right

Also... how did this turn into a match between liberals and conservatives?

[Kylere]

He -did- ask for it, right

Also... how did this turn into a match between liberals and conservatives?

Everything does on VV, it is like crips and bloods.

[Leonaerd]

Sylvus tried to handle the situation in a civilized controlled manor, Cart basically threw it back in his face and said 'ban me'. I find it very hard to have any sympathy for Cartalas then getting perma-banned.

What would you have done had you been presented with an identical PM? Been civilized and vowed to change?

Cartalas had infrequently entertaining posts, some of which I'll miss. I think, as other people have said in this thread, the idea of permanently banning goes against what VV stands for. I certainly don't think trolling should be a bannable offense on a board with an Ignore option. Maybe I'm just a lot better at handling trashy posts than others. Whatever. The Gestapo will probably have me post more conservatively from now on.

[kyoukan]

Everything does on VV, it is like crips and bloods.

Or smart people and people like yourself.

[Arborealus]

It's the suede/denim secret police,
they have come for your uncool niece!

[Winnow]

Everything does on VV, it is like crips and bloods.

Or smart people and people like yourself.

kyoukan's right. How can we compete with such witty comebacks like that one?

I remember Searyx. Searxy annoyed the hell out of me. Cartalas is no Searyx. Cartalas annoys a subset of VV posters, not the entire board. He doesn't spam the boards, he emulates kyoukan's shitty one-liners which makes it even more ironic that he was banned.

I say again. You are picking and choosing depending on groups of people on this one and not the overall board majority. I'm sure you'll live with it but it's so fucking lame.

Clinging to the motto, "he asked for it" is also extremely weak and desperate. Threatening PM's on this board aren't going to get things done. Hasn't anyone learned from their experiences with customer service of any kind? You attempt a friendly approach, "hey, what's up? I'm getting some PMs from members that are complaining about your posts. Can you mix it up a bit or alter your approach? They are wanting a ban based on our rule of no RL picture flames. Thanks." If I saw PM like that with a "then ban me you fucking pussy" response from Cart then you'd have more of a point.

I'm also bothered by responses that keep claiming this is a private message board and freedom of speech doesn't apply...of course it doesn't...nothing is required here but if you go back to why the board was created and its flame history, that shouldn't need to be pointed out. This board was nowhere near being overwhelmed by Cart and was functioning just dandy. The board was created to provide an arena for discussions and flames without moderation where people could go off on each other without being banned...not a place for a few inner circle people to fruit out and ban those that irritate their particular favorites. I like most of the people that are for banning Cart. As someone wrongly pointed out earlier in this post, I don't change my ideals and ways based on who I think will like me or not. That's something for fraternities and cliquès to stress over.

Cart did contribute to this board. He pointed out kyoukan's idiocy in his own satirical mimicry. He also had more than his share of funny lines. He deserves a time-ban for RL picture flames and nothing more.

[Aslanna]

Oh noz someone has invoked the tale of the boards creation. We're doomed now. Doomed!

[kyoukan]

This message board was created because people weren't happy with the administration of the old one. If you're not happy, I reiterate, please fucking leave and start your own. Feel free to take along anyone that can fucking tolerate you with you. When I was dissatisfied, I left until things changed.

I cannot stress enough the fact that you are perfectly free to go away at any time. In fact I encourage it.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

This message board was created because people weren't happy with the administration of the old one. If you're not happy, I reiterate, please fucking leave and start your own. Feel free to take along anyone that can fucking tolerate you with you. When I was dissatisfied, I left until things changed.

I cannot stress enough the fact that you are perfectly free to go away at any time. In fact I encourage it.

Now you are telling those you don't like to go away. I thought we just established you just ban those you don't like. I'm confused.

[Winnow]

I cannot stress enough the fact that you are perfectly free to go away at any time. In fact I encourage it.

I don't get all CAPPED out over things like you do so there's no need to take a break.

You could always get your buddies together and have me banned.

Nice retorts BTW. Some substance would be nice.

[Drinsic Darkwood]

Last I knew Freedom of Speech doesn't apply to privately run internet message boards. Perhaps you'd like to read up on what 'Freedom of Speech' actually means before you throw it around like an ignoramus.

I just assumed since most of the liberal America hater types always use Freedom of Speech, they might actually believe in it as a priciple not just ever so selectively when it applies to their benefit. I stand corrected. Thank you for the clarification.

Because our freedom of speech in America is absolutely unlimited and unrestricted, right? Wait, it's not. It has rules.

Veeshanvault has rules, and Cartalas refused to comply. Fuck him. I can't recall a single post from Cartalas that made me think "I'm glad I read that."

Flame him instead of ban him? Why? To what end? The moron had to know he was wrong and just took pleasure in pissing people off without contributing fuckall. Cartalas was murdered verbally in every argument he ever took part in, and you could tell he enjoyed it. Where's the fun in beating a cripple in a foot-race?

He was worthless. He added nothing. His one-liners were never clever or entertaining in the slightest, and his grammatical capabilities were akin to a fifth-grader's. If you think his horseshit was funny, that says leagues more about you than it does him.

I've never had a strong desire to see anyone banned, but if forced to choose someone, it would be Cartalas. Only good things can come from this.

[Kylere]

If everyone who disagreed with Kyoukan left, this board would be nothing but a select few blowing each other over how great they are.

Damn near to that as it is. Besides which, if we are voting people off, lets do it by donating to VV, if you pay for a months service, you can pick someone to kick off! Buy 12 months you can pick 15! Or hell, lets just ban anyone who has never given a cent, then only members with expendable income can post.

[Leonaerd]

5 people sent PMs, and the other 45 browsers of this messageboard didn't. Feeding the majority or the cliqk?

[Waikiki]

Gentlemen, we got 20 calls about the David Hyde-Pierce incident. And as you know, one call equals a billion people, which means 20 billion people were offended by this. Needless to say, something must be done.

[kyoukan]

Now you are telling those you don't like to go away. I thought we just established you just ban those you don't like. I'm confused.

take my word for it, you sanctimonious little douche bag: If people got banned because I didn't like them, your post count history for VV would have been 1.

[Zaelath]

Flame him instead of ban him? Why? To what end? The moron had to know he was wrong and just took pleasure in pissing people off without contributing fuckall. Cartalas was murdered verbally in every argument he ever took part in, and you could tell he enjoyed it. Where's the fun in beating a cripple in a foot-race?

It wasn't just that, at the end of the race he'd say, "HAHA, MADE YOU RUN!".

[MooZilla]

Like I give a fuck, Veeshanvault has been dying a slow death anyways. Your little shitclan have run off all the worth while posters anyways. See ya folks have fun with your " OMG BUSH IS THE DEBIL THREADS"

Apparently, he did give a fuck.

I'm just curious as to who he was refering to as "worth while posters".

I guess he misses Searyx.

Never liked Cart, pesonally. Always found him to be an over-obnoxious douche. If he asked to be banned, let's grant him his last wish.

[Fairweather Pure]

There's actually more at stake here than just Cart's banning from this board. We need to back our mod when they enforce one of the very, very few rules we have here. If a person cannot manage to handle those very simple rules, then fuck em. You shouldn't have broken the rules. It's not like he hasn't been warned repeaditly in the past.

I would've done the same thing if anyone would have posted what he did, in the manner he did after several warnings. I support Sylvus's decision 100%. I can't believe people are making such a federal case out of a very open and shut incident.

[Winnow]

There's actually more at stake here than just Cart's banning from this board. We need to back our mod when they enforce one of the very, very few rules we have here. If a person cannot manage to handle those very simple rules, then fuck em. You shouldn't have broken the rules. It's not like he hasn't been warned repeaditly in the past.

Fuck that! It's more fun to debate it. Are we going to lose the shibboleth of the VV members, "We know Drama" as well?

I respect everything that Sylvus says on this board. It would have been fun to knock back a few more drinks with him before he had to check out early from the FF, but if he wants to buy my silence, he knows it would merely take sending me a quick sketch from Steve McNiven of Sue Richards sporting a cametoe. I'm not asking for much here.

Life goes on around the rest of VV.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

I would've done the same thing if anyone would have posted what he did, in the manner he did after several warnings. .

He shouldn't have been confronted in PMs by Sylvus in the first place. Sylvus should have told the fuckign pussys who PM'd him to use the ignore feature or just grow a set and not read his posts or stop being so sensitive or stop enticing Cart in every thread and then act shocked when he responds in kind. You created the monster he became.

[Funkmasterr]

Well if nothing else, this whole experience has reminded me how much I really truly detest some of you worthless fuckstains, and I thank you all for that.

[Nick]

Boo fucking hoo.

[Fairweather Pure]

I would've done the same thing if anyone would have posted what he did, in the manner he did after several warnings. .

He shouldn't have been confronted in PMs by Sylvus in the first place. Sylvus should have told the fuckign pussys who PM'd him to use the ignore feature or just grow a set and not read his posts or stop being so sensitive or stop enticing Cart in every thread and then act shocked when he responds in kind. You created the monster he became.

Really? No warnings then? It was simply a PMed warning. I don't see what's so confrontational about a mod, you know, MODERATING. Do you think it was a greta idea for Cart to post said PM on the board, daring him to get banned? Should he have no repercussions for his continued breaking of the board rules and blatant disregard for his repeated warnings?

I thought Sylvus moderated VV exactely how I would expect. Knock it the fuck off or I'll ban your ass. If anything, I thought he was too nice.

I hope everyone here takes away a bit of knowledge from all this. Do not fuck with the mods. Do not tempt fate. Follow the whopping 2 fucking rules we have on this board or else you'll get banned. That's really all this boils down to. If you read anything more into it, I hope you're wearing a goddamn tinfoil hat.

[Funkmasterr]

I would've done the same thing if anyone would have posted what he did, in the manner he did after several warnings. .

He shouldn't have been confronted in PMs by Sylvus in the first place. Sylvus should have told the fuckign pussys who PM'd him to use the ignore feature or just grow a set and not read his posts or stop being so sensitive or stop enticing Cart in every thread and then act shocked when he responds in kind. You created the monster he became.

Really? No warnings then? It was simply a PMed warning. I don't see what's so confrontational about a mod, you know, MODERATING. Do you think it was a greta idea for Cart to post said PM on the board, daring him to get banned? Should he have no repercussions for his continued breaking of the board rules and blatant disregard for his repeated warnings?

I thought Sylvus moderated VV exactely how I would expect. Knock it the fuck off or I'll ban your ass. If anything, I thought he was too nice.

I hope everyone here takes away a bit of knowledge from all this. Do not fuck with the mods. Do not tempt fate. Follow the whopping 2 fucking rules we have on this board or else you'll get banned. That's really all this boils down to. If you read anything more into it, I hope you're wearing a goddamn tinfoil hat.

Except thats not the way it is and you know it- thats the point. If it was that simple kyoukan and nick to name a few would already be permanently banned.

[Fairweather Pure]

If anyone would've not only ignored the multiple warnings, but posted the exact msg on the board that Cart did, yes, I believe they would've been banned.

It was a really stupid decision on Cart's part and I feel no pity when people get what they deserve.

It's funny to see so much outrage over this. It's like when people defend the criminal who was shot while he was breaking into someone's house. I don't understand how you have a leg to stand on in this discussion, except what you're making up in your head. You people have some weird, and totally fucked up sense of outrage.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

If
It's funny to see so much outrage over this. It's like when people defend the criminal who was shot while he was breaking into someone's house. I don't understand how you have a leg to stand on in this discussion, except what you're making up in your head. You people have some weird, and totally fucked up sense of outrage.

I can't speak for others, but I'm having no "outrage" at all. Just trying to have a conversation and express my opinions.

[Fairweather Pure]

If
It's funny to see so much outrage over this. It's like when people defend the criminal who was shot while he was breaking into someone's house. I don't understand how you have a leg to stand on in this discussion, except what you're making up in your head. You people have some weird, and totally fucked up sense of outrage.

I can't speak for others, but I'm having no "outrage" at all. Just trying to have a conversation and express my opinions.

Then ignore my last paragraph if it dosen't apply to you, and instead address the overall point of my posts.

[Nick]

Jesus, you just compared me to Cart....


Oh wait, it was Funk.

Jesus I was worried it was someone intelligent there for a second.

Yeah, all those violent sexual attacks I make and it's true, every single post I make is a one liner where I never discuss the issue at hand, especially in CE! It's totally the same thing because you see I'm against the war whilst you're a fucking hick! Great logic. Christ almight you really are a fucking idiot

[Funkmasterr]

Jesus, you just compared me to Cart....


Oh wait, it was Funk.

Jesus I was worried it was someone intelligent there for a second.

Yeah, all those violent sexual attacks I make and it's true, every single post I make is a one liner where I never discuss the issue at hand, especially in CE! It's totally the same thing because you see I'm against the war whilst you're a fucking hick! Great logic. Christ almight you really are a fucking idiot

Way to totally miss the point. He said it was as simple as if you break one of the two rules you get banned, I stated that you and kyoukan have both broken one or both of those rules (you made a comment about my rl picture) - so following that logic you should be permanently banned.

[Zaelath]

Well if nothing else, this whole experience has reminded me how much I really truly detest some of you worthless fuckstains, and I thank you all for that.

Feeling's mutual, you worthless wigger fuckbag.

[Dregor Thule]

I miss Searyx. He never annoyed me at all

[Nick]

Way to totally miss the point. He said it was as simple as if you break one of the two rules you get banned, I stated that you and kyoukan have both broken one or both of those rules (you made a comment about my rl picture) - so following that logic you should be permanently banned.

Well hey man, I'll apologise for that now Sorry. Feel free to PM Sylvus to ban me if you like. I don't personally think comparing anything I've ever written to "LOL CUNT" for 4 years straight is cool but if that seems cool to you, go for it.

[Fairweather Pure]

Jesus, you just compared me to Cart....


Oh wait, it was Funk.

Jesus I was worried it was someone intelligent there for a second.

Yeah, all those violent sexual attacks I make and it's true, every single post I make is a one liner where I never discuss the issue at hand, especially in CE! It's totally the same thing because you see I'm against the war whilst you're a fucking hick! Great logic. Christ almight you really are a fucking idiot

Way to totally miss the point. He said it was as simple as if you break one of the two rules you get banned, I stated that you and kyoukan have both broken one or both of those rules (you made a comment about my rl picture) - so following that logic you should be permanently banned.

Actually, Cart recieved warnings for those things and continued to do them. I have no idea if Nick had someone PM a mod if he violated a rule. If so, he's either stopped doing it, or no one felt offended enough to report him in the first place.

Furthermore, he didn't make a message daring the mod to ban him and throw a couple insults in for good measure.

So, you're missing the point.

[Funkmasterr]

Jesus, you just compared me to Cart....


Oh wait, it was Funk.

Jesus I was worried it was someone intelligent there for a second.

Yeah, all those violent sexual attacks I make and it's true, every single post I make is a one liner where I never discuss the issue at hand, especially in CE! It's totally the same thing because you see I'm against the war whilst you're a fucking hick! Great logic. Christ almight you really are a fucking idiot

Way to totally miss the point. He said it was as simple as if you break one of the two rules you get banned, I stated that you and kyoukan have both broken one or both of those rules (you made a comment about my rl picture) - so following that logic you should be permanently banned.

Actually, Cart recieved warnings for those things and continued to do them. I have no idea if Nick had someone PM a mod if he violated a rule. If so, he's either stopped doing it, or no one felt offended enough to report him in the first place.

Furthermore, he didn't make a message daring the mod to ban him and throw a couple insults in for good measure.

So, you're missing the point.

So it's not as simple as the two rules like you said it was originally, hypocrit?

[Trias]

this board has an "ignore" feature...i don't think banning is necessary at all.

[Thess]

Sylvus tried to handle the situation in a civilized controlled manor, Cart basically threw it back in his face and said 'ban me'. I find it very hard to have any sympathy for Cartalas then getting perma-banned.

What would you have done had you been presented with an identical PM? Been civilized and vowed to change?

Cartalas had infrequently entertaining posts, some of which I'll miss. I think, as other people have said in this thread, the idea of permanently banning goes against what VV stands for. I certainly don't think trolling should be a bannable offense on a board with an Ignore option. Maybe I'm just a lot better at handling trashy posts than others. Whatever. The Gestapo will probably have me post more conservatively from now on.

I would have replied back to him in a PM, and tried to work things out. If I disagreed with what he said, I would have argued it, however there wasn't much to argue with when he consistently broke the few rules we've had since day one.

I really hope you aren't serious about the gestapo comments, they are beyond absurd.

[Arborealus]

Sylvus tried to handle the situation in a civilized controlled manor, Cart basically threw it back in his face and said 'ban me'. I find it very hard to have any sympathy for Cartalas then getting perma-banned.

What would you have done had you been presented with an identical PM? Been civilized and vowed to change?

Cartalas had infrequently entertaining posts, some of which I'll miss. I think, as other people have said in this thread, the idea of permanently banning goes against what VV stands for. I certainly don't think trolling should be a bannable offense on a board with an Ignore option. Maybe I'm just a lot better at handling trashy posts than others. Whatever. The Gestapo will probably have me post more conservatively from now on.

I would have replied back to him in a PM, and tried to work things out. If I disagreed with what he said, I would have argued it, however there wasn't much to argue with when he consistently broke the few rules we've had since day one.

I really hope you aren't serious about the gestapo comments, they are beyond absurd.

Not necessarily! See my treatise on similarities between Sylvus and Himmler in his myspace comments!

[Leonaerd]

Sylvus tried to handle the situation in a civilized controlled manor, Cart basically threw it back in his face and said 'ban me'. I find it very hard to have any sympathy for Cartalas then getting perma-banned.

What would you have done had you been presented with an identical PM? Been civilized and vowed to change?

Cartalas had infrequently entertaining posts, some of which I'll miss. I think, as other people have said in this thread, the idea of permanently banning goes against what VV stands for. I certainly don't think trolling should be a bannable offense on a board with an Ignore option. Maybe I'm just a lot better at handling trashy posts than others. Whatever. The Gestapo will probably have me post more conservatively from now on.

I would have replied back to him in a PM, and tried to work things out. If I disagreed with what he said, I would have argued it, however there wasn't much to argue with when he consistently broke the few rules we've had since day one.

I really hope you aren't serious about the gestapo comments, they are beyond absurd.

But funny.

[Fairweather Pure]

Jesus, you just compared me to Cart....


Oh wait, it was Funk.

Jesus I was worried it was someone intelligent there for a second.

Yeah, all those violent sexual attacks I make and it's true, every single post I make is a one liner where I never discuss the issue at hand, especially in CE! It's totally the same thing because you see I'm against the war whilst you're a fucking hick! Great logic. Christ almight you really are a fucking idiot

Way to totally miss the point. He said it was as simple as if you break one of the two rules you get banned, I stated that you and kyoukan have both broken one or both of those rules (you made a comment about my rl picture) - so following that logic you should be permanently banned.

Actually, Cart recieved warnings for those things and continued to do them. I have no idea if Nick had someone PM a mod if he violated a rule. If so, he's either stopped doing it, or no one felt offended enough to report him in the first place.

Furthermore, he didn't make a message daring the mod to ban him and throw a couple insults in for good measure.

So, you're missing the point.

So it's not as simple as the two rules like you said it was originally, hypocrit?

Someone would have to complain first and point it out to the mod, who would then send that person a PM warning. That person would then stop whatever they were doing. If no one PMs the mod, exactely how will they know or care that someone has broken a rule? Why do I have to explain this to you anyway? Can your mind not fill in the fucking blanks, or do you take everything in life my it's literal meaning? You cannot be this stupid. Oh wait. This is Funkmaster, your stupidity is legendary on this board. Fucking legendary.

And if you think it's a wild conspiricy, no one can stand you at all on this board and you haven't been banned yet.

And for God's sake, look up the word hypocrite in a dictionary before posting here and completely cementing the fact of what a goddamn simpleton you are.

I think I've had 2 warnings on this board since it's inception. I don't think I'm the only one either. I just do as the mod asks of me and move on.

[Sylvos]

hay guyz wuts goin on????????

[Lalanae]

hay guyz wuts goin on????????

hows Norman doin?

[Ransure]

I think Ive still only read every 3rd or 4th post in this thread, but this is the best VV drama weve seen in a while.

A++ will read again.

[noel]

Based on their comments in this thread, I'm looking forward to PMing Sylvus to have Funkmasterr, Midnyte and Leonard perma-banned.

[Zamtuk]

I love how the "fnord" had cart banned. not this thread with nothing but proof that he did it himself.

really you dumbshits, the title of this thread nullifies every single post arguing why cart shouldn't be banned.

[Tegellan]

I am looking forward to PMing Sylvus to have Kyoukan banned myself, soon these boards will be empty!

I totally support Cart getting banned btw.

[Ransure]

Teg is a Dane... I think their vote shouldnt count here!!!!!

Teg