Um yeah....Iraq

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » March 27, 2007, 2:03 pm

Last I checked, we were not forcing anyone into US military service and executing them if they failed to serve. Most of the German army was forced into service....it was their elite branches that were the volunteers.

cadalano · Post by **cadalano** » March 27, 2007, 2:22 pm

Yes and as such those volunteer troops, mostly Waffen-SS, were largely exempt from the Nuremburg protection of judgement provided to conscripts. So should our volunteers also be judged?

Its just a case to case thing for me, I guess. But for the most part I agree with Sylvus.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » March 27, 2007, 10:44 pm

kyoukan wrote:Unfortunately so far the response has been "SEND MORE!"

Why should they not send more? They clearly aren't getting the job done with the numbers that are over there presently. Since the start of this war there hasn't been enough troops in country.

If they don't send enough troops to make a difference, they need to send them all home.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » March 27, 2007, 10:48 pm

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:Last I checked, we were not forcing anyone into US military service and executing them if they failed to serve.

economically you are, with your greed and shitass distribution of wealth.

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » March 27, 2007, 11:42 pm

Tristinn wrote:Thanks for your input Mr. Hannity.

9th post

miir · Post by **miir** » March 28, 2007, 10:20 am

Spang wrote:Why should they not send more? They clearly aren't getting the job done with the numbers that are over there presently. Since the start of this war there hasn't been enough troops in country.

If they don't send enough troops to make a difference, they need to send them all home.

Why do you people still refer to it as a war?

Spang · Post by **Spang** » March 28, 2007, 11:42 am

Why should they not send more? They clearly aren't getting the job done with the numbers that are over there presently. Since the start of this armed conflict there hasn't been enough troops in country.

If they don't send enough troops to make a difference, they need to send them all home.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » March 28, 2007, 12:09 pm

You currently have more troops stationed in Germany than you do in Iraq and you think adding another 20,000 will solve the country's problems?

You could add in another million troops, it's not going to change the fact that most Iraqis fucking hate you.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » March 28, 2007, 12:20 pm

That may have been GW's idea, but it wasn't mine.

miir · Post by **miir** » March 28, 2007, 12:39 pm

Spang wrote:Why should they not send more? They clearly aren't getting the job done with the numbers that are over there presently. Since the start of this armed conflict there hasn't been enough troops in country.

If they don't send enough troops to make a difference, they need to send them all home.

Wars and armed conflicts generally involve at least two defined sides. Since you guys rolled the Iraqi military and decimated the government in the first few weeks, your enemy in this war has been a bit unclear.... who exactly are you at war (sorry... in armed conflict) with now?

Iraqi citizens?
Terrorists?
Insurgents?

Call it what it is.
It's a hostile occupation of a sovereign nation.

If you think sending in more troops will make the situation better, you're even more deluded than George Bush.

They clearly aren't getting the job done with the numbers that are over there presently.

What job?
If the original job was to give the country stability, you shouldn't have fucking gone there in the first place.
If the original job was to remove Saddam from power, you accomplished that ages ago.

Since you have no defined enemy in Iraq, what exactly will adding more troops accomplish?

Spang · Post by **Spang** » March 28, 2007, 12:52 pm

Why should they not send more? They clearly aren't getting the job done with the numbers that are over there presently. Since the start of this hostile occupation of a sovereign nation there hasn't been enough troops in country.

If they don't send enough troops to make a difference, they need to send them all home.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » March 28, 2007, 12:56 pm

miir wrote:What job?
If the original job was to give the country stability, you shouldn't have fucking gone there in the first place.
If the original job was to remove Saddam from power, you accomplished that ages ago.

Since you have no defined enemy in Iraq, what exactly will adding more troops accomplish?

There are a lot of units over there doing a lot of different things. You'll have to call them up and ask them. I just think it's easier and quicker to get shit done with more people.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » March 28, 2007, 1:11 pm

kyoukan wrote:You currently have more troops stationed in Germany than you do in Iraq and you think adding another 20,000 will solve the country's problems?

You could add in another million troops, it's not going to change the fact that most Iraqis fucking hate you.

I'm sure they love you sniping Canadians. It's great that you like to kill people from miles away and let the U.S. take the PR hits...gee, that sounds familiar. And don't tell me Canadians are only in Afghanistan. You're everywhere like the plague. It's all Black Ops.

Fucking murderers. That was just a goat herder you blew apart.

miir · Post by **miir** » March 28, 2007, 2:21 pm

Spang wrote:Why should they not send more? They clearly aren't getting the job done with the numbers that are over there presently. Since the start of this hostile occupation of a sovereign nation there hasn't been enough troops in country.

If they don't send enough troops to make a difference, they need to send them all home.

In all seriousness.
How exactly will sending more troops help?

Has there been any marked change in the situation in Iraq when troop levels have changed in the past few years? If I recall correctly, when troop levels in 2005 increased from 120k to 150k there was actually in increase in attacks/deaths and a decrease in stability.

How many is enough, in your opinion?
300k?
500k?
700k?

What are those hundreds of thousands of US military going to do? Lockdown the entire country until they promise to behave themselves?

They cant even keep themselves in a stable environment... how the hell are they going to keep a country of 27 million people safe and stable? They can't even keep the fucking green zone in Baghdad safe from enemy attack... and it's a tiny 100 area area.

miir · Post by **miir** » March 28, 2007, 2:24 pm

Winnow wrote:Fucking murderers. That was just a goat herder you blew apart.

The goats thank us.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » March 28, 2007, 2:38 pm

Winnow wrote: I'm sure they love you sniping Canadians. It's great that you like to kill people from miles away and let the U.S. take the PR hits...gee, that sounds familiar. And don't tell me Canadians are only in Afghanistan. You're everywhere like the plague. It's all Black Ops.

Fucking murderers. That was just a goat herder you blew apart.

That was simply awful. You are by far the shittiest troll on these forums and it fucking disgusts me watching you try to participate in any conversation outside the comic book forum.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » March 28, 2007, 2:46 pm

You used that one already. Repeat flame!

Spang · Post by **Spang** » March 28, 2007, 2:50 pm

miir wrote:In all seriousness.
How exactly will sending more troops help?

Has there been any marked change in the situation in Iraq when troop levels have changed in the past few years? If I recall correctly, when troop levels in 2005 increased from 120k to 150k there was actually in increase in attacks/deaths and a decrease in stability.

How many is enough, in your opinion?
300k?
500k?
700k?

What are those hundreds of thousands of US military going to do? Lockdown the entire country until they promise to behave themselves?

They cant even keep themselves in a stable environment... how the hell are they going to keep a country of 27 million people safe and stable? They can't even keep the fucking green zone in Baghdad safe from enemy attack... and it's a tiny 100 area area.

Atleast 300,000. I said that a few posts ago. There are so many different missions going on over there right now that don't involve killing arabs. With more troops, the missions get done quicker. That's kind of what happens when more people are involved.

Cleaning up a football stadium after a game and hostiley (that a word?) occupying a sovereign nation are not the same thing but, let's say you were tasked to clean up a football stadium after a game. It would take you quite a while. If they tasked you and 20 other people, it would get done much faster.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » March 28, 2007, 3:32 pm

In that case, put a million in there and be finished by mid-April.

miir · Post by **miir** » March 28, 2007, 3:44 pm

Spang wrote: Cleaning up a football stadium after a game and hostiley (that a word?) occupying a sovereign nation are not the same thing but, let's say you were tasked to clean up a football stadium after a game. It would take you quite a while. If they tasked you and 20 other people, it would get done much faster.

A better analogy.

You and 20 of your buddies break into someone home, break all their shit and make a big fucking mess for a few years.

Now you have to clean up the mess... but the homeowners just want you to get the fuck out.

Well 10 of your buddies are still trashing the place and the other 10 are trying to clean it up. The homeowners are pissed off and throwing shit at you and making an even bigger fucking mess. You're making no progress cleaning up your mess and the homeowners are making it even worse.

Would it make sense to get 50 more of your buddies to come to the house to help clean up the mess or would you just get the fuck out and let the homeowners clean it up?

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » March 28, 2007, 4:02 pm

Winnow wrote:You used that one already. Repeat flame!

shes pissed because you said " Black ops"

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » March 28, 2007, 4:03 pm

miir wrote:
Spang wrote: Cleaning up a football stadium after a game and hostiley (that a word?) occupying a sovereign nation are not the same thing but, let's say you were tasked to clean up a football stadium after a game. It would take you quite a while. If they tasked you and 20 other people, it would get done much faster.
A better analogy.

You and 20 of your buddies break into someone home, break all their shit and make a big fucking mess for a few years.

Now you have to clean up the mess... but the homeowners just want you to get the fuck out.

Well 10 of your buddies are still trashing the place and the other 10 are trying to clean it up. The homeowners are pissed off and throwing shit at you and making an even bigger fucking mess. You're making no progress cleaning up your mess and the homeowners are making it even worse.

Would it make sense to get 50 more of your buddies to come to the house to help clean up the mess or would you just get the fuck out and let the homeowners clean it up?

Id say get the fuck out and let the maids, (Canadians), Clean it up.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » March 28, 2007, 4:12 pm

miir wrote:A better analogy.

You and 20 of your buddies break into someone home, break all their shit and make a big fucking mess for a few years.

Now you have to clean up the mess... but the homeowners just want you to get the fuck out.

Well 10 of your buddies are still trashing the place and the other 10 are trying to clean it up. The homeowners are pissed off and throwing shit at you and making an even bigger fucking mess. You're making no progress cleaning up your mess and the homeowners are making it even worse.

Would it make sense to get 50 more of your buddies to come to the house to help clean up the mess or would you just get the fuck out and let the homeowners clean it up?

Sure, leave the stadium a mess.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » March 28, 2007, 4:25 pm

miir wrote:
Would it make sense to get 50 more of your buddies to come to the house to help clean up the mess or would you just get the fuck out and let the homeowners clean it up?

There's more than one homeowner...more like three claiming to be owners that all think only they should live there...and their fridge is stocked with Texas Tea.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » March 29, 2007, 9:16 am

Yea...and don't forget that each of those 3 homeowners is trying to kill the other 2....while some of your buddies are trying to clean up they are trying to keep them from killing each other. Oh....and 2 of the homeowners are going behind your buddies and destroying things as they clean them up so the other 2 don't have access to them.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » March 29, 2007, 10:29 am

What were you doing in the house in the first place?

Why won't you leave when they want you to?

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » March 29, 2007, 11:31 am

Nick wrote:What were you doing in the house in the first place?

Why won't you leave when they want you to?

If thats the case. Leave the USA please. Thank you for your visit.

cadalano · Post by **cadalano** » March 29, 2007, 11:31 am

this analogy is really working out well

iraq is a lot like an orange

Nick · Post by **Nick** » March 29, 2007, 12:23 pm

If thats the case. Leave the USA please. Thank you for your visit.

Ireland ! = USA

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » March 29, 2007, 12:50 pm

if you had anything other than potatoes and irish whiskey it would be

Truant · Post by **Truant** » March 29, 2007, 1:46 pm

Potatoes and Irish Whiskey?! What else do you need in life?

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » March 29, 2007, 1:55 pm

steaks and jennifer connelly

miir · Post by **miir** » March 29, 2007, 2:47 pm

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:Yea...and don't forget that each of those 3 homeowners is trying to kill the other 2....while some of your buddies are trying to clean up they are trying to keep them from killing each other. Oh....and 2 of the homeowners are going behind your buddies and destroying things as they clean them up so the other 2 don't have access to them.

So you agree that you should just get the fuck out of there?

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » March 29, 2007, 2:50 pm

I liked the idea of having the maids clean things up.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » March 29, 2007, 2:52 pm

Nick wrote:
If thats the case. Leave the USA please. Thank you for your visit.
Ireland ! = USA

WTF is Ireland, In this case WTF means What the Fuck or Where the Fuck or even Who the Fuck. they all fit.

This is how much Ireland means to the world

Nick · Post by **Nick** » March 29, 2007, 7:52 pm

That's why half you're backward ass country was creaming itself pretending to be us a week and a half ago.

if you had anything other than potatoes and irish whiskey it would be

OH NO! Forgive us over here in Ireland for not being terrified after watching the laughable failure of your latest "liberation" in the middle east.

We're shaking in our fucking boots. Oh god im terrified. The big bad USA is flexing its weight. /scared!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHATEVER SHALL WE DO

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » March 29, 2007, 9:11 pm

Nick wrote:That's why half you're backward ass country was creaming itself pretending to be us a week and a half ago.

if you had anything other than potatoes and irish whiskey it would be
OH NO! Forgive us over here in Ireland for not being terrified after watching the laughable failure of your latest "liberation" in the middle east.

We're shaking in our fucking boots. Oh god im terrified. The big bad USA is flexing its weight. /scared!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHATEVER SHALL WE DO

Kinda funny how your piss ant country offers umm what to the world?

My Bad, Thank god for Lucky Charms.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » March 29, 2007, 9:17 pm

The hicks are posting, the hicks are posting!

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » March 29, 2007, 11:01 pm

Nick wrote:The hicks are posting, the hicks are posting!

The Pricks are posting, the pricks are posting.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » March 30, 2007, 11:30 am

Cart, I know you wallow in your "i can be as dumb as I fucking like and there's nothing you can do about it lolololol ps all women should be raped by their daddy's" attitude but fucking hell would I be glad to see you banned.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » March 30, 2007, 11:33 am

Nick wrote:Cart, I know you wallow in your "i can be as dumb as I fucking like and there's nothing you can do about it lolololol ps all women should be raped by their daddy's" attitude but fucking hell would I be glad to see you banned.

Did I hurt the Wittle Leprechaun's feelings, Did the pasty white failure lose his pot of gold.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » March 30, 2007, 7:17 pm

FUCK OFF ASSHOLE

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » March 30, 2007, 8:15 pm

Nick wrote:FUCK OFF ASSHOLE

Ahhhh I got the Wittle Tree Hugger to use Big Fonts, Me thinks the wittle Irish failure will indulge in some extra mushrooms tonight. Just remember before you deep throat the shotgun load it first please.

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » March 30, 2007, 9:13 pm

Cartalas is a loser and he knows it. That's why he comes here with absolutely nothing to offer but the insults of a 13 year old. His insults aren't even funny or relevant. Its really pathetic. I personally would like to see him banned simply because he offers NOTHING but trolling. There are lots of people here I don't care for, but they at least make an effort to participate in the community.

Why haven't we banned him? We'll ban other anonymous losers who come to the board just to troll, so he shouldn't be any different.

...incoming lame Cartalas response involving violent sexual imagery...

Nick · Post by **Nick** » March 30, 2007, 9:20 pm

What Lal said.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » March 30, 2007, 9:55 pm

What Lal + Nick said.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » March 31, 2007, 12:56 am

God I love this, Typical Liberal thinking.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » March 31, 2007, 9:21 am

Cartalas wrote:God I love this, Typical Liberal thinking.

Typical Liberal thinking would be to pat you on the head and allow your jackassery.

Typical Conservative thinking would be to assess your IQ above the state minimum for execution and create a permanent solution to the problem.

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » March 31, 2007, 11:45 am

Time to be conservative?

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » March 31, 2007, 12:37 pm

Wow! the Keyboard Pussies are out in force, Whats wrong tired of trying to save the world by sitting on your hands supporting a congress, whos only agenda is to go after a president, They are so consumed with this they have waisted 4 monts doing nothing.

VeeshanVault

Um yeah....Iraq

Do you still support the Iraq War?