What's ahead for Reggie Bush and the Trojans?

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » January 25, 2007, 2:21 pm

http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news;_ylt=A ... &type=lgns

Evidently there are tapes supposedly confirming Reggie Bush received ~280k in benefits.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » January 25, 2007, 2:50 pm

I predict USC will get even better recruits now that they know they can get some money on the side while playing there.

Post by **Sylvus** » January 25, 2007, 3:29 pm

Or it'll be like Michigan's Chris Webber situation, and they'll have to forfeit every game that he played in, including their national championship(s), their coach will be forced to resign, the program will end up in shambles and they'll field a laughable squad for the next 10 or 15 years.

I'm not bitter or anything, though.

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » January 25, 2007, 3:32 pm

The best thing I heard today was striking Reggie's name from the heisman and just leaving it blank. So everyone can remember that was the year Reggie got the Heisman stripped.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » January 25, 2007, 4:04 pm

Congrats to Pete Carrol the New Dallas Cowboy head coach

noel · Post by **noel** » January 25, 2007, 4:14 pm

Chris Webber is such a useless bitch. I bet you guys are really glad to have him as part of the Pistons now.

cid · Post by **cid** » January 25, 2007, 5:39 pm

Sylvus wrote:Or it'll be like Michigan's Chris Webber situation, and they'll have to forfeit every game that he played in, including their national championship(s), their coach will be forced to resign, the program will end up in shambles and they'll field a laughable squad for the next 10 or 15 years.

I'm not bitter or anything, though.

You just made Webber call a time out...

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » January 25, 2007, 11:04 pm

cid wrote:
Sylvus wrote:Or it'll be like Michigan's Chris Webber situation, and they'll have to forfeit every game that he played in, including their national championship(s), their coach will be forced to resign, the program will end up in shambles and they'll field a laughable squad for the next 10 or 15 years.

I'm not bitter or anything, though.
You just made Webber call a time out...

Salt in the wound... fucker you beat me to it

Post by **Sylvus** » January 26, 2007, 12:02 pm

Eh, I can't really fault him for that, Michigan probably would have lost that game anyway. Besides, when you're 18 or 19 years old, playing in the biggest game at that level, and getting paid a couple hundred grand, it's probably difficult to figure out what the boosters want you to do in that situation.

I wish Michigan didn't have to play under the salary cap ($0) these days. It was a lot more exciting when we were paying people.

Knarlz · Post by **Knarlz** » January 26, 2007, 12:36 pm

I hope the IRS goes after him for back taxes and fines.

I feel a little bit more forgiving for the schools ( in this case it wasn't alumni and booster clubs funding him) but when your stars whole family moves from the hood into a mansion and the kid starts driving a new car to practace, they should know that his internship job dosen't pay 500$ an hour.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » January 26, 2007, 1:03 pm

Players know if they want money cars and women to come to OSU.

We're just better at hiding it than UM and USC.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » January 26, 2007, 1:21 pm

Every college pays their athletes... every single one

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » January 26, 2007, 3:51 pm

Pherr the Dorf wrote:Every college pays their athletes... every single one

No, not every one. Unless you count Scholarships as paying athletes.

Asheran Mojomaster · Post by **Asheran Mojomaster** » January 27, 2007, 5:23 am

Boogahz wrote:
Pherr the Dorf wrote:Every college pays their athletes... every single one
No, not every one. Unless you count Scholarships as paying athletes.

Yeah, unless Auburn players are just really good at hiding it they dont get paid. None of the players really have a shitload of money. Some of the good players are broke most of the time.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » January 27, 2007, 12:54 pm

schools don't pay players, boosters do.

Denadeb · Post by **Denadeb** » January 27, 2007, 2:00 pm

I won't feel bad for USC at all. I know its not illegal or against any rules technicly but when you invite agents to watch your practices to me that doesn't set a good example. It puts added temptation to the temptations already there. Reggie wasn't the only player but he is the best known thats for sure. There realy isn't much they can do to reggie except take away his hiesman and thats not going to take any money out of his pocket thats for sure.

I don't agree with college players not being able to get paid but since thats the rules if you break them you pay.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » January 27, 2007, 5:22 pm

It happens everywhere as others have said. I have to think Michigan's Fab Five lived the life of luxury because when Bill Frieder was hired away from Michigan to ASU, our basketball program went to hell right away with point shaving scandals and other violations. One of our players even spent time in prison for it. The Fab Five from Michigan (Webber, Howard, Jalen Rose, etc) were probably only second to UNLV's Runnin Rebels (Stacey Augmen, Larry Johnson, Anderson Hunt, Greg Anthony, George Ackles) for receiving "booster" support.

I don't really care too much about these things except that they should change the rules as you can't expect a high profile college athlete that has million staring at him the minute he goes pro to keep living their ghetto lifestyle. Let them get endorsements legally and things will be better. You'll probably keep some in college and extra year as well. It would all balance out. The larger the school, the more endorsement deals the "boosters" could get for players. It works in Major League baseball. New York pays bazillions more than some other teams. They don't always win though. Maybe Notre Dame would win a bowl game again.

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » January 28, 2007, 12:15 am

College kids do really fucking stupid things. That's a universal truth.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » January 28, 2007, 6:19 am

Boogahz wrote:
Pherr the Dorf wrote:Every college pays their athletes... every single one
No, not every one. Unless you count Scholarships as paying athletes.

I should say "Boosters" but either way, any player that is willing to take the $$$ will get the money, and that goes for EVERY school

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » January 28, 2007, 11:00 am

Pherr the Dorf wrote:
Boogahz wrote:
Pherr the Dorf wrote:Every college pays their athletes... every single one
No, not every one. Unless you count Scholarships as paying athletes.
I should say "Boosters" but either way, any player that is willing to take the $$$ will get the money, and that goes for EVERY school

Still wrong. The problem is that you are assuming that it is "every" school, when it is not. It may be "many" schools, or it may be "most schools which rank highly in athletics," but it is not "every" school...unless you are claiming to have participated in athletics at every school in the US.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » January 28, 2007, 1:23 pm

Boogahz wrote:
Pherr the Dorf wrote:
Boogahz wrote:
Pherr the Dorf wrote:Every college pays their athletes... every single one
No, not every one. Unless you count Scholarships as paying athletes.
I should say "Boosters" but either way, any player that is willing to take the $$$ will get the money, and that goes for EVERY school
Still wrong. The problem is that you are assuming that it is "every" school, when it is not. It may be "many" schools, or it may be "most schools which rank highly in athletics," but it is not "every" school...unless you are claiming to have participated in athletics at every school in the US.

I don't have to be in the house or senate to know the politicians all take kickbacks.

I don't need to go to every school to know every school has boosters that pay their athletes.

Even my cooking school had boosters for our crappy hockey team.

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » January 28, 2007, 1:59 pm

The problem with paying athletes is thus:

The only reason that the amount of money that universities (ACADEMIC institutions) pump into major basketball and football programs is even remotely justifiable is because of how much money comes back from those programs. Profits from basketball and football generally finance the athletic budgets for every other sport, from soccer to gymnastics, and prevent the entire athletic department from being an incredible drain on the resources of the university. If you took the profits from football and basketball and applied them to financially compensating football and basketball players, you would destroy the infrastructure that allows an athletic department to exist.

If you want to pay college athletes, you need to answer two questions:
1. How can you justify turning major-college sports into a financial drain on the institution, instead of a break-even proposition, especially considering that universities are first and foremost institutions of academics?
2. How do you justify paying thousands of dollars to a backup safety, but not a member of your national champion field hockey team who spends just as much time practicing and playing and is every bit as accomplished an athlete? Basically, how do you justify paying one athlete worlds more than another when the only thing distinguishing them is the level of outside visibility their sport enjoys?

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » January 28, 2007, 2:10 pm

USC should get the same penalties Michigan got.

That being said, i bet they won't. Football is such a big money maker by comparison to basketball for the NCAA and the politics - and corruption - are so much deeper, i bet you'll see a much less severe penalty.