This one I had to pass on.WEATHER BULLETIN -- Denver - December 2006 - Christmas
Up here, in the "Mile-Hi City", we just recovered from a Historic event---
May I even say a "Weather Event" of "Biblical Proportions" --- with a
historic blizzard of up to 44" inches of snow and winds to 90 MPH that
broke trees in half, knocked down utility poles, stranded hundreds of
motorists in lethal snow banks, closed ALL roads, isolated scores of
communities and cut power to 10's of thousands.
FYI:
George Bush did not come.
FEMA did nothing.
No one howled for the government.
No one blamed the government.
No one even uttered an expletive on TV.
Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton did not visit.
Our Mayor did not blame Bush or anyone else.
Our Governor did not blame Bush or anyone else, either.
CNN, ABC, CBS, FOX or NBC did not visit - or report on this category 5
snowstorm. Nobody demanded $2,000 debit cards.
No one asked for a FEMA Trailer House.
No one looted.
Nobody - I mean Nobody demanded the government do something.
Nobody expected the government to do anything, either.
No Larry King, No Bill O'Rielly, No Oprah, No Chris Mathews and No Geraldo
Rivera.
No Shaun Penn, No Barbara Striesand, No Hollywood types to be found.
Nope, we just melted the snow for water.
Sent out caravans of SUV's to pluck people out of snow engulfed cars.
The truck drivers pulled people out of snow banks and didn't ask for a
penny.
Local restaurants made food and the police and fire departments delivered
it to the snowbound families.
Families took in the stranded people - total strangers.
We fired up wood stoves, broke out coal oil lanterns or Coleman lanterns, even cooked on the Bar-B-Que (once we unburied it).
We put on extra layers of clothes because up here it is "Work or Die".
We did not wait for some affirmative action government to get us out of a
mess created by being immobilized by a welfare program that trades votes
for 'sittin at home' checks.
Even though a Category "5" blizzard of this scale has never fallen this
early, we accept that it can happen and understand we have to know how to deal with it ourselves.
"In my many travels, I have noticed that once one gets north of about 48
degrees North Latitude, 90% of the world's social problems evaporate."
It does seem that way, at least to me.
I hope this gets passed on.
Maybe SOME people (Like New Orleans and Wash. DC freeloaders) will get the message. The world does Not owe you a living. The Government and Tax $ are not your insurance company. People should help people just because we are neighbors and it is the thing we do. Think about it.
Amen to this one
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Because 44 inches of snow is the same as a flooded city. I'm sure if it snowed to the same height as the water in NO, people would be singing a different tune.
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It's not the long term affects that are at questions here.Spankes wrote:Not to mention the wind that ripped off people's roofs as the rain came in to flood them out.
I work directly with a dozen people in Denver and while it is true that the snow shut down the city the actual long term effects (that I am aware of) have been minimal.
snow storm =|= hurricane
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A snow storm isn't a natural disaster. A couple of trees and powerlines knocked out won't kill people.
Lethal snowbanks? ROFL. What nutjob thought of that one.
Snow can be shoveled and moved out of the way. The Gulf of Mexico surging through the living room of 60-75% of the houses in a city can't.
I know you love the current administration and defend them every chance you get but seriously get a bit of perspective here.
People are still trying to recover from Katrina to this day. Come March, that snow will be gone and that storm a rapidly fading memory.
Shit dude I WELCOME a snowstorm like that one. I can still see my f'ing lawn in the middle of January. If that isn't a natural disaster, I don't know what is.
Lethal snowbanks? ROFL. What nutjob thought of that one.
Snow can be shoveled and moved out of the way. The Gulf of Mexico surging through the living room of 60-75% of the houses in a city can't.
I know you love the current administration and defend them every chance you get but seriously get a bit of perspective here.
People are still trying to recover from Katrina to this day. Come March, that snow will be gone and that storm a rapidly fading memory.
Shit dude I WELCOME a snowstorm like that one. I can still see my f'ing lawn in the middle of January. If that isn't a natural disaster, I don't know what is.
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Man, I want to just leave it at my earlier comment, but Midnyte's is the kind of overwhelming ignorance that makes some part of my soul itch, and the only way to really scratch it is to try to point out to him what a fucking moron he is. Sorry, gang.
Now, what did Katrina do? Well, the Louisiana government reports that it killed around 1500 people. Other figures put that number closer to 3000 when including all the states affected by it. An estimated 600,000 pets were killed or left without shelter. 1.5 million people were rendered homeless. Somewhere in the neighborhood of $150B worth of damage was caused, the costliest natural disaster in US history.
The storm in Denver and Hurricane Katrina are right on par with each other though.
Are you honestly this fucking stupid, or do you just need your trolling fix?
Okay, so looking at what the Denver storm did, 5000 or so people had to sleep at an airport for a night before they found hotels, 2000 more had to stay 2 nights. The roads turned slippery, and there were no reports of deaths or serious injuries. Oh, and the National Guard and Police are the ones rescuing people from the snowbanks (I would hope they'd do it free of charge, since your taxes are paying them... oh wait, that's not free of charge!). The Police and National Guard are government entities, btw, so whatever the turd who wrote this was thinking when he said "we accept that it can happen and understand we have to know how to deal with it ourselves" was wrong, don'tcha think? FFS, it's only 2 weeks after the storm there, and the most popular local story about the storm is that it delayed their fucking UPS schedule.CNN.com wrote:DENVER, Colorado (AP) -- A makeshift shelter of cardboard boxes sprang up near a United Airlines ticket counter as hundreds of holiday travelers found ways to cope after being stranded at the Denver airport by a blizzard.
Denver International Airport -- the nation's fifth-busiest -- was expected to begin limited operations at noon Friday, almost two days after a blizzard forced it to close runways.
More than 2,000 flights have been canceled, according to airline officials, creating a ripple effect that disrupted air travel around the country as the holiday crush began to build.
Two of the airport's six runways were set to open first, followed by a third runway Friday night.
For those stranded in Denver and flying standby because they were unable to rebook a flight, finding a spot on crowded planes filled with holiday travelers could prove impossible this weekend.
Frontier spokesman Joe Hodas said the airline has 65,000 bumped passengers to move systemwide and the airline is 90 percent booked for the holidays.
"Do the math," he said.
United Airlines spokesman Jeff Kovick said it could be days before some people are able to get a flight out. "We're asking for their patience as we work to get people where they need to be as soon as we safely can," he said.
Near the cardboard shelter, cobbled together from boxes that workers used to carry blankets to hand out to stranded passengers, Jackson, Wyoming, teacher Joanna Snyder and others searched in vain for information.
"It's all rumor," she said.
An estimated 4,700 travelers spent Wednesday night at the airport. By Thursday evening, however, many had found hotel rooms.
Among the 1,500 to 2,000 travelers remaining at the airport and hunkering down for their second night was Michele Bermudez.
Bermudez had to change planes in Denver on Wednesday while on her way from Tennessee to California and ended up at the terminal after spending eight hours in an airplane on the runway.
"I finally had to buy a T-shirt and some sweat pants," she said, showing off a souvenir shirt with the brightly-colored emblem reading "Denver."
It was the biggest snowstorm to hit Colorado since a March blizzard in 2003 that shut down the region and killed six. (Watch how Denver copes with snow standstill )
The storm brought life to a standstill for 3.8 million people along the Front Range -- a 170-mile urban corridor along the eastern edge of the Rockies that includes Denver.
Police and National Guard soldiers rescued hundreds of people stuck in cars. Other Guard patrols took people to critical medical appointments.
Some mountain areas got more than 3 feet of snow, and up to 25 inches fell in the Denver metropolitan area. Despite the slick roads and deep drifts, there were no immediate reports of deaths or serious injuries.
Now, what did Katrina do? Well, the Louisiana government reports that it killed around 1500 people. Other figures put that number closer to 3000 when including all the states affected by it. An estimated 600,000 pets were killed or left without shelter. 1.5 million people were rendered homeless. Somewhere in the neighborhood of $150B worth of damage was caused, the costliest natural disaster in US history.
The storm in Denver and Hurricane Katrina are right on par with each other though.
Do you really not see the hypocrisy in that statement?Maybe SOME people (Like New Orleans and Wash. DC freeloaders) will get the message. The world does Not owe you a living. The Government and Tax $ are not your insurance company. People should help people just because we are neighbors and it is the thing we do. Think about it.
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Funny that the email wasn't even originally about Denver, and that the subject of the original did in fact ask the president for help.
And there's no such thing as a category 5 blizzard. /edit: this article says there is, (and it's a different measurement than hurricanes, so not equal) but that there have only been 2 in the last hundred years, and I doubt Denver's would qualify.
And there's no such thing as a category 5 blizzard. /edit: this article says there is, (and it's a different measurement than hurricanes, so not equal) but that there have only been 2 in the last hundred years, and I doubt Denver's would qualify.
Thanks for passing it along though!this guy wrote:The Saffir-Simpson scale applies to hurricanes, and you need 74-95 mph winds and 4-5 feet of storm surge even to qualify for a Category 1 hurricane. The energy of wind varies as the square of the velocity, so 90 mph winds have over three times the destructive capacity of 50 mph winds, not even counting the storm surge. The wind alone in a Category 5 hurricane would be 25 times as destructive. Stranded motorists and downed trees don't compare with people stranded for days in attics and on rooftops without food or drinking water surrounded with floodwaters polluted by chemical spills and decaying, floating bodies, compounded by the demolition of the infrastructure of the entire region.
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Who made this about race? I think you just did. I lived in Denver for 2 years. There are just as many black folk there as in New Orleans, so I'm not sure where you think you are goign here. I guess you are showing your ignorance by thinking Denver is white. It's really sad when people prejudge like that.kyoukan wrote:obviously the good christian white people of denver are a lot more resilient than the poor, whiny niggers in NO when faced with a CATEGORY 5 SNOWSTORM.
why aren't you being fucking banned again for this, you race baiting piece of shit?
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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Who made this about race? I think you just did. I lived in Denver for 2 years. There are just as many black folk there as in New Orleans, so I'm not sure where you think you are goign here. I guess you are showing your ignorance by thinking Denver is white. It's really sad when people prejudge like that.
I'm pretty sure "affirmative action" would refer to race in this case. And I doubt that number or percentage of "black folk" in Denver truly rivals that of New Orleans. Not to mention that the author of this letter originally wrote it about North Dakota, which has a tremendously lower population of "black folk" than New Orleans. Add that to his comments about affirmative action, "sittin at home checks", "New Orleans freeloaders" in context with this being about the low-income people in New Orleans who were affected by Katrina (read: "black folk"), and it comes off as pretty racist.We did not wait for some affirmative action government to get us out of a mess created by being immobilized by a welfare program that trades votes for 'sittin at home' checks.
Which is it, are you racist or just too stupid to understand what it is that you're saying Amen to?
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I hope your not saying NO got hit with a Cat. 5 Hurricane?kyoukan wrote:obviously the good christian white people of denver are a lot more resilient than the poor, whiny niggers in NO when faced with a CATEGORY 5 SNOWSTORM.
why aren't you being fucking banned again for this, you race baiting piece of shit?
It formed over the Bahamas on August 23, 2005, and crossed southern Florida as a moderate Category 1 hurricane, causing some deaths and flooding there, before strengthening rapidly in the Gulf of Mexico and becoming one of the strongest hurricanes on record while at sea. The storm weakened before making its second and third landfalls as a Category 3 storm on the morning of August 29 in southeast Louisiana and at the Louisiana/Mississippi state line, respectively.
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While I do somewhat see a bit of a point in what Mid posted I don't totally agree.Sylvus wrote:Man, I want to just leave it at my earlier comment, but Midnyte's is the kind of overwhelming ignorance that makes some part of my soul itch, and the only way to really scratch it is to try to point out to him what a fucking moron he is. Sorry, gang.
Okay, so looking at what the Denver storm did, 5000 or so people had to sleep at an airport for a night before they found hotels, 2000 more had to stay 2 nights. The roads turned slippery, and there were no reports of deaths or serious injuries. Oh, and the National Guard and Police are the ones rescuing people from the snowbanks (I would hope they'd do it free of charge, since your taxes are paying them... oh wait, that's not free of charge!). The Police and National Guard are government entities, btw, so whatever the turd who wrote this was thinking when he said "we accept that it can happen and understand we have to know how to deal with it ourselves" was wrong, don'tcha think? FFS, it's only 2 weeks after the storm there, and the most popular local story about the storm is that it delayed their fucking UPS schedule.CNN.com wrote:DENVER, Colorado (AP) -- A makeshift shelter of cardboard boxes sprang up near a United Airlines ticket counter as hundreds of holiday travelers found ways to cope after being stranded at the Denver airport by a blizzard.
Denver International Airport -- the nation's fifth-busiest -- was expected to begin limited operations at noon Friday, almost two days after a blizzard forced it to close runways.
More than 2,000 flights have been canceled, according to airline officials, creating a ripple effect that disrupted air travel around the country as the holiday crush began to build.
Two of the airport's six runways were set to open first, followed by a third runway Friday night.
For those stranded in Denver and flying standby because they were unable to rebook a flight, finding a spot on crowded planes filled with holiday travelers could prove impossible this weekend.
Frontier spokesman Joe Hodas said the airline has 65,000 bumped passengers to move systemwide and the airline is 90 percent booked for the holidays.
"Do the math," he said.
United Airlines spokesman Jeff Kovick said it could be days before some people are able to get a flight out. "We're asking for their patience as we work to get people where they need to be as soon as we safely can," he said.
Near the cardboard shelter, cobbled together from boxes that workers used to carry blankets to hand out to stranded passengers, Jackson, Wyoming, teacher Joanna Snyder and others searched in vain for information.
"It's all rumor," she said.
An estimated 4,700 travelers spent Wednesday night at the airport. By Thursday evening, however, many had found hotel rooms.
Among the 1,500 to 2,000 travelers remaining at the airport and hunkering down for their second night was Michele Bermudez.
Bermudez had to change planes in Denver on Wednesday while on her way from Tennessee to California and ended up at the terminal after spending eight hours in an airplane on the runway.
"I finally had to buy a T-shirt and some sweat pants," she said, showing off a souvenir shirt with the brightly-colored emblem reading "Denver."
It was the biggest snowstorm to hit Colorado since a March blizzard in 2003 that shut down the region and killed six. (Watch how Denver copes with snow standstill )
The storm brought life to a standstill for 3.8 million people along the Front Range -- a 170-mile urban corridor along the eastern edge of the Rockies that includes Denver.
Police and National Guard soldiers rescued hundreds of people stuck in cars. Other Guard patrols took people to critical medical appointments.
Some mountain areas got more than 3 feet of snow, and up to 25 inches fell in the Denver metropolitan area. Despite the slick roads and deep drifts, there were no immediate reports of deaths or serious injuries.
Now, what did Katrina do? Well, the Louisiana government reports that it killed around 1500 people. Other figures put that number closer to 3000 when including all the states affected by it. An estimated 600,000 pets were killed or left without shelter. 1.5 million people were rendered homeless. Somewhere in the neighborhood of $150B worth of damage was caused, the costliest natural disaster in US history.
The storm in Denver and Hurricane Katrina are right on par with each other though.Are you honestly this fucking stupid, or do you just need your trolling fix?
Do you really not see the hypocrisy in that statement?Maybe SOME people (Like New Orleans and Wash. DC freeloaders) will get the message. The world does Not owe you a living. The Government and Tax $ are not your insurance company. People should help people just because we are neighbors and it is the thing we do. Think about it.
However, I want to tell you that the UPS delays that were caused here made my life fucking hell.. same with the earthquake in Tokyo.. Peoples data flow gets backed up for a few days, but when those thousands of customers got shit restored it was like a CATEGORY 5 data/phone hurricane hit our fucking building.
Not that that is exactly on topic, just found it to be a good spot to bitch.
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Midnyte and his, uh, "viewpoints" are in just about half of all of VV's topics. I'm thoroughly entertained by his posting / trolling and I would be very sad to see him go by way of ban stick. Deep down I think we all would be. Maybe if most of you just listened instead of attempted to reason with him you'd be able to enjoy it as well.noel wrote:It's always been a shame that you can't be banned for stupid around here. I'd have been banned at least a few times, but it would have been worth it for the massive amount of times people like Mid would have been banned.
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Perhaps due to your lack of time here compared to some, but you appear to be in only the first stages of exposure to Midnyte. Give it time.Leonaerd wrote:Midnyte and his, uh, "viewpoints" are in just about half of all of VV's topics. I'm thoroughly entertained by his posting / trolling and I would be very sad to see him go by way of ban stick. Deep down I think we all would be. Maybe if most of you just listened instead of attempted to reason with him you'd be able to enjoy it as well.
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I don't know.. I was taught by some unnamed person here to take what people say with a grain of salt. I do think Mid crosses the line sometimes but it really doesn't bother me any.. The arrogant people here that think everyone else should be like them and share their opinions bother me (at times) far more than someone like mid ever could.noel wrote:Perhaps due to your lack of time here compared to some, but you appear to be in only the first stages of exposure to Midnyte. Give it time.Leonaerd wrote:Midnyte and his, uh, "viewpoints" are in just about half of all of VV's topics. I'm thoroughly entertained by his posting / trolling and I would be very sad to see him go by way of ban stick. Deep down I think we all would be. Maybe if most of you just listened instead of attempted to reason with him you'd be able to enjoy it as well.
Uh.. No.Leonaerd wrote:Midnyte and his, uh, "viewpoints" are in just about half of all of VV's topics. I'm thoroughly entertained by his posting / trolling and I would be very sad to see him go by way of ban stick. Deep down I think we all would be.
The only posts of his I like are the ones saying he is leaving. Unfortunately he keeps coming back.
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Dude, you flipped when Aslanna asked if your woman swallows or spits, right? Grain of salt my dick.Funkmasterr wrote:I don't know.. I was taught by some unnamed person here to take what people say with a grain of salt. I do think Mid crosses the line sometimes but it really doesn't bother me any.. The arrogant people here that think everyone else should be like them and share their opinions bother me (at times) far more than someone like mid ever could.noel wrote:Perhaps due to your lack of time here compared to some, but you appear to be in only the first stages of exposure to Midnyte. Give it time.Leonaerd wrote:Midnyte and his, uh, "viewpoints" are in just about half of all of VV's topics. I'm thoroughly entertained by his posting / trolling and I would be very sad to see him go by way of ban stick. Deep down I think we all would be. Maybe if most of you just listened instead of attempted to reason with him you'd be able to enjoy it as well.
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Leonaerd wrote:Dude, you flipped when Aslanna asked if your woman swallows or spits, right? Grain of salt my dick.Funkmasterr wrote:I don't know.. I was taught by some unnamed person here to take what people say with a grain of salt. I do think Mid crosses the line sometimes but it really doesn't bother me any.. The arrogant people here that think everyone else should be like them and share their opinions bother me (at times) far more than someone like mid ever could.noel wrote:Perhaps due to your lack of time here compared to some, but you appear to be in only the first stages of exposure to Midnyte. Give it time.Leonaerd wrote:Midnyte and his, uh, "viewpoints" are in just about half of all of VV's topics. I'm thoroughly entertained by his posting / trolling and I would be very sad to see him go by way of ban stick. Deep down I think we all would be. Maybe if most of you just listened instead of attempted to reason with him you'd be able to enjoy it as well.
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Just fine, thank you. And Leonard, I realize I did - but you obviously didn't read the rest of my last post.noel wrote:How's that working out for you? Seems to be better of late. /shrugFunkmasterr wrote:I don't know.. I was taught by some unnamed person here to take what people say with a grain of salt.
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Boogahz wrote:Leonaerd wrote:Funkmasterr wrote:I don't know.. I was taught by some unnamed person here to take what people say with a grain of salt. I do think Mid crosses the line sometimes but it really doesn't bother me any.. The arrogant people here that think everyone else should be like them and share their opinions bother me (at times) far more than someone like mid ever could.noel wrote:Perhaps due to your lack of time here compared to some, but you appear to be in only the first stages of exposure to Midnyte. Give it time.Leonaerd wrote:Midnyte and his, uh, "viewpoints" are in just about half of all of VV's topics. I'm thoroughly entertained by his posting / trolling and I would be very sad to see him go by way of ban stick. Deep down I think we all would be. Maybe if most of you just listened instead of attempted to reason with him you'd be able to enjoy it as well.
Dude, you flipped when Aslanna asked if your woman swallows or spits, right? Grain of salt my dick.
Do you need someone to draw you a timeline?
You beat me to it
I currently live in Denver. Many people treated it as a 5 day weekend (Christmas was Monday), since they had Friday off already, and many folks were sent home early on Thurs when it started coming down. What your chain letter describes is so far different from what actually happened in Denver, I question whether they spent that snow storm sober, if they were even in Colorado at all.
The "44 inches" stuff was out on the eastern planes, far, far from Denver. Denver got about 12 inches of snow.
The "90 mph wind" bit was Colorado Springs, about 70 miles south of Denver. It didn't get much above about 30 mph here in Denver.
The "44 inches" stuff was out on the eastern planes, far, far from Denver. Denver got about 12 inches of snow.
The "90 mph wind" bit was Colorado Springs, about 70 miles south of Denver. It didn't get much above about 30 mph here in Denver.
The governments (county and city) run the snowplows to clear the streets. The street I live on has a bus route, and it was Sunday before it got plowed. A following weekend dropped another 4-6 inches of snow.Nobody expected the government to do anything, either.
No it wasn't "category 5" anything, other than a category-5-day-weekend. Perhaps the source of this chain letter propaganda puff piece spent too much time on their last drunken binge. Their piece is so riddled with bullshit it is clearly obvious that it never came from anyone living near Colorado.category 5 snowstorm
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Maybe, I don't care whether you think I'm a fool or not. Maybe, I like to bring up alternative points of view. Maybe I like to show different sides.Kelshara wrote:Midnyte do you intentionally TRY to look like a complete fool?
No this example isn't perfect. No this example isn't 100% accurate, by any means. But, the reason for this is to show that the reactions of those people in New Orleans, who raped, mudered, looted were wrong. They used an excuse to over react and revert to an animal nature. It was barbaric. It is to show that the assholes who run around saying, "if it happened to you, you would do the same thing...". NO. No, I nor most civilized people would react in such a manner.
The people of New Orleans have gotten a pass. The whole thing has been turned into some feel good straight to Lifetime movie. They have glossed over the rotten parts. Which actually isn't too bad. Normally I wouldn't mind that. My problem is with the double standard. If this happened in bumfuck trailpark Whiteyville, USA, they would have no problem pointing out the disgusting nature of these human beings. But, because the people who acted like this were predominantly black, it is glossed over.
I'm sure somehow this opinion of mine makes me some raving racist. I'm sorry you feel that way. It has nothing to do with race. What bothers me is the bullshit double standards that the media portrays. It's wrong and they cannot be trusted. With the same discretionary values they use in this instances they can use on every other story. You cannot know which ones they are telling you everything and which ones they are putting their own point of views and values in.
Geez, I've typed way too long.
Gee, i seem to recall those news reports where white people were "salvaging", and black people were "looting", i guess that blatant racism part wasnt glossed overMidnyte_Ragebringer wrote:The people of New Orleans have gotten a pass. The whole thing has been turned into some feel good straight to Lifetime movie. They have glossed over the rotten parts. Which actually isn't too bad. Normally I wouldn't mind that. My problem is with the double standard. If this happened in bumfuck trailpark Whiteyville, USA, they would have no problem pointing out the disgusting nature of these human beings. But, because the people who acted like this were predominantly black, it is glossed over.Kelshara wrote:Midnyte do you intentionally TRY to look like a complete fool?
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