The Official PS3 thread!

miir · Post by **miir** » November 30, 2006, 1:14 pm

Looking at the 1up article, I noticed that several games.. Blazing Angels, Full Auto, Fight Night and Ridge Racer looked clearly better.

I guess the 360 fanboys at 1up are just as blinded by their fanboy-ism as you, Winnow. How else would 62% of the readers say there is no improvement between the 360 and PS3 versions of Ridge Racer?
46% said there was no improvement in Fight Night... 52% Full Auto... 47% Blazing Angels?

WTF are these people fucking blind?

It's obvious that most of those cheap bastards at EA can't be bothered to create different assets for each console port. Tiger Woods, Madden, NFS Carbon are proof of that.

Well at least one of their development teams actually took the time to explore each systems potential (see Fight Night 3).

Am I the only one who finds it strange that EA doesn't even have the PS3 listed as a platform on their Game Finder?

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » November 30, 2006, 3:00 pm

The one thing I noticed from the shots is that the Sony shots are generally brighter than the counterpart 360 shots. As well, the texture crispness is usually better on the 360 for games that have come out at the same time.

I don't really count the games with 1 year extra dev time as ports since they had a lot of time to change stuff.

Another thing I noticed with the RR7 VS 6 shots that came out a few weeks ago, while the PS3 does a fantastic job at rendering stuff that is the prime focus of the screen, the other environment one the sides tend to drop in quality quite a bit.

One thing that really stood out in the bottom shots is the water for the 360 vs the PS3. Was this something that got cut cause of the ram allocation of each system's 512? Who knows.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 30, 2006, 11:13 pm

Ken's out

Ken Kutaragi, the developer of Sony Corp.'s PlayStation game console, stepped aside from day-to-day management of the unit after production delays forced the company to slash shipment targets.

Kaz Hirai, head of the U.S. game division, will take over as president of Sony Computer Entertainment Inc., the Tokyo-based company said in a statement today. Kutaragi, 56, will become chairman of the unit.

Not sure too many are concerned with power consumption but here's a report:

The PS3, impressively, uses barely anything when off; the Watt display on the Kill-A-Watt metering device showing between 0 and 1 watts.

When sitting idle at the crossbar navigation system, the equivalent to the Xbox 360 dashboard or the Wii's home menu, the PS3 used anywhere from 185 to 205 watts. When doing similar work the Xbox 360 uses 145 watts and the Wii just 15-20.

Now, for the gaming. We tested with three games and found consumption to be lowest when playing Tiger Woods 07, registering at 185-190 watts, and highest when playing Formula One Championship Edition, which demanded a rather more disconcerting 217 watts on average. By comparison the Xbox 360 comes in at 165 watts during gameplay with the Wii using only around 120. Finally, during Blu-ray playback the PS3 continued to draw a surprising 205 watts, just to spew the rather craptacular Ricky Bobby to my HDTV.

Finally controller problems with Bluetooth

Some of PS3's imperfections affect online play with the PS3. And those are the ones that bother us most.

We've been playing Ridge Racer 7 online every day for the past three weeks, and largely without complaint. A few recurring problems have, however, started to sap our Ridge Spirit (whatever that is). For one thing, intermittent Bluetooth downtime suffered by the Sixaxis has led us drifting helplessly into track barriers. That's a hardware fault, but a software anomaly was also experienced at this blogger's test location of Kyoto, Japan, where yesterday a race was won without any true racing.

Unfortunately, the Bluetooth deadzone niggle -- caused by automatic Bluetooth re-syncing -- continues to niggle. Worse, having to occasionally connect the Sixaxis via USB in order to manually re-sync its Bluetooth connection is something of a downer. And we want uppers. So, Sony, please release all the firmware updates you can. We've not written you off yet.

I didn't have to dig deep. Those are the top three stories on the pro PS3Scene website:

http://www.ps3scene.com/

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » December 1, 2006, 12:41 am

it is just unbelievable to me how remorselessly retarded you are. is it a religion to you? do you worship stupidity?

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » December 1, 2006, 1:47 am

Not really a parallel, but still--who cares about console wars? You either buy one, the other, all or none--but does it matter? If I owned stock in any of them, sure....but why bother pointing out frailties and whatnot? I enjoy my 360, but I just don't care if the PS3 or Wii or whatever is better or worse.

Maybe just a post count thing now? I dunno and it frightens me that I am even thinking about this asinine shit, much less posting about it. .... grrr, arg?

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 1, 2006, 1:55 am

I'm wondering why Sony used Bluetooth for their wireless controllers. Bluetooth wireless keyboards and mice have always sucked shit. Is Sony trying to fail?

miir · Post by **miir** » December 1, 2006, 2:16 am

I'm wondering why MS decided to include wireless connectivity only as $100+ aftermarket addon to the 360.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 1, 2006, 2:55 am

miir wrote:I'm wondering why MS decided to include wireless connectivity only as $100+ aftermarket addon to the 360.

I'll take Microsoft's wireless controllers that come with the system and, imagine this, wirelessly sync to the console, over Bluetooth syncing issues and required cable to re sync them after it's lost during a game. Gaming first, extra features like rumble are kinda nice but not deal breaking. Other features like wireless lan connectivity would be nice if it didn't screw up gameplay.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » December 1, 2006, 3:09 am

miir wrote:I'm wondering why MS decided to include wireless connectivity only as $100+ aftermarket addon to the 360.

If that $100 was rolled into the price I'd be pissed... I don't need it or want it, and it wouldn't be much cheaper "on board".

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 1, 2006, 3:52 am

Zaelath wrote:
If that $100 was rolled into the price I'd be pissed... I don't need it or want it, and it wouldn't be much cheaper "on board".

Totally not related to anything but are you Aussies are allowed to say fuck on public TV or is that some cable channel?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRi37Tb2 ... ed&search=

Part of the reason Ken Kutaragi lost his position:

http://ncroal.talk.newsweek.com/default.asp?item=283473

As the battle is joined, Microsoft execs are smart enough to understand that they've got some weaknesses to shore up in their Xbox business. And they've been working overtime to do so, primarily by securing as many exclusive third-party games or exclusive content deals as possible. Electronic Arts' FIFA and Konami's Winning Eleven soccer games, which are both popular in Europe/PAL territories: exclusive through Fall 2007. Take-Two's Bioshock, an Ayn Rand-meets-Jules Verne first-person shooter than won many plaudits at the Electronic Entertainment Expo in May 2006. The next installment of Ubisoft's Splinter Cell. Downloadable content for Grand Theft Auto IV. All locked up by Microsoft corporate vice president Peter Moore, his indefatigable team, and Uncle Bill's bottomless wallet.

Moore's job, however, was made easier by the fact that for the greater part of this year, PlayStation chief Ken Kutaragi hadn't finalized the business terms for independent publishers on the PS3. And without that, he was reluctant to greenlight any expenditures on Western third-party exclusives. In previous generations, Kutaragi's slowness hadn't been much of a problem because the first two PlayStations launched in Japan 8-12 months ahead of North America, leaving plenty of time to nail things down with Western publishers. But with the PS3 launching in North America just a week after Japan--and a year after a fiercely competitive Microsoft--Kutaragi's tardiness became a major issue.

We've learned that Take-Two and Rockstar Games were interested in continuing their longtime relationship with Sony, in which they premiered their Grand Theft Auto games on PlayStation platforms exclusively for 6-12 months before bringing them to other systems. Also, Ubisoft was interested in making Assassin's Creed, due in stores next spring, exclusive to the PS3. But neither company's top executives--all extremely important figures in the games industry--could get an answer from Kutaragi. PlayStation's Japanese headquarters was effectively radio silent, and without Kutaragi's signoff, the normally independent American and European branches had no authority to reach agreements on the exclusives they believed could be valuable to the PS3 cause.

While Kutaragi dragged his feet, Microsoft's top brass called these third-parties almost daily, asking each of them, "What would it take for you to publish these games on 360?" Finally, the executives could wait no longer, and both Take-Two/Rockstar and Ubisoft cut deals to make their games available on Xbox 360 as well as PS3. None of the 3rd party executives we spoke with would address the matter directly. One source, who asked for anonymity because of the sensitive nature of these negotiations, says "I do have to give Microsoft a lot of credit for going after titles and doing whatever they can to generate third-party support. They've been magnificent in this generation."

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » December 1, 2006, 7:02 am

You realise that Kutaragi was moved UP to President of SCE, right? And is still in charge of everything to do with Sony's Playstation business, right?

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » December 1, 2006, 8:21 am

Winnow wrote: Totally not related to anything but are you Aussies are allowed to say fuck on public TV or is that some cable channel?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRi37Tb2 ... ed&search=

Fuck yes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOslVMOHzNE

miir · Post by **miir** » December 1, 2006, 12:06 pm

If that $100 was rolled into the price I'd be pissed... I don't need it or want it, and it wouldn't be much cheaper "on board".

Obviously, wireless capability in a piece of hardware costs nowhere near $100....the Wii has built in wireless and it's only $250.

When I buy a console, wireless connectivity will be a big deal to me and I imagine it will be for a lot of other people as well. MS really dropped the ball on that one.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 1, 2006, 7:11 pm

miir wrote:
If that $100 was rolled into the price I'd be pissed... I don't need it or want it, and it wouldn't be much cheaper "on board".
Obviously, wireless capability in a piece of hardware costs nowhere near $100....the Wii has built in wireless and it's only $250.

When I buy a console, wireless connectivity will be a big deal to me and I imagine it will be for a lot of other people as well. MS really dropped the ball on that one.

I don't hear anyone bitching about it but you. If it was a big deal, you'd hear much more whining about it from the media and in forums.

For those that want wireless, there's nothing special required. You can find a wireless networking adapter for as low as 24.99 on Newegg. You don't have to spend 88.00 an official 360 adapter.

Janx · Post by **Janx** » December 1, 2006, 8:20 pm

<-- not a big fan of wireless. I'm fine with the 360 being corded, that said I also have the 360 hooked up via VGA to my monitor and next to my computer..

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » December 2, 2006, 9:45 am

Winnow wrote:
miir wrote:
If that $100 was rolled into the price I'd be pissed... I don't need it or want it, and it wouldn't be much cheaper "on board".
Obviously, wireless capability in a piece of hardware costs nowhere near $100....the Wii has built in wireless and it's only $250.

When I buy a console, wireless connectivity will be a big deal to me and I imagine it will be for a lot of other people as well. MS really dropped the ball on that one.
I don't hear anyone bitching about it but you. If it was a big deal, you'd hear much more whining about it from the media and in forums.

For those that want wireless, there's nothing special required. You can find a wireless networking adapter for as low as 24.99 on Newegg. You don't have to spend 88.00 an official 360 adapter.

I was under the impression that only the official 360 wifi adapter worked with the 360. That normal 3rd party USB adapters didn't..

I don't care really cause I only game on a wired connection.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 2, 2006, 4:59 pm

Animalor wrote:
I was under the impression that only the official 360 wifi adapter worked with the 360. That normal 3rd party USB adapters didn't..

I don't care really cause I only game on a wired connection.

Not USB. You can use a ethernet wireless access point.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » December 2, 2006, 8:24 pm

Winnow wrote:
Animalor wrote:
I was under the impression that only the official 360 wifi adapter worked with the 360. That normal 3rd party USB adapters didn't..

I don't care really cause I only game on a wired connection.
Not USB. You can use a ethernet wireless access point.

link one for 29.99. The cheapest I have found was around 50-70 bucks.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 12, 2006, 8:45 pm

Some dude on a podcast was saying that the extra Wireless PS3 controllers you can buy for $50.00 don't come with the USB cable you need to recharge them. You need to use the one cable that came with your console. Man, how cheap can they be?

You'd think it's not a big deal but say you're having a marathon gaming session with a friend and want to recharge your controllers and resume playing the next day. You'd have to get up halfway through the night and change controllers to charge them both up because Sony won't include what can't cost more than .50 cents for them to make in quantities of one million.

I don't understand their whole deal with requiring a cable to sync and choosing bluetooth which anyone that's researched wireless mice and keyboards knows doesn't work well for gaming. Besides the syncing issue, there's multiple reports that the controller starts acting whacky from time to time.

Sony seems to tie themselves to certain technologies (bluetooth which may be good for cell phones and PDA's but not for anything that requires quick reactions, blu ray which isn't bad but not needed for gaming, and the PSP's Universal Media Disc to name a few) and it hurts their products.

What the hell is wrong with Sony? They didn't need to do any of this crap to make successful products.

Here's an issue that's been nagging me since I got my PlayStation 3 on Friday. I'm playing Resistance online, and suddenly the map will come up, or the score. I didn't hit the controls to bring these up...they just pop up on their own. Then at times I'll lose control, spin around, or sometimes even fire without wanting to. At first I thought it might be my general suckage at FPS games, but several readers have now complained about similar situations. Doesn't seem to happen when I am plugged in via the USB cable...only when I am wireless, and generally only when I am playing online.

When Ted Price demoed Resistance for Gamespot's 'On the Spot' show, the same Bluetooth disconnection happened that's been happening to a lot of people. Various people in forums have been thinking its game releated, when it's probably actually the ps3/controller somehow losing and re-establishing connections.

This does indeed sound like an interference issue. Frankly, I have to wonder why Sony went with Bluetooth for their controller connection. I can't see the upside - it's proprietary anyway, they don't need to interface with some kind of generic Bluetooth device. My only guess is that it might be cheaper to use off-the-shelf Bluetooth parts.

Here's the issue: Both Bluetooth and the PS3's WiFi operates within the 2.4 GHz band. WiFi uses about a third of the band, while Bluetooth uses frequency hopping and covers the whole band. The two are not compatible: While they occupy the same part of the spectrum, they interfere with each other, causing missing packets for both connection. Best case, this slows the connection down (you would probably perceive that as lag). Worst case, the receiver gets wrong signals (which could lead to the PS3 doing stuff you did not intend).

So, what can you do? First, turn of every other device which transmits at that frequency. That includes Laptops with Wifi, PDAs, Bluetooth phones and some cordless phones (though not all of them). Second, try changing some settings on your wireless router. Third, keep your wifi router *away* from your gamepads. That way, the signal they receive from each other is less strong and causes less interference. The best solution would be to take the PS3 apart and keep the two wifi parts inside the PS3 away from each other - obviously, that's not possible.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » December 12, 2006, 8:47 pm

Winnow wrote:Some dude on a podcast was saying that the extra Wireless PS3 controllers you can buy for $50.00 don't come with the USB cable you need to recharge them. You need to use the one cable that came with your console. Man, how cheap can they be?

Neither of my XBox 360 wireless controllers or the rechargable batteries came with the USB cable to charge them either.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 12, 2006, 8:51 pm

Boogahz wrote:
Winnow wrote:Some dude on a podcast was saying that the extra Wireless PS3 controllers you can buy for $50.00 don't come with the USB cable you need to recharge them. You need to use the one cable that came with your console. Man, how cheap can they be?
Neither of my XBox 360 wireless controllers or the rechargable batteries came with the USB cable to charge them either.

You got rechargeable batteries with your 360 controller? I just got normal AA batteries that I replace once in a blue moon. Can you use normal AA batteries with the PS3 controller?

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » December 12, 2006, 9:37 pm

Winnow wrote:
Boogahz wrote:
Winnow wrote:Some dude on a podcast was saying that the extra Wireless PS3 controllers you can buy for $50.00 don't come with the USB cable you need to recharge them. You need to use the one cable that came with your console. Man, how cheap can they be?
Neither of my XBox 360 wireless controllers or the rechargable batteries came with the USB cable to charge them either.
You got rechargeable batteries with your 360 controller? I just got normal AA batteries that I replace once in a blue moon. Can you use normal AA batteries with the PS3 controller?

No clue, I have no wish to buy a PS3 anytime soon

archeiron · Post by **archeiron** » December 12, 2006, 11:50 pm

Boogahz wrote:
Winnow wrote:
Boogahz wrote:
Winnow wrote:Some dude on a podcast was saying that the extra Wireless PS3 controllers you can buy for $50.00 don't come with the USB cable you need to recharge them. You need to use the one cable that came with your console. Man, how cheap can they be?
Neither of my XBox 360 wireless controllers or the rechargable batteries came with the USB cable to charge them either.
You got rechargeable batteries with your 360 controller? I just got normal AA batteries that I replace once in a blue moon. Can you use normal AA batteries with the PS3 controller?
No clue, I have no wish to buy a PS3 anytime soon

If you do, then head to Minneapolis. I did a tour of a Target Superstore today (don't ask; it was retarded) and they had five PS3s in stock. (20G for 400 and something)

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » December 13, 2006, 12:02 pm

Weird, not that I am going to buy one and even if I did it wouldn't be the 20 gig. BUT, do you happen to know which Target you were at ? Was it in downtown Minneapolis?

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 13, 2006, 1:28 pm

That backwards compatibility the PS3 touts doesn't extend to the resolutions of the earlier games, making the classic PS2 and PS1 games you might want to play on your PS3 look like crap compared to when played on their original systems.

Some people seem to care about this backward incompatibility and made a big stink over the 360's lack of 100% backwards compatibility (how many of you are playing old xbox games on your 360?) I could care less but for those that like to play old games and/or ragged on the 360 for it's lack of 100% backwards compatibility at launch, it's worth checking out the link below. At least the original xbox games don't take a graphics hit on the new system.

When played on the PS3, your PS1 and PS2 games will actually look DRAMATICALLY WORSE than on their original systems. Watch the video for a comparison...

...That a majority of the games affected are games that do not have 480p coded into them. It SEEMS that 480i only games are the ones exhibiting this glitch the most. Changing cables from HDMI to component to composite cables does not rectify the issue. Changing to a non-HD TV without scalers does not fix the issue either. Firmware upgrade 1.30 does not address the issue.

Some screens etc:

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playsta ... ing&page=1

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » December 13, 2006, 2:09 pm

It can all be fixed in firmware.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » December 13, 2006, 2:13 pm

vn_Tanc wrote:It can all be fixed in firmware.

Just wat till this magical firmware that fixes everything is released. I bet the bytes coming over the connection will be bathed in light and your ethernet cable or the air between your WAP and your PS3 will magically light up with wisps of awesome that are electromagically transmitted to make the PS3 the hub is coolness and competition obliteration it was always meant to be..

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 13, 2006, 2:32 pm

Sony blew off the most obvious things like checking the quality of the bulk of their old games that are 480i and failing to catch that 720p games won't upconvert to 1080i after having an extra year to screw around with this stuff?

I don't put much stock in their firmware updates. Their first one didn't fix the 720p --> 1080i issue.

Maybe four months from now with their planned firmware upgrade things will improve! That's only 120 days away. No biggie. If it was an easy fix, they would have got it right before launch...hell, they included the guts of the ps2 in the ps3. Perhaps they should have went all elephant man on us and just attached the new mini PS2 to the top of the ps3.

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » December 13, 2006, 2:56 pm

A little off topic but did any of you see Sony's attempt at viral marketing the PSP?

They made a website pretending to be two kids who love the PSP and tried to use a bunch of slang, but in a gramattically correct way. The whole site is just sad to read.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » December 13, 2006, 3:11 pm

http://www.alliwantforxmasisapsp.com/blog/

This is the viral marketing site for the PSP. The YouTube rap video is particularly atrocious.

Stuff is done for Sony by Zipatoni

It's actually generating a pretty interesting anti-Sony backlack among media and on message boards.

http://www.zipatoni.com

If you manage to look around their entirely flash-based site to their client list, PlayStation figures quite prominantly.

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Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » December 13, 2006, 4:08 pm

And it's not really the first time they've done odd marketing either. Everyone loves graffiti!

Sony would sell a lot more PSPs if they'd work on lowering the price.

miir · Post by **miir** » December 13, 2006, 5:20 pm

Winnow wrote:That backwards compatibility the PS3 touts doesn't extend to the resolutions of the earlier games, making the classic PS2 and PS1 games you might want to play on your PS3 look like crap compared to when played on their original systems.

Some people seem to care about this backward incompatibility and made a big stink over the 360's lack of 100% backwards compatibility (how many of you are playing old xbox games on your 360?) I could care less but for those that like to play old games and/or ragged on the 360 for it's lack of 100% backwards compatibility at launch, it's worth checking out the link below. At least the original xbox games don't take a graphics hit on the new system.

Some screens etc:

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playsta ... ing&page=1

So I looked at that thread and came to the conclusion that about 3 games look worse on the PS3 when viewed on a HD TV because it enhances them to 480p... basically the same thing that would happen if you hooked up your PS2 via HDMI.

Is that about right?

Truant · Post by **Truant** » December 13, 2006, 5:25 pm

miir wrote:
Winnow wrote:That backwards compatibility the PS3 touts doesn't extend to the resolutions of the earlier games, making the classic PS2 and PS1 games you might want to play on your PS3 look like crap compared to when played on their original systems.

Some people seem to care about this backward incompatibility and made a big stink over the 360's lack of 100% backwards compatibility (how many of you are playing old xbox games on your 360?) I could care less but for those that like to play old games and/or ragged on the 360 for it's lack of 100% backwards compatibility at launch, it's worth checking out the link below. At least the original xbox games don't take a graphics hit on the new system.

Some screens etc:

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playsta ... ing&page=1
So I looked at that thread and came to the conclusion that about 3 games look worse on the PS3 when viewed on a HD TV because it enhances them to 480p... basically the same thing that would happen if you hooked up your PS2 via HDMI.

Is that about right?

Yeah, but they were hoping noone would come to that conclusion because it makes them look as retarded as they are.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » December 13, 2006, 5:41 pm

Latest blog entry from alliwantforxmasisapsp.com wrote: Busted. Nailed. Snagged. As many of you have figured out (maybe our speech was a little too funky fresh???), Peter isn't a real hip-hop maven and this site was actually developed by Sony. Guess we were trying to be just a little too clever. From this point forward, we will just stick to making cool products, and use this site to give you nothing but the facts on the PSP.

Sony Computer Entertainment America

Heh I love how SCEA goes "Eell we tried to con you but we got caught. Ah well, We love ya and from now on you'll only get the truth from us!"

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 13, 2006, 5:51 pm

A little help for Miir and Truant. This guy is using the same TV to display the same game on the PS2 and then the PS3? Somehow the PS3 makes everything more jaggy on the same TV and all is well?

Hint: it's not the TV or HDMI that's the issue

On Xbox/Xbox 360, you put an original Xbox Game into the Xbox or the Xbox 360 and it looks equally bad or good on both machines. By comparison, you put an original 480i PS2 game into a PS2 console on the same TV and it looks better than if you put the same game in the PS3.

Changing cables from HDMI to component to composite cables does not rectify the issue

Let me know if you need any more help with the topic.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » December 13, 2006, 11:20 pm

Phil Harrison talks spring update features.

According to the attendee, XMB multi-tasking (to what extent, however, is unknown -- can we browse the Internet while downloading a demo?), new XMB display options (a fix for the scaling issues?), new animations for audio playback, new photo album options, PlayStation Store auto-resume and a PSP Remote Access option to access PS3 content via any Internet connection are all on the table.

Sony also plans to incorporate Tivo-like features into the machine sometime in the late summer/early fall of next year.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3155888

One question - How the hell does Sony plan on introducing TiVo-like functionality in a machine that has no video input? Offload the job to a computer with a TV tuner and a Sony client? Maybe Sony will be licensing BeyondTV or SageTV and offering it for free to PS3 owners.

Otherwise some intresting stuff. Not as feature-rich as i expected however this is probably far from an exhaustive list.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » December 13, 2006, 11:21 pm

Yay double post!

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » December 14, 2006, 6:51 am

Animalor wrote:
vn_Tanc wrote:It can all be fixed in firmware.
Just wat till this magical firmware that fixes everything is released. I bet the bytes coming over the connection will be bathed in light and your ethernet cable or the air between your WAP and your PS3 will magically light up with wisps of awesome that are electromagically transmitted to make the PS3 the hub is coolness and competition obliteration it was always meant to be..

What the fuck is up with you Xbox 360 gays?
Winnow overstated the problem (a _few_ titles are exhibiting problems), I stated they can be fixed. I made no claims as to how soon this is likely to happen or how orgasmic the process will be.

So fucking simmer down the lot of you.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » December 14, 2006, 8:40 am

vn_Tanc wrote:
Animalor wrote:
vn_Tanc wrote:It can all be fixed in firmware.
Just wat till this magical firmware that fixes everything is released. I bet the bytes coming over the connection will be bathed in light and your ethernet cable or the air between your WAP and your PS3 will magically light up with wisps of awesome that are electromagically transmitted to make the PS3 the hub is coolness and competition obliteration it was always meant to be..
What the fuck is up with you Xbox 360 gays?
Winnow overstated the problem (a _few_ titles are exhibiting problems), I stated they can be fixed. I made no claims as to how soon this is likely to happen or how orgasmic the process will be.
So fucking simmer down the lot of you.

Actually I was trying to be funny mostly. Sony's standard answer to the community was that every shortcoming that they has been bringing up with the PS3 would be fixed with a firmware patch. The goal of this was to dig at Sony and their PR particularly, not the hardware itself.

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » December 14, 2006, 8:47 am

Actually I was trying to be funny mostly. Microsoft's standard answer to the community was that every shortcoming that they has been bringing up with the XBox360 would be fixed with a firmware patch. The goal of this was to dig at Microsoft and their PR particularly, not the hardware itself.

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See how that works?

Honestly I'm finding the PS3/PSP clusterfuck as amusing as anyone else. I have a 360 and a Wii and no interest in a PS3. But every time Winnow inflates the tiniest hiccup of a TWO WEEK OLD MACHINE into a "HAHA XBOX > PS3, US > JPN, WHITEY > YELLOWSKIN" wankfest I feel like running out and buying 3 PS3s just on principle.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » December 14, 2006, 9:13 am

Animalor wrote:http://www.alliwantforxmasisapsp.com/blog/

This is the viral marketing site for the PSP. The YouTube rap video is particularly atrocious.

And now it looks like the video has been removed from YouTube! At least the link I had for it. That's not very fun. I had a strange desire to watch it again. Those guys looked like they packed some mean street cred.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » December 28, 2006, 3:31 am

An internet release group known as 'Paradox' have released a game image of Motorstorm (JAP). Where they have a field saying playable in the NFO file, they say 'Yes they are '. In the special notes sections, they also denote 'And a question to all, is there a bug in the system software from the playStation 3(R) Yes there is Nothing to add more..'. Could the PS3 be exploited ALREADY? Perhaps.

Well that didn't take long. In semi-related news:

A new tool called BackupHDDVD seems to have broken the AACS DRM file system. Now you can decrypt any ACS-protected movie that you own, so you can play it back using HDDVD player software. AACS is the copy protection also used in Blu-Ray so therefore it could and should work on Blu-Ray images too!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » January 3, 2007, 4:15 pm

5 reasons the PS3 isn't selling:

http://geekidiot.com/9/5-reasons-why-th ... t-selling/

Typical reasons but fun comment reading afterwards.

Are people seeing PS3's on store shelves? I haven't been to a store since before Christmas.

Akanae · Post by **Akanae** » January 3, 2007, 4:24 pm

I haven't seen any on shelves but I have heard rumors of them sitting on shelves. I did however see someone returning a 60g one to Costco (was ordered online, still all in the original shipped packaging) I didn't hear the story on the return but I wondered if he couldn't get it to sell on Ebay.

In other news people are still lining up for the Wii.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » January 3, 2007, 5:33 pm

I've seen a minimum of 8 60gig PS3's at the Best Buy nearest me every time I have gone since Christmas. Even a few days before Chrstmas, there were 1 or 2 out each time. It was funny watching how many people picked up the boxes and looked at them before putting them down and walking away.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » January 3, 2007, 6:08 pm

To be fair, I saw three full pallets of 360 consoles sitting out on the sales floor at Fry's Electronics right before Christmas. I think Microsoft was shipping bucketloads of them to stores so they could count them as "sold".

Still, it's surprising to see PS3s already available on shelves. That wasn't the case for the 360 until a little after January last year. I thought there would be a bigger fanatical Sony fan base to snap up at least the first million.

In some other news: (rumor so far)

Tekken 6 next PS3-exclusive that is coming to Xbox 360?

Published: 30 Dec 2006 17:18

News4Gamers.com

The rumours about PS3-exclusive games that might also come to Xbox 360 keep on coming. After recent messages about Devil May Cry 4 and Metal Gear Solid 4, this time it's Tekken 6 whose exclusivity is taken into doubt.

According to "sources within IGN" (the same source who said VF5 would come to Xbox 360) Namco is currently working on a Xbox 360 version of Tekken 6, that would appear winter 2007, just short after the PS3-version.

Is Tekken 6 the next exclusive Sony is going to lose and where will it stop? Will Sony have any exclusive important franchises left at the end of 2007?

Zygar · Post by **Zygar** » January 9, 2007, 1:25 am

Ok everyone, go out and get your PS3s, plenty for all!

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6163878.ht ... ws;title;3

I'll just sit home and play with my son's wii! Wait....that sounded bad...

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » January 9, 2007, 1:35 am

That's been about my experience as well. I've seen PS3s in stores but still so far no Wii. I'm a bit surprised the Wii is still so hard to find really.

Zygar · Post by **Zygar** » January 9, 2007, 2:26 am

The reason demand is so high is that Nintendo did what it set out to do....bring in the nongamer. I took my Wii to work one day and now 2 of the execs there (over 50 and never owned a console) are buying one as soon as they can find one after playing Wii sports for over an hour. Take normal sales for gamers and add in all the other people that get hooked the first time they play and the relatively cheap cost and you gots a winning combo.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » January 9, 2007, 1:47 pm

Same story, It took me two weeks of aggressive hunting to find a Wii, but I could have bought 100 PS3's from all different stores in that period.