Chicago 21 Arizona 24 Monday Night Football

noel · Post by **noel** » October 23, 2006, 10:49 am

Once again, my dream of a perfect season is ruined.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » October 23, 2006, 1:16 pm

Homercles wrote:Winnow winnow winnow....

How can your Cardinals be this bad? They lost to Oakland. Oakland for christs sake! They werent supposed to win a a game all year!
Good move firing the offensive coordinator.
Offense dominated Chicago..the best defense in the NFC. FIRE THE COORDINATOR!
Then lay a monster sized egg agains a pathetic raiders team.

The Cardinals are a broken team. Besides the few players that always come to play like Anquan Boldin, Adrian Wilson, Bertrand Berry, etc, the rest of the team seemed to be just going through the motions yesterday. Even Neil Rackers has lost all confidence.

Denny Green's gone and should be after this season. It ultimately comes down on his shoulders and he's not getting the job done either through his staff, his own motivational skills, along with some bad luck thrown in.

The focus now should be trying to preserve the core of the team for next year without desertions and spending whatever resources are available on improving the offensive line. Hopefully Leinart survives the year both physically and mentally.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » October 23, 2006, 3:05 pm

Maybe the Cards could hire a head coach who doesn't suck for a change? I bet Art Shell is available after the season!

Seriously, I WOULD have fired the offensive cordinator DURING the Bears game. You have a big lead on a team whose QB is having one of the worst nights in the history of the NFL......and instead of running th ball with a guy you paid $8 fucking million for, you fire it up with a rookie QB against the best defense in football.

They should gut that coaching staff, cut Edgerin, and use that money to lure over a top notch coach and assisstants. Spend anything left over on a high school offensive line.....which would be an upgrade over what they have and might enable Leinart to be consistent.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » October 23, 2006, 3:50 pm

You mean that one guy they paid 8 million dollars for that gave up a fumble that gave the bears one of the td's?

Honestly, I was surprised that they didn't pass for it instead of having Rackers kick that field goal. Boldin was literally schooling the Bears all night, they easily could have waltzed into the end zone instead of trying to win it with a field goal using an as of late suspect kicker.

I knew Edge would be shit when he went to Arizona. I've never thought of him to be a great running back, just and OK one behind a great offensive line. Speaking of which, didn't the same thing happen five years ago when Emmitt went there to die?

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » October 23, 2006, 4:29 pm

What pissed me off in the Cards vs Bears game is when they were trying to run out the clock and counting on Rackers to kick the game winning field goal, they get to 2nd and 2 with plenty of time left and they run the ball....pick up one yard on the 2nd down and then it's 3rd and 1 and they fail to pick it up to continue the drive and get Rackers closer. WTF. The team should have been hyped up on adrenaline and acted like the Superbowl was on the line while trying to make those 2 yards but they seemed content to fucking pansy it and ended up with a 40+ yard field goal which is makable but not a gimmie. That last drive disgusted me more than anything. It's ok that they ran on 2nd and 3rd but they should have given more effort.

I'm not sure I can blame the offensive coordinator for that save that someone didn't take the time to get the players fired up before the play and that's maybe Leinart's fault as a rookie. He should have been screaming in the huddle getting the offensive line fired up to at least try for one play and get a yard. I can't remember if they had a time out left, otherwise that would have been the time to take it and give the uber pep talk.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » October 23, 2006, 4:32 pm

The fact is that you need an offensive line that can block in order to have a running game....unless Barry Sanders comes out of retirement. The Card's OL is a disgrace to the sport.

You take one horrid OL, add in a rookie QB (or a statue in Warner), throw in a horrible head coach, mix with a running back on the downhill side of his career and you end up with the Cards.....a wildly inconsistent team that will make you pull your hair out if you are a fan.

Why doesn't Arizona just have some kind of fan drawing to be the coach for each game? The only coach still in the league worse than Denny is Art Shell....and I am not convinced that they are not wheeling a wax figure of Art to the sideline before gametime.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » October 23, 2006, 10:18 pm

Arizona should hire Pete Carroll

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » October 24, 2006, 8:20 am

Kelshara wrote:Arizona should hire Pete Carroll

Fuck that they can have Parcells

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » December 6, 2006, 1:15 pm

Winnow wrote:
miir wrote:
#1 scoring offense! (before last night's game) sheesh.
Um, no.

10 passing TDs, 4 rushing and 17 FGs.... 149 points = 29.8 points per game... They were 4 in offense scoring prior to last night game... now they are 7th.
http://www.bridgew.edu/athletics/DIRECT ... l-NEFC.cfm

As a team, the Bears lead the NEFC in scoring offense (40.3 ppg) and total offense (436.1 ypg) and rank third in both rushing offense (219.4 ypg) and passing offense (216.7 ypg) thanks in large part to the outstanding work of the offensive line.

lol, I was looking for something else when I caught this post. How did we miss that you were not talking about the actual CHICAGO Bears in this post! Bridgewater State College? wtf?

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 6, 2006, 1:18 pm

Kelshara's Pete Carroll coach comment is looking a little more like a possibility lately if the Cardinals are willing to pay him big bucks.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » December 6, 2006, 2:20 pm

lol, what a fucking idiot.

Tyek · Post by **Tyek** » December 6, 2006, 3:22 pm

Maybe it is an ego thing, I am sure he has plenty of money and would just want to prove he could coach at that level, but he would be stupid. He is a God at USC and in the NFL he is just a coach that will eventually be fired.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » December 6, 2006, 3:40 pm

Pete has proven that he CAN'T coach in the pros. If he leaves, then he's a damn fool.

Only in college is it possible to amass a huge talent gap. In the NFL, you actually have to coach.

noel · Post by **noel** » December 6, 2006, 4:06 pm

I can't count the number of times in local interviews that he's categorically denied any rumor about him going to coach anywhere other than USC. No only has he denied the rumors, but he's also denied any interest in ever coaching in the NFL again. You can hear in his voice how much he hated that time in his career.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » December 6, 2006, 4:30 pm

I don't know, I believe he could succeed in the NFL in the right environment. I believe he is a good coach, and not just a great recruiter (which there is NO doubt that he is). However, if I was him I would stay at USC. He truly seems to love his job there.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 6, 2006, 5:04 pm

never say never $$

Matt Leinart talks on Pete Carroll speculation

By Darren Urban

East Valley Tribune (Mesa, Ariz.)

(MCT)

MESA, Ariz. - The rumor mill has heated up with the possibility that University of Southern California coach Pete Carroll could end up with the Cardinals if Dennis Green is fired. Quarterback Matt Leinart said he frequently talks to his former coach, but the subject of Carroll coaching in the NFL apparently has not come up.

"I would never rule out that possibility in the future . . . (but) what he has at SC is something special," Leinart said.

Asked about the possibility of Carroll coaching him again, Leinart smiled.

"I love coach Carroll," Leinart said. "He is real close to me. . . . If that day were to ever come, whether it was 10 years from now or whatever, it would be fun."

For his part, Carroll went on ESPN's "Rome is Burning" and reiterated he has a "good setup" at USC.

"We do get to win so much and have such a great time doing it that I don't know how anything in the NFL can match that," Carroll said. "I can't even see anything like that coming together in an NFL franchise."

Open letter to Pete Carroll: Forget NFL and Arizona desert

By Dennis Dodd
CBS SportsLine.com Senior Writer

LOS ANGELES -- Please don't go, Pete Carroll. We need you.

If the whispers are true that Saturday was your last regular-season game as USC's coach, then you're inhaling something other than L.A. smog.

Aside from the final score against UCLA, Saturday was perfect. The climate matched his team's play for most of the last four years -- both were national championship caliber.

This is the first December since 2002 that Carroll and the Trojans are not preparing for a shot at No. 1. UCLA took back the city for a day with a 13-9 victory.

So is that enough to push Carroll out the door? Is USC's Camelot crumbling? Is this the sign Carroll needed to push him to the No Fun League?

Carroll kind of played footsie last week with the idea, wondering out loud about the NFL's advantages. His former quarterback Matt Leinart caught a whiff and said, sure, Pete would be perfect for the Arizona Cardinals.

Pete Carroll might be perfect for a lot of things, including the NFL, but someone needs to check. Are the Cardinals still in the NFL? Arizona is the home of the most stupefying, achingly mediocre franchise in pro sports. Relocating it from St. Louis to the desert in 1988 only provided a lower humidity reading when the team stunk.

Forgive Leinart. He's just a kid. He doesn't know what horrors await him. The Bidwill family has owned the Cardinals for 74 years. There have been six playoff appearances since 1947, none since 1998.

The franchise left St. Louis because Billy Bidwill said fans weren't supporting the team. False and false. The Cardinals played to 87 percent capacity at old Busch Stadium their last lame-duck year.

Those people were either ignorant to the situation or bored. The Bidwills didn't give fans a reason to come out. This was a franchise that drafted a kicker (John Lee) in the second round. This was a franchise that once fired coach Jim Hanifan, who found out at halftime of the season finale in 1985. The locks had been changed per Bidwill's orders.

This is a franchise that came to the desert for an attendance boost and then saw crowds shrink to 25,000 or so -- unless the Cowboys or Bears were in town.

Apparently, snowbirds don't like losing either.

Pete, if you're aching for a new challenge, the Cardinals ain't it. The smart money says, if you ever go, it will be if/when the NFL moves a team to Southern California. That makes sense.

But you're throwing your career away if you go to Arizona. Ego trumps all at times. Carroll has a huge one, which makes him no different than a lot of his peers. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell wants to add some sizzle to the franchise. The Super Bowl comes to Phoenix in 2008. What if the Cardinals played the first home game in Super Bowl history?

A snowstorm hitting the Valley of the Sun is more likely.

Turning around the Trojans was like changing the oil in the car. Turning around the Cardinals would be like planning the first manned flight to Mars.

Pete, we know your days might be numbered at Troy. We've been told that you are concerned about the NCAA. Not so much in the Reggie Bush case, but because of the temptations that are around every corner in La-La Land.

You can recruit your behind off, but maybe you're thinking that sooner or later a scandal is going to bring everything down.

But did you gaze up at the San Gabriels for a moment during that loss to UCLA? Only the Song Girls were more beautiful.

How many coaches can get a sunburn in the first week of December? While the rest of the country was digging out of snow, it somehow stayed below 80 degrees on one of L.A.'s great sports Saturdays.

USC-UCLA.

Lakers-Clippers.

Ducks-Kings.

Out at Santa Monica Beach, Eric Gagne was building sandcastles. We don't make this up. It was some kind of promotional thing with the Lakers' Jordan Farmar.

Pete, did you feel the love? This is your team, your time, your town. A return trip to the Rose Bowl in less than a month isn't a bad consolation prize.

And this was a rebuilding year.

Do you really want to leave all of it behind?

Please don't go, Pete. I buried the lead, but this is a selfish column. We, the sporting press, need you. The best reason: You helped simplify the BCS. With USC playing in championship games, that eliminated one half of a headache.

You're colorful, you're cooperative. You get it. You realize football isn't some dark, mystical science, it's our national obsession. You're one of us, a fan, one of the guys.

You're the anti-Nick Saban.

There are better things to do to than coaching 13-10 snorefests on Sunday afternoons.

Better things like blowing out UCLA on Saturday afternoons.

Just wait until next year.