NOW break out the champagne!

noel · Post by **noel** » November 8, 2006, 3:15 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/08/ ... index.html

Rumsfeld Steps down!

Thank God.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » November 8, 2006, 3:19 pm

We need a "jig" emoticon.

Post by **Sylvus** » November 8, 2006, 3:29 pm

I suppose you're going to want to piss on his corpse now too?

I'm actually okay with that, he hurt our country a lot more than Saddam did.

noel · Post by **noel** » November 8, 2006, 3:38 pm

I was just hoping to raise a glass. I normally use the restroom to piss.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » November 8, 2006, 3:50 pm

The first word that came to mind was scapegoat.

Arborealus · Post by **Arborealus** » November 8, 2006, 3:54 pm

Now if Bush and Cheney would just execute a suicide pact...we'd be aight...

(edit: AFTER the new speaker is sworn in that is....)

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » November 8, 2006, 3:55 pm

Arborealus wrote:Now if Bush and Cheney would just execute a suicide pact...we'd be aight...

hehe, I couldn't help but think of The Life of Brian when the Suicide Squad attacks as I read that...then again, it could still be the Jehovah Jehovah Jehovah title.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » November 8, 2006, 3:59 pm

It's been a good day

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 8, 2006, 7:07 pm

Gates is the president of Texas A&M University and a close friend of the Bush family. He served as director of the Central Intelligence for Bush's father from 1991 until 1993.

I don't know how much is going to change with his replacement.

Animale · Post by **Animale** » November 8, 2006, 7:40 pm

I personally think the main reason he resigned is so he isn't dragged in front of the Armed Services Committee in a hostile environment when he's still directly associated with the administration. Rummy tends to say dumb things when confronted with opposing points of view and/or dissent - this way the administration has insulated itself from his angry utterances. I guess we'll see what/how this all comes out in the upcoming oversight hearings.

Animale

miir · Post by **miir** » November 8, 2006, 9:19 pm

Animale wrote:I personally think the main reason he resigned is so he isn't dragged in front of the Armed Services Committee in a hostile environment when he's still directly associated with the administration. Rummy tends to say dumb things when confronted with opposing points of view and/or dissent - this way the administration has insulated itself from his angry utterances. I guess we'll see what/how this all comes out in the upcoming oversight hearings.

Animale

You could sit him in an open field under a cloudless sky and he would tell you with a straight face that the sky is green.. and that he has intelligence reports to back it up.

Moonwynd · Post by **Moonwynd** » November 8, 2006, 9:47 pm

I am glad Rumsfeld is out as well...but remember that he offered his resignation twice to Bush and twice bush would not accept it. Rumsfeld was a relic...Bush is far to concerned with loyalty to his friends and associates at the cost of our nation's well being.

Bush couldn't do the right thing and accept Rumsfeld's two previous resignations...so the citizens of this country had to do it for him.

Had Bush accepted the resignation two years ago, yesterday's results may have been quite different.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » November 9, 2006, 1:15 am

"Relic" dosen't even begin to identify this man. For the love of god, he didn't even believe in dancing. Yes, he is a scapegoat, but he deserves it more than most.

I'm so glad he's gone.

Deward · Post by **Deward** » November 10, 2006, 11:32 am

You got to be kidding me. Rumsfeld was no scapegoat. He was a worthless sack of shit and it is primarily because of him that Iraq is the shit storm it is today. Before the war started, Rummy refused to listen to more informed opinions on what was going to happen. He continued to disregard advice and strategies from career military leaders with way more experience than him.

His previous resignation attempts were publicity ploys at best. He never had any intention of ever stepping down until he was finally forced out now. I really think that if he had resigned two years ago, the war would be a lot different. Not sure if it would be better but it couldn't be worse.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » November 10, 2006, 12:50 pm

Deward wrote:You got to be kidding me. Rumsfeld was no scapegoat. He was a worthless sack of shit and it is primarily because of him that Iraq is the shit storm it is today. Before the war started, Rummy refused to listen to more informed opinions on what was going to happen. He continued to disregard advice and strategies from career military leaders with way more experience than him.

His previous resignation attempts were publicity ploys at best. He never had any intention of ever stepping down until he was finally forced out now. I really think that if he had resigned two years ago, the war would be a lot different. Not sure if it would be better but it couldn't be worse.

He is a text book example of a scapegoat.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » November 10, 2006, 1:37 pm

Not really. A scapegoat is usually someone who is blamed for something that they were not or only partially responsible for. The weight of responsibility for the majority of the fuckups in Iraq and Afghanistan fall squarely on his shoulders.

noel · Post by **noel** » November 10, 2006, 3:56 pm

I agree with Kyoukan. He had a hell of a lot more of a hand in this than any 'scapegoat'.

I do however think that it's Cheney pulling the strings. I think it's possible that Cheney might be historically considered the most powerful VP ever (obviously not a good thing).

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 10, 2006, 4:09 pm

noel wrote: I do however think that it's Cheney pulling the strings. I think it's possible that Cheney might be historically considered the most powerful VP ever (obviously not a good thing).

Perhaps the U.S president will go the route of British Royalty (completely useless gossip magazine material) while the Vice President takes on the Prime Minister's role.