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Who do you think will win the congressional elections?

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Who do you think will win the congressional elections?

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As an outsider, it looks like the Dems should take it, but after the last President election, people learnt not to overestimate the level of intelligence in Americans.

With US citizens finally waking up to the facts everyone else has seen about Iraq for years, these new elections give another chance to change several policy's, most notably on the war on terror and in Iraq.

So, as most of you beans are Americans and have a better idea of the general concensus on the ground than me, I'm interested to see what you think :wink:
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i don't look at the party. i look at the person.
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I chose Democrat on this. Mainly because the Republican candidate in our area is running a bigger mud slinging campaign than the Democrat. I hate the mud slinging. I want to know what they are going to do for us, not what the other person did out of context.

Also the Democrat called our house personally and didn't have his 92 year old grandmother send a recorded message like the Republican did.
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I believe the Democrats are very likely going to take the house, and that the senate will end up very closely split (within 1).
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Where's the option for "not the american people"?
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I assumed that was a given :P
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Post by Boogahz »

What about a "Mixed" option? There are some places where one party has no chance against the other no matter what the current administration is, or isn't, doing.
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Boogahz wrote:What about a "Mixed" option? There are some places where one party has no chance against the other no matter what the current administration is, or isn't, doing.
heh, like texas?

the state is so amazingly unwinnable for a democrat atm due to DeLay's redistricting (that was upheld in the supreme fucking court) that the party has pulled all funding for candidates here in order to push harder elsewhere.

Feels great to live in a state that's pretty much fucked back into the stone age.

Our gubernatorial race is so whacky I honestly think it's a big elaborate joke and someone is going to let me in on it any minute now.

edit. btw I'm voting for Dregor's option.
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Nick wrote:As an outsider, it looks like the Dems should take it, but after the last President election, people learnt not to overestimate the level of intelligence in Americans.

With US citizens finally waking up to the facts everyone else has seen about Iraq for years, these new elections give another chance to change several policy's, most notably on the war on terror and in Iraq.

So, as most of you beans are Americans and have a better idea of the general concensus on the ground than me, I'm interested to see what you think :wink:
Little side note, but I was just curious if you know how big of an uneducated you look like when you call people stupid because they voted for someone that you don't like. Has it ever occurred to you that you may be wrong? Probably not, most of you are far too arrogant for that.
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Don't worry Funk, I could give a shit what opinion a George Bush/pro war/whatever retarded stance you think is acceptable/Rumsfeld cockjockey supporter has of me, they surrendered that privelage long ago.

You can go to bed now and rest in peace. Forever, preferably.
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the new neocon copout is to slit your wrists and whine about how condesending the democrats are
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i voted for bush twice
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Truant wrote:
Boogahz wrote:What about a "Mixed" option? There are some places where one party has no chance against the other no matter what the current administration is, or isn't, doing.
heh, like texas?

the state is so amazingly unwinnable for a democrat atm due to DeLay's redistricting (that was upheld in the supreme fucking court) that the party has pulled all funding for candidates here in order to push harder elsewhere.

Feels great to live in a state that's pretty much fucked back into the stone age.

Our gubernatorial race is so whacky I honestly think it's a big elaborate joke and someone is going to let me in on it any minute now.

edit. btw I'm voting for Dregor's option.
Unfortunately Austin got fucked by the newest redistricting fiasco. The local news was actually standing in an intersection in the middle of town where 3 different districts meet...in the MIDDLE of an intersection in the MIDDLE of a major city. What the fuck does Austin have to do with the Valley when it comes to it's needs from politicians?
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Funkmasterr wrote:
Nick wrote:As an outsider, it looks like the Dems should take it, but after the last President election, people learnt not to overestimate the level of intelligence in Americans.

With US citizens finally waking up to the facts everyone else has seen about Iraq for years, these new elections give another chance to change several policy's, most notably on the war on terror and in Iraq.

So, as most of you beans are Americans and have a better idea of the general concensus on the ground than me, I'm interested to see what you think :wink:
Little side note, but I was just curious if you know how big of an uneducated you look like when you call people stupid because they voted for someone that you don't like. Has it ever occurred to you that you may be wrong? Probably not, most of you are far too arrogant for that.
The only people who look more stupid than those that voted for Bush a second time are those that are still defending it. You were had, suck it up, move on.
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Little side note, but I was just curious if you know how big of an uneducated you look like when you call people stupid because they voted for someone that you don't like.
How big of an uneducated are you?!
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Hey, Uneducated called, he wants his noun back.
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While I hope the republicans keep the power im afraid the demo's will when.
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I hope a war breaks out and all of the democrats and republicans kill each other so the rest of us can quit being led by a group mentality to pick one side or the other. Alas, a war did break out... I blame Carter! If his administration would have been better then the world would be a better place!

With a few examples,I think you will all find that President Carter was the root of all problems. Korean nukes? Carter! Slave reparations? Carter! Native American casino scandals? Carter! The Inquisition? Carter!!

See how foolish that sounds? We can all take a piece of the blame for everything that has gone on, or we can shift all the blame to some other sap and perpetuate the problem. To paraphrase the great Western philosopher Spang, "It is not the merits of the political party one should assess when determining the best candidate, for that will surely lead to folly. One should base ones opinion on the merits of the individual. Only in this can we bring our world to the peace and prosperity that we all dream of."
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I'm sorry but could your poll include the Green party?
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Only way the Green Party would ever be in power is with a coup involving an army of Ents and Huorns.
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Al wrote:To paraphrase the great Western philosopher Spang, "It is not the merits of the political party one should assess when determining the best candidate, for that will surely lead to folly. One should base ones opinion on the merits of the individual. Only in this can we bring our world to the peace and prosperity that we all dream of."
Thats a nice thought but in our partisan political systems, the needs/desires/philosophy of the party invariably trump those of the individual wishing to represent his/her constituency. There are very few instances an individual can do (vote) what they want, regardless of everyone else because in politics they need to play the "favour trading" or "compromise" game to gain enough influence to get anything accomplished... and even for independants or 3rd parties its a treacherous path because for every favour point you gain in supporting someone's bill/resolution you lose one with their opponents. Thus most politicians end up choosing a party whose philosophy is at least somewhat similar to their own.
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This is what you get if you "vote the man" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnaby_Joyce

Sure, he's crossed the floor twice, but only to save face in votes where it didn't make a difference.
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Wulfran wrote:
Al wrote:To paraphrase the great Western philosopher Spang, "It is not the merits of the political party one should assess when determining the best candidate, for that will surely lead to folly. One should base ones opinion on the merits of the individual. Only in this can we bring our world to the peace and prosperity that we all dream of."
Thats a nice thought but in our partisan political systems, the needs/desires/philosophy of the party invariably trump those of the individual wishing to represent his/her constituency. There are very few instances an individual can do (vote) what they want, regardless of everyone else because in politics they need to play the "favour trading" or "compromise" game to gain enough influence to get anything accomplished... and even for independants or 3rd parties its a treacherous path because for every favour point you gain in supporting someone's bill/resolution you lose one with their opponents. Thus most politicians end up choosing a party whose philosophy is at least somewhat similar to their own.
Your entire statement is exactly what I am talking about. We need to stop the partisan crap and work together. Our nation has become so dependent on a 2 party system, it no longer matters what the actual issue is. A Democrat who says he is for the war in Iraq is labeled a Republican sympathizer by his fellow Democrats. That says to me that all Republicans must be gung-ho for killing people not like us. I know for a fact that that just isn't true. If this hadn't been going on 20 years ago we wouldn't be in this mess. If it stops now we can work towards a better world instead of a better Republican or Democratic (or, albeit unlikely, Green) Party. I cannot recall one situation in my life where the better course of action was to belittle and undermine someone who I was supposed to be working with. It gets us nowhere, and it costs the taxpayers money for that lack of progress.

I am an independent, like every other person in this entire world. I have my own opinions, and I am free to speak those opinions whenever and wherever I like, as long as it doesn't oppress or harass one of my fellow citizens. For my believing that I am an independent person, I am legally persecuted, for there is no "Primary" for people who refuse to sign up with a party. I was never given the chance to vote for the person I felt best suited for the job in either of the past Presidential elections, and not because there wasn't someone running. It was because the "Party" decided to go with a buffoon instead of someone worthwhile. I never had my say in it because I was not involved with the "Party". Because of our current system the laws of this nation have been undermined (this statement applies to several recent Presidents, not only our current one), and our freedoms have been stripped. Because of our current system we have bickering among people who are being paid(!) to work together. If I were to behave like that at my job, I would be fired and replaced by someone who wouldn't do that. Because of our current system, that cannot ever happen. Regardless of who is elected, without a complete change, the bickering and partisan bullshit will continue, and it can and will only result in the downfall of the greatest nation this world has seen. The only way for complete change is for everyone who votes to vote based on the merits of the individual rather than the party.

Continued partisan voting will result in continued partisan politics.
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Keverian FireCry wrote:Only way the Green Party would ever be in power is with a coup involving an army of Ents and Huorns.
QFT :D
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In conclusion, it's good to see people may think the times are changing and that comprimising your country's freedoms and invading countries with nothing to do with 911 is not the best way to fight terror as retaliation for 911.
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Nick wrote: invading countries with nothing to do with 911 is not the best way to fight terror as retaliation for 911.
I think he was trying to save money when he invaded Iraq. The US was spending billions each year enforcing the no-fly zones in Iraq, and I believe our President saw this as an easy way to kill 2 birds with 1 stone... Get rid of ol' Saddam and close up the deficit. How many years has it been? I still don't see either one of those goals completed (although I may be inclined to give partial credit on the Saddam issue, I still see his face in the news once or twice a week...)
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