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I'm always searching around for something better when it comes to display technology and I finally found something that looks like it will be a significant step above the current display tech (LCD, DLP (in it's current form), and Plasma)

Brightness, color, low wattage, and no need for a mercury lamp = awesome front/rear projectors. For those that have been following some of my projector threads, the biggest drawback of front projectors is the cost of replacement lamps and a washed out image with a brightly lit room. A laser based system would solve all of these problems.

It looks like they're a year away, but if you own an HDTV now or aren't looking to get one for a year, I'd target a laser based HDTV with your next purchase, probably starting in the early part of 2008. I rotate HDTVs every two years much like my PCs so that's perfect for me!
Are Laser HDTVs on the Horizon?

By Bryan Gardiner

Lasers – the TV of tomorrow?

High-definition laser televisions have been popping up at various trade shows and industry events for more than a year. Now, on the heels of yet another prototype appearance -- this time at an event for Arasor International, an Australian company that produces a key component for the semiconductor lasers -- it would appear that laser HDTV is only a little more than a year away from entering the commercial market.

According to Greg Niven, vice president of marketing at Novalux, the Silicon Valley-based company that developed the Necsel semiconductor laser technology used in these televisions, consumers can expect to see the first generation of laser HDTVs by December of 2007.

While he was unable to confirm precisely which manufacturers would be releasing them, Niven did say that Novalux has been working closely with Mitsubishi and others.

The news comes at a time when industry statistics indicate that American consumers are now buying close to five million high-definition televisions per year. As such, it is probable that companies like Samsung and Sony will want in on the laser-based technology as well.

"The biggest thing people will notice is the brightness and color," Niven said of laser HDTVs.

"If you look at the screen of today's plasma or LDC televisions, you're actually only seeing 40-45 percent of the color content the human eye can pick up," Niven said. "With a laser-based display, that number jumps to 90 percent."


It should be noted that laser television technology is actually not all that new. Engineers have been trying to come up with various ways of using lasers to illuminate television images for years. Because of their wide color gamut and high light energy efficiency, lasers are also seen as a viable illumination source for other projection applications.

Until recently, the problem with most lasers was that they lacked the power, the small form factor and the cost performance to be utilized in rear projection TVs. The new Necsel technology addresses those problems by providing a more cost effective, energy efficient and lightweight alternative to previous semiconductor laser platforms, said Niven.

In today's existing rear-projection TVs, light from a mercury lamp located in the rear section of the unit is split up into red, blue and green to create the images on the front screen. In lieu of white-light mercury lamps, a laser TV uses red, blue and green lasers to generate those images; only the laser produces much brighter and deeper colors.

Furthermore, they use about a third of the power of conventional, large-screen displays that typically rely on high-powered lamps, according to Novalux.

"When compared to the 850 watts a 50-inch plasma television can gobble up, that's a big deal," Niven said.

Of course all of this means that in addition to the myriad display technologies already available or in development -- plasma, LCD, S.E.D. (surface-conduction electron-emitter display) and Carbon nanotube -- consumers will have yet another option when shopping for a flat-panel, high-definition television next Christmas.
Another nice development is projectors starting to use LED light sources:
the Toshiba TDP-FF1AU is built with an energy-efficient LED (light emitting diode) light source that can last for up to 10,000 hours of use, which the company says is much longer than a conventional projector lamp. The LED light source does not heat up the projector, eliminating powering up or cool down time, and increasing battery life. A fan isn’t required either, enabling quiet operation.
That's huge in reducing lamp replacement costs (~300/lamp for most projectors) and heat related issues.) Right now, the LED based front projectors aren't very bright so they aren't ready for prime time yet.
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this is related in the realm of HD TV...but I'll admit, I'm not up to speed on them atm. (I don't even have access to a TV atm, but that changes soon)

Anyways, my question:
Aren't actual tube HDTV's still the best as far as picture quality goes, but aren't all the rage, because they cannot have the large displays of above listed, LCD, Plasma, DLP, etc.?

I'm honestly asking and not baiting some kind of TV technology cockfest over whose is better.
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Truant wrote:this is related in the realm of HD TV...but I'll admit, I'm not up to speed on them atm. (I don't even have access to a TV atm, but that changes soon)

Anyways, my question:
Aren't actual tube HDTV's still the best as far as picture quality goes, but aren't all the rage, because they cannot have the large displays of above listed, LCD, Plasma, DLP, etc.?

I'm honestly asking and not baiting some kind of TV technology cockfest over whose is better.
Up to 36" tube TV's produce the best color but that's why I mentioned the huge color improvements of the Laser HDTVs coming soon. Viewing angle was always an advantage of tube TVs as well but that's not an issue with front projection. I'm not sure how rear projection laser TVs will be.

The new 24" LCD monitors being discussed here; Dell 2405/7 and Acer 24", don't have viewing angle issues for the most part compared with older LCD tech.
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Direct View (old fashioned CRT style) HD sets do have amazing pictures, but there is a huge tradeoff. They are freaking BEASTS. I have a panasonic 32" widescreen Direct View CRT. It was my first HD investment a couple of years ago, and I went that route because I wanted a set that would still do a good job of displaying old fashioned standard definition analog sources, which CRT's have been doing an admirable job of for a long long time.

The downside is that the thing weights almost 300lbs, and even at 32" takes up a large portion of a fairly small room. I can't move it by myself, and since I live alone, there is a good chance it wont be getting moved anywhere any time soon. I actually dread the day that I decide to get rid of that behemoth.

In comparison Plasma's and flat LCD's are only a few inches deep, and can be mounted on a wall, and are light enough to be handled by one person. The nicer ones have amazing pictures themselves, especially the newer 3 lens LCD's and high end plasmas. Of course they are extremely expensive as well.

Even the new rear projection technology is extremely light by comparison to CRT. My 56" Samsung DLP set weighs under 90lbs. Easy enough for me to move around by myself. The newer 1080p sets are amazing and the price point on these is becoming more and more reasonable every day.

CRT's also generate a lot more heat, which is great for the winter time, but in a small room, in summer, it can contribute to your AC bill.

The bottom line is, compromise. Take everything into consideration and see what works best for you.
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Engadget wrote:Not that it should come as any surprise, but most manufacturers don't give a shiznit 'bout those laser TVs. Yeah, despite all the blow-harding by Novalux's C-levels about laser TVs supplanting plasmas, most big panel manufacturers have no plans to bring laser TV technology to market anytime soon. See, much of the laser TV hype is coming from Australia's own Arasor -- the company behind the optoelectronic chip central to the laser projection device -- so the Sydney Morning Herald went ahead and contacted Fujitsu, Pioneer, Samsung and Philips to get the poop. Just like we expected, none of them have any immediate plans to incorporate laser TV into their product lines, having already made significant investments in plasma and LCD. In fact, when asked if laser was a plasma killer, Samsung, who along with Mitsubishi are supposed to launch actual product before the close of 2007, stated that "Laser TV is one of a number of competing, next generation formats. At this stage, it is too early to say more." Still, Arasor's co-director Larry Marshall, continues boasting that by January's CES, "eight different manufacturers, including the major ones" will show-up with laser TVs on display. Maybe, but first-prototypes are miles away from mass production, eh Larry. Still, with Arasor set to list on the Australian Stock Exchange today in a few days, well, what do you expect.
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Engadget wrote:Not that it should come as any surprise, but most manufacturers don't give a shiznit 'bout those laser TVs. Yeah, despite all the blow-harding by Novalux's C-levels about laser TVs supplanting plasmas, most big panel manufacturers have no plans to bring laser TV technology to market anytime soon. See, much of the laser TV hype is coming from Australia's own Arasor -- the company behind the optoelectronic chip central to the laser projection device -- so the Sydney Morning Herald went ahead and contacted Fujitsu, Pioneer, Samsung and Philips to get the poop. Just like we expected, none of them have any immediate plans to incorporate laser TV into their product lines, having already made significant investments in plasma and LCD. In fact, when asked if laser was a plasma killer, Samsung, who along with Mitsubishi are supposed to launch actual product before the close of 2007, stated that "Laser TV is one of a number of competing, next generation formats. At this stage, it is too early to say more." Still, Arasor's co-director Larry Marshall, continues boasting that by January's CES, "eight different manufacturers, including the major ones" will show-up with laser TVs on display. Maybe, but first-prototypes are miles away from mass production, eh Larry. Still, with Arasor set to list on the Australian Stock Exchange today in a few days, well, what do you expect.
I would expect the manufacturers that don't have the technology close to ready to downplay it for the exact reasons the articles states (huge investments in other techs) Mitsubishi has been displaying the prototype and their comment merely says "it is too early to say more".

On the other hand, I've followed a little company called Microvision for years that has laser technology and VRD (Virtual Retina Display) Tech which is taking forever to get their awesome technology into a consumer product. I've been looking forward to laster displays since 1997 when I first bought stock in Microvision so do get a bit hyped up on the topic!

http://www.microvision.com/

14 months is still a long ways off.

BTW, I really like Engadget's weekly podcast. It's one of the more informative shows with the least amount of bullshit chatter about their personal lives which often creeps into these new podcasts. On some of them, you have to sit through 10 minutes of updates about their family lives, vacations, hemorrhoids, etc until the useful info of the show starts flowing.

Engadget's Podcast is worth a listen:

http://www.engadget.com/category/podcasts/
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