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Steve Wozniak - The Good Side of Apple

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Any respect for Apple should be focused on Steve Wozniak, not Steve Jobs.

Gates and Wozniak had computer skills. Jobs was just a marketing dude doing harm to Apple along with the financial success.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/09/27/appl ... index.html
'iWoz' -- Apple co-founder tells his story

NEW YORK (Reuters) -- There was excited chatter as the revolutionaries met in a nondescript garage in Menlo Park, California, but in the beginning few of them really knew how they would change the world.

And yet within a year of that first meeting of the Homebrew Computer Club on March 5, 1975, a computer was in the hands of consumers for just a few hundred dollars and the personal computer revolution was under way.

Steve Wozniak says that meeting inspired him to design and build the first Apple computer, but he almost didn't show up. "I was shy and felt that I knew little about the newest developments in computers," he recalls.

Shyness is a theme for Wozniak. He is "the other Steve" in the duo behind Apple Computer Inc. , the self-effacing engineer to Steve Jobs' brash marketing whiz.

While Jobs, now presiding over the success of Apple's iPod, is almost a household name, the other Steve has been content to stay out of the limelight, until now.

In a book titled "iWoz" published this week, Wozniak seeks to tell the engineer's side of the story and set a few things in the record straight.

For him, the day that defined the personal computer was June 29, 1975, the first time he typed a character on a keyboard and saw it show up on the screen right in front of him.

"Every computer before the 'Apple I' had that front panel of switches and lights. Every computer since has had a keyboard and a screen," he writes.
Telling his story

Wozniak, variously known as "Woz" and the "Wizard of Woz," put together circuit boards for what would be called the Apple I, and Jobs sold them for $500 each to a new computer store, the Byte Shop in Mountain View, California.

"There are stories that Steve (Jobs) and I engineered those first computers together," he writes. "I did them alone."

By 1977, the pair had introduced the Apple II, still recognizable as a personal computer even today, and sold 2 million by the time it was superseded by the Macintosh.

As Apple grew into a huge company, Wozniak shunned management positions and worked in a cubicle alongside other engineers, even though he was a co-founder.

An incident that still grates is the way his departure from Apple in 1985 was reported in the press. The fact that he was unhappy with the way Apple was going was not a factor, he said, and he left solely so he could start his own company. He is still on the payroll of Apple and sometimes represents the company at events.

He also still counts Jobs among his friends, and in an interview said that any differences between them were very minor and a "little bit misinterpreted."

But his book tells some choice stories from their long friendship, including a controversy over a fee for a game called Breakout in the early days and another incident in which Jobs blocked a design company from working with Wozniak.
Sharing the wealth

Wozniak also said that Jobs declined to write a foreword for the book. A spokesman for Apple declined to comment.

The book's title, "iWoz," invites comparison with Jobs, who has sometimes called himself iCEO since his returned to Apple as interim CEO in 1997.

Wozniak, a bear of a man at 55, retains the innocence of the computer nerd who in 1975 was too shy to talk at computer club meetings and who was happy to share his designs for the early Apple with its members.

In fact, he never seemed to aspire to massive wealth. Along the way, he has taught at a public school and spent millions of dollars of his own money to fund rock concerts. And he sold stock cheaply to other Apple engineers before the company's successful initial public offering in 1980 so that they could share in the wealth.

From his experience, he advises today's would-be inventors to avoid big, structured companies, where there is less leeway to turn clever ideas into revolutionary new products.

"Yes, a person who is technical, a little bit nerdy, not so social, can just do some common-sense things and have it work out great," he said.

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every good apple fanboi (and girl) knows that the woz is the superior steve. i must point you toward http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0168122/.
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Pfft. And I must point you toward http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0115398/

It's superior in every way!
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Syenye wrote:every good apple fanboi (and girl) knows that the woz is the superior steve. i must point you toward http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0168122/.
I love that TV movie. I have it saved on my hard drive and watch it every now and then. Whether you hate Bill or Jobs, the early years of Apple and Microsoft are a great story.

Jobs was just a marketing prick in the right place at the right time. Gates was a talented computer prick in the right place at the right time, and Woz was computer geekness in its pure form. True, Apple wouldnt have gotten where it is without a marketing person in the early days as Wozniak didn't have those kind of skills but someone other than Jobs with a hint of computer knowledge to go along with his ability to market may have given Apple the foresight to not make everything proprietary and get stomped by Microsoft.

It will be interesting to see how Zune vs iPod plays out.

Someone dredge this thread up in two years. My call is that by then ~Nov 2008, Microsoft will have a significant chunk (30% or higher and continuing to grow) of the MP3 portable player market starting from Zero percent in Nov 2006.
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Sylvus wrote:Pfft. And I must point you toward http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0115398/

It's superior in every way!
awesome... i added it to my netflix queue.
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Yeah, the only thing Jobs ever did was completely turn around the company and put them back on the map.

Hating on Jobs is retarded.
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noel wrote:Yeah, the only thing Jobs ever did was completely turn around the company and put them back on the map.

Hating on Jobs is retarded.
Apple needed turing around because he destroyed the company before he was fired by Apple.

Give him time and he'll do the same again.
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But he also completely turned around the company. They went through like 5 CEOs before they finally appointed him as an interim CEO (while he was the CEO for Pixar - now a household name) and then made full CEO.
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jobs is also responsible for OS X. Apple purchased NeXTStep (and effectively jobs himself) from his company NeXT, and NeXTStep pretty much became OS X.
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He was the person most responsible for my hatred of all things Apple. Instead of just ending the Apple 2 line and saying "We're going with the Mac" they continuted to produce machines that NOBODY was writing code for. All because Jobs thought that splitting the company in half and trying to make them compete against each other was a good idea.

I spent a couple years worth of birthday cash on a 2GS in 8th grade, and by the end of my freshman year of high school, there were no more apps being written for it. Stung by that incident, my mother refused to allow me to buy ANY OTHER COMPUTER. I was relegated to the computer labs at college, while all the other geeks had their own. The horror.

In closing, fuck Apple, and fuck Steve Jobs.
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Who's your daddy? Steve took Apple into the shitter and Gates bailed him out.

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While Gates is off spending his fortune to improve the world, Microsoft will still school Apple once again, this time in the MP3 portable market.
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There isn't a snowball's chance in hell that the Zune will encroach on the iPod's market share.

Actually, I take that back. If MS uses their brilliant IE marketing strategy on the Zune... i.e. give it away for free, then they have a chance.
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noel wrote:There isn't a snowball's chance in hell that the Zune will encroach on the iPod's market share.
I'd take a bet on that if you offered.

While I've demonstrated that iPod is the inferior product to the Zen Vision already, in the case of Apple, they are currently the "Microsoft" of MP3 players and their "fad" type commercials are growing old. You've already got a solid Microsoft vs Apple feud going on and Microsoft's user base if much larger than Apple's. Microsoft is going to be offering a superior product with more open sources than Apple's. Right off the bat, you'll get the Windows crowd switching to Zune for it's compatibility and features compared to the glossy, no featured, iTune locked iPods.

If the Zen Vision would have had Microsoft's brand name and marketing power behind it, we'd already be seeing Apple's decline in market share.

Apple's brilliant commercials for the new iPods? Instead of headphone cords flying around the screen, they have neon streaks making patterns all over the screen. Woo. Awesome.

The same guy that's behind the X-Box 360 is behind the Zune (J Allard). He'll do a good job.

Unfortunately, Creative may take the biggest hit but should be praised for offering a better sounding, looking, featured , open sourced product than Apple's for the past year.
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I don't think that open-sourced is necessarily a good thing for a consumer electronic device. Most people are really stupid. The single interface for everything music that iTunes delivers is perfect for them, because it prevents morons from fucking up their own shit.
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masteen wrote:I don't think that open-sourced is necessarily a good thing for a consumer electronic device. Most people are really stupid. The single interface for everything music that iTunes delivers is perfect for them, because it prevents morons from fucking up their own shit.
I'm sure Microsoft's service will be similar to iTunes in that respect for "morons", the player will just be more flexible for those that know how to use other formats and not require conversion of everything.
"What we tried to do is recognize that consumers have a lot of files that might not be WMA. They have MP3 or AACs because they may have ripped CDs into those files. We want to make it easy for them to bring them into the Zune, if they have the rights. And we just import them as AAC (or MP3) files. They don't change. We are supporting all those different formats and codecs," Gentes said.
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The new Nanos are marked improvements over their predecessors in size, capacity, durability and battery life.

Given that most people that own iPod's like them, there's not much more needed than neon streaks and music with people dancing to sell an improvement on an already spectacular product. The Zen, Zune, Video iPod and Bigger sized high capacity iPod's are all far too big for them to be useful to me, so I could care less.
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noel wrote:The new Nanos are marked improvements over their predecessors in size, capacity, durability and battery life.

Given that most people that own iPod's like them, there's not much more needed than neon streaks and music with people dancing to sell an improvement on an already spectacular product. The Zen, Zune, Video iPod and Bigger sized high capacity iPod's are all far too big for them to be useful to me, so I could care less.
This is just the first Zune player. There will be various models eventually along with a phone version which I'm sure will integrate well with Microsoft's Live Messenger communication app which ties together the PC, 360 and mobile products.
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