Steve Irwin dead.
Steve Irwin dead.
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How in the hell do you get stabbed in the chest by a stingray? Must have been trying to stick his thumb up its bum...
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Considering what I've seen him do on his show the few times I've viewed it, you're probably right.masteen wrote:How in the hell do you get stabbed in the chest by a stingray? Must have been trying to stick his thumb up its bum...
Can this really be classified as an accident? He probably provoked he hell out of the stingray. I'd like to hear the stingray's side of the story.
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http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Cro ... 51588.htmlSteve Irwin probably died instantly when his chest was pierced by a stingray's barb, the producer of the documentary he was making said.
John Stainton, who has worked as a director and producer on a number of Irwin's film and television projects since 1996, said it was unlikely he had felt any pain.
He said he had gone "over the top of a stingray and a stingray's barb went up and went into his chest and put a hole into his heart".
Mr Stainton said Irwin had been rushed back to his research vessel but had not regained consciousness despite desperate attempts to revive him.
"We got him back within a couple of minutes to Croc One, which is his research vessel," Mr Stainton told reporters.
"We tried to quickly trip back to Low Isle where we were going to meet the emergency rescue people to do immediate and constant CPR, try and resuscitate him back into life.
"When we got there it was probably 10 to 12, and by 12 o'clock when the emergency crew arrived they pronounced him dead.
"It's likely that he possibly died instantly when the barb hit him, and I don't think that he ... felt any pain."
Mr Stainton said Irwin had been filming for his daughter Bindi.
"We were in the Cairns, Port Douglas area shooting a documentary for Animal Planet called Ocean's Deadliest, which was basically looking at things that can kill you in the sea," he said.
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Doesn't sound like he was provoking this one, just at the wrong place at the wrong time.Taking time off from the main project, Mr Irwin was swimming in shallow water, snorkelling as his cameraman filmed large bull rays.
"He came over the top of a stingray and the stingray's barb went up and went into his chest and put a hole into his heart," said Mr Irwin's friend and manager John Stainton.
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He did some good stuff. He also did some crazy things.

Not sure you should involve your baby in your stunts.

Anyways, his HD shows were great to look at although I didn't care for the times he made the show more important than emergencies like when a kid had snake venom sprayed in his eyes. Irwin seemed more interested in getting good shots of himself in the car, sort of like a reporter wanting an exclusive and paying more attention to the video than the emergency, explaining how the boy must be in real pain instead of focusing on getting to the hospital.
I guess we can attribute it to people these days wanting more shock TV instead of the Jacques Cousteau type documentaries.

Not sure you should involve your baby in your stunts.

Anyways, his HD shows were great to look at although I didn't care for the times he made the show more important than emergencies like when a kid had snake venom sprayed in his eyes. Irwin seemed more interested in getting good shots of himself in the car, sort of like a reporter wanting an exclusive and paying more attention to the video than the emergency, explaining how the boy must be in real pain instead of focusing on getting to the hospital.
I guess we can attribute it to people these days wanting more shock TV instead of the Jacques Cousteau type documentaries.
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I looked up some pictures of the rays he was swimming with, and they're like 3 times as big as any I've ever seen. Crikey is right.
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Wasn't a big fan of the man really. What he did was good press (for him for the most part) but did very little for biology/conservation. He seemed to constantly reinforce how deadly this or that animal was...which reinforces the negative image a lot of folks have for them. His shows were a great model for how not to interact with nature.
Of course he probably turned a few kids on to biology, and he did hit some important points lightly on occasion. Damn shame for his wife and kid(s).
As regards to getting killed by a stingray...dunno htf he managed that...my guess is he was grabbing them from behind trying to ride them...they are incredibly docile critters...until they are cornered by perceived predators...
Of course he probably turned a few kids on to biology, and he did hit some important points lightly on occasion. Damn shame for his wife and kid(s).
As regards to getting killed by a stingray...dunno htf he managed that...my guess is he was grabbing them from behind trying to ride them...they are incredibly docile critters...until they are cornered by perceived predators...
All rays tend to be docile, as they prefer flight to fight. If a stingray feels provoked or in danger of death they will lash out with the barb on their tail while fleeing. It is possible that he didn't see the ray hiding in the sand and he approached it in what could be concieved as a threatening manner. Without knowing the whole story (or seeing a video, at least) I can only speculate as to the circumstances. Hell, maybe it was an elaborate Aussie mob slaying...kyoukan wrote:I thought manta rays were docile and stingrays were aggresive
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"He pulled it out and the next minute he's gone. The cameraman had to shut down," he said.
"The strongly serrated barb is capable of tearing and rendering flesh," said Dr Bryan Fry, deputy director of the Australian Venom Research Unit.
"It's not the going in that causes the damage, it's the coming out where those deep serrations kind of pull on the flesh, and you end up with a very jagged tear which is quite a pronounced injury," Fry said.
Apparently he was concious until shortly after he removed the stinger... I guess he was trying to prevent the venom from getting into him.. but still... If i have a serrated object stuck in me ANYWHERE, especially my heart.. Im not gonna let anything touch that shit until I'm in a hospital.
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""He and the underwater cameraman went out to do some pieces on the reef and coral and stuff good for the kids' show and, unfortunately, he came out over the top of a stingray that was buried in the sand and the barb went up and hit him in the chest.""
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/ ... 61,00.html
"Police who have watched footage today said Irwin had in no way indimidated the stingray during filming of a nature documentary."
It sounds like a total freak accident. Sting Rays are normally very docile, but people are advised to not swim over them, because of this reaction that can happen. I think that Steve was smart enough and knew enough about animals that if he were provoking it in any way, he wouldn't be hovering his heart over the barb.
I think that he was a man who really loved animals and working with them . And he was able to do it in a way that entertained millions, and probably got many kids interested in animals and biology. His passing is very tragic and I feel bad for his wife and two young children.
""He and the underwater cameraman went out to do some pieces on the reef and coral and stuff good for the kids' show and, unfortunately, he came out over the top of a stingray that was buried in the sand and the barb went up and hit him in the chest.""
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/ ... 61,00.html
"Police who have watched footage today said Irwin had in no way indimidated the stingray during filming of a nature documentary."
It sounds like a total freak accident. Sting Rays are normally very docile, but people are advised to not swim over them, because of this reaction that can happen. I think that Steve was smart enough and knew enough about animals that if he were provoking it in any way, he wouldn't be hovering his heart over the barb.
I think that he was a man who really loved animals and working with them . And he was able to do it in a way that entertained millions, and probably got many kids interested in animals and biology. His passing is very tragic and I feel bad for his wife and two young children.
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I'm with Arb on this. Wasn't a big fan and more often thought he was being stupid/encouraging stupidity by demonstrating a how person can provoke an animal and survive intact. That he was killed by surprising an animal vs outright provoking it seems a little ironic but not really.
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In no way intended to...teh police wrote:Irwin had in no way indimidated the stingray during filming of a nature documentary.
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People hand feed wild stingrays all the time. He must have just been right over it and it spooked. They have powerful tails but damn through the sternum. I have never heard of a death caused directly by a stingray though I suppose some folks have died from anaphylatic shock from the venom. The odds must be infinitesimal.
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I heard something on the radio this morning that there are usually 1-2 deaths by stingray per year. Granted, it was not a nature program and is likely unsubstantiated.Arborealus wrote:I have never heard of a death caused directly by a stingray though I suppose some folks have died from anaphylatic shock from the venom. The odds must be infinitesimal.
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I wonder if that is counting deaths due to secondary infections?Sylvus wrote:I heard something on the radio this morning that there are usually 1-2 deaths by stingray per year. Granted, it was not a nature program and is likely unsubstantiated.Arborealus wrote:I have never heard of a death caused directly by a stingray though I suppose some folks have died from anaphylatic shock from the venom. The odds must be infinitesimal.
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Stingrays found dead after Crocodile Hunter death
By MERAIAH FOLEY
Associated Press
SYDNEY, Australia -- At least 10 stingrays have been killed since Crocodile Hunter Steve Irwin was fatally injured by one of the fish, an official said today, prompting a spokesman for the late TV star's animal charity to urge people not take revenge on the animals.
Irwin died last week after a stingray barb pierced his chest as he recorded a show off the Great Barrier Reef.
Stingray bodies since have been discovered on two beaches in Queensland state on Australia's eastern coast. Two were discovered today with their tails lopped off, state fisheries department official Wayne Sumpton said.
Sumpton said fishermen who inadvertently catch the diamond-shaped rays sometimes cut off their tails to avoid being stung, but the practice was uncommon. Stingrays often are caught in fishing nets by mistake and should be returned to the sea, Sumpton said.
Michael Hornby, the executive director of Irwin's Wildlife Warriors conservation group, said he was concerned the rays were being hunted and killed in retaliation for Irwin's death.
"It may be some sort of retribution, or it may be fear from certain individuals, or it just may be yet another callous act toward wildlife," he said.
He said killing stingrays was "not what Steve was about."
"We are disgusted and disappointed that people would take this sort of action to hurt wildlife," he said.
Stingrays are usually shy, unobtrusive fish that rummage the sea bottom for food or burrow into the sand.
They have a serrated spine up to 10 inches long on their tails, which they can lash when stepped on or otherwise frightened.
The spines emit toxins that can kill many small creatures and cause excruciating pain in humans. Few people have died from the poison, but the spines can badly tear flesh and the wounds are prone to infections, including tetanus.
Hornby said people should treat stingrays with caution, but "there is still no need to ... kill or mutilate these important animals."
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