LA Times wrote:Among the substantiated cases in the archive:
• Seven massacres from 1967 through 1971 in which at least 137 civilians died.
• Seventy-eight other attacks on noncombatants in which at least 57 were killed, 56 wounded and 15 sexually assaulted.
• One hundred forty-one instances in which U.S. soldiers tortured civilian detainees or prisoners of war with fists, sticks, bats, water or electric shock.
Investigators determined that evidence against 203 soldiers accused of harming Vietnamese civilians or prisoners was strong enough to warrant formal charges. These "founded" cases were referred to the soldiers' superiors for action.
Ultimately, 57 of them were court-martialed and just 23 convicted, the records show.
Fourteen received prison sentences ranging from six months to 20 years, but most won significant reductions on appeal. The stiffest sentence went to a military intelligence interrogator convicted of committing indecent acts on a 13-year-old girl in an interrogation hut in 1967.
He served seven months of a 20-year term, the records show.
IT'S HARD TO PUT YOUR FINGER ON IT; SOMETHING IS WRONG
I'M LIKE THE UNCLE WHO HUGGED YOU A LITTLE TOO LONG
I've seen the horror. Horrors that you've seen. But you have no right to call me a murderer. You have no right to call me a murderer. You have a right to kill me. You have a right to do that, but you have no right to judge me . It's impossible for words to describe what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror. Horror has a face, and you must make a friend of horror. Horror and mortal terror are your friends. If they are not, then they are enemies t o be feared. They are truly enemies.
I remember when I was with Special Forces--it seems a thousand centuries ago--we went into a camp to inoculate it. The children. We left the camp after we had inoculated the children for polio, and this old man came running after us, and he was crying. He couldn't see. We went there, and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile--a pile of little arms. And I remember...I...I...I cried, I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out, I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it, I never want to forget. And then I realized--like I was shot...like I was shot with a diamond...a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought, "My God, the genius of that, the genius, the will to do that." Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they could stand that--these were not monsters, these were men, trained cadres, these men who fought with their hearts, who have families, who have children, who are filled wi th love--that they had this strength, the strength to do that. If I had ten divisions of those men, then our troubles here would be over very quickly. You have to have men who are moral and at the same time were able to utilize their primordial i nstincts to kill without feeling, without passion, without judgment--without judgment. Because it's judgment that defeats us.
I worry that my son might not understand what I've tried to be, and if I were to be killed, Willard, I would want someone to go to my home and tell my son everything. Everything I did, everything you saw, because there's nothing that I detest more than t he stench of lies. And if you understand me, Willard, you...you will do this for me.
I TOLD YOU ID SHOOT! BUT YOU DIDNT BELIEVE ME! WHY DIDNT YOU BELIEVE ME?
It's really nice of the LA Times to spend so much time and money to research and then have a committed anti-war activist write the story. Yes sir, agenda journalism at it's finest! I'm certainly proud of the LA Times.
Why should I trust a liberal rag like the LA Times when there are countless neoconservative bloggers with absolutely no agenda providing me with a constant flow of unprocessed truth 24 hours a day?
kyoukan wrote:Why should I trust a liberal rag like the LA Times when there are countless neoconservative bloggers with absolutely no agenda providing me with a constant flow of unprocessed truth 24 hours a day?
I'm impressed with the power of your observation. You are absolutely correct to infer the LAT is no better than "countless" blogs. It appears that many of their paying customers are learning this also. These customers are deciding it's not worth paying for what they can get on the internet that is free and arguably of better quality.
kyoukan wrote:wow, it's almost like every other newspaper that has consistantly trended down since most people started getting their news from the internet.
Few have trended downward quite as precipitously as the LAT. Some such as USA Today have actually managed to hold their own.
But I will agree the news print media has been damaged by the internet.
However, you have to admit it's really good marketing on the part of the newspapers to target an audience that really doesn't care about newspapers. I'm sure the Tribune Cos are laughing all the way to the bank. I know their shareholders are.
kyoukan wrote:wow, it's almost like every other newspaper that has consistantly trended down since most people started getting their news from the internet.
Few have trended downward quite as precipitously as the LAT. Some such as USA Today have actually managed to hold their own.
But I will agree the news print media has been damaged by the internet.
However, you have to admit it's really good marketing on the part of the newspapers to target an audience that really doesn't care about newspapers. I'm sure the Tribune Cos are laughing all the way to the bank. I know their shareholders are.
And yet, whoever made that graph felt the need to wildly skew the Y-axis by putting in a baseline of 8% rather than 0.
Ohh, right, it was yet another worthless blogger because Metanis gets all his knowledge from what could best be described as heavily armed knitting-circles and shit he read on the back of laffy taffy wrappers.
May 2003 - "Mission Accomplished"
June 2005 - "The mission isn't easy, and it will not be accomplished overnight"
-- G W Bush, freelance writer for The Daily Show.
kyoukan wrote:wow, it's almost like every other newspaper that has consistantly trended down since most people started getting their news from the internet.
kyoukan wrote:wow, it's almost like every other newspaper that has consistantly trended down since most people started getting their news from the internet.
Few have trended downward quite as precipitously as the LAT. Some such as USA Today have actually managed to hold their own.
But I will agree the news print media has been damaged by the internet.
However, you have to admit it's really good marketing on the part of the newspapers to target an audience that really doesn't care about newspapers. I'm sure the Tribune Cos are laughing all the way to the bank. I know their shareholders are.
And yet, whoever made that graph felt the need to wildly skew the Y-axis by putting in a baseline of 8% rather than 0.
Ohh, right, it was yet another worthless blogger because Metanis gets all his knowledge from what could best be described as heavily armed knitting-circles and shit he read on the back of laffy taffy wrappers.
So fucking what its still in a downward trend you twit, At least the canadian cunt had the right answer.
Cartalas wrote:
So fucking what its still in a downward trend you twit, At least the canadian cunt had the right answer.
So then correct the axies so that the downward trend is shown as it should be; very nearly flat from 1970 to 1990, then a drop of about 1/3 of their audience in 15 years of the internet making print less and less useful.
That graph makes it look like they've lost about 85% of their readers, not 30. Hence it's a massive exaggeration and makes certain fucktards think they have a stronger case than they actually do.
May 2003 - "Mission Accomplished"
June 2005 - "The mission isn't easy, and it will not be accomplished overnight"
-- G W Bush, freelance writer for The Daily Show.
May 2003 - "Mission Accomplished"
June 2005 - "The mission isn't easy, and it will not be accomplished overnight"
-- G W Bush, freelance writer for The Daily Show.
May 2003 - "Mission Accomplished"
June 2005 - "The mission isn't easy, and it will not be accomplished overnight"
-- G W Bush, freelance writer for The Daily Show.
