Over "kill"?

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » August 2, 2006, 12:36 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... index.html

Chinese county culls 50,000 dogs

Tuesday, August 1, 2006; Posted: 12:36 a.m. EDT (04:36 GMT)

SHANGHAI, China (AP) -- A county in southwestern China has killed as many as 50,000 dogs in a government-ordered campaign following the deaths of three local people from rabies, official media reported on Tuesday.

The five-day massacre in Yunnan province's Mouding county spared only military guard dogs and police canine units, the Shanghai Daily reported, citing local media.

Dogs being walked were taken from their owners and beaten to death on the spot, it said. Other killing teams entered villages at night creating noise to get dogs barking, then homing in on their prey.

About 360 of the county's 200,000 residents suffered dog bites this year, with three reported deaths, including a 4-year-old girl, the report said.

"With the aim to keep this horrible disease from people, we decided to kill the dogs," Li Haibo, a spokesman for the county government was quoted as saying by the official Xinhua News Agency.

Calls to county government offices rang unanswered on Tuesday.

China has suffered a major rise in the number of rabies cases in recent years, with 2,651 reported deaths from the disease in 2004, the last year for which data was available, according to the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention.

Experts have tied the rise in cases in part to a major increase in dog ownership, particularly in rural areas where about 70 percent of households keep dogs. However, rates of rabies vaccination remain extremely low at only about 3 percent, according to the center.

Not that I care more for dogs than I do for human lives, but this would be horrible to experience. My dog is a part of the family. She is a companion rather than "just" a pet.

Sargeras · Post by **Sargeras** » August 2, 2006, 12:52 pm

Do they not have a system for registering and vaccination of dogs there?

If someone came into my house looking to beat up my dog for no reason. I'd beat them up while my dog ripped them a new asshole.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » August 2, 2006, 12:53 pm

Sargeras wrote:Do they not have a system for registering and vaccination of dogs there?

If someone came into my house looking to beat up my dog for no reason. I'd beat them up while my dog ripped them a new asshole.

It is China we talk about. So the simple answer to the first part is: No. The simple answer to the last part is: They would have shot you.

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » August 2, 2006, 1:01 pm

Well said Kel!

miir · Post by **miir** » August 2, 2006, 1:05 pm

In places like that, dogs, even ones kept as pets are borderline feral.... and I doubt very many of the culled dogs were actually being kept as pets.

Post by **Sylvus** » August 2, 2006, 2:45 pm

Not to mention that the Chinese cull people to some degree. It's a bit of a different culture over there.

Unless the "news" reports I've read about the mobile execution units and female infanticide that's practiced over there are untrue.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » August 2, 2006, 2:47 pm

miir wrote:In places like that, dogs, even ones kept as pets are borderline feral.... and I doubt very many of the culled dogs were actually being kept as pets.

but the part below is what I was mainly referring to...

Dogs being walked were taken from their owners and beaten to death on the spot, it said.

Most people don't walk a feral dog.

Moonwynd · Post by **Moonwynd** » August 2, 2006, 5:22 pm

Morgrym · Post by **Morgrym** » August 2, 2006, 5:38 pm

There is obviously a meat shortage and the whole "first born son" thing is so old school.

cid · Post by **cid** » August 2, 2006, 6:43 pm

They do not get the Price is Right in China? Bet Bob Barker is going to go Happy Gillmore on them!!

Spang · Post by **Spang** » August 2, 2006, 6:48 pm

well, they are controlling the pet population...

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » August 2, 2006, 7:05 pm

I'm not sure I see the story here. Every culture has it's own way of doing things. What we feel is right and what they feel is right are different. If they were killing people it would be different. It's just an animal. No different than the whole Japan whale killing story someone posted a year ago or so. None of our business.

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » August 2, 2006, 8:51 pm

anyone who argues with midnyte is not seeing the big picture in advance

redeemed · Post by **redeemed** » August 2, 2006, 9:16 pm

*~*stragi*~* wrote:anyone who argues with midnyte is not seeing the big picture in advance

lol .. well I'd argue.. it may be "just an animal" but to take people's beloved pets from them while they're walking them on the street and then beat them (the dogs - clarification for the retards) to death in front of them (the owners) is pretty fucked up, if you disagree you've never owned a dog, or you hate animals, or you just suck at life!

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » August 2, 2006, 11:02 pm

China has a rule... no pets... over time people said screw you and got pets... noone set up a way to see that these animals get vaccinated... rabies breaks out (to the degree of thousands dying) and china says... remember that rule about no pets... *WHACK*... as much as it is unnecessary with a simple vaccination program, given the situation it was probably the easy answer, and in rural 3rd world the easy answer is always the answer

Kelgar · Post by **Kelgar** » August 3, 2006, 5:12 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I'm not sure I see the story here. Every culture has it's own way of doing things. What we feel is right and what they feel is right are different. If they were killing people it would be different. It's just an animal. No different than the whole Japan whale killing story someone posted a year ago or so. None of our business.

Not all animals are created equal. Of course, one couldn't expect you to be able to draw any differences between dogs and a mammal widely considered at least the 3rd smartest behind humans and chimps.

Kelgar · Post by **Kelgar** » August 3, 2006, 5:14 am

Besides, Chinese and Koreans

eating dog. That they'd have no problem culling large populations of them like they are forced to do with chickens and ducks (H5N1) is not surprising.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » August 3, 2006, 9:06 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I'm not sure I see the story here. Every culture has it's own way of doing things. What we feel is right and what they feel is right are different. If they were killing people it would be different. It's just an animal. No different than the whole Japan whale killing story someone posted a year ago or so. None of our business.

Of course if you saw the bigger picture you would understand that Japan is actually in danger of eradicating certain whale species. Stop being so narrow minded!

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » August 3, 2006, 10:32 am

Kelshara wrote:Of course if you saw the bigger picture you would understand that Japan is actually in danger of eradicating certain whale species. Stop being so sparrow minded!

That's how I read this through sleepy morning-eyes.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » August 3, 2006, 10:42 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I'm not sure I see the story here. Every culture has it's own way of doing things. What we feel is right and what they feel is right are different. If they were killing people it would be different. It's just an animal. No different than the whole Japan whale killing story someone posted a year ago or so. None of our business.

And yet the whole Saddam killing Kurdish people is your business, but Hutus killing Tutsis wasn't. I think this Big Picture is drawn on the back of a Haliburton annual report!

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » August 3, 2006, 11:39 am

the big picture is whatever retarded talking head on fox news tells him what the big picture is.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » August 3, 2006, 11:42 am

Zaelath wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I'm not sure I see the story here. Every culture has it's own way of doing things. What we feel is right and what they feel is right are different. If they were killing people it would be different. It's just an animal. No different than the whole Japan whale killing story someone posted a year ago or so. None of our business.
And yet the whole Saddam killing Kurdish people is your business, but Hutus killing Tutsis wasn't. I think this Big Picture is drawn on the back of a Haliburton annual report!

sINCE YOU ASKED ME SO NICELY. yES, i FEEL BOTH ARE EQUALLY IMPORTANT.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » August 3, 2006, 11:43 am

kyoukan wrote:the big picture is whatever retarded talking head on fox news tells him what the big picture is.

Sorry to disapoint you sweetie, but I don't watch FoxNews or any other news show for that matter.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » August 3, 2006, 11:47 am

Those wacky Chinese.

currently, china doesn't have laws against Animal Cruelty. I've done a bit of Googling and there is a movement to have said laws enacted but it isn't in place now.
What happened to those dogs, albeit senseless, wasn't illegal. It may however hasten the passing of animal cruelty laws in by the Chinese government.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » August 3, 2006, 12:13 pm

One of the things that gets me is that they only targetted dogs. Rabies can be carried by many critters. Sure, the dog-bite is what exposed it, but where did the dog get it?

Kelgar · Post by **Kelgar** » August 3, 2006, 12:45 pm

Because going around shooting squirrels and various other wild animals would be far less practical to do?

miir · Post by **miir** » August 3, 2006, 2:32 pm

And yet the whole Saddam killing Kurdish people is your business

BUT THEY WERE HIS OWN PEOPLE11!!!!!!

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » August 3, 2006, 2:58 pm

Kelgar wrote:Because going around shooting squirrels and various other wild animals would be far less practical to do?

Two Wrongs dont make a right!!

And isint this the same community that thought killing the gator,( and im not talking about the one that was killed Texas style), was such a horrable thing?