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CNN.com wrote:Teenagers 'bagging' mothballs to get high
Practice of inhaling, chewing, is probably underreported, journal says

Thursday, July 27, 2006; Posted: 1:55 p.m. EDT (17:55 GMT)

BOSTON, Massachusetts (Reuters) -- The 18-year-old French woman was hospitalized with scaly skin on her legs and hands, appearing unsteady and mentally sluggish, doctors said.

They found the condition puzzling, especially since the woman's twin sister displayed similar, but less severe, symptoms and there was no family history of the problem, the doctors reported in this week's New England Journal of Medicine that

Several days later, doctors discovered the cause: a bag of mothballs stashed in her hospital room.

The teenagers had been using the mothballs to get high, inhaling air from the bag for about 10 minutes a day because classmates had recommended it. The sicker of the young women also had been chewing half a mothball a day for two months.

The doctors described the high as "dangerous" and most likely under-reported in medical literature.

The teenager told the doctors that she continued to use the mothballs during her hospitalization "because she thought her symptoms were not related to her habit," said Lionel Feuillet at the Hospital of Timone in Marseille, France.

Mothballs, used to prevent moth larva from getting into clothing, contain paradichlorobenzene, a substance also found in air fresheners and insect repellents that can cause liver and kidney failure, and severe anemia.

The discovery comes at a time when teenagers are increasingly experimenting with legal drugs such as OxyContin, widely known as "hillbilly heroin," and Vicodin, often bought online or taken from medicine cabinets, even before trying marijuana or alcohol, health officials say.

The sicker of the women took six months to recover fully. Her twin, who had only been "bagging" for a few weeks, recovered after three months.

Feuillet told Reuters that a cleaning lady discovered the mothballs in the drawer of the patient's night table.

When the woman was asked what she was doing with the bag, "she showed us how she used to breathe directly into the mothballs bag," Feuillet said.

Although only three cases of getting high with paradichlorobenzene have been reported in medical literature, "since young people usually deny practicing self-intoxication, the incidence of this type of recreational activity is probably underestimated," Feuillet and his colleagues said in the Journal.
That's totally insane. Several years ago, I used to know a couple people who would huff that compressed-gas keyboard cleaner stuff, and when I'd see them do it and they'd ask if I wanted to try it I'd always say "Nah, I'm just going to go snort some mothballs." I didn't know people actually did that, that's messed up.

If any of you reading this are impressionable youths, stick to alcohol and/or marijuana!
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What kind of high does inhaling mothball fumes give you? Bob Marley type? Scarface type? Jim Morrison type?

Someone try it out and report back!
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I wonder how she explained the "scaly skin"

"Oh, I'm half Iksar."

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Or we could hunt down some of the Greenade marijuana bubble gum shown in one of the videos on CNN.com.
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When I was a kid I always told myself I wouldn't turn into one of those adults that looked at kids and put them down.. but..

What the fuck is wrong with kids today?

Seriously.
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I work with "at risk" teens and nothing like this could surprise me.. it's very sad what lengths some kids will go to to get a buzz

oh, and I think this would be a great scenario for a House episode :D
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Siji wrote:When I was a kid I always told myself I wouldn't turn into one of those adults that looked at kids and put them down.. but..

What the fuck is wrong with kids today?

Seriously.
You really want to know what is wrong with kids? Its the break down of the family unit its parents like 90% of the posters on VV. You fuckstains offer no sense of accountabilty, you come up with some lame ass excuse everytime someone does something wrong.

I.E. Poor girl was mental thats why she killed her kids, God forbid she was told to take her meds.

Its ok little Betty have sex, there is always a vacumm cleaner around to clean up the mistake.

Its ok Bobby that you robbed that store,you were raised in a desolete neighborhood with no education, You never had the same chances as Whitey.


Stop making excuses
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BUT WE'RE WINNING THE WAR ON DRUGS!!!
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i do this, but only to fend off the savage moth invader.
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Nitrous hits FTW.
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cadalano wrote:i do this, but only to fend off the savage moth invader.
MOTHRA?!
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Cartalas wrote:
Siji wrote:When I was a kid I always told myself I wouldn't turn into one of those adults that looked at kids and put them down.. but..

What the fuck is wrong with kids today?

Seriously.
You really want to know what is wrong with kids? Its the break down of the family unit its parents like 90% of the posters on VV. You fuckstains offer no sense of accountabilty, you come up with some lame ass excuse everytime someone does something wrong.

I.E. Poor girl was mental thats why she killed her kids, God forbid she was told to take her meds.

Its ok little Betty have sex, there is always a vacumm cleaner around to clean up the mistake.

Its ok Bobby that you robbed that store,you were raised in a desolete neighborhood with no education, You never had the same chances as Whitey.


Stop making excuses
People don't want to hear the truth.
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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote: People don't want to hear the truth.
Yeah, like you don't want to hear that your 3 hours on the road commuting per day so you don't have to move your kids out of school is actually detrimental to their development because they don't have you around for a (shudder) role-model

Like the right, don't want to hear that your grab for the almighty dollar has left us in a situation where most families require two incomes to live "comfortably" so the kids are unsupervised for long periods of time every day.

And again, the cult of no personal responsibility is not an invention of the left, fucking hillbillies.
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OMG, what an original and witty rejoinder.

Here's one you can use later, "Fuck you, asshole". I know, I stole it from The Terminator, but it's still fresh!
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Cartalas wrote:You really want to know what is wrong with kids? Its the break down of the family unit its parents
Right.. because of course, people that don't want to be parents would make much better parents if abortion was illegal. Why, that would solve everything!
Cartalas wrote:You fuckstains offer no sense of accountabilty, you come up with some lame ass excuse everytime someone does something wrong.
This coming from a Bush supporter?

/point

/laugh unfuckingcontrollably.

You really are about as stupid and pathetic as Midnyte.
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You guys know he is just regurgitating what he's seen on fox news commentaries and has no real original thoughts of his own, right?

you're basically trying to rationalize with a tape recording of hannity soapboxing. just call him names.
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honestly, the actions can be traced back to the fact that kids today grow up without a sense of accountability for their actions.

"time out" is a fuckin joke.

kids without a sense of fear and knowing that their actions should elicit some sort of punishment will always choose whatever is easiest and most pleasure fulfilling at the time.

The parents have chosen to go the easy route of trying to push the responsibility back onto the kids instead of forcing a rule.

seriously, who here didn't get a good ass whipping as a kid?
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yeah, you are totally right. "in my day" no kids did anything wrong, ever. that was "the good old days."

well, maybe the ones "from the wrong side of the tracks." but we used to pack up in chet's firebird that his parents bought him for being starting quarterback and go stomp those greasers straight back to their shanties.
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kyoukan wrote:yeah, you are totally right. "in my day" no kids did anything wrong, ever. that was "the good old days."

well, maybe the ones "from the wrong side of the tracks." but we used to pack up in chet's firebird that his parents bought him for being starting quarterback and go stomp those greasers straight back to their shanties.
The good old days were not perfect, but they were "better". Been through this argument before, just because society gets progressively worse, and so every generation says "The kids these days..." doesn't mean that "my generation" arguments are purely a case of selective memory.
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Dexail wrote:The parents have chosen to go the easy route of trying to push the responsibility back onto the kids instead of forcing a rule.

seriously, who here didn't get a good ass whipping as a kid?
While I agree with you, you need to keep in mind that the assinine level of political correctness in this country has caused parents to no longer have the ability to spank a child. If they do, and that child pitches a fit and calls 911 - the parents will have child services conducting an investigation every single time. I watched this happen to my ex's sister's family. One of the sons called the police after he got a spanking, told them that his dad hit him.. the police came and arrested the father without question. The stories I could tell from that friggin family.. (And no, the parents were certainly not abusive, quite the opposite)
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Zaelath wrote:The good old days were not perfect, but they were "better". Been through this argument before, just because society gets progressively worse, and so every generation says "The kids these days..." doesn't mean that "my generation" arguments are purely a case of selective memory.
I don't buy that. Statistically teenagers do less drugs than they did in the 80's and 90's. Pregnancy among teens is up but that is a direct result of the bush administration all but banning sex ed in high schools. the crime rate among youths is down from the 80s and 90s as well.

People have been blaming everything from swing dancing to grand theft auto for the downfall of society, but overall crime among teenagers it at it's lowest it has been in decades in north america.
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kyoukan wrote:
Zaelath wrote:The good old days were not perfect, but they were "better". Been through this argument before, just because society gets progressively worse, and so every generation says "The kids these days..." doesn't mean that "my generation" arguments are purely a case of selective memory.
I don't buy that. Statistically teenagers do less drugs than they did in the 80's and 90's. Pregnancy among teens is up but that is a direct result of the bush administration all but banning sex ed in high schools. the crime rate among youths is down from the 80s and 90s as well.

People have been blaming everything from swing dancing to grand theft auto for the downfall of society, but overall crime among teenagers it at it's lowest it has been in decades in north america.
Is that with or without including huffing various shit and other under-reported drug use?

Likewise with the crime, are they actually committing less crime, or do we have less cops on the beat and kids that are more aware of the laws and how to work them? Not to mention, drugs are usually within the crime stats too, so are you claiming that 'victory' twice?

I don't recall teen shootings in the 80's

I don't recall the type of "empowerment" of teenagers in the 80's that would enable them to mouth off to adults in the street without at least a 50/50 chance the adult would chase them down and kick their ass.

It's funny to hear from cops when kids here try that "you can't touch this" shit on with them here and find out just how wrong they are ><

I just can't equate less and less supervision with somehow kids spontaneously displaying Brady-like super responsible behaviour. It doesn't pass the "what's most likely?" test.
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there isn't much in the way on statistics about under reported drug use. :p
I just can't equate less and less supervision with somehow kids spontaneously displaying Brady-like super responsible behaviour. It doesn't pass the "what's most likely?" test.
I didn't say that teenagers are well behaved angels now. All I'm saying is that everything I've read about youth commiting crimes says it is down (in general) all over north america. of course teenagers will always be miserable hooligans. that is a part of how they develop socially.
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mothball huffing has to be the most retarded thing i've ever heard of aaahahha...wtf scaly skin!
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I read a similar report to whatever kyoukan read. Kids are more docile due to their time being occupied by TV and video games. It doesn't matter if the games are violent. The main point is that you don't have a bunch of teenagers sitting around bored getting into mischief.

Instead, they are playing games and inhancing their manual dexterity. Even better, if cybering becomes more accepted, they can virtually screw away the night without risk of getting pregnant so you've got kids that both are kept busy and physically away from each other, cutting down on random vandalism and pregnancies.
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kyoukan wrote:Pregnancy among teens is up but that is a direct result of the bush administration all but banning sex ed in high schools.
What a crock. I suppose you think Bush is standing there whispering in the guy's ear, "Don't pull out, it'll be ok."

And I suppose you don't think the whole welfare mentality has anything to do with teen pregnancy?

Or the constant bombardment of sexually explicit TV and movies?

You've got a culture telling these kids that sex is expected of them and it's Bush's fault because he thinks teaching abstinence is important?

Bull

Wake up once and learn some reasoning skills. The world is not all about victimhood like your loony lefty college professors whispered in your ear...
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kyoukan wrote: Statistically teenagers do less drugs than they did in the 80's and 90's. Pregnancy among teens is up. the crime rate among youths is down from the 80s and 90s as well.
I am pretty sure the first sentance is the reason for all the rest
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Metanis wrote:
kyoukan wrote:Pregnancy among teens is up but that is a direct result of the bush administration all but banning sex ed in high schools.
What a crock. I suppose you think Bush is standing there whispering in the guy's ear, "Don't pull out, it'll be ok."

And I suppose you don't think the whole welfare mentality has anything to do with teen pregnancy?

Or the constant bombardment of sexually explicit TV and movies?

You've got a culture telling these kids that sex is expected of them and it's Bush's fault because he thinks teaching abstinence is important?

Bull

Wake up once and learn some reasoning skills. The world is not all about victimhood like your loony lefty college professors whispered in your ear...
Let's test your theory on how great abstinence is; how about you abstain from posting a continuous stream of religious-right talking points and associated drivel, even though it's completely legal and you enjoy doing it.
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Zaelath wrote:
Metanis wrote:
kyoukan wrote:Pregnancy among teens is up but that is a direct result of the bush administration all but banning sex ed in high schools.
What a crock. I suppose you think Bush is standing there whispering in the guy's ear, "Don't pull out, it'll be ok."

And I suppose you don't think the whole welfare mentality has anything to do with teen pregnancy?

Or the constant bombardment of sexually explicit TV and movies?

You've got a culture telling these kids that sex is expected of them and it's Bush's fault because he thinks teaching abstinence is important?

Bull

Wake up once and learn some reasoning skills. The world is not all about victimhood like your loony lefty college professors whispered in your ear...
Let's test your theory on how great abstinence is; how about you abstain from posting a continuous stream of religious-right talking points and associated drivel, even though it's completely legal and you enjoy doing it.
You really are loony. You equate sexual gratification with posting on a message board? Your keyboard must be a mess. :(
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Metanis wrote:
Zaelath wrote: Let's test your theory on how great abstinence is; how about you abstain from posting a continuous stream of religious-right talking points and associated drivel, even though it's completely legal and you enjoy doing it.
You really are loony. You equate sexual gratification with posting on a message board? Your keyboard must be a mess. :(
Thanks for proving my point. Sexual gratification is an incredibly powerful motivator, and yet you think children can practice restraint when you couldn't avoid making yourself look like a bigger fucking idiot for more than a few hours. Oh, and the word you were looking for was "compare" not "equate", dipshit.
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Dexail wrote:seriously, who here didn't get a good ass whipping as a kid?
I didn't. Neither did any of my 6 siblings and though we may have been pains in the asses in our teenage years (as are most teenagers), we came out to be responsible, professional and law-abiding adults. When I was a kid, the worst possible punishment was having to clean for 4 hours while my sister and friends were out playing.

I taught kindergarten for 4 years and never even had an urge to spank a child - shit, I rarely found a reason to raise my voice. I think there's something to be said for child protective services looking into any complaints of child abuse though I don't agree that spanking constitutes as it. It's not my choice of discipline as I've experienced that children that did come from homes that used spanking as a disciplinary method were way more likely to be hard to control/discipline in situations (such as school) were spanking is not allowed.
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