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How long can any man fight the darkness...
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They seem to be keeping with the themes that made the first 2 movies so enjoyable to watch. They decide what trials and tribulations Peter Parker will be going through, and choose a villian(s) that best reflect the story, not the other way around 
X-Men and the new Batman/Superman are rather serious, Fantastic Four is pretty lighthearted, and there are lots of other sub-par comic movies that are just plain bad. IMO, Spiderman definately strikes an even tone between fantasy and the seriousness of a great comic book movie. Don't get me wrong, those other movies all have thier place (even the bad ones!), but the Spiderman franchise kinda stands out all on it's own for a comic book movie that would appeal to all ages, genders, and varying degrees of comic book geekiness.
The trailer looks like it will be fun.
X-Men and the new Batman/Superman are rather serious, Fantastic Four is pretty lighthearted, and there are lots of other sub-par comic movies that are just plain bad. IMO, Spiderman definately strikes an even tone between fantasy and the seriousness of a great comic book movie. Don't get me wrong, those other movies all have thier place (even the bad ones!), but the Spiderman franchise kinda stands out all on it's own for a comic book movie that would appeal to all ages, genders, and varying degrees of comic book geekiness.
The trailer looks like it will be fun.
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DD was a good movie, in my book it's close to the X movies but not better than them(well maybe better than X-Men 3).Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:DareDevil was way fucking better than any X-Men movie.
Best comic to movie adaptation was Batman. The original Batman with Michael Keaton.
The only recent Marvel movies that I really remember disliking are The Hulk and The Punisher.
I actually liked Fantastic 4 for what it was, a fun, over the top popcorn flick, so sue me.
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No. Just fucking no. Fuck Tim Burton. Fuck casting Michael Keaton in that role.Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Best comic to movie adaptation was Batman. The original Batman with Michael Keaton.
Probably the best comic adaptation was the original Superman movie. The best recent comic adaptation was Batman Begins, especially the role of Commisioner Gordon.Kevin Smith in 'An Evening With Kevin Smith' wrote:Kevin (quoting Tim Burton): "Anybody who knows me knows I would never read a comic book."
Kevin: Which to me, explains Batman.
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Daredevil ok despite Ben Affleck.Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:DareDevil was way fucking better than any X-Men movie.
Best comic to movie adaptation was Batman. The original Batman with Michael Keaton.
It was not better than any of the XMen movies.
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Are you serious?Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:DareDevil was way fucking better than any X-Men movie.
Best comic to movie adaptation was Batman. The original Batman with Michael Keaton.
Daredevil was one steaming pile of shit, horrible script and even worse casting (someone please explain to me how Ben Affleck ever became an actor, or how it was expected for Michael Clarke Duncan to play the role of a major WHITE villain spanning several comic series. No offence, but Kingpin is white).
As for Batman, true, the first one was better than the later ones, untill Batman Begins showed up. But looking at the competition after the 2 Burton Batman movies, my parents summer movie home video are better.
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Daredevil was ok but it doesn't come close to the first two X-Men movies.
The Spiderman movies are Marvel's best.
I'm hearing great things about this new Superman movie so am interested in seeing that.
FF sucked IMO. Dr Doom was horrible.
Best action scene in any hero movie was the opening sequence in X-Men 2 with Nightcrawler going nuts in the White House.
The Spiderman movies are Marvel's best.
I'm hearing great things about this new Superman movie so am interested in seeing that.
FF sucked IMO. Dr Doom was horrible.
Best action scene in any hero movie was the opening sequence in X-Men 2 with Nightcrawler going nuts in the White House.
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Affleck was the bomb in Phantoms...
I do think that Affleck does fine with Kevin Smith directing him. I believe Smith has commented in the past (I think it was the DVD extras on Dogma) that Affleck requires more direction than other actors. Specifically he was comparing Matt Damon's ability to ad-lib lines to Affleck's and the fact that they just could not let Affleck do it cause he sucked at it whereas Damon was good at it.
Tim Burton movies that are Tim Burton movies are great movies. The ones where he tries to do something that's not 'his' suck fucking ass.
I do think that Affleck does fine with Kevin Smith directing him. I believe Smith has commented in the past (I think it was the DVD extras on Dogma) that Affleck requires more direction than other actors. Specifically he was comparing Matt Damon's ability to ad-lib lines to Affleck's and the fact that they just could not let Affleck do it cause he sucked at it whereas Damon was good at it.
Tim Burton movies that are Tim Burton movies are great movies. The ones where he tries to do something that's not 'his' suck fucking ass.
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It was ok...not bad, but not great either. Except for that whole fuck up where the Joker dies after his first appearance in Gotham. Batman didn't kill people, and he didn't let criminals die either...he made sure they were around to answer for what they did. The ending ruined the whole movie for me and left a bad taste in my mouth.Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Best comic to movie adaptation was Batman. The original Batman with Michael Keaton.
Begins was a much better adaptation imo. (which makes sense with Frank fucking Miller on the production team)
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Micheal Keaton was a fucking fantastic Batman. He had the serious, brooding looks down, and was totally convincing in the cowl. His problem was that he was a horrible Bruce Wayne. I'm sorry, THAT guy is a millionaire playboy? He looks like my garbage man.
Unfortunately, the next 2 were good as Bruce Wayne (Val Kilmer and George Clooney are definitely handsome devils), but they both sucked ass as Batman.
Christian is the first who really fits both roles very well. He's super good looking, yet can handle the dark brooding that the detective is so known for. Plus he needs no hard rubber suit to look good in costume. Amazing bod on that guy.
Unfortunately, the next 2 were good as Bruce Wayne (Val Kilmer and George Clooney are definitely handsome devils), but they both sucked ass as Batman.
Christian is the first who really fits both roles very well. He's super good looking, yet can handle the dark brooding that the detective is so known for. Plus he needs no hard rubber suit to look good in costume. Amazing bod on that guy.
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You seem overly concerned about the looks and body of Batman Masteen!masteen wrote: Unfortunately, the next 2 were good as Bruce Wayne (Val Kilmer and George Clooney are definitely handsome devils), but they both sucked ass as Batman.
Christian is the first who really fits both roles very well. He's super good looking, yet can handle the dark brooding that the detective is so known for. Plus he needs no hard rubber suit to look good in costume. Amazing bod on that guy.
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I agree on Burton. I know he has a huge fanbase, but it just doesn't do it for me.noel wrote:I really just fucking hate Tim Burton. Don't mind me. I agree Keaton was great in the costume. There's just no way in hell the first Batman was the best comic book adaptation of all time or whatever Mid said.
As far as what Mid said, well, he liked Titanic.
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Back on topic (aside from a brief *gag* to Daredevil movie)....
Spiderman has been a good series so far, aside from making Peter Parker into a minimum-wage earning gutless bitch in a good 45 minutes of the second film (didn't read comics, so bear with me).
I felt the first was much better, but that has more to do with story than quality of product--and both were marvelous.
Next, Raimi is directing. Nuff said. (See X-3 if you wonder how much a director plays in film. *cry*)
I look forward to S-3 or whatever it is called. This Venom bit seems bitchin'.
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WTF Ghost Rider? Never heard of it. Why does it look so stupid? WTF Nick Cage? It is depressing to see that dude in movies these days. Stuntman turned evil demon-vigilante-via-deal-with-christian-god. Yeah, sounds like a fucking hoot!
Spiderman has been a good series so far, aside from making Peter Parker into a minimum-wage earning gutless bitch in a good 45 minutes of the second film (didn't read comics, so bear with me).
I felt the first was much better, but that has more to do with story than quality of product--and both were marvelous.
Next, Raimi is directing. Nuff said. (See X-3 if you wonder how much a director plays in film. *cry*)
I look forward to S-3 or whatever it is called. This Venom bit seems bitchin'.
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WTF Ghost Rider? Never heard of it. Why does it look so stupid? WTF Nick Cage? It is depressing to see that dude in movies these days. Stuntman turned evil demon-vigilante-via-deal-with-christian-god. Yeah, sounds like a fucking hoot!
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Actually, Ghost Rider looks really ummm... well translated? That's about the best way I can say it. I read it a bit growing up, and it was fun, but the supernatural isn't really my thing so I didn't read it for very long. It's a cool concept, and I'll probably see it in theatres... Funny thing about Marvel. They seem to want to make movies of all their comics whether or not a movie is warranted. I guess they're making money?
DC has the right idea (minus catwoman).
DC has the right idea (minus catwoman).
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Despite that [the movie will blow], I am pleased to see that the principal actor actually is a fan--adds quite a bit, IMO. My viewpoint is from the non-comic area, so it just looked like a 'Spawn' remake to me.cadalano wrote:cage is a huge comic book fan too. he actually got his stage name from comics, but i cant remember the whole story
the movie will still blow, though.
That said, I definately like the comic-related movies for the most part. I have actually been interested in checking out some books due to the kickass showings from Spidey, XMen (1,2), Sin City, etc....good stuff, even for those of us that know jackshit about the storylines.
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Well Cage wanted to be the new superman and almost was a few years ago... kind of glad he wasn't.
I actually truly enjoyed the new Superman - a must see in theaters.
Also got to see this trailer at the movie today and it looked freakin' awesome. My son tonight talked almost as much about this trailer as he did the Superman move. Me personally I thought Superman Returns was better than the last Spiderman and about equil with the first. Maybe it's because I just don't like Toby or that chick in there... but I can't wait to go see this one.
In regards to best comic to movie of all time, that is Batman Begins IMHO. As I said in another thread I think Spiderman and Superman Returns are all great. And now thinking about it the original Superman movie in 78 was awesome for the time. My mom was a comic book freak back in the 50s, she tells me that she had many of the original Superman comics and stuff that she got given to her in the 40s as a little girl... too bad my grandfather threw most of them away when she got married in the 60s
Heh while we definitely don't agree on everything we do agree on the Batman Begins and the the others close behind... for what it's worth I guess.
And no I'm not gay and never plan to be but IF I did turn gay... Christian Bale would definitely be a top priority
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I actually truly enjoyed the new Superman - a must see in theaters.
Also got to see this trailer at the movie today and it looked freakin' awesome. My son tonight talked almost as much about this trailer as he did the Superman move. Me personally I thought Superman Returns was better than the last Spiderman and about equil with the first. Maybe it's because I just don't like Toby or that chick in there... but I can't wait to go see this one.
In regards to best comic to movie of all time, that is Batman Begins IMHO. As I said in another thread I think Spiderman and Superman Returns are all great. And now thinking about it the original Superman movie in 78 was awesome for the time. My mom was a comic book freak back in the 50s, she tells me that she had many of the original Superman comics and stuff that she got given to her in the 40s as a little girl... too bad my grandfather threw most of them away when she got married in the 60s
And no I'm not gay and never plan to be but IF I did turn gay... Christian Bale would definitely be a top priority
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Looks like they're adding more action to the movie, fine by me.
defamer wrote:Warner Bros. learned the hard way this summer that when audiences line up to see a movie called Superman Returns, what they expect to see is a super man returning to do super things, not a touchy-feely supermeditation on a single mom's efforts to balance work and family. Even WB studio head Alan Horn would later admit, "We should have had perhaps a little more action to satisfy the young male crowd." The Spider-Man franchise has had better success in that department, but the third installment is leaving nothing to chance: After piling on multiple love interests and villains, James Franco recently revealed to MTV News that director Sam Raimi is bringing back the cast for reshoots:
"The next thing I'm shooting?" series star James Franco said over the weekend. "Re-shoots on 'Spider-Man.' "
Revealing that director Sam Raimi has put out the call for "more action," Franco said he's being called back to the set of the blockbuster. "Probably next month," he added.
It's a testament to just how much is on the line with these enormously budgeted studio behemoths that a competent, proven director such as Raimi would second guess his own vision, embellishing his film's once quiet and romantic "upside down kiss in the rain"-style moments with enough exploding jack-o-lanterns and morphing alien space-fabrics to ensure its "young male" core audience is never in jeopardy of growing bored enough with the proceedings to start wondering if Spider-Man is harboring a secret crush on the Sandman.
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I like Spiderman except that Tobey MacGuire is gradually reaching Leonardo DiCraprio annoyance levels and Kristen Dunst is a lousy actress.
Other than that...!
Other than that...!
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Bale does a pretty good job of making me forget about a previous role when I'm watching one of his movies. (he's a good actor)Markulas wrote:Anyone else think of Christian Bale in American Psycho when they saw Batman Begins? Bale repeatedly wore suits in both movies and had a knack with the dagger in both as well.
So far his best movie was Equilibrium IMO.
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the only thing I think of when I see Christian Bale is:Markulas wrote:Anyone else think of Christian Bale in American Psycho when they saw Batman Begins? Bale repeatedly wore suits in both movies and had a knack with the dagger in both as well.
*drool*
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Bale is a terrific actor and I didnt even know until recently that he's an Englander. I am not a big fan of comic book movies in general, but he did make me like Batman Begins. I'll have to check out Equilibrium.
Tobey MacGuire on the other hand. Not so much superhero aura around him.
Tobey MacGuire on the other hand. Not so much superhero aura around him.
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Well I knew he was a Brit because I had seen him when he was a kid in Empire of the Sun, one of the better films of the 80's. He was fucking brilliant in American Psycho.
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From Spiderman 3 to ravings about Chris Bale!
Sure, Bale is a better cast (more credible) for playing a superhero than lets say Affleck or Clooney and Tobey may not look like the part, but i have found that he is perfect for Spider-man.
Spider-man never looked like Batman, Cap America etc
Although Spidey DID get a bit more bulky in the 80's, in the 90's and the present he has slimmed down to better portray a very agile and quick spiderman.
BUT
Robert Downey JR as Tony Stark (Iron Man) is a bit hilarious cast imho, sure he knows Tonys addiction but...
Nick Cage as GhostRider is just
, especially judged by the look of GhostRider in the 80's, maybe he looks different now?
Cage does NOT look like the Johnny Blaze of the 80's!
Sure, Bale is a better cast (more credible) for playing a superhero than lets say Affleck or Clooney and Tobey may not look like the part, but i have found that he is perfect for Spider-man.
Spider-man never looked like Batman, Cap America etc
Although Spidey DID get a bit more bulky in the 80's, in the 90's and the present he has slimmed down to better portray a very agile and quick spiderman.
BUT
Robert Downey JR as Tony Stark (Iron Man) is a bit hilarious cast imho, sure he knows Tonys addiction but...
Nick Cage as GhostRider is just
Cage does NOT look like the Johnny Blaze of the 80's!
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Gammatron Clerics (Bale's role in Equilibrium) have got to be the coolest badasses this side of the universe. This was the first movie I saw Bale in, and I instantly loved him. You're right about his brooding ability, he has an intuitive knack at playing characters who go through defining transformations that reinvent the person they're playing. The character starts at point A, then gradually grows to point B during the course of the film. Bale does an excellent job at showing us the gradual growth.




