Welp that should erase the Pentagon Missle Theories...

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » May 30, 2006, 1:49 am

This little piece of metal is conclusive of what?

It looks like a beat up Pepsi can to me.

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » May 30, 2006, 5:20 am

Lynks wrote:So you're saying that when the wheels are up, a 757 goes from 44 feet to 10-15 feet? How fucking big are these wheels?

Here you go Lynx... to erase any doubts:

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/757fam ... nical.html

miir · Post by **miir** » May 30, 2006, 10:46 am

Fuselage is 23ft 4in at thickest point. I mis-understood the information i posted at first, and didnt take into account the tailwing.

I was giving height, not width.
At the wings, the fuselage is around 24 feet wide but it is only 18 feet high.

cadalano · Post by **cadalano** » May 30, 2006, 10:54 am

why is a fuselage guaranteed to leave an exact profile in a wall on impact, anyway? bugs bunny does that, motherfuckers!

Fash · Post by **Fash** » May 30, 2006, 8:10 pm

fuck the fuselage.. where are the WINGS and the TAIL???!!!! HOW BOUT THEM ENGINES??!

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » May 30, 2006, 9:01 pm

Fash wrote:fuck the fuselage.. where are the WINGS and the TAIL???!!!! HOW BOUT THEM ENGINES??!

Isn't fuel stored in the wings of aircraft? I'm wondering where the majority of the flames were in the Pentagon... or where the fires started in the building.

Wings would be burned up from burning fuel I think.

Skogen · Post by **Skogen** » May 31, 2006, 1:40 pm

Did anyone else notice the trail of white smoke that came in behind this supposed aircraft. Jet engines don't give off white smoke....but I know of another type of engine that does put out white smoke! No, it's not a '74 Ford LTD that needs a ring job.....

Aneron · Post by **Aneron** » May 31, 2006, 4:08 pm

Aruman wrote:I'm wondering where the majority of the flames were in the Pentagon

Large fireballs traveled 1/4 to 1/3 the way around the building....following the large cooridors. Fires of course started and spread from there. People on the other side of the building didn't know it even happened until they were told.

That is not saying that it wasn't horrific or that it wasn't the plane, but just because of the layout and composition of the building.

cadalano · Post by **cadalano** » May 31, 2006, 5:47 pm

it takes 5 grainy frames to prove to so many people that an airplane did NOT hit the building... yet it takes more than identified bodies, images of wreckage, hundreds of eye-witness accounts, and... fuckin' common sense to prove otherwise. please tell me youre just buying into this fantasy in the hopes that Agent Skully will bust into your room one night and spank your ass because you know too much?

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » May 31, 2006, 6:14 pm

the federal government cant fucking get anything as complex as "staging 9/11" right.

anybody who seriously believes that wasnt hugged enough as a child.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » May 31, 2006, 6:23 pm

Voronwë wrote:the federal government cant fucking get anything as complex as "staging 9/11" right.

anybody who seriously believes that wasnt hugged enough as a child.

Ok Kobe.

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » May 31, 2006, 6:29 pm

I dread the day a real conspiracy ever grips our world. These douchebags have cried wolf on shit like this so many times it's jaded anyone who might have listened beyond recovery.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » May 31, 2006, 6:50 pm

Niffoni wrote:I dread the day a real conspiracy ever grips our world. These douchebags have cried wolf on shit like this so many times it's jaded anyone who might have listened beyond recovery.

Real conspiracies are goign on every day. People making a big deal out of stupid conspiracies is exactly what the power weilders want. The waters are so muddied, true conspiracies will never be looked at any harder than the frivolous(sp?) ones.

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » May 31, 2006, 6:53 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Niffoni wrote:I dread the day a real conspiracy ever grips our world. These douchebags have cried wolf on shit like this so many times it's jaded anyone who might have listened beyond recovery.
Real conspiracies are goign on every day. People making a big deal out of stupid conspiracies is exactly what the power weilders want. The waters are so muddied, true conspiracies will never be looked at any harder than the frivolous(sp?) ones.

I meant conquer-the-world conspiracies, but I guess I agree with you, although I tend to think of the real ones as being liars who are getting away with things more because no one is watching, and less because they're a well-oiled machine of misinformation and propaganda

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » May 31, 2006, 8:41 pm

Kobe?

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » May 31, 2006, 9:02 pm

Voronwë wrote:Kobe?

Kobe Tai? Hrmm.. nah, that can't be it, but always the first thing that comes to mind when I hear that name

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » May 31, 2006, 9:53 pm

LOL i get the reference now.

Kobe was cracking on Raja Bell in the first round after that big elbow he took. LOL, good one Mid. I must have had that kicking around in the back of my head or something!

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » May 31, 2006, 10:22 pm

Voronwë wrote:LOL i get the reference now.

Kobe was cracking on Raja Bell in the first round after that big elbow he took. LOL, good one Mid. I must have had that kicking around in the back of my head or something!

noel · Post by **noel** » May 31, 2006, 10:51 pm

cadalano wrote:...in the hopes that Agent Skully will bust into your room one night and spank your ass...

That does make for a nice visual.

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » June 1, 2006, 2:06 am

Zaelath wrote:
Voronwë wrote:Kobe?
Kobe Tai? Hrmm.. nah, that can't be it, but always the first thing that comes to mind when I hear that name

Damn, i must be getting corrupted by my coworkers, that was what i was thinking too.

Skogen · Post by **Skogen** » June 1, 2006, 12:47 pm

cadalano wrote:it takes 5 grainy frames to prove to so many people that an airplane did NOT hit the building... yet it takes more than identified bodies, images of wreckage, hundreds of eye-witness accounts, and... fuckin' common sense to prove otherwise. please tell me youre just buying into this fantasy in the hopes that Agent Skully will bust into your room one night and spank your ass because you know too much?

Those eyewitnesses were blackmailed & bribed into it!!11!!!1!

Neroon · Post by **Neroon** » June 1, 2006, 3:08 pm

Kaylani Lei > Kobe Tai! Not that I have any idea who they are.....or what you are talking about.

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » June 2, 2006, 6:25 pm

A hollow 23ft wide cylinder isn't neccessarily going to make a 23ft wide hole.

Edit: replying to the end of page 1, guess i'm out of practice.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 2, 2006, 6:29 pm

Either you're with us or against us Forthe!

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » June 3, 2006, 1:32 am

Might be 23 feet wide somewhere (not sure where from the images I have seen) but it most certainly is not 23 feet wide anywhere from the nose to where the wings meet the body.

About 13 feet wide would have been the width until the wings met the walls.

miir · Post by **miir** » June 3, 2006, 11:10 am

Aruman wrote:Might be 23 feet wide somewhere (not sure where from the images I have seen) but it most certainly is not 23 feet wide anywhere from the nose to where the wings meet the body.

About 13 feet wide would have been the width until the wings met the walls.

Widest part of the fuselage is where the wings are attached.

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » June 3, 2006, 1:40 pm

miir wrote:
Aruman wrote:Might be 23 feet wide somewhere (not sure where from the images I have seen) but it most certainly is not 23 feet wide anywhere from the nose to where the wings meet the body.

About 13 feet wide would have been the width until the wings met the walls.
Widest part of the fuselage is where the wings are attached.

Yes, I understand that, but that is a good ways back from the nose of the aircraft. It is not that wide along the entire length.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » June 4, 2006, 3:59 am

It's crazy how all those peoples deaths have been manipulated by your government for a stupid fear driven indefinate "war on terror".

If you were actually patriotic and cared about the people who died on 9'11 you would be going after Bin Laden once and for all and not spending billions of dollars killing innocent people in Iraq wondering why the rest of the world is increasingly saddaned by your misplaced righteousness.