I waited untill after the credits rolled paitently. I've no clue what it was refering to when it had professor X in the hospital bed other than the obvious, that he wasnt actually dead. Could someone please give me some insight as to what it means?
Took me some thinking about it, as I didnt stay through the credits and only saw this low-quality camera phone quality on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bogAgn0rslU) after I got home
But after I thought about it a while it hit me like a brick!
Remember during the scene where Dr Xavier was teaching his class and showed them a video of a doctor with a patient that had no brain, but had all the components to live... though he was unable to think, speak, hear, etc. I think Dr Xavier either embodied himself in this person before he died.. or managed to do it before his encounter with Jean Grey knowing he was going to die. So when the guy in the bed spoke, the female looked shocked!
I would consider myself a comic book fan, but by no means a serious one... I got that reference when it was made originally in the movie.. I think Xavier has done that a few times in the comics storyline.
I still didnt like it, crappy effects a busy storyline that was trying to do too much. Then again I didnt really like the first one either....
I thought it was so-so. Juggs really disappointed me, in fact I really hated that character and I was looking forward to him. I thought the Beast was pretty good tho. Overall I would rank it my least favorite of the 3 movies.
Withefel wrote:I waited untill after the credits rolled paitently. I've no clue what it was refering to when it had professor X in the hospital bed other than the obvious, that he wasnt actually dead. Could someone please give me some insight as to what it means?
Not going to spoil it, but pay attention to the movie and you can take a guess as to what happened. (Just read Durew's comment and I agree with that, but added my thoughts too).
Professor X was talking to the children about morality etc... and showed the body of a man that had no brain activity.
My thoughts are that Professor X transferred himself to such a body when Jean Grey was about to kill him. Something of a coincidence that it happened to be where Moira McTaggert was at though.
They did not show his face, and Moira's questioning tone when she said his name makes me suspect this. If so this allows the X-Men movies to be continued without Patrick Stewart playing the part of The Professor in future films.
Maybe a clone of his own body could be another approach, but since his face wasn't shown, I'm doubting that.
"Or else... what?"
"Or else, We will be very, very angry with you, and we will write you a letter telling you how angry we are..."
What? No funeral for Scott? No one seemed to really give a fuck he even died. There wasn't even an intro story for Kitty Pryde. People didn't even know wtf she was, or why she was an X-man in this flick. At least Collousus got some screentime in X2. When the Brotherhood attacked the island, why didn't any of the mutants use powers? To me, that just seemed as though the movie was rushed. A few moths to throw in some special effects for the "bad" mutants would've made the fight more enjoyable and would have been an excellent place for cameos of lesser characters. So, Magneto just watched his men get their asses handed to them when he could've taken out wolverine and collosus as an afterthought? That didn't make sense either. Why did the evil mutants kill the research woman in the hallway, yet felt compelled to drag the professor to the top of the building and throw him off? These, and many others, are the types of silly things Singer would've avoided IMO.
The good outweighed the bad though, with Dark Pheonix being a total ass kicking monster, and so was Magneto. There were many subtle throwbacks to the first 2 movies, making them feel like one big saga. The things they placed in the movie to shock the fans got me everytime. The death of Professor X was as shocking as it was awesome. The tactic to get Magneto with the needles totally fooled me as well. I was thinking "wtf are they going to throw Wolverine at him? That never works and it seems lke thay would've figured that out by now..."
Beast was well done, especially when he went nuts and kicked some ass. Lots of little things added up to make up for some pretty big flaws that could easily have made this one a stinker.
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It was entertaining but could have been better. As was mentioned above, Kitty Pryde was sort of thrown into the story. She's my favorite X-Men in that I sort of grew up with her as she was introduced into the X-Men when I was a kid and I learned about the X-Men as she did, going through the Danger Room, etc.
I don't get the Bobby/Kitty relationship although I have lost touch with all the storylines in the X-men lately, I thought Kitty and Colossus were always a thing and don't remember Bobby being involved.
Same with Rogue. I thought she was with Gambit...although she's a Southern Ho so has been around the block and everyone has probably had their shot at her.
The movie is definately going off on it's own from the books as Scott Summers never dies that I recall either. He's a pussy character anyway though so not a big loss.
What I think happened with the rushed storyline is that they tried to mix in an old Death of Jean Grey/Rise of the Phoenix with the more up to date House of M crap where Mutants are losing their powers.
With the special effects they have today, it would have been cool to see the firebird phoenix shape behind Jean Grey during some of the times she wigs out.
Juggernaut was a waste of film footage. There are many more interesting villains that could have taken his spot.
It's also interesting that Magneto shows absolutely zero loyalty to Mystique after she gets turned into a human...especially after saving his ass. He could have at least kept her around as a maid or something!
X3 was the worst of the three but still entertaining to watch. I agree that it seemed thrown together and perhaps should have focused on a few characters instead of throwing a lot at us that weren't developed enough.
When Storm and Wolverine broke down and cried after Professor X exploded...it seemed really cheesy! And what was with Storm turning into the Tasmanian Devil and spinning around like a tornado? She never did that in the comics. She controls the weather and might create a mini tornado but not ride inside of it like a top.
Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!
I saw a bootleg copy, I'll give it another watch in the theaters. It seemed okay, but I didn't like all the funny stuff either. And it did seem like they were shoving a lot of new mutants into it for no reason. It could have been worse though, and for a comic book movie it still kicked ass.
At the end where Magneto is sitting and playing chess with himself he looks at the board as if he's trying to move the chess pieces with his powers. It seems they are leaving the door open for another sequel, maybe with the "cure" wearing off after so long.
Angel was totally and utterly fucking gay in the movie and he needed to kick some ass. Why would they drag his dad to the top of the building? So that Angel can swoop down and catch him obviously which seems ridiculous. They could've just thrown him out the window there, and still do the swoop scene.
I tell it like a true mackadelic.
Founder of Ixtlan - the SCUM of Veeshan.
I guess I completely fucking missed it, but everyone was saying that the chess piece DID move before he touched it in the end. I thought he was struggling and finally pushed it personally.
I saw the piece move before he touched it as well. It would make sense that it would wear off, everyone regains their powers after they walk away from Jimmy so it would make sense that if the 'cure' is just more concentrated that (at least more powerful mutants) they would get their powers back eventually.
I agree with the ideas that it could wear off, and I believe that was a rather large story arc in the comics as well. I just missed the piece moving before he touched it since I was also signing my receipt for food at the same time
saw it today, loved it except for the huge deviations from the marvel plots.. too many deaths =(
so maybe I'm a little rusty.. but isn't there a whole nother dynamic behind the phoenix? is it really just jean's subconscious that's been trapped all these years? I thought the phoenix was a separate massively powerful entity that possessed jean and channelled its power through her..
her scenes were the best regardless-
Phoenix can consume entire planets like Galactus. I don't know if the cure would have done it for her since she seems to be possessed by the Phoenix. She's off the charts powerwise and more than just a mutant with the whole possession thing going on.
Phoenix can consume entire planets like Galactus. I don't know if the cure would have done it for her since she seems to be possessed by the Phoenix. She's off the charts powerwise and more than just a mutant with the whole possession thing going on.
Been too many years since I read it, but didn't Jean kill herself in the comics. I seem to remember her levitating a laser and shooting herself to save the world or somesuch.
[hide]Phoenix originally first died in X-Men 137 although she's died and been reborn countless times since then it seems. Great issue though. It takes place on the dark side of the moon!:
You can get some Phoenix background info reading this mini series:
Does the ending of this movie slightly follow an intro into the Days of Future Past arc? I just got that feeling seeing the line of xmen tombstones at the end. I mean, just add a few more graves and there you go. I also felt the danger room simulation in the beginning was hinting at that
Does the ending of this movie slightly follow an intro into the Days of Future Past arc? I just got that feeling seeing the line of xmen tombstones at the end. I mean, just add a few more graves and there you go. I also felt the danger room simulation in the beginning was hinting at that
I had thought that there were going to be Sentinals in this movie.
From what I remember from the comics, wasn't Juggs Prof X's brother? And he wore the helmet to block Psi powers? I remember them always having to tear off his helmet to knock him out or put him to sleep.
I wasn't overly happy with the movie myself and would give it a 7.5/10.
I'm not a big fan of the first two X-Men movies (or X-Men in general)... And #3 didn't really grab me either. I also think it was the weakest of the three.
I had thought that there were going to be Sentinals in this movie.
From what I remember from the comics, wasn't Juggs Prof X's brother? And he wore the helmet to block Psi powers? I remember them always having to tear off his helmet to knock him out or put him to sleep.
I wasn't overly happy with the movie myself and would give it a 7.5/10.
Disappointed in Colossus screentime. All he did was throw Wolverine around and protect Rogue. No fighting at all, no russian freighttrains, nothing! He never cared either, didnt say a word, just stood around and waited until Wolvie gave him an order!
Disappointed in Colossus screentime. All he did was throw Wolverine around and protect Rogue. No fighting at all, no russian freighttrains, nothing! He never cared either, didnt say a word, just stood around and waited until Wolvie gave him an order!
Hey throw me!
Hehe... I kept getting this thought when I heard that line:
Saw it nearly a week ago. To a person who doesnt know the comics, it was a decent movie. However I know a decent amount of the storylines, and this movie pissed me off.
Wolverine: Only really liked him when he was fighting.
Kitty Pride: Decent acting and character protrayal, but they NEVER explain even a little back story on her. They never even call her shadowcat ><
Colosus and Juggernaut: No charisma at all, except for jugger saying "im the juggernaut bitch!" which I admit had me laughing enough to draw attention. Vinny should of played colosus and jugger should have been all CGI. They were both showed WAY smaller than they should have been.
Storm: Didnt like the protrayal in this movie nor the other 2, fuck her
Cyclops: I cant stand how cyclops is constantly made to look like a pussy. Plus the way hes killed off in the begining, and didnt get a funeral untill jean dies, wtf.
Jean: What the fuck was this alter ego shit? Pheonix wasnt some mental recess, she was a fucking unstopable galactic energy wave that cured planets!
Prof X and Magneto: Very well done i feel. As such in the first two as well. But this shit with their "they are gone. or ARE they?" really pissed me off. If you are going to kill someone off or take their powers, than do it. Dont jerk around with it.
Beast: Awesome job as well.
Pyro: Well done, but didnt really leave an impression.
Angel: Didnt really get enough screen time to act the character, I would of liked to see more.
Aside from the characters, the movie itself was very well done. Effects were awesome. The story, for what they were trying to do, was decent as well. The score they used felt really appropriate as well. I would of liked to see Quicksilver and/or Scarlet Witch, but I can understand not using them. All in all it was an enjoyable movie if you dont let the character stories get to you.
I just saw it with my son about 20 mins ago. I wasn't impressed at all. Then again I haven't really been impressed by the first 2 either. It's filled with terrible acting and very loose storylines.
Kitty was introduced in X-1. They didn't do an entire formal intro or anything but they had clips of her with the president talking about mutants walking through walls.
Ohhh, ok. I had never read the books. I just figured they ran out of ideas so decided to rip off a bad vampyre (notice the goth 'y') movie.
There were some bitchin' sequences, but the movie had no flow....very hodge podge. Sometimes directors help a movie be better than the sum of its parts. This is not one of those times.
They sure didn't miss on some of the CGI though.
5/10--Fucked it up, but it could have been much worse.
I was glad to see cyclops killed off. I hated that actor. He could act his way out of a paperbag. He really annoyed me in the first movie so good riddance. I liked him in the comics though.
I would have liked to see more mutant special abilities as well but if I remember right from the comics, the morlocks usually didn't have a lot of mutant attack powers. They were usually physically disfigured andhence why they hid out in the sewers.
They seemed to take some liberties between the comics and movies but there are like 18 million different xmen related comics so I am sure you could find them somewhere if you lookedhard enough.
Yep, the goth girls seems to be morlocks, noticed Callisto mentioned in the credits.
But no clue which one shes supposed to be though, none of their powers match Callistos. And no eyepatch
Definitely the worst of the 3 movies. Was REALLY missing Nightcrawler, he turned into my favorite after i got overexposed to Wolverine.
Wolverine. Who cares, hes himself, hes too valuable to kill, hurt or harm, since half of the X-comics are about him. I mean, the guy managed to heal fast enough to not get disintegrated by Phoenix after she smash the entire area. WAY ridiculous.
Shadowcat. MAJOR lack of backstory, i wonder what people who dont know the comic think. Good acting though, i was worried about Ellen Paige playing the role, but she did ok.
Colossus. Again, who cares, only reason for him to be in the movie was to throw wolverine.
Storm. Boring yet again, but at least she got to use her powers this time, she was VERY downplayed in the 2 first movies. Still bad acting from Halle Berry though.
Beast. The big surprise. Kelsey Grammer was great as Beast, had my doubts about him. But fun to see him fight. Lack of backstory though.
Angel. Why was he in the movie? To fly a few times. He could at least have ben fighting.
Juggernaut. Should have been CGI. WAY too small. the fight between him and Wolvie was decent though.
Maddox. Was cool to have him in the movie, but a shame he was just used as a cheap trick, instead of an all-out matrix Smith-Vs-Neo fight against someone.
Cyclops. Waste of time yet again. At least he got killed this time, but no dramatics, no interest, not even a bloody funeral. Basically a waste of screen time.
Magneto. Great again, by far the best acting in the movie.
Various mutants in the end battle. Waste of time, no powers, no exitement, nothing usefull.
The Phoenix stuff was decent, but had hoped for something a little more like the original story. And WTF did they do the "alternate personality" stuff? Phoenix is a nasty galactic force, not a result of a few mind blocks.
But they seemed to just build this movie on too few mutants, and cut some decent ones, and introduce new ones without explanation. Ill get it on DVD, but i had hoped and expected more.
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Although I thought X-Men 3 was the worst of the bunch, it still sold the most DVDs for an October release ever its first day:
X-Men 3 Biggest October DVD Release Of All Time
It looks like more people liked X-Men 3 than you might think (I was one of them). As you know, X-Men 3 came out on DVD the other day, then reports are coming in that it's opening day sales were good... damn good. Yahoo gives us this:
Industry sources peg combined consumer spending on the titles to be more than $80 million, making Tuesday the biggest fourth-quarter opening day in the history of home video. Industry sources put first-day sales of Fox's "X-Men" at 2.6 million units and Disney's "Mermaid" at 1.6 million units. Those figures include sales to rental dealers.
"X-Men" is the biggest October DVD debut ever, and "Mermaid" is the biggest animated DVD debut for October.
Not a bad day for the folks at Fox, which I'm sure will only solidify what Fox Chairman Tom Rothman already said the other day... there WILL be more X-Men films. This franchise is like printing your own free money. And even with some of the negative flack the film has taken since its release, it still sells 2.6 million copies on its first day. Wow. Oh yeah... I was one of the guys who bought it.
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