Queue times on WW?

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » May 9, 2006, 1:48 pm

Bored silly and thinking about playing again for a bit, how playable has Whisperwind been lately?

Not really in the mood to level another char up on a different server.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » May 9, 2006, 2:49 pm

I have had no problem getting into WW at all. Granted I may be getting on before the peak time of 7-9 cst but I haven't heard anyone in my guild complain of the wait or if there even was one.

Post by **pyrella** » May 9, 2006, 6:49 pm

There hasn't been a queue since the pvp server split. Good riddance to bad rubbish!

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » May 9, 2006, 7:12 pm

Even though I don't want to restart on another server, I might actually give WW a try...

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » May 16, 2006, 4:59 pm

A bit overdue, but when I tried to log into WW. While it was a Thur evening a couple of weeks ago during my wife's ER tv time and probably a heavy period, the wait was over 150 people. I ended up playing on eitrigg (sp?) which is considered a low server. Not sure how indicative it is overall, but that was my observation.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » May 16, 2006, 6:33 pm

Because a 150 person queue would set you back all of about 3-5 minutes...

I don't like queues anymore than the next person, but 5 or 6 minutes wait is not a big deal, and I have never waited longer than that on whisperwind.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » May 16, 2006, 6:49 pm

There have not been any queues at all on Khadgar in a couple months. When they were there, it was generally only on a couple days of the week (Monday being one of them). The fun thing is how they keep "fixing" the Authentication problems by breaking them in new and tastier ways!

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » May 16, 2006, 7:02 pm

Yeah, I will not argue that Blizzards patches, and resolution time for issues is subpar.. I really don't think anyone would.

miir · Post by **miir** » May 17, 2006, 10:53 am

Funkmasterr wrote:Because a 150 person queue would set you back all of about 3-5 minutes...

I don't like queues anymore than the next person, but 5 or 6 minutes wait is not a big deal, and I have never waited longer than that on whisperwind.

I find it funny that people keep making excuses for this game.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » May 17, 2006, 11:09 am

lol, I find it funny you can't stand a 3-5 minute wait. A.D.D?

miir · Post by **miir** » May 17, 2006, 11:13 am

Lynks wrote:lol, I find it funny you can't stand a 3-5 minute wait. A.D.D?

That's not the point.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » May 17, 2006, 11:21 am

Yes it is. Saying a 3-5 minute wait isn't a big deal IS NOT making excuses. But go ahead, keep trowing out shit. Is there anything you actually like? YOu bash everything in every thread. Get some help, go see a shrink.

Sargeras · Post by **Sargeras** » May 17, 2006, 11:30 am

miir wrote:
Funkmasterr wrote:Because a 150 person queue would set you back all of about 3-5 minutes...

I don't like queues anymore than the next person, but 5 or 6 minutes wait is not a big deal, and I have never waited longer than that on whisperwind.
I find it funny that people keep making excuses for this game.

IRONY!

miir · Post by **miir** » May 17, 2006, 11:32 am

Lynks wrote:Yes it is. Saying a 3-5 minute wait isn't a big deal IS NOT making excuses. But go ahead, keep trowing out shit. Is there anything you actually like? YOu bash everything in every thread. Get some help, go see a shrink.

It's funny that I get called out for shitting on Blizzard for real problems they have with their game that they have been unable to fix for over 18 months since release.... but some people have Blizzard cock so far down their throat that they rationalise that wating X minutes in a login queue to play a game is acceptable.

Is there anything you actually like?

Selective memory?

I've said many times that I actually like WoW.. especially levels 1-59. They did an awesome job on the game, but I really don't like it enough to keep switching servers... and having to level up a new character because the 3 servers I have played went to shit with unplayable lag and login queues gets pretty annoying.
I think one and a half years is more than enough time for a company to get thier shit together and fix their infrastructure issues.

If you had to wait 3-4 minutes before you could start watching TV every time you turned your TV on, would that be acceptable?

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » May 17, 2006, 11:34 am

Lynks wrote:lol, I find it funny you can't stand a 3-5 minute wait. A.D.D?

Can I stand a 3 minute wait? Certainly.

Should I have too? No. If they've done their homework you should rarely if ever have a queue. Unless your primary goal is maximum profit rather than customer satisfaction.

Blizzards servers were part of the reason I quit playing last year. Seems decent enough so far.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » May 17, 2006, 11:37 am

I havta agree with Miir on the queue thing. I thought this was unacceptable when they originally put this is and it is even moreso now.

For some reason, Lothar has had a surge of popularity while I was away. When I login after all the family stuff is over in the evening(8:30 - 9:00pm), I frequently havta wait in a 3-5 minute queue now.

I dunno about you guys but I have precious little gaming time available to me and I sure as hell don't want to spend it waiting in a queue.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » May 17, 2006, 11:42 am

3-5 minutes is not the end of the world that some of you are trying to portray. I guess I just don't understand where this hatred for the loss of a couple of minutes comes from.

miir · Post by **miir** » May 17, 2006, 11:47 am

Lynks wrote:3-5 minutes is not the end of the world that some of you are trying to portray.

Uhmm, nobody is trying to say that at all.

Would you consider it acceptable that you be required to wait 3-5 minutes (or more) to use any service that you pay for?

Am I being unreasonable in expecting to see a picture as soon as I turn on my TV? Or to get a dial tone when I want to use my phone? Or to be able to play a game without having to wait 3-5 minutes?

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » May 17, 2006, 11:49 am

What about having to wait a minute or two for every zone line you cross? I think the point is that we have had much worse. With Blizzard you just get that "wait time" when you first log in on SOME servers.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » May 17, 2006, 11:50 am

It's not the end of the world, it's just a f-ing annoyance that I shouldn't have to deal with as a paying customer.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » May 17, 2006, 11:51 am

miir wrote:I think one and a half years is more than enough time for a company to get thier shit together and fix their infrastructure issues.

Sums up the subject up for me.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » May 17, 2006, 11:53 am

Boogahz wrote:What about having to wait a minute or two for every zone line you cross? I think the point is that we have had much worse. With Blizzard you just get that "wait time" when you first log in on SOME servers.

there's a world of difference between load time and waiting for other players to log off before I can be let in.

Load time can be trimmed by getting better hardware and is something I have direct control over.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » May 17, 2006, 11:53 am

miir wrote:
Lynks wrote:3-5 minutes is not the end of the world that some of you are trying to portray.
Uhmm, nobody is trying to say that at all.

Would you consider it acceptable that you be required to wait 3-5 minutes (or more) to use any service that you pay for?

Am I being unreasonable in expecting to see a picture as soon as I turn on my TV? Or to get a dial tone when I want to use my phone? Or to be able to play a game without having to wait 3-5 minutes?

It happens everyday. When you call some company during peak hours, you get a busy signal or get put on hold. Shit happens during peak hours.

miir · Post by **miir** » May 17, 2006, 11:58 am

Boogahz wrote:What about having to wait a minute or two for every zone line you cross? I think the point is that we have had much worse. With Blizzard you just get that "wait time" when you first log in on SOME servers.

Upgrade your P3 if you're taking over a minute (or even two!)to zone in EQ2. My zone times are around 20 secs.

How long does it take you to get to Silithus from Org.... or to EPL from BRS? Man, that's another thing I don't miss from WoW.. those god forsaken flightpaths... especially the alliance FPs on Kalimdor.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » May 17, 2006, 12:01 pm

At least we can agree on the flight paths

Hopefully, they implement something in the next 2 years to eliminate long travels (kinda like what EQ did).

miir · Post by **miir** » May 17, 2006, 12:02 pm

Lynks wrote:It happens everyday. When you call some company during peak hours, you get a busy signal or get put on hold. Shit happens during peak hours.

We're not talking about customer service/support.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » May 17, 2006, 12:04 pm

No, but we are talking about a wait time for a service...

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » May 17, 2006, 12:06 pm

miir wrote:
Boogahz wrote:What about having to wait a minute or two for every zone line you cross? I think the point is that we have had much worse. With Blizzard you just get that "wait time" when you first log in on SOME servers.
Upgrade your P3 if you're taking over a minute (or even two!)to zone in EQ2. My zone times are around 20 secs.

How long does it take you to get to Silithus from Org.... or to EPL from BRS? Man, that's another thing I don't miss from WoW.. those god forsaken flightpaths... especially the alliance FPs on Kalimdor.

funny:

1) I have 2 comps and both have better than a P3
2) I don't have a queue to log into any game I play
3) I was not talking about EQ2..see the reference to we? That was not the royal "we." See the "have had?" That's past tense. That means: We, collective, have had, in the past, long wait times when zoning. To be more specific for you, think Everquest.

miir · Post by **miir** » May 17, 2006, 12:07 pm

Lynks wrote:No, but we are talking about a wait time for a service...

Most companies offer a premium support plan that eliminates wait times on peak hours. I know our vendors do... and you're certainly not paying Blizzard for their support or customer service.

At least we don't have to wait 3-5 minutes before their software starts to work.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » May 17, 2006, 12:09 pm

miir wrote:
Lynks wrote:No, but we are talking about a wait time for a service...
Most companies offer a premium support plan that eliminates wait times on peak hours. I know our vendors do... and you're certainly not paying Blizzard for their support or customer service.

At least we don't have to wait 3-5 minutes before their software starts to work.

So, you are willing to pay more than other people to get better service. Does that mean you would pay an additional 25-50% for no queues? Probably not.

miir · Post by **miir** » May 17, 2006, 12:10 pm

Boogahz wrote:funny:

1) I have 2 comps and both have better than a P3
2) I don't have a queue to log into any game I play
3) I was not talking about EQ2

1) Duh, I was just exaggerating.
2) Just because you don't currently have to endure login queues on your server, it does not mean that they don't exist.
3)I just assumed you were taking a shot at the game that I'm playing now.

But how about those flightpaths!

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » May 17, 2006, 12:10 pm

miir wrote:
Boogahz wrote:funny:

1) I have 2 comps and both have better than a P3
2) I don't have a queue to log into any game I play
3) I was not talking about EQ2
1) Duh, I was just exaggerating.
2) Just because you don't currently have to endure login queues on your server, it does not mean that they don't exist.
3)I just assumed you were taking a shot at the game that I'm playing now.

But how about those flightpaths!

I rarely go there, so I didn't address them. When I do go, I usually get a summon

miir · Post by **miir** » May 17, 2006, 12:12 pm

Boogahz wrote:So, you are willing to pay more than other people to get better service.

Me personally?
Nope.

But premium support for mission critical apps is something that a lot of companies would pay for...

Does that mean you would pay an additional 25-50% for no queues? Probably not.

What a great idea!
You should pitch that to Blizzard!

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » May 17, 2006, 12:15 pm

WoW should award XP for waiting in queue. Then maybe people wouldn't mind so much!

I don't play WoW but I would find having to wait in line to play any game to be an annoyance. And it's totally not the same thing as being on hold when calling a company to receive customer service.

It's simply sounds like insufficient infrastructure to handle the demand.

Sargeras · Post by **Sargeras** » May 17, 2006, 12:51 pm

miir wrote:How long does it take you to get to Silithus from Org.... or to EPL from BRS? Man, that's another thing I don't miss from WoW.. those god forsaken flightpaths... especially the alliance FPs on Kalimdor.

At least I can afk to get food/drink/bio/browse the forums while I'm on the bird, rather than come back and see I ran 50 feet into a wall/zone geometry trying to get somewhere.

miir · Post by **miir** » May 17, 2006, 1:07 pm

Sargeras wrote:At least I can afk to get food/drink/bio/browse the forums while I'm on the bird, rather than come back and see I ran 50 feet into a wall/zone geometry trying to get somewhere.

I think I'm going to make a post on the EQ2 forums suggesting they artifically extend travel times between zones so I can afk to get food/drink/bio/browse the forums.

Fantastic idea!!

Sargeras · Post by **Sargeras** » May 17, 2006, 1:14 pm

miir wrote:
Sargeras wrote:At least I can afk to get food/drink/bio/browse the forums while I'm on the bird, rather than come back and see I ran 50 feet into a wall/zone geometry trying to get somewhere.
I think I'm going to make a post on the EQ2 forums suggesting they artifically extend travel times between zones so I can afk to get food/drink/bio/browse the forums.

Fantastic idea!!

Oh yes, because in EQ2 you can get to Lavastorm from Qeynos, or through the Realm of Dawn, or Desert of Flames (without aggroing) with the snap of the fingers or while being AFK.

OH SNAP!

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » May 17, 2006, 1:31 pm

I can't believe what what whiney little bitches some of you are being about this.. Way to hold up the worlds opinion of people from the U.S. being lazy and impatient.

Everything does not need to be instant because you pay for it.. If I take into account that maybe 2 or 3 days of the week our server has a 5 minute queue, and compare it to all the loading I did in Everquest, I garuntee you WoW is less over a years time.. No matter how nice your computer was when you were playing eq.

I mean, I understand that everyone always needs to have as many gripes about a mmorpg as possible, but this just seems pathetic to me.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » May 17, 2006, 2:11 pm

Funkmasterr wrote:I can't believe what what whiney little bitches some of you are being about this.. Way to hold up the worlds opinion of people from the U.S. being lazy and impatient.

Good job reinforcing the view that Americans have know knowledge of Geography. Unless you are talking about everyone in this thread no matter what their stance, the two I noticed (Animalor and Miir) are in Canada.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » May 17, 2006, 2:15 pm

They can't all be from Ireland.

Actually I have just come to accept the queue as a necessary evil. Imagine if they didn't have a cap on the population then we'd all be lagged to hell and back. I'd rather wait the few minutes before playing than to wait while I am trying to play.

Psyloche · Post by **Psyloche** » May 17, 2006, 2:19 pm

Funkmasterr wrote:I can't believe what what whiney little bitches some of you are being about this.. Way to hold up the worlds opinion of people from the U.S. being lazy and impatient.

Everything does not need to be instant because you pay for it.. If I take into account that maybe 2 or 3 days of the week our server has a 5 minute queue, and compare it to all the loading I did in Everquest, I garuntee you WoW is less over a years time.. No matter how nice your computer was when you were playing eq.

I mean, I understand that everyone always needs to have as many gripes about a mmorpg as possible, but this just seems pathetic to me.

sony ain't got no street cred, they're just fakas.

miir · Post by **miir** » May 17, 2006, 2:56 pm

Sargeras wrote:Oh yes, because in EQ2 you can get to Lavastorm from Qeynos, or through the Realm of Dawn, or Desert of Flames (without aggroing) with the snap of the fingers or while being AFK.

OH SNAP!

You obviously don't even play EQ2, otherwise you'd know it takes as little as 20-30 seconds to get from Qeynos to Lavastorm.

Everything does not need to be instant because you pay for it..

Name me one service that you pay for where it's acceptable or commonplace to wait for 3-5 (or more) minutes before you can use it.

compare it to all the loading I did in Everquest, I garuntee you WoW is less over a years time.. No matter how nice your computer was when you were playing eq

Zone loading in EQ wasn't a result of shitty hardware or infrastructure, it was a limitation of the game engine and therefore unavoidable and uncorrectable unless they rebuilt the game from the ground up.

If you wan't to compare zone loading to anything, compare it to the flightpaths in WoW. Flightpaths suck, but I understand the reason why they were implemented as they were. I don't like it, but I can live with it...

I mean, I understand that everyone always needs to have as many gripes about a mmorpg as possible, but this just seems pathetic to me.

So people should just shut the fuck up and deal with the fact that blizzard/vivendi are obviously incompetant and will never be able to fix their hardware/network/infrastructure problems?

Gotcha!

Sargeras · Post by **Sargeras** » May 17, 2006, 3:01 pm

miir wrote:You obviously don't even play EQ2, otherwise you'd know it takes as little as 20-30 seconds to get from Qeynos to Lavastorm.

But you can't account for all the other places?

Start running, and remember to turn on auto-run again everytime you finish zoning. Hope you don't aggro anything, or auto-run into something when you go afk for a minute.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » May 17, 2006, 3:03 pm

miir wrote:Name me one service that you pay for where it's acceptable or commonplace to wait for 3-5 (or more) minutes before you can use it.

A movie at the theatre.
A Rollercoaster.
Sometimes a sporting event.

Want me to name more?

An airplane ride.
A restaurant.

Sargeras · Post by **Sargeras** » May 17, 2006, 3:17 pm

miir wrote:Name me one service that you pay for where it's acceptable or commonplace to wait for 3-5 (or more) minutes before you can use it.

A cruise
Broadway
Disneyland
Installing a game (ie: EQ2, WoW, EQ) + loading/patching
Customer support (for just about anything)
Netflix
Insurance (sad, but true)

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » May 17, 2006, 3:24 pm

A cell phone..

I'm so hungry its distracting me from all else or I would throw a few more out there...

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » May 17, 2006, 3:28 pm

Lynks wrote:A restaurant.

Not me, if choice "A" has people waiting I go to a different restaurant. Haven't been in an Outback in 4-5 years because of that, the two near me are always packed.

We end up at the Chinese buffet maybe 25% of the time, but that's just fine by me. When I want to eat, I want to eat.

If I wanted to spend my life waiting for other people to finish doing "X" I'd have stayed in Alameda. Pretty much goes for any activity, if there's a long wait I find something else to do if possible.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » May 17, 2006, 3:39 pm

Some of you are really stretching for examples to justify overcrowded servers simpy because it doesn't specifically bother you.

With (all) those you know there will be a delay. Obviously at a restaurant you have to wait for food to be prepared since they don't know ahead of time what you're going to be ordering.

Do they state on the WoW box (or in EULA since everyone reads that) that you may at times be unable to log in and play until others log out? Maybe they do I don't know.. If so then yeah people have nothing to complain about.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » May 17, 2006, 3:49 pm

Remember though, this is mainly during peak times. There is a reason they are busy. It is people. If you want instant gratifcation play a single player game. (some games take a while to load even then though) I can see both sides of the argument here though. Should there be queues holding you back from playing? Ideally no. Is it worth having a hissy fit over? Not really.

To answer the question of the orginal poster though, WW is fine.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » May 17, 2006, 5:45 pm

I've been put on hold with my cable and phone companies many times for up to 10 minutes. I could understand concern for queues that are 10+ minutes but seriously, wash the sand out of your vagina.