I just get really irked when people call the things I've believed in my wholelife nothing more than a work of ficition that is comparable to the works of Tolkien.
Well, Tolkien is better, actually.
I am sorry it irks you, but if you cannot handle being irked when someone disagrees with you, I'd reccomend not entering the arguement at all. I am not going to argue with you over whether the book is fiction or not. That is one of those axiomatic things again. For the purpose of this arguement, though, I am giving that ground to your side and assuming that the Old Testiment is the direct Word of God spoken or recorded through Moses and pther Prophets.
BTW, I hope you understand that by calling the Bible fiction, I am also calling the Quaran and Talmud fiction as well, as they share text. So you should get over your "I am so presecutted as a Christian" thing. I don't see any lions about.
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26: For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature
How can you NOT attribute this to lesbianism? What are you attributing it to then, sheepism? Then when you add the QUALIFIER here:
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And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another
See that "And likewise"? Means the men did the same thing that the women didn't. SO, if the men and the women did it, in the context of all that has been presented here, how can you say that wasn't lesbianism?
Well, actually, that is funny. You must not read very well. The one thing I make very clear I am not attributing it to is beastiality. As I made clear, women, like men, ar forbidden to take part in beastiality. Since Paul made no mention of the women being punished by God for their acts, the one thing it culd not be, is beastiality. As I said pretty clearly, it could be lesbianism, but your logical construct is flawed. I am pretty much just repeating what I said before, so it would help if you bined up on your reading comprehension before going off. But, again, Paul is know for his intollerance. What he saw in the women was that they had given up the natural affections and turned to the unnatural. Again, this could be lesbianism, but it is equally possible that the women simply refused men in favor of masterbation or refused marriage in preference to harlotry. Now, you focus on the term "likewise", but it is actually pretty clear what that term refers to. Like the women, the men gave up teh natural in favour of the unnatural. Unlike the passage about women, however, the unnatural behavior of the men is clearly spelled out - homosexuality. Also, and most important to my argument, since I can concede lesbianism and still show it is not agaist the Laws of God - the men were punished for their acts, the women were NOT.
After that refresher, go back an read what I posted before. If you still have questions, please ask.
But i'd at least like to try and live my life well and do the right things in it and have somthing to beleive in on the off chance that I may be right and have the chance to end up in a place of eternal happiness once I die.
I am sad for you, if this is true. I am happy you have your religion though, if dwelling on the abyss makes your life seem pointless. Basically, if I am reading this right, you are a good person because you seek a prize a the end of the game (and simultaniously, seek to avoid torment). I am good for its own sake and because I know it is the right thing to do in life.
