Massively Multiplayer Orgies

[Winnow]

Less and less imagination required...more realism inc.

Massively Multiplayer Orgies? Online Role Playing Bacchanals?
1/4/2006 4:50:50 PM, by Anders Bylund

This is a tale of two long-term trends, and what happens when they intersect. I'm talking about increasing realism in Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Games, and the gradual shedding of sexual innocence in overall gaming.

The age of ASCII-only MUDs, MOOs, MUSHes, and MUCKs (text-based online role playing, one and all) seems so very long ago when you look at games like Everquest, Ultima Online, the Sims, or World of Warcraft. Gamers have come to expect graphical realism, and online role-playing is no exception, as every new release attempts to suck users into a more perfect and more engrossing alternate reality than the last, and the online, massively multiplayer virtual reality of Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash looks more plausible every day.

So what happens when you merge these two trends? Why, online, interactive, no holds barred porn, of course! It's been happening for a while already, but it looks like we're on the threshold to a much deeper pool of adult-themed MMORPGs to choose from. Let me show you some of the choices, before sitting down to ponder what it all means.

You may have heard of Second Life, a MMORPG with no direct in-game goals, and a world built mostly by the players. The extensibility of the world and the game mechanics quickly led to the release of Second Life Teen, which placed some restrictions on what could be done. In the uncensored version, a whole flora of very, very adult activities has arisen. Machinima, or movies produced using nothing but game engines, is a popular use of Second Life, and a fair share of that is sexually explicit. But you'd expect that, right? There are users with more imagination than that. Take for example Thomas Struszka, the editor of in-game porn rag Slustler.

That's right, your character can go buy a virtual magazine in the game, and go enjoy the centerfold and whatnot. The models are purely imaginary, though future editions are said to include some real photos alongside the avatars. Mr. Struszka has a theory of why his customers seem to prefer his work to traditional adult fare:

Second Life is so good, (in-game visuals) can be sexually stimulating for the viewer. The 'girl next door' effect is way higher than in real porn. We're dealing with a limited user base that comes together in a limited space.... You could actually meet the people you see in the magazine. [...] Second Life represents an escape from repression and conventional rules.... Here you can be what you secretly wish to be, but normally wouldn't dare.

If acting out your fantasies is your thing, Second Life may indeed be your game. Then again, if your fantasies swing towards the socially unacceptable, Sociolotron might be a better fit. Sociolotron's graphics aren't quite up to the standards of Second Life or Everquest, but players are actively encouraged to engage in misfit behaviors. It's where you go to sell your body on the street, rob and murder other characters with management's blessing, or walk around naked, hoping to get raped. This one's absolutely not for the kids, not even the ones who are allowed to play GTA. You're not expected to make friends here, and before signing up, you're alerted that "You must not use the system to plan or start a real life relationship."

If you wanted something real to come out of your online debauchery, you have plenty of choices. There are online dating services, like Naughty America: The Game, where you fill out a dating profile, get matched up with a potential partner, and go... uhm... explore each others' avatars. Or Spend the Night, where you dress up for the night, take your date out on the town, and see how the evening unfolds. Yes, with a possible Happy Ending. If you get along with your date online, you can then take it to the next level, and hook up in reality, too.

Some of the reasons these games exist are pretty obvious: you can look different, act differently, and feel different from your regular self, and safely show off/watch/do wild things that would have definite consequences if done in the real world. And just because there are adult themes flying around doesn't mean that the social aspect of online role playing is gone. Some people might also feel that watching computer-generated flesh and action powered by vertex and pixel shaders is morally acceptable in ways that exploitation of actual humans is not. In a day and age when Janet Jackson's nipple is cause for public outrage and millions of US$ in FCC fines, maybe the role playing community has found a way to sidestep morality issues, though the San Andreas scandal makes me think it's a long shot. But games that have to be sold in plain, brown paper bags will never have the reach of mainstream entertainment, nor will they generate anywhere near the same income. That's why you won't see high-budget games of the really adult kind, and why reviews generally talk about nice graphics, but boring games.

Having the full range of human experience available in the game could enhance the immersive quality of the games, even if the sex isn't the focus of the entire game. In the end, our two trends are meeting, and those who take their MMORPGing seriously are finding that a missing piece in the illusion of reality has been found.

[Winnow]

Staying with the theme:

Better Sex Thru MMOG or MMOVSG?

*** Article below contains NWS stuffage ***
http://www.mmorgy.com/2005/11/better_se ... mmovsg.php

Con: But what if, god forbid, I don't wanna fuck?

However, once sex is over, in other games, you can go back to building, leveling, killing, or whatever your fancy may be. In a virtual sex game, you can have... more sex. Now, granted, most people aren't gonna be pleasuring themselves physically with every single encounter in a VSG, and I know quite a few who could happily go on forever just sexing and sexing and sexing. However, they are very much the minority in terms of people who are going to play these games. So how long will the average play session last? A game where every man is on for a grand total of 2 minutes at a time could get a little schizophrenic.

Here's the main website. Check out the Birth/Adoption picture. Too realistic!

***NWS***
http://www.mmorgy.com/

[Xzion]

looks like they are describing the "ultimate looser games"...instead of wasting time trying to get your dark elf wizard laid online why not go to the gym, get in shape, and attempt so in actual reality, a lot of these gamers might not realize it, but its a hell of a lot better then it is through text in a game

[Moonwynd]

looks like they are describing the "ultimate looser games"...instead of wasting time trying to get your dark elf wizard laid online why not go to the gym, get in shape, and attempt so in actual reality, a lot of these gamers might not realize it, but its a hell of a lot better then it is through text in a game

I agree. There are so many more productive things one can be doing:

1. Using spellcheck
2. Pulling out a dictionary
3. Strapping someone else's urine to their inner thigh

[Funkmasterr]

looks like they are describing the "ultimate looser games"...instead of wasting time trying to get your dark elf wizard laid online why not go to the gym, get in shape, and attempt so in actual reality, a lot of these gamers might not realize it, but its a hell of a lot better then it is through text in a game

I agree. There are so many more productive things one can be doing:

1. Using spellcheck
2. Pulling out a dictionary
3. Strapping someone else's urine to their inner thigh

Xzion,don't you just love how people are so strapped for something to say, they continue to beat a dead horse? I know I sure do.

[Boogahz]

looks like they are describing the "ultimate looser games"...instead of wasting time trying to get your dark elf wizard laid online why not go to the gym, get in shape, and attempt so in actual reality, a lot of these gamers might not realize it, but its a hell of a lot better then it is through text in a game

I agree. There are so many more productive things one can be doing:

1. Using spellcheck
2. Pulling out a dictionary
3. Strapping someone else's urine to their inner thigh

I don't know...with the subject matter, it could have been looser or loser

[noel]

Xzion,don't you just love how people are so strapped for something to say, they continue to beat a dead horse? I know I sure do.

To quote kyoukan:

People reap what they sow.

[Aslanna]

Xzion,don't you just love how people are so strapped for something to say, they continue to beat a dead horse? I know I sure do.

To quote kyoukan:

People reap what they sow.

Better watch out someone might spit on you.

[Xzion]

looks like they are describing the "ultimate looser games"...instead of wasting time trying to get your dark elf wizard laid online why not go to the gym, get in shape, and attempt so in actual reality, a lot of these gamers might not realize it, but its a hell of a lot better then it is through text in a game

I agree. There are so many more productive things one can be doing:

1. Using spellcheck
2. Pulling out a dictionary
3. Strapping someone else's urine to their inner thigh

Xzion,don't you just love how people are so strapped for something to say, they continue to beat a dead horse? I know I sure do.

Heh, you will see after a while that the members of this board that claim to be notorious for “flaming” simply reuse the same 1 or 2 “flames” or insults over and over in a very childish manner. that implies they must browse these message boards simply to feel powerful for putting others down in a manner to relieve some leftover stress from bring picked on middle school

Generally I consider myself a very open minded and non judgmental person, I rarely have any enemies or hold hostility towards anyone, maybe it just reflects upon my general happiness and perspective in which I choose to live by…but honestly, if I can see anyone throw me an insult outside of the bad grammar, spoiled rich boy, or stupid pot smoker fields then I will be damn shocked

[Aabidano]

...you can be what you secretly wish to be, but normally wouldn't dare.

A naughty female elf rather than a 300lb plumber with a furry back?

[Voronwë]

the real feat of daring is not those pretending to be the female elf, but the 300lb hairy fat guy who really wants to have gay sex, but actually only has the guts to pretend he is doing a girl elf

its not good for you to satisfy your natural sexual urges in protracted fantasy form. you need to be working on behaviors that will lead to real sex.

like get the fuck off the chair from time to time =)

[Funkmasterr]

VV, my own personal fucking groundhogs day.

[noel]

Heh, you will see after a while that the members of this board that claim to be notorious for “flaming” simply reuse the same 1 or 2 “flames” or insults over and over in a very childish manner. that implies they must browse these message boards simply to feel powerful for putting others down in a manner to relieve some leftover stress from bring picked on middle school

Generally I consider myself a very open minded and non judgmental person, I rarely have any enemies or hold hostility towards anyone, maybe it just reflects upon my general happiness and perspective in which I choose to live by…but honestly, if I can see anyone throw me an insult outside of the bad grammar, spoiled rich boy, or stupid pot smoker fields then I will be damn shocked

Did it ever occur to you that it's your repeated actions of typing totally incoherent and stupid shit as well as your repeated bragging about the drugs you do that get you flamed in over and over again in the same way?

There are lots of people on this board that smoke pot and still don't have a problem posting well thought out legible, coherent posts, and they NEVER get bagged on for smoking weed or whatever else they might do. Sylvus comes to mind. You however seem to be fixated on this idea that you should be able to post whatever you want and people shouldn't be able to form an opinion of you based on those posts because this is just a message board and it doesn't matter. What you fail to realize, largely because you are completely stupid, is that on a message board, the only thing people have to go by is the quality/content of what you post.

Spare us the poor me bullshit. Either learn to post like a normal person or shut the fuck up.

On a related note... Funkmasterr: In the future if you do something IRL that's actually pretty stupid: DON'T POST IT ON A MESSAGE BOARD.

[Sylvos]

looks like they are describing the "ultimate looser games"...instead of wasting time trying to get your dark elf wizard laid online why not go to the gym, get in shape, and attempt so in actual reality, a lot of these gamers might not realize it, but its a hell of a lot better then it is through text in a game

I agree. There are so many more productive things one can be doing:

1. Using spellcheck
2. Pulling out a dictionary
3. Strapping someone else's urine to their inner thigh

Owned.

[Kaldaur]

Moonwynd wins the flame of the week. I was rolling with that one.

[Tuddi2]

Heh, you will see after a while that the members of this board that claim to be notorious for “flaming” simply reuse the same 1 or 2 “flames” or insults over and over in a very childish manner. that implies they must browse these message boards simply to feel powerful for putting others down in a manner to relieve some leftover stress from bring picked on middle school

reading this i fucking knew Noel would reply, and ta da, he did.

[miir]

Heh, you will see after a while that the members of this board that claim to be notorious for “flaming” simply reuse the same 1 or 2 “flames” or insults over and over in a very childish manner. that implies they must browse these message boards simply to feel powerful for putting others down in a manner to relieve some leftover stress from bring picked on middle school

reading this i fucking knew Noel would reply, and ta da, he did.

reading this i fucking knew Tuddi2 would reply, and ta da, he did

[Leonaerd]

But games that have to be sold in plain, brown paper bags will never have the reach of mainstream entertainment, nor will they generate anywhere near the same income. That's why you won't see high-budget games of the really adult kind, and why reviews generally talk about nice graphics, but boring games.

That's an interesting perspective.

And, uh, weed's bad. And, err, grammar's good.

[Tuddi2]

reading this i fucking knew Tuddi2 would reply, and ta da, he did

a swing and a miss.......

[Asheran Mojomaster]

looks like they are describing the "ultimate looser games"...instead of wasting time trying to get your dark elf wizard laid online why not go to the gym, get in shape, and attempt so in actual reality, a lot of these gamers might not realize it, but its a hell of a lot better then it is through text in a game

I agree. There are so many more productive things one can be doing:

1. Using spellcheck
2. Pulling out a dictionary
3. Strapping someone else's urine to their inner thigh

Xzion,don't you just love how people are so strapped for something to say, they continue to beat a dead horse? I know I sure do.

Heh, you will see after a while that the members of this board that claim to be notorious for “flaming” simply reuse the same 1 or 2 “flames” or insults over and over in a very childish manner. that implies they must browse these message boards simply to feel powerful for putting others down in a manner to relieve some leftover stress from bring picked on middle school

Generally I consider myself a very open minded and non judgmental person, I rarely have any enemies or hold hostility towards anyone, maybe it just reflects upon my general happiness and perspective in which I choose to live by…but honestly, if I can see anyone throw me an insult outside of the bad grammar, spoiled rich boy, or stupid pot smoker fields then I will be damn shocked

Dude, just ignore them. Thats the best way to go about it. They are fucking idiots.

[Noysyrump]

Uhhh, Huhuh. huh. heh. You guys suck.


I'd be the one playing the fury backed plumber tryin to bang pretty elveses.


Thats why i played a gnome with green hair. never a shortage of woodelf companions i might add!~



edit: mispelled elvesesesses.

[Winnow]

Screw your own alt character? wtf?

***NWS***
http://www.mmorgy.com/2005/11/socio_self_screw.php

The feature list for Sociolotron:

Focus on role play. Our staff of volunteers encourages RP and resolves disputes between players by judging their role play among other things

Realistic map of London and the Underground System

Perma death system that allows a character to be eliminated from the world

Graveyards to memorialize the dead

Three stage character hierarchy system that allows players to decide whether they want to play a protected character or take the full risk of perma death

Character Skill development based on Experience Points earned from various professions

Economy system that allows characters to harvest raw materials, produce goods and distribute them.

Player owned houses from single room apartments to big mansions

Player run bars where player can employ other player characters to work as bartender, stripper, life show performer or show fighter

Contagious diseases, illnesses and a health system with drug creation, doctors and the risk of mistreatment

Social ranking system that allows characters to climb on the social ladder or become an underground celebrity

Player run government in each of the 20 districts of London, support for public elections

Justice system where characters can be brought to court for crimes and judged by elected judges and jurors

Investigation system that allows players to to investigate crimes to bring the criminals to justice

Players can run their own newspapers and blackmail government officials or other society members based on rumors about them

Complete cult system that allows players to master one of two different cults and cast magic spells

Cults are based on blood magic or sexual practices

Complete underworld. Dead characters can become demons and go to hell after their death

Demons can be summoned to London to serve their summoner. They can break free and roam London in disguise as Vampires or Succubae

Players can form sects and worship demons in exchange for favors

Characters can have children who take over the characters good in London when the character dies

Complete Sex system that allows players to have Cyber Sex with various postures

Sexual urges that develop according to a characters sexual preferences and influence his behavior later on

Support for bondage, chains and more

A multi level BDSM system that allows for complete role play of dominant or submissive characters, ownership and sexual slavery

Plastic surgery system that allows the description of a character to be altered over time to correct natural alteration from childbirth, lactation or sexual torture

SMS message can be sent to your cellphone or text pager for certain game events when you are offline

[Sargeras]

Some retard tried doing this in WoW? o_0

http://www.mmorgy.com/2006/01/discussio ... t.php#more

This reminds me of the guy from the Euro boards that posted that he wanted an adult-only server where people were open to practice masochistism/S&M on member's of the opposite faction. Judging from his posts, I'd guess he was one of the horniest 13-year-olds alive.[/glow]

[Winnow]

Besides this being a great flame thread, I found an article that fits best in this thread. Always interesting to read up on how the net and RL continue to merge.

...less about looks, more about better sex!

http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0,715 ... =rss.index

Lifelong Effects of Cybersex

By Regina Lynn| Also by this reporter
02:00 AM Aug, 11, 2006

Ten years ago I outlined a script for a porn movie, before I realized how few adult movies actually have scripts. Besides, in my vision, My Life as Aphrodite was an independent erotic film exploring sexual awakening, identity, power, fantasy and healing. Hence, a script.

By now I'm sure my story has been told a thousand times but in 1996, when only 15 percent of American adults were online, it would have been fresh.

The script starred a writer who spent her working days in a huge, shapeless sweatshirt, baggy flannel pants, hair a mess, no makeup, glasses. She dragged herself from her bed to her computer after only a few hours' sleep each night; her skin was pale, her vision blurred from long hours at the computer, and she drank a lot of herbal tea. In other words, she was me six months after quitting a corporate job to freelance full time.

But she was me in another way, too. Because as soon as she opened internet relay chat, everything changed. The computer desk and office clutter disappeared, replaced by a dimly lit bar that was also part coffeehouse and part dungeon. Hot men and sensuous women danced, flirted, touched, had deep and serious conversations, lounged and fucked in all kinds of positions and combinations. The mood was sultry, convivial and a little wistful, as if everyone was making an extra effort to build the mystery because they knew it was temporary.

Now, inside IRC, we see Aphrodite, the same actress as the writer but more beautiful, leaner and less ruled by gravity than she is outside. We hear snatches of banter, the moans and squelches of lusty sex, the occasional pop of a champagne cork or burble of a beer being poured. The camera pans across bodies entwined every which way, then focuses on the bar where Aphrodite presses against HockeyBoy's tongue like an all-day sucker trying to last a week.

Several sexy scenes later, Aphrodite leaves the bar, and the scene fades back into the writer's office where the woman is logging out of IRC. She trudges to the bathroom and we hear the sounds of a woman getting ready for a date -- shower, tooth brushing, mouthwash. This passes quickly and the writer emerges, her regular self but cleaned up, as the doorbell rings. And who marches in the door?

Everyone who was in IRC but without their glamour. These are people who just look like themselves, bellies, stretch marks and all. And the orgy that ensues is the hottest scene in the film. Real people enjoying real sex in their real bodies.

I look back at this now with everything I have experienced and learned and thought since then, and it makes me smile. Because while it's obvious I'm no screenwriter, the questions I wanted to ask in my little film are the ones I am still asking.

How does our online sexual journey influence our offline one? Is it fair to divide the two? Internet experiences are part of our overall sexual development, for sure.

Can attraction between partners in an idealized, imaginary space transcend such mundanities as average bodies and crooked teeth when you meet in person? It has for me, many times.

What do we find within ourselves when we talk about our deepest desires with people we know will welcome and understand them? And who will respond in kind? What do we learn when we look back through years of e-mail, instant-message logs, private photo collections and realize just how much our deepest desires change over time?

If you've read my book, you know what cybersex did for me (and my subsequent partners!). How sad to think that I might have gone my whole life unenthusiastic about blow jobs. And how lucky that I found another path.

Lately I have been wondering how my in-world willingness to play with women might translate offline. The internet can't change your biological sexual orientation -- can you imagine the headlines if it could? -- but it can open you up to greater possibilities, given time.

So far, I have only cybered with women when we were collaborating to turn on the men. A year or two ago, I got a little weirded out playing with Virtually Jenna because it was just the two of us. Then again, thinking about the women I've been physically attracted to in my life, Jenna Jameson is not my type.

But recently, flirting with women in various adult worlds, I have begun to wonder whether this, too, will change. I have always been an equal-opportunity flirt online, but something has shifted; I'm interested in taking it further now, getting more into the specifics.

Playing with avatars has made it easier for me to get into girl sex. Maybe the animation gives me time to work through those "Oh dear, what do I do with this?" moments.

Or maybe I'm just continuing to open up to new possibilities the longer I explore sex online. I used to recoil about fellatio; perhaps with some online practice, I'll eventually embrace pussies the way I now embrace penises. With the same delight, I mean -- I'm sure the techniques will differ.

I wonder how much of the political panic around sex tech is the last great resistance. I wonder whether we are forging a more tolerant, pansexual future that even spending billions of dollars on sexual misinformation campaigns can't stop.

I hope so.

See you next Friday,

Regina Lynn

[Keverian FireCry]

Ok I know you all plan on playing this game, so who is coming to VV Orgy 2007 in Seattle?? Bring your toys!! Send me PMs for info!!



Our theme will be: Cowboy BBQ.

...It makes all the meat taste better. Yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!

[Canelek]

Aren't you vegan though?