Iraq Sniper Video

[Tuddi2]

There must have been a lot of pages missing from every history book written in the last 250 years. I just don't recall Canada being a country when the US began its military. I guess we would be nowhere today if it was not for the greta military machine of the frozen tundra. Thanks!

wow, a crappily written american history book that shows the US as being heroes of the world that every other country depends on? I'd have to see that to believe it!

get over yourselves. you're a bunch of fat bullies that spend more than anyone else on guns. congratulations!

the only country that should be thanking the US for their involvement in WW2 is china. europe was already won by the time you guys woke up to events going on around you. I know that's not what it looks like when you play medal of honor and I'm sure most of you think the war was won by a lone american commando who single handedly killed a hundred thousand nazis, but the war in europe was won by the british and soviets.

but dont you remember the heros in normandy .....

that bravely bravely ran into gun fire.

personally i'd like to call that a stupid fucking move by military intel/command but ya'll can call me crazy now ya hear !

this reminds me of these stories of people beeing pow or hostages in some other manner, or injuring themselves and surviving long enough for help to arrive, and then they get the stamp "hero"

LOL at american media spewing the public with "omg he's an american hero" as they gobble it up like candy and reaffirm their view of their country as the "greatest place on earth"

hahaha i say, hahaha again. best place to live isn't the u.s.

[Tuddi2]

There must have been a lot of pages missing from every history book written in the last 250 years. I just don't recall Canada being a country when the US began its military. I guess we would be nowhere today if it was not for the greta military machine of the frozen tundra. Thanks!

wow, a crappily written american history book that shows the US as being heroes of the world that every other country depends on? I'd have to see that to believe it!

get over yourselves. you're a bunch of fat bullies that spend more than anyone else on guns. congratulations!

the only country that should be thanking the US for their involvement in WW2 is china. europe was already won by the time you guys woke up to events going on around you. I know that's not what it looks like when you play medal of honor and I'm sure most of you think the war was won by a lone american commando who single handedly killed a hundred thousand nazis, but the war in europe was won by the british and soviets.

That is entirely incorrect, the United States was to thank for the successful campaign in Europe. The African campaign would have lasted for at least another 3 years if Eisenhower had not routed Rommel (The Desert Fox and perhaps the most brilliant general in the last 150 years) in the desert. The last 3 decisive battles on European soil were thanks to U.S. forces and the insane amount of resources we devoted to the European campaign. You can talk trash all you want about the United States, but do not think to diminish our involvement in WW2 at all. Granted our current military engagements are sadly a bad idea, but the ones in WW2 were not. The United States were the WINNING determining factor in both the European and Pacific chapters. Now before you get on your soapbox, Canada also did an outstanding job and served as the "go between" guy for US and Europe to help supply the Allied forces in both WW1 and WW2. IF not for Canada being our screen, the supplies we traded would have never made it.

i agree the u.s. were the push needed to win the war.

but out of curiousity, how many british soilders died, how many american soldiers died and how many soviet soldiers died ?

once you find out, dont try and fool yourself with "our troops are just harder to hit"

[Spang]

264,443 british soldiers

292,131 american soldiers

11,000,000 soviet soldiers

the numbers may vary depending on the source.

[Nick]

No way on this fucking Earth more Americans died than British in WW2.

Stop rewriting history.

On topic, since it's now degenerated into the usual OMG AMERICA > CANADA (which only Americans think anyway), this video is no fucking different from the other one that was shown of Iraqi's.

You hypocritical bastards.

[Aslanna]

No way on this fucking Earth more Americans died than British in WW2.

Stop rewriting history.

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/ww2stats.htm

Almost every source says your version of history is incorrect.

(Not counting civilians)

[Zaelath]

No way on this fucking Earth more Americans died than British in WW2.

Stop rewriting history.

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/ww2stats.htm

Almost every source says your version of history is incorrect.

(Not counting civilians)

If you add back 100,000 civilians, the brits are in front on the death tolls again.

You have to factor in the quality of various infantries at the time too; I'm betting the life span of the US infantry was lower than the Brits by a long mark.

[Winnow]

I'm not going to argue over English vs American deaths except to say that Teeny doesn't have a clue when it comes to world history.

Canada lost 37-39K in WWII as well. Considering their population, I'd say both the U.S. and Canada paid their dues.

I can't wait to see the mad rush of Euros (besides the Brits) that come to help defend the United States (and Canada) in a WWIII scenario.

[Tuddi2]

american vs british soldiers .. who cares

11 million soviets ... who did the work here ?

[Nick]

Whereas of course Winnow's refined version of History is second to none in its fairness and balance.

Ah you mean military, in fairness, I concede that fact, although overall deaths puts USA waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay behind (mainly because it sat reaping the benefits of the crisis for several years before it was directly threatened).

On a side note, you may want to take a look into the Bush family links to WW2, it's interesting to say the least.

Oh and Winnow, maybe you're forgetting the support the Europeans showed you after 9/11. That sort of short term memory is exactly why you're seen as a bunch of wankers.

[Winnow]

american vs british soldiers .. who cares

11 million soviets ... who did the work here ?

They did the dying, not sure they did any extra work than the rest of the participants.

[noel]

Since this thread has gone to hell already...

I'm a huge fan of Canada and pretty much totally against Canada bashing, but WWII would never, ever have been won without the US getting involved.

won by who ?

heck if it wouldn't have been a nicer world to live in if the fucking nazi asshats had won the war, that mind you certain U.S. companies were dealing with during the war (Fanta anyone?)

given, there would be no jews etc. but we'd have less problems in the middle east.

and a super power that could bully the U.S. back just as hard.

jk btw

Didn't I already tell you to die and go to hell?

[Tuddi2]

you just may have.

still here, and that's a hint on how much shit i give about what you want.

i'd like to know what you think, and personally enjoy bullshitting about things, sometimes even out of the box so to speak.

if you want to make rules and regulation on what to say and how to say them, let me know, and i'll file it under -stuff noel wants-, so you have an idea where that's going.

[Tuddi2]

american vs british soldiers .. who cares

11 million soviets ... who did the work here ?

They did the dying, not sure they did any extra work than the rest of the participants.

just to recap.

1) an american soldier dies = he gave his live so we could live in a better world

2) a soviet soldier dies = he got hit by a stray bullet, tough luck.

[noel]

You have to be the most irrelevant idiot ever to post on this board.

[Winnow]

american vs british soldiers .. who cares

11 million soviets ... who did the work here ?

They did the dying, not sure they did any extra work than the rest of the participants.

just to recap.

1) an american soldier dies = he gave his live so we could live in a better world

2) a soviet soldier dies = he got hit by a stray bullet, tough luck.

First off, I acknowledge that you're a troll, possibly a dupe of an exising VVer. If so, it's a good thing you made a second account as you haven't had a decent post yet.

Deaths don't directly relate to level of contribution in a war. Go tell the Spartans that.

Russians killed their own troops.

We now know that in the first winter of the war on the Eastern Front in 1941-42, more than 8,000 Russian soldiers died not in action but shot by their own army for cowardice or desertion. During the battle of Stalingrad alone, another 12,000 men of the Red Army were put to death pour encourager les autres. This was a regime fighting a desperate war that could nevertheless put to death well over a full infantry division of its own men

[Nick]

NICE HISTORY KNOWLEDGE WINNOW OFC IT WAS ONLY THE RUSKIES DOING THAT LOL THOSE CRAZY RUSKIES


Weren't you advocating Americans do the same last year?

[Tuddi2]

You have to be the most irrelevant idiot ever to post on this board.

i never resort to name calling, given your reputation i'd have thought you wouldn't either unless you knew something more about me then you in fact do.

you fail to deliver :/

and i'm not irrelevant, any more then you are, or do you think yourself better then others beforehand by choice and then the jury can come in years after to deem you wrong at which time you'll silently agree and hope noone notices.

think outside the box noel, it becomes intelligent americans more so then others imo.

[Tuddi2]

american vs british soldiers .. who cares

11 million soviets ... who did the work here ?

They did the dying, not sure they did any extra work than the rest of the participants.

just to recap.

1) an american soldier dies = he gave his live so we could live in a better world

2) a soviet soldier dies = he got hit by a stray bullet, tough luck.

First off, I acknowledge that you're a troll, possibly a dupe of an exising VVer. If so, it's a good thing you made a second account as you haven't had a decent post yet.

Deaths don't directly relate to level of contribution in a war. Go tell the Spartans that.

Russians killed their own troops.

We now know that in the first winter of the war on the Eastern Front in 1941-42, more than 8,000 Russian soldiers died not in action but shot by their own army for cowardice or desertion. During the battle of Stalingrad alone, another 12,000 men of the Red Army were put to death pour encourager les autres. This was a regime fighting a desperate war that could nevertheless put to death well over a full infantry division of its own men

you bore me sir, and i think little of your take on things.

if you take up rockclimbing, be sure to secure your point on something more solid then small tidbits such as "one infantry division", when comparing it to 11 million men.

and let me just say i'd bet good money your view on number of deaths correlation with contribution to a war effort would change something serious if the nationality of said deaths had any chance of beeing related to you and yours.

you SAH, are a hypocrite.


ps. i think once you have thrown out your vv-epeen and gotten a semi forum recognition of it, anyone you dont know of, will never ever have a chance of changing your mind on anything even if at any point (which of course you never are) you are wrong.
not to say i'm right or make a good point, but beeing a long time reader recent poster i'm pretty firm on that.

i had an account some years back, forgot the username/pw and just made another. i was noone you'd remember, i didn't post much.

[Wonko Wenusberg]

The Russkie's army was very inhumane but in a way effective in movement compared to the Allied front coming from the west using artillery for everything to secure the path for their troops.
From being killed as a deserter or for being a coward their other choice was to be put in a "penalty platoon" and zerg rush in the front poorly equipped. Spasiba!

[Winnow]

if you take up rockclimbing, be sure to secure your point on something more solid then small tidbits such as "one infantry division", when comparing it to 11 million men.

Should I have tried to estimate the number or Russians killed with just a clip of bullets in their hand waiting for the solider ahead of them to die so they would have a rifle to at least attempt to shoot into the mist ahead of them?

and let me just say i'd bet good money your view on number of deaths correlation with contribution to a war effort would change something serious if the nationality of said deaths had any chance of beeing related to you and yours.

What is it with you and the number of dead mattering as a direct relation to fighting effectiveness? If the number killed is all that mattered, the Jews really kicked ass in WWII.

[Tuddi2]

and the floor just fell from under you....

along with any kind of sense.

[Nick]

Tuddi ftw~

[Winnow]

Having something to say instead of plugging in quips and nothing else would be nice.

[noel]

You have to be the most irrelevant idiot ever to post on this board.

i never resort to name calling, given your reputation i'd have thought you wouldn't either unless you knew something more about me then you in fact do.

you fail to deliver :/

and i'm not irrelevant, any more then you are, or do you think yourself better then others beforehand by choice and then the jury can come in years after to deem you wrong at which time you'll silently agree and hope noone notices.

think outside the box noel, it becomes intelligent americans more so then others imo.

Yes, I'm better than you. I wasn't going to flat out say it, but since you brought it up, there it is.

As far as my reputation goes... LOL. Do your worst. I have absolutely nothing to hide. My reputation is at least good enough to post with my real name and not be some anonymous gimp. We used to ban trash like you around here. Maybe we will again soon.

[Spang]

what makes you better than anyone on these boards?

[Tuddi2]

words stolen from my mouth spang.

and since you're so much better then me, that you feel no need to read or understand my point, your reputation on these boards from my point of view was a good one.

within the boundaries of intellect, you have no manners nor a sense of CHI or what ever when it comes to realizing you've been proven wrong.

but aside from that you're i'm pretty sure considered above mediocre intelligent, unlike some (cartalas as an example)

real name, eh .. these are forums, as far as you are concerned my name is Tuddi, period.
how that affects others should in no way differ from people knowing my real name.

but just to amuse you, my name is Egill.

We used to ban trash like you around here. Maybe we will again soon.

buddy, if you feel you're in some secret cliche of behind the scenes controllers of the world or whathaveyou, get a grip.

this is a forum, people register, someone manages the boards.
that's it, unless there is some super goverment conspiracy to give forum mods a million dollars a week to stay cool, you're about as gimp as i am.

christ....

[Cartalas]

words stolen from my mouth spang.

and since you're so much better then me, that you feel no need to read or understand my point, your reputation on these boards from my point of view was a good one.

within the boundaries of intellect, you have no manners nor a sense of CHI or what ever when it comes to realizing you've been proven wrong.

but aside from that you're i'm pretty sure considered above mediocre intelligent, unlike some (cartalas as an example)

real name, eh .. these are forums, as far as you are concerned my name is Tuddi, period.
how that affects others should in no way differ from people knowing my real name.

but just to amuse you, my name is Egill. And I like Cock!!!

We used to ban trash like you around here. Maybe we will again soon.

buddy, if you feel you're in some secret cliche of behind the scenes controllers of the world or whathaveyou, get a grip.

this is a forum, people register, someone manages the boards.
that's it, unless there is some super goverment conspiracy to give forum mods a million dollars a week to stay cool, you're about as gimp as i am.

christ....

Really?

[Forthe]

Russia did pay the biggest price for WWII by far, there isn't much doubt about that.

But who killed more germans? I would be surprised if it wasn't also Russia as Germany had to move a lot of shit around from the west front to the east but I do not recall ever seeing any numbers.