Street Cred

Waran · Post by **Waran** » December 15, 2005, 4:05 pm

I've seen like 3 damn threads in this forum alone all having to do with the term "Street Cred." I just like saying it, Street Cred, it's catchy!

So with that, which person exemplifies the term "Street Cred" to you?

Kwonryu DragonFist · December 15, 2005, 4:28 pm

"street cred" LOL!

Arborealus · Post by **Arborealus** » December 15, 2005, 4:35 pm

masteen · Post by **masteen** » December 15, 2005, 4:36 pm

Tyrone Biggums gots more rep on the streets than any of those bitches.

miir · Post by **miir** » December 15, 2005, 4:47 pm

Where the fuck is Ali G on that list?

Leonaerd · Post by **Leonaerd** » December 15, 2005, 5:12 pm

Chuck Norris is missing, too. And we could use a Vin Diesel.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 15, 2005, 5:16 pm

Millie Vanilli

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » December 15, 2005, 5:27 pm

considering I wouldn't know anything about any but two of those bizarre collection of letters we'll call names (and that's only because one was shot repeatedly and the other recently killed), I go with

D. NOTA

Waran · Post by **Waran** » December 15, 2005, 5:47 pm

Moderators feel free to add new entries to the "Street Cred" poll. Any of the people suggested in this thread may be added

I was a kung fu chop away from adding Chuck Norris too, damn.

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » December 15, 2005, 10:09 pm

Chuck Norris invented street cred and the street that street cred is based on.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » December 15, 2005, 11:55 pm

miir wrote:Where the fuck is Ali G on that list?

Thought that was Al Gore when I first read it

Gonzoie - Luclin · Post by **Gonzoie - Luclin** » December 16, 2005, 12:08 am

Street Cred!

Leonaerd · Post by **Leonaerd** » December 16, 2005, 12:51 am

Sionistic wrote:Chuck Norris invented street cred and the street that street cred is based on.

Lmao... that would work great on one of those Vin Diesel fact generator thingies.

Post by **Sylvus** » December 16, 2005, 1:40 am

I'm going to pistol-whip the next person who calls the Chuck Norris site a Vin Diesel one.

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » December 16, 2005, 2:00 am

Shenanigans!

Leonaerd · Post by **Leonaerd** » December 16, 2005, 2:51 am

I'm going to pistol-whip the next person who calls the Chuck Norris site a Vin Diesel one.

I refer to it in such a way in order to pay homage to the original.

Arborealus · Post by **Arborealus** » December 16, 2005, 1:14 pm

Drinsic Darkwood wrote:Shenanigans!

Eeeeeeeeevil Shenanigans!

Dexail · Post by **Dexail** » December 16, 2005, 4:15 pm

which make them not really shenanigans at all....

Midnyte_Ragebringer · December 16, 2005, 5:13 pm

Paul McCartney.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » December 16, 2005, 11:14 pm

I think I just found humor in a Midnyte post. wtf?

Back to the thread:

Street cred is for faggorts and women and children are the only people that enjoy jewelry.

Kargyle · Post by **Kargyle** » December 17, 2005, 5:40 pm

What's the name of the restraunt you like to eat at?

StupidMcDupid · Post by **StupidMcDupid** » December 17, 2005, 7:34 pm

Chamillionaire would wreck all those hoes.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » December 18, 2005, 5:24 am

that no talent fucking waste of a record deal? YAY HOMIE WORD UP I GOTZ MILLIONZ AND SHIT! ROCK DA ICE CHAMILLIONARE STYLE! ROB THE JEWERY STORE TELL THEM MAKE ME A GRILL

seriously, rapping about ice and money is so fucking old. probably since 1996, but since you were about 8 (maybe 9!) i would expect you to like this shit.

StupidMcDupid · Post by **StupidMcDupid** » December 18, 2005, 12:32 pm

Zamtuk wrote:that no talent fucking waste of a record deal? YAY HOMIE WORD UP I GOTZ MILLIONZ AND SHIT! ROCK DA ICE CHAMILLIONARE STYLE! ROB THE JEWERY STORE TELL THEM MAKE ME A GRILL

seriously, rapping about ice and money is so fucking old. probably since 1996, but since you were about 8 (maybe 9!) i would expect you to like this shit.

FYI, That's not chamillionaire's song, it's nelly's song featuring paul wall, so get your facts straight.Chamillionaire is unlike the other fags out of H-Town who rap about making grillz and all, he raps about rap.I bet you haven't even heard his CD to be calling him a "no talent fucking waste of a record deal".But once you do hear it, you understand what he's trying to bring back, and that is rap.He has some interesting songs in the CD too, even people that hate rap, told me they liked what he had to say in "The Sound of Revenge". And the CD went gold, so you still think he's a "waste of a record deal"?

Tyek · Post by **Tyek** » December 18, 2005, 7:34 pm

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » December 19, 2005, 3:43 am

Who cares what anyone on this board thinks anyhow.

I get sick of people who think "bands" like greenday are good music and havent listened to rap since the sugarhill gang telling me what rap is about anyways.

Would be like me trying to be a know it all about modern rock, I know nothing about it besides its pretty much all beyond garbage.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · December 19, 2005, 10:51 am

Funkmasterr wrote:Who cares what anyone on this board thinks anyhow.

I get sick of people who think "bands" like greenday are good music and havent listened to rap since the sugarhill gang telling me what rap is about anyways.

Would be like me trying to be a know it all about modern rock, I know nothing about it besides its pretty much all beyond garbage.

Bands like Greenday are actual music. The rap you listen to is something else....something other than music.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » December 19, 2005, 11:13 am

Middle class white boys from the suburbs and business executives discussing "street cred" in a serious way are great for a laugh. Take your Audi and go hang out in Long Beach, the South side of Oakland or large areas of downtown St. Louis for a bit. If you're lucky you won't get shot, it's a decent bet you won't have the car anymore. I'm sure there's worse places, I've got first hand experience with those though.

The very people these kids look up to as being authentic would have whooped thier ass and stolen mommy's Lexus without a second thought while they were in the proccess of becoming qualified.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · December 19, 2005, 11:25 am

Aabidano wrote:Middle class white boys from the suburbs and business executives discussing "street cred" in a serious way are great for a laugh. Take your Audi and go hang out in Long Beach, the South side of Oakland or large areas of downtown St. Louis for a bit. If you're lucky you won't get shot, it's a decent bet you won't have the car anymore. I'm sure there's worse places, I've got first hand experience with those though.

The very people these kids look up to as being authentic would have whooped thier ass and stolen mommy's Lexus without a second thought while they were in the proccess of becoming qualified.

Preach on Brother Aabi.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » December 19, 2005, 12:15 pm

Aabidano wrote:Middle class white boys from the suburbs and business executives discussing "street cred" in a serious way are great for a laugh. Take your Audi and go hang out in Long Beach, the South side of Oakland or large areas of downtown St. Louis for a bit. If you're lucky you won't get shot, it's a decent bet you won't have the car anymore. I'm sure there's worse places, I've got first hand experience with those though.

The very people these kids look up to as being authentic would have whooped thier ass and stolen mommy's Lexus without a second thought while they were in the proccess of becoming qualified.

Im getting real sick of this topic, and pretty much anyone besides myself that has posted on it, but I will one more time because this comment fucking pissed me off.

First off, you don't know me. You can make all the assumptions you want of the stereotypes that might suit me, but you don't know a goddamn thing. I could show anyone that actually does know me (including Mia, for that matter) drop by the forums and look at your post, and they would laugh really, really hard.

There are bad neighborhoods in Minneapolis too, just in case you were wondering.. But all of you people on these forums know everything and are so fucking clever in pointing it out that im sure you already knew that. No, these neighborhoods pale im comparison to taking a ride through south central LA, the southside of chicago... or say.... the bronx?

Ive spent more time in the bad areas doing bad shit then I would guess most people on this site? Am I bragging, no im not. Im making a point, I used to sell weed/ex mostly, and did the majority of my business in northeast minneapolis. I had guns pointed at me more than once, and have seen more than I could count if I wanted to. The one thing I did have was respect. The people around there got to know me, not as some tough gangster or something, but as someone they could trust (white people arent exactly trusted in bad neighborhoods, im sure you already knew that too) and someone that had street smarts and could carry themselves in shitty situations.

I don't know what it was that made me want to start doing this shit, but I did. No, sitting at someones dinner table while they stuff coke into a straw and cut the straw into pieces, and also are talking about someone they shot and laughing about it and mocking the way he fell and the expression on his face IS NOT something to be proud of.
Its not something that should happen, its not something you want to be around, but I was all the same.(this was in brooklyn in bedford styveson projects actually- talk to someone that lives in new york and knows the area and see what they say about that neighborhood)

I have gotten the shit beat out of me far more than once, and have won more than my share of fights, I have seen some things that I think I may have been better off not seeing, but this is the life some people have to wake up and face everyday, and some people , like myself choose for whatever reason that they want to get sucked into it.

I have also spent a fair amount of time in the projects in the Bronx, I have walked around there, gone to the store, gone to get food or whatever else by myself in the middle of the night more than once. See, the difference is I dont act scared, even if I see a bad situation possibly arising, I am calm and look for the quickest way out of it. Thats where a lot of people go wrong, if for whatever reason they are in a bad neighborhood like this, they are scared shitless and it shows, and people can see that and use it to their advantage..

Anyways, this post got a lot longer then I meant it to be. The point is I am not a gangster or anything like that, but I am by NO MEANS the pussy little white kid you tried to say I am , that talks big but would shit all over himself if trouble came knocking.. I could, like I said.. have any number of people come and post here in my defense.. and I mean people from the bronx, and minneapolis, and my girlfriend who has been along for some of this, but none of you worthless fuckstains on this site are worth my effort , and I feel no need to spend that kind of energy to prove something to you that I know goddamn well is true.

So believe what you want and say what you want about me after this post, I really dont care, like I said- I know the truth. But do yourself a favor and dont open your fucking mouth and point this un educated fucking bullshit at me again, you havent the slightest fucking clue what you are talking about asshole.

Oh p.s. ... I have been in bad neighborhoods in St. Louis , and the worst of them are definately not down town... Try heading out of the city down the highway that 6 flags is on, and crossing over a bridge north maybe a few miles past the park - and you'll come to some real bad neighborhoods.. (I happened to get lost and find them on accident..) But again, I bet you knew this already.....

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » December 19, 2005, 1:02 pm

oh crap, he has street cred

Tyek · Post by **Tyek** » December 19, 2005, 1:13 pm

Yeah and I went to school in a really bad neighborhood as well. Got shot at for having a blue truck in Sintown (a blood area) I had guns pointed at me too, and other shit, big fucking deal. The reason people make fun of you is that you take rap so very fucking seriously. You act like the crap you hear in the magazies and on the street means anything.

Who cares what anyone on this board thinks anyhow

Then you give a long dissertation on why we should listen to your shit.

You expect us to respect your musical choice, then proceed to rip on other peoples preferences. You sir are not the only person on this site that knows everything. Kyoukan is, not you.

The fact that this shit bugs you so much makes it fun for others to mess with you more, do you not get that? Sorry to give away the punchline, but if you had just laughed it off the issue would have been over.

To use your example, If you said they loved Green Day, then a fan came on the board and said, "yeah well they are not cool because blah blah blah. My friend, who knows people on the street told me Blink 182 really kicked their ass on the street and now no one respects them..." See how moronic it sounds.

I am glad you enjoy rap. I enjoy some of it too. Some sucks, just like it was in 1982, 1992, 2002 and will be in 2112. The fact that it is such a major part of your life is scary man. I own thousands of CD's, I collect music and I enjoy it, but you have taken it way to far.

Have a great day, oh and those people did not respect you by the way, you provided a service they needed, be it money or drugs. If that area was as tough as you say, the moment you became useless to them was the moment they would have laughed about how you fell when they shot you.

miir · Post by **miir** » December 19, 2005, 1:59 pm

FYI, That's not chamillionaire's song, it's nelly's song featuring paul wall, so get your facts straight.Chamillionaire is unlike the other fags out of H-Town who rap about making grillz and all, he raps about rap.

That's the difference between real music and rap.

Music is not a competition.
Since musical taste is purely subjective the only real way to measure is success is by the number of units sold.
And let me tell you, there are some pretty crappy musicians who sell a lot of albums.

So who's to say if 'Chamillionaire' is better than any of those other fags? Mike Jones sold a lot of records... probably more than chamillionaire, so does that mean mike jones is less of a fag than say Pall Wall or Slim Thug?

I personally think all of it isn't very good music. Their rhymes are mediocre and the production is poor... but that's just my opinion. I see rap as more of a performance art anyway. Most of these guys are just acting or playing a role in front of a mic.

It just so happens that some of these artists can hit on the 'sweet spot' with the youth. The majority of their audience is comprised of kids with short attention spans who buy into the whole 'rap lifestyle'. Their music has no longevity or staying power as it has no substance.

The average career of a rap superstar is less than 5 years. Rap is this generations 'throwaway' pop music. I wonder if kids in the 80's had arguments about Debbie Gibson having more street cred than Tiffany.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · December 19, 2005, 2:14 pm

miir wrote:
FYI, That's not chamillionaire's song, it's nelly's song featuring paul wall, so get your facts straight.Chamillionaire is unlike the other fags out of H-Town who rap about making grillz and all, he raps about rap.
That's the difference between real music and rap.

Music is not a competition.
Since musical taste is purely subjective the only real way to measure is success is by the number of units sold.
And let me tell you, there are some pretty crappy musicians who sell a lot of albums.

So who's to say if 'Chamillionaire' is better than any of those other fags? Mike Jones sold a lot of records... probably more than chamillionaire, so does that mean mike jones is less of a fag than say Pall Wall or Slim Thug?

I personally think all of it isn't very good music. Their rhymes are mediocre and the production is poor... but that's just my opinion. I see rap as more of a performance art anyway. Most of these guys are just acting or playing a role in front of a mic.

It just so happens that some of these artists can hit on the 'sweet spot' with the youth. The majority of their audience is comprised of kids with short attention spans who buy into the whole 'rap lifestyle'. Their music has no longevity or staying power as it has no substance.

The average career of a rap superstar is less than 5 years. Rap is this generations 'throwaway' pop music. I wonder if kids in the 80's had arguments about Debbie Gibson having more street cred than Tiffany.

w3rd.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » December 19, 2005, 2:50 pm

miir wrote:
FYI, That's not chamillionaire's song, it's nelly's song featuring paul wall, so get your facts straight.Chamillionaire is unlike the other fags out of H-Town who rap about making grillz and all, he raps about rap.
That's the difference between real music and rap.

Music is not a competition.
Since musical taste is purely subjective the only real way to measure is success is by the number of units sold.
And let me tell you, there are some pretty crappy musicians who sell a lot of albums.

So who's to say if 'Chamillionaire' is better than any of those other fags? Mike Jones sold a lot of records... probably more than chamillionaire, so does that mean mike jones is less of a fag than say Pall Wall or Slim Thug?

I personally think all of it isn't very good music. Their rhymes are mediocre and the production is poor... but that's just my opinion. I see rap as more of a performance art anyway. Most of these guys are just acting or playing a role in front of a mic.

It just so happens that some of these artists can hit on the 'sweet spot' with the youth. The majority of their audience is comprised of kids with short attention spans who buy into the whole 'rap lifestyle'. Their music has no longevity or staying power as it has no substance.

The average career of a rap superstar is less than 5 years. Rap is this generations 'throwaway' pop music. I wonder if kids in the 80's had arguments about Debbie Gibson having more street cred than Tiffany.

Miir, im not gonna beat a dead horse on what ive been saying about most of your post, but the one thing I do want to point out is that rap music has been around since the late 70s, early 80s. Yes it has evolved quite a bit, and was no where near as widely accepted as it is now, but it has been around for quite some time with no visible decline in the near future.

There are dozens of artists that have had much more than a 5 year career in rap, and if you really do know rap you would know that, and wouldnt have made such a misinformed comment..

Dr. Dre
Snoop Dogg
Warren G
Jay Z
Mobb Deep
Rakim
Scarface/Geto Boys
The Lox
Nas
Outkast
Bone Thugs N Harmony
Too short
Goodie Mob
Mase
Wu tang clan
Puffy
Fat Joe
South Central Cartel
Public Enemy

Are just some that I can think of off the top of my head without even looking at my cd's. Anyone on that list has been around for nearly ten years, or longer.

And Tyek, the difference between when I rip on something and when the people that are getting on my nerves do, is that I'll make a comment and move on.

I had said my piece and was going to drop it, then over the next few days two or three more posts get made or added on to ridiculing me-- not that it means to much to me, but it pisses me off that some of these people prize themselves so much on being able to construct an insult that sounds witty on a message board that it makes me sick.

Matter of fact, the better part of the people posting on the threads im talking about just plain make me sick period.

Thats the difference.

miir · Post by **miir** » December 19, 2005, 3:26 pm

but the one thing I do want to point out is that rap music has been around since the late 70s, early 80s.

Thank's for the newsflash.
And being that I am considerably older than you, and was working in a record shop (that sold actual vinyl records) when rap was still very deep underground, I have fisthand knowledge of it. I was listening to Melle Mel preach his message when you were shitting your pampers. Hell, I remember buying Kool Herc 12" singles... and shooting hoops blasting Whodini's 5 Minutes of Funk on the ghetto blaster... that was in the mid 80's... 84 i think.
You were what... 1 year old at the time?

I remember when Scott Larock was shot.. and KRS one started his stop the violence crusade. I had an original white label of Self Destruction.

That was back when street cred actually meant something.
These days it's just big business.
Rap (for the most part) is disposable pop music anymore.

There are dozens of artists that have had much more than a 5 year career in rap, and if you really do know rap you would know that, and wouldnt have made such a misinformed comment..

Ok, so taking your 'dozens' of examples and averaging them out with the THOUSANDS of other rap artists who were 1 or 2 hit wonders, I think we can safely say:

miir wrote:The average career of a rap superstar is less than 5 years.

So if you really know the english languange and uderstand what the word average means, you wouldn't have made such a misinformed comment.

Mase

Uhhh, he had 1 hit 7-8 years ago, released a followup that sold shit then retired for 5-6 years... not sure how that can be considered a 5+ year career.

I could go through the rest of your list but the point is that the majority of pop-rap music has an incredibly short shelf-life. You can't honestly dispute that fact.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » December 20, 2005, 11:10 am

Rap was about the 'art' and 'music' when it arrived as a somewhat-spawn of Herbie Hancock, Donald Byrd, etc (not naming founders, just working with the trend, although Byrd may have been a founder...hell, I dunno). Anyways, rap lost its soul quite a few years ago and is now primarily around due to white kids and lowered Hondas. It is just pop music.

Now, I know this may make some folks angry, but there is no need to run down to your closest gun store and buy the ever-popular Glok...just relax and understand that you are wearing a basketball jersey and perhaps a gold chain and/or bandana, thus making you subject to assfunnery.

Burke · Post by **Burke** » December 20, 2005, 4:31 pm

Rap nerds are hilarious.

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