Batman Begins

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » June 25, 2005, 10:15 pm

Couldn't agree more about Katie Holmes. I thought she added nothing. She didn't captivate me at all. Usually the woman in these type of movies always makes me want them badly in ways beyond sexually....she did none of that for me.

Easily the best Batman movie. I agree.

The line up top about Leam playing the same role from Star Wars, Qui Gon, is fucking funny as hell now after seeing the movie.

noel · Post by **noel** » June 26, 2005, 1:35 am

I missed it if it happened, but if someone is cracking Liam for his performance, they're on crack. I leaned over to my buddy when I was watching it and said, "much better than that faggy Jedi role."

Fash · Post by **Fash** » June 26, 2005, 1:41 am

they were both very confident with their characters, and it came together very well.... good news, it keeps the box office #1 slot over bewitched this weekend.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » June 26, 2005, 11:59 am

noel wrote:I missed it if it happened, but if someone is cracking Liam for his performance, they're on crack. I leaned over to my buddy when I was watching it and said, "much better than that faggy Jedi role."

No doubt man. Liam roles as both were great. Just funny how the last 2 roles I remember him having were both as mentors of good guys fighting against evil.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » September 25, 2005, 2:01 am

I just read that they are trying to cast for the joker for the sequel. Only this time he wont have makeup on, but be totally insane and have a maniacal laughter.

Gonzoie - Luclin · Post by **Gonzoie - Luclin** » September 25, 2005, 2:37 am

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468569/

Gonzoie - Luclin · Post by **Gonzoie - Luclin** » October 10, 2005, 1:39 am

comes out to DVD on the 18th.

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » November 8, 2005, 1:33 pm

Since I don't get to actually go out much due to have 2 small kids, I just picked this up on DVD last week. All I can say is that it is hands down the best Batman yet. My son was Batman for Halloween and we got this the week before (I skip a few of the scenes since he is only 3) but we are both hooked...

While it was violent, did you notice that there wasn't any blood? I almost didn't... but it shows that you don't have to have it to get the effect across. Very well done and the acting was great.

Liam Neeson did a wonderful job as well, very real, i.e. what Qui-Gon could have been if someone else directed SW

Don't get me wrong, I thanks Lucas for the series but his perchance for cheese is sometimes insulting. Gary Oldman is one of my favorite actor.

Bayle is Batman, can't wait for the next one!

Marb

edit-- damn, could I have any more grammatical errors in the above post?!?

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » November 8, 2005, 2:12 pm

I just saw this last weekend. Was a fantastic movie.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » November 27, 2005, 9:02 pm

Got around to seeing this finally. Excellent stuff, the other ones pale in comparison. Reaffirms my belief that Batman is the only mainstream DC comic character I can stomach.

noel · Post by **noel** » November 27, 2005, 11:58 pm

Marbus wrote:Gary Oldman is one of my favorite actor.

Glad you touched on that. How fucking spot on was Oldman's rendition of commisioner Gordon. Oldman is an underrated actor with an incredible range. I'd put him in the same class as Clooney and Spacey.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » November 28, 2005, 12:05 am

noel wrote:
Marbus wrote:Gary Oldman is one of my favorite actor.
Glad you touched on that. How fucking spot on was Oldman's rendition of commisioner Gordon. Oldman is an underrated actor with an incredible range. I'd put him in the same class as Clooney and Spacey.

Better than Spacey and Clooney doesn't even rate a favourable fucking mention

He's very charismatic, but he always plays a southerner with an education, except in O Brother, in which he was a southern grifter.

It's like Mark Wahlberg... I really enjoy his movies, but I don't think it has much to do with him being the world's greatest actor.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 28, 2005, 12:38 am

My favorie Batman is the one with the Clueless chick as the overweight Batgirl and the scene where everyone lights up in neon glowing colors as if a huge black light was turned on.

"Suit me up Alfred!"

Kwonryu DragonFist · November 28, 2005, 12:58 am

Winnow wrote:My favorie Batman is the one with the Clueless chick as the overweight Batgirl and the scene where everyone lights up in neon glowing colors as if a huge black light was turned on.

"Suit me up Alfred!"

LOL! Well Arnold played Mr Freeze so it sure had its moments!

Generally, Batman movies are kidmovies imho, but the Batman Begins one was decent for an older audience as well.

And it had ninjas.

Leonaerd · Post by **Leonaerd** » November 28, 2005, 1:34 am

Ninjas are key to the success of any movie, especially one without sex scenes.

noel · Post by **noel** » November 28, 2005, 1:59 am

Zaelath wrote:Better than Spacey and Clooney doesn't even rate a favourable fucking mention He's very charismatic, but he always plays a southerner with an education, except in O Brother, in which he was a southern grifter.

Are you just posting to disagree with me, or have you actually seen any other movies that Clooney has been in?

Intolerable Cruelty - Miles Massey
Ocean's Eleven - Danny Ocean
Three Kings - Maj. Archie Gates
The Thin Red Line - Captain Charles Bosche
Out of Sight - Jack Foley

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » November 28, 2005, 3:06 am

I've seen quite a few of his movies, and I enjoyed all of them (couldn't stand ER though), I just think he's mostly playing George Clooney.

Oldman is a character actor, he's nearly unrecognisable as the same actor between movies and sometimes within them (Dracula; sure there's a lot of makeup going on there, but you get where I'm going.. I hope)

George just seems "like" a lot of the people he portrays, affable, humerous, etc.

You could look at Hugh Laurie (surprisingly) as well for someone that is utterly unlike the character he portrays on "House".

I imagine George gets offered a lot of roles, and he's fantastically good at selecting the right ones, which (I think) makes him look a lot better as an actor than he really is.

Anyway, it's just opinion, but I thought I'd expand on it a little to explain that I'm not just a nay-saying bastard

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Nilaman · Post by **Nilaman** » November 28, 2005, 11:30 am

I never saw this movie until last night, when I bought the DVD. It is by far the best Batman movie that I have ever seen.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » November 29, 2005, 6:21 am

Oldman is a character actor, he's nearly unrecognisable as the same actor between movies and sometimes within them (Dracula; sure there's a lot of makeup going on there, but you get where I'm going.. I hope)

Uhhh, Immortal Beloved? Damn man, that is just one example. Oldman is a damn terrific actor. Saying he is a character actor is like comparing him to Don Knotts.

Cotto · Post by **Cotto** » November 29, 2005, 7:26 am

Anyone able to clear up something about Liam Neason's character in this film. Okay, Ra is supposed to be immortal, stab him in the chest, he gets mildly annoyed you ruined his shirt, type of thing, or is he immortal in a sort of One name-Many Men since Ages Past, way?

Kwonryu DragonFist · November 29, 2005, 9:39 am

Zaelath wrote:I've seen quite a few of his movies, and I enjoyed all of them (couldn't stand ER though), I just think he's mostly playing George Clooney.

Oldman is a character actor, he's nearly unrecognisable as the same actor between movies and sometimes within them (Dracula; sure there's a lot of makeup going on there, but you get where I'm going.. I hope)

George just seems "like" a lot of the people he portrays, affable, humerous, etc.

You could look at Hugh Laurie (surprisingly) as well for someone that is utterly unlike the character he portrays on "House".

I imagine George gets offered a lot of roles, and he's fantastically good at selecting the right ones, which (I think) makes him look a lot better as an actor than he really is.

Anyway, it's just opinion, but I thought I'd expand on it a little to explain that I'm not just a nay-saying bastard

Yeh! The best actors are those who can play VERY different types of roles, and make it look good and credible.

We're talkin very different kinds of characters (young, old, different socialclasses, behaviors etc) and in different genres like once being in a comedy, another time in a horrormovie, then in a drama and finally playing the lead in an actionmovie AND being credible in all roles!

Now THAT's a real actor!

I agree with Z saying that George C mainly plays "himself".

He can play a Major or Batman, he is just himself, too similar.

Same with Keanu reeves, he is playing Keanu Reeves in all movies.

Constantine could be Neo who could be the Johnny Mnemonic etc

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » November 29, 2005, 10:46 am

Cotto wrote:Anyone able to clear up something about Liam Neason's character in this film. Okay, Ra is supposed to be immortal, stab him in the chest, he gets mildly annoyed you ruined his shirt, type of thing, or is he immortal in a sort of One name-Many Men since Ages Past, way?

Ra's is not immortal. But he have knowledge of certain Lazarus pits, which can wake the dead, or make an old man young again. The downside from using these are that the user suffer from momentary sanity loss, and super strenght for a while after a ressurection.

Ra's is, unlike most of batmans villains, NOT centered on Gotham City, and he only bump into Batman occasionally. In the official Batman lore, Ra's had nothing to do with Batmans training, and didnt bump into him before his daughter Talia fell in love with him, and Ra's spend some time finding out that Batman was Bruce Wayne, and tried to get him to marry Talia and become his heir.
Ra's have a much greater goal than crime, or getting rid of Batman, but preserving the ecological balance, which in his eyes are done by genocide.

'You can read more about Ra's here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ras_Al_Ghul

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » November 29, 2005, 12:38 pm

Thanks for the Ra info!

In regards to Oldman I think he is one of the best actors of our time. He can play anything. He was so real in Batman as the considerate almost loving policeman, sgt then Lt and was equally crazy in HP:PoA, great as dracula and totally believable as every evil guy he usually plays...

Some of my other favorites whom I think are under rated:
Gabriel Byrne
Alan Rickman (though not so under rated anymore)
Jeremy Irons
John Malkovich
Ewan McGregor (again, not so much under rated anymore)

In almost every movie I have seen these guys have done a fanstic job. Rickman's performance in the original Die Hard was what made that movie for me. Ewan and Ian were the best parts of Episode III (and would have been even better if he hadn't done the Bruce Lee thing before he fought Grevious - I'm sure that was Lucas) Heh, from reading the list you can see that "The man in the Iron Mask" could have been one of my favorite movies, if only someone else could have been the king... but it's still tolerable due to the french guy talking about nipples

Cheers!
Marb

Kwonryu DragonFist · November 29, 2005, 12:50 pm

Marbus wrote: Ewan and Ian were the best parts of Episode III (and would have been even better if he hadn't done the Bruce Lee thing before he fought Grevious - I'm sure that was Lucas)

What Bruce Lee thing Marb?

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » November 29, 2005, 9:31 pm

Canelek wrote:
Oldman is a character actor, he's nearly unrecognisable as the same actor between movies and sometimes within them (Dracula; sure there's a lot of makeup going on there, but you get where I'm going.. I hope)

Uhhh, Immortal Beloved? Damn man, that is just one example. Oldman is a damn terrific actor. Saying he is a character actor is like comparing him to Don Knotts.

He's no sidekick; if the definition of character actor is "an actor who specializes in playing supporting roles" then it's mostly true since he gets cast as evil characters so often which are rarely the "star" of the film. It becomes somewhat laughable though if you consider that Keanu is the star of Dracula but Oldman is the character you remember.

That said, what I mostly meant was that Gary plays characters as opposed to a lot of "actors" that play themselves in movies; lots of women come to mind here.. like Jennifer Aniston, but Hugh Grant would be another great example.

noel · Post by **noel** » November 29, 2005, 9:48 pm

Clooney should be playing something a bit different in the upcoming (I personally can't wait) Syriana. Based on the previews and our draconian administration, I'm almost surprised the movie was made.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » November 29, 2005, 9:56 pm

noel wrote:Clooney should be playing something a bit different in the upcoming (I personally can't wait) Syriana. Based on the previews and our draconian administration, I'm almost surprised the movie was made.

Yeah, that looks very good. I hope he shows some range

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » November 30, 2005, 12:24 am

The whole 2 finger martial arts stance thing, it was cool when Bruce did it but while wielding a lightsaber it looks pretty stupid.

Marb

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » December 1, 2005, 4:32 pm

noel wrote:Clooney should be playing something a bit different in the upcoming (I personally can't wait) Syriana. Based on the previews and our draconian administration, I'm almost surprised the movie was made.

Indeed. I am really looking forward to seeing Syriana.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » December 2, 2005, 6:37 pm

Goodnight and Goodluck was also very good. It was produced and directed by George Clooney and he plays a supporting role in it as well. It's about the CBS journalist Edward R. Murrow’s public battle with Joseph McCarthy in the 1950s, which exposed the corruption of McCarthyism to a wide audience of Americans. Had a limited release, but I was lucky enough to see it. Easily one of the best movies I've seen over the last few years and was very well reviewed by many critics.

Has 94% on rottentomatoes.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/good_ni ... /about.php

I think Clooney is doing a very good thing with the power he has as well paid celebrity. His company Participant Productions is making high quality movies with a focus on current world affairs or historical events with relevance to problems we have today. I welcome any film that brings up intelligent debate and have become a fan of Clooney because of it. I agree he's not an amazing actor, but he seems to be a very smart person and knows how to make entertaining movies that actually matter.

VariaVespasa · Post by **VariaVespasa** » December 3, 2005, 8:44 am

Seconded- Goodnight and Good Luck was very good, strongly recommend it if you get the chance.

*Hugs*
Varia