Ottawa — The federal government is demanding that the telecommunications industry build a wiretapping capacity into their networks that would allow authorities to conduct round-the-clock surveillance on the e-mail, Internet or phone use of more than 8,000 people at a time, sources say.
She Dreams in Digital
\"Led Zeppelin taught an entire generation of young men how to make love, if they just listen\"- Michael Reed(2005)
how is this different from american or european telecommunications networks with the built in ability to tap the lines. law enforcement has had the ability to tap phone lines using different methods since the 1940s. you still need to have a warrant to do it, unlike patriot act. whether or not its the ability to network right into someone's phone calls or breaking into their home and bugging their phone, cops have always had the ability to tap a line.
I am all for allowing law enforcement to use any and all tools available to them to, uhh.. enforce the law. the rcmp cant build a case against someone and arrest them based on illegally intercepting people's private communications unless they have cause to be intercepted.
a lot of this new legislation is to combat organized crime and potential terrorism. weren't you one of those neocon hackjob retards that whine about how canada doesn't do enough to stop teh brown people from streaming over our unprotected border into your god fearing christian utopia with dirty bombs secreted up their anuses? why yes, I think you are! you can't complain about how we don't do enough to fight crime on one side of your mouth (or in your case, asshole), and then whine about giving law enforcement the tools to do their job properly. you can't have it both ways, tardhat.
Actually I said nothing about it Kyoukan, so you are proving yourself to be incapable of basic clues. You cannot contribute anything without name calling so I will start returning the favor you clueless piece of trailor trash.
I have always been strongly pro civil rights, and this law is a PATRIOT act level hit to Canadians, but I am glad to hear you support it!
She Dreams in Digital
\"Led Zeppelin taught an entire generation of young men how to make love, if they just listen\"- Michael Reed(2005)
this law is a PATRIOT act level hit to Canadians, but I am glad to hear you support it!
Not even close.
It's basically the same as the existing 60+ year old law allowing law enforcement agencies to tap phone lines if they have a warrant.
The law had to adapt to the communication technologies that have emerged in the past 10 years. Land line taps are outdated and ineffective in this day and age.
I've got 99 problems and I'm not dealing with any of them - Lay-Z
the capability to tap 8000 lines at once doesn't mean they are tapping 8000 lines at once. do you even remotely understand what you fucking read?
how can even someone with the level of stupid you achieve nearly every time you post be dumb enough to equate giving police a modern way to tap lines of communication with secret warrants and investigations and the ability to spy on and compel people to give law enforcement information without even a formal investigation being conducted, under the threat of imprisonment? are you sincerely this much of a moron or are you trolling us for kicks?
kyoukan wrote:the capability to tap 8000 lines at once doesn't mean they are tapping 8000 lines at once. do you even remotely understand what you fucking read?
how can even someone with the level of stupid you achieve nearly every time you post be dumb enough to equate giving police a modern way to tap lines of communication with secret warrants and investigations and the ability to spy on and compel people to give law enforcement information without even a formal investigation being conducted, under the threat of imprisonment? are you sincerely this much of a moron or are you trolling us for kicks?
You are just too ignorant to understand the erosion of rights, but most troll ugly people who do not leave their house never understand it.
She Dreams in Digital
\"Led Zeppelin taught an entire generation of young men how to make love, if they just listen\"- Michael Reed(2005)
kyoukan wrote:the capability to tap 8000 lines at once doesn't mean they are tapping 8000 lines at once. do you even remotely understand what you fucking read?
how can even someone with the level of stupid you achieve nearly every time you post be dumb enough to equate giving police a modern way to tap lines of communication with secret warrants and investigations and the ability to spy on and compel people to give law enforcement information without even a formal investigation being conducted, under the threat of imprisonment? are you sincerely this much of a moron or are you trolling us for kicks?
You are just too ignorant to understand the erosion of rights, but most troll ugly people who do not leave their house never understand it.
you are completely not affected by this at all. The people that are affected by it are arguing against you.
Kylere wrote:
You are just too ignorant to understand the erosion of rights, but most troll ugly people who do not leave their house never understand it.
Giving law enforcement the ability to conduct surveillance under the same restrictions for new technology is not the same thing as giving law enforcement less restrictions to conduct surveillance.
To give a simple, hypothetical example- importing nuclear weapons as a private citizen is illegal. The government decides to also check importing it by air as well as by sea. That's a new surveillance under the same law. A comparison to the Patriot Act would be deciding that anyone who has studied nuclear science could now be monitored by the government- it's not the scope of enforcement being broadened to cover the same ground, but entirely new (if related) areas in the name of prevention.
The capability to do surveillance just does not equate to the legal right to- which is exactly which changed in the Patriot Act in the United States, but is not changing in Canada at all.
