A NYC hurricane

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » September 1, 2005, 10:25 am

So as not to (further) derail the Katrina thread, has anyone seen the discovery channel show talking about what'll happen when (not if) even a medium size hurricane hits NYC? It's happened before and will again. A 10+ foot storm surge and it's over, power, transporation, communications, etc.. are underground and will be flooded. The equipmwnt to pump them out is down there too. Once debris breaches a window on a skyscaper many more will immediately blow out. There's no possible way to evacuate for most, even those that have the means to leave there isn't any infrastructure to let the vast majority out.

The city govt has essentially ignored it, because there's really nothing they can afford to do about it.

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » September 1, 2005, 10:35 am

isnt nyc well above the sea level?

miir · Post by **miir** » September 1, 2005, 10:49 am

Very much.
I think about 150' about sea level.

A 10 foot storm surge would mean people in lower manhattan might get thier toes wet.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » September 1, 2005, 10:53 am

But fear mongering is a good thing... there is no other city in the country that is at risk the way new orleans if to flooding. Wanna talk disaster scenerios for nyc... talk about that fault line runnin up the hudson river and no earthquake codes

miir · Post by **miir** » September 1, 2005, 11:04 am

Yeah, an earthquake is a more realistic threat to NYC than a Hurricane.... but the threat is pretty low as most of the quakes in the are are of pretty low magnitude.

XunilTlatoani · Post by **XunilTlatoani** » September 1, 2005, 1:18 pm

I'm losing sleep at night worrying about the Yellowstone Caldera

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » September 1, 2005, 1:38 pm

St. Louis has a huge fault line under it as well.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » September 1, 2005, 3:36 pm

Bubba Grizz wrote:St. Louis has a huge fault line under it as well.

Better still, the North of the city side sits on reclaimed swampland that will amplify the shock, and continues to be drained by a system installed in the mid-late 1800s that's largely undocumented. They find it when sections occasionally collapse.
http://www.ceri.memphis.edu/public/facts_long.shtml

More fun St. Louis facts - The contaminated remains of the Malinkrodt chemical plant that handled uranium, thorium and radium as part of the bomb making extravaganza during the 40s and 50s sits under the runway pavement at Lambert airport.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » September 1, 2005, 3:38 pm

miir wrote:Yeah, an earthquake is a more realistic threat to NYC than a Hurricane.... but the threat is pretty low as most of the quakes in the are are of pretty low magnitude.

3 Hurricanes have hit New York since 1938

miir · Post by **miir** » September 1, 2005, 3:40 pm

Cartalas wrote:
miir wrote:Yeah, an earthquake is a more realistic threat to NYC than a Hurricane.... but the threat is pretty low as most of the quakes in the are are of pretty low magnitude.

3 Hurricanes have hit New York since 1938

And they get multiple earthquakes every year.
What's your point?

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » September 1, 2005, 3:50 pm

miir wrote:
Cartalas wrote:
miir wrote:Yeah, an earthquake is a more realistic threat to NYC than a Hurricane.... but the threat is pretty low as most of the quakes in the are are of pretty low magnitude.

3 Hurricanes have hit New York since 1938
And they get multiple earthquakes every year.
What's your point?

How many of those so called earthquakes none of which I can find with a magnitude over 2.0, hell for all we know that was the central park Garth Brooks concert" caused damage?

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » September 1, 2005, 3:55 pm

What about the thing I saw on National Geographic about a small island (somewhere in the canaries I think)that has a big piece that is going to fall off and create a Mega Tsunami. I can't remember the details as it's been a while, but they were saying when the wave hit New York it would still be like .. I wanna say three or four hundred feet high and be traveling at like 4oo mph.. Farfetched, Maybe.. But think of what that would do.

Noysyrump · Post by **Noysyrump** » September 1, 2005, 8:04 pm

OMG!!!!!

Its the Day After Tomarow!!!!

RUN!!!!!

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » September 1, 2005, 8:08 pm

3 Hurricanes have hit New York since 1938

None of which have destroyed the city. Aren't you proving the opposite point?

MooZilla · Post by **MooZilla** » September 1, 2005, 9:06 pm

i live in both new york city and seattle...

so either my ass is going to get rocked by a uber earthquake or i get 'sploded by terrorists. great.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » September 1, 2005, 11:10 pm

Funkmasterr wrote:What about the thing I saw on National Geographic about a small island (somewhere in the canaries I think)that has a big piece that is going to fall off and create a Mega Tsunami. I can't remember the details as it's been a while, but they were saying when the wave hit New York it would still be like .. I wanna say three or four hundred feet high and be traveling at like 4oo mph.. Farfetched, Maybe.. But think of what that would do.

Some time in the next 1000 years (though yeah, it could be next week)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/20 ... nami.shtml

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » September 1, 2005, 11:30 pm

I am just trying to imagine what a MEGA tsunami could do.. I just remember when I was in Alaska in 2001. The drive from Anchorage to Wasilla was crazy. Seeing everything on the sides of the highway dead for as far as you can see to either side for miles upon miles.. And there wasn't even anything mega about that tsunami.. I realize the one last year had a much higher count of victims.. but I can only really gauge by what I have seen with my own eyes.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » September 2, 2005, 1:08 am

MooZilla wrote:i live in both new york city and seattle...

so either my ass is going to get rocked by a uber earthquake or i get 'sploded by terrorists. great.

Or you just assplode

Nali · Post by **Nali** » September 2, 2005, 2:08 am

I'm losing sleep at night worrying about the Yellowstone Caldera

I know! Was watching the special on TV awhile back. When this thing blows, it is supposed to everyone within a 300 mile radius ( If i can remember correctly ) instantly and thousands more within a day. The total death toll would be 50,000 plus ( or another large number, its been awhile since ive seen it! )

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » September 2, 2005, 10:42 am

Sueven wrote:
3 Hurricanes have hit New York since 1938
None of which have destroyed the city. Aren't you proving the opposite point?

neither has a Earthquake. point taken end of disscussion

miir · Post by **miir** » September 2, 2005, 10:52 am

Cartalas wrote:
Sueven wrote:
3 Hurricanes have hit New York since 1938
None of which have destroyed the city. Aren't you proving the opposite point?
neither has a Earthquake. point taken end of disscussion

Isn't that exactly what I said in the first place?

Your stupidity never fails to astound me.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » September 2, 2005, 11:23 am

major hurricanes rarely hit farther north than the carolinas. Has a category 4 ever hit farther north than Wilmington, NC?

Hugo was a 4 that hit Charleston. I think Hazel back in the 50s that hit North Carolina was 4.

the seawater temps and the weather patterns that tend to move across the continent, just aren't conducive.

Skogen · Post by **Skogen** » September 6, 2005, 5:50 pm

Sueven wrote:
3 Hurricanes have hit New York since 1938
None of which have destroyed the city. Aren't you proving the opposite point?

http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/mandias/38h ... uture.html

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » September 6, 2005, 9:17 pm

miir wrote:
Cartalas wrote:
Sueven wrote:
3 Hurricanes have hit New York since 1938
None of which have destroyed the city. Aren't you proving the opposite point?
neither has a Earthquake. point taken end of disscussion
Isn't that exactly what I said in the first place?

Your stupidity never fails to astound me.

No this is your statement

"Yeah, an earthquake is a more realistic threat to NYC than a Hurricane.... but the threat is pretty low as most of the quakes in the are are of pretty low magnitude."

An Earthquake is not a more realistic threat then a Hurricane, REALISTIC THREAT!!!! simple mind a Hurricane has done damage to NYC a earthquake has not. I swear you get dumber every post.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » September 6, 2005, 9:23 pm

Realistic Threat? Which one of them used to have WMD?!

Is that a fissile device in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » September 7, 2005, 9:28 am

New York is a threat to itself and should be left alone. Just need to watch Law and Order to realize that.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » September 7, 2005, 1:30 pm

Bubba Grizz wrote:New York is a threat to itself and should be left alone. Just need to watch Law and Order to realize that.

Wasn't showgirls filmed there? That should be proof enough.