Ignore this flame

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » November 25, 2002, 4:13 pm

Fuck you Jice. It takes a low piece of shit like yourself to pull what you pulled last night. For a person that's been there when your 8 people have wanted to go drop some high end mob for your 1337 drops dozens of times asking for help that you straight told no, then ran off to kill our target outright... That's fucking low, even for your cockmongering standards. What ever happened to guild cooperation?

I hope people start seeing you for the tool you are: a crutch. I hope you get the fucking boot when we realize we no longer need to put up with your self-gratifying masterbatory bullshit anymore. You're the lowest form of shit. Fuck you.

noel · Post by **noel** » November 25, 2002, 4:18 pm

First post!

Sadly, you'll probably take shit from the officers for posting this on a public forum instead of letting them handle it, but still, I think you did a great job.

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » November 25, 2002, 4:25 pm

Officer's reply: "Jice doesn't like to be asked for help from members, only from ME."

word for fucking word.

noel · Post by **noel** » November 25, 2002, 4:29 pm

Pahreyia wrote:Officer's reply: "Jice doesn't like to be asked for help from members, only from ME."

word for fucking word.

Well you might be a spy! ... or something. That's fucking stupid though in my personal, uninvolved opinion.

Ocelott · Post by **Ocelott** » November 25, 2002, 4:32 pm

I know I don't follow "As EverQuest Turns" but are they in the same guild?

noel · Post by **noel** » November 25, 2002, 4:34 pm

Pah is in Keepers of the Elements, Jice is the Supreme High Overlord and Superior Being Guild Leader of The Corps.

Ocelott · Post by **Ocelott** » November 25, 2002, 4:36 pm

LOL Thanks for the Info.. Now I'm tracking.

KilornCloudwalker · Post by **KilornCloudwalker** » November 25, 2002, 4:39 pm

You forgot High Reverend Cultist, too, Aran...

Pah, it was crap and I agree with you. Makes one wonder what the term 'alliance' means to all involved. I've seen strangers treat eachother with more respect than that.

noel · Post by **noel** » November 25, 2002, 4:41 pm

It's a shame to see him acting this way. I know <The Corps> have benefitted a lot from KoE's help. Probably more than KoE has. Really too bad.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » November 25, 2002, 4:42 pm

Oy vey... Looks like I gots some work to do

Being an officer is super fun, lemme tell yas.

Coatlicue [KoE] · Post by **Coatlicue [KoE]** » November 25, 2002, 4:45 pm

Um, Ok.

I guess taking it to private emails or PM's don't work anymore heh

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » November 25, 2002, 4:46 pm

Not for lack of trying Coatie.

Coatlicue [KoE] · Post by **Coatlicue [KoE]** » November 25, 2002, 4:49 pm

Didn't say you didn't try

Drustwyn · Post by **Drustwyn** » November 25, 2002, 4:50 pm

Masturbatory. Not Masterbatory.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » November 25, 2002, 4:50 pm

why the fuck do you start a thread that is entitled "Ignore this...", when you don't want anybody to ignore this?

you want us to all get worked up over some stuff that is really the responsibility of your guild's officers to resolve. if you have some sort of working agreement with Corps that was not being honored, then your officers should do something about it, and you should be taking this up with them, not us.

most of all, who friggin cares. wtf was this about , hand of maestro??

noel · Post by **noel** » November 25, 2002, 4:52 pm

It's about Dvinn's heart! You're so fucking insensitive sometimes, Voro.

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » November 25, 2002, 4:56 pm

Vero, did I title this "Here everyone, let's start shit!"?

checking....... uhm no. I was VENTING. That motherfucker pissed me off and the officers shrugged it off. I didn't ask anyone to get worked up. I don't expect anyone to get worked up. Hell, most of the people here already don't like jice. I couldn't care less whether you give a damn or not. This was my way of bitching at nobody in particular in a relatively appropriate forum.

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » November 25, 2002, 4:57 pm

I was wondering what I was going to do this week.

I guess we wont kill King AkAnon anymore without consulting you Pay.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » November 25, 2002, 4:59 pm

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » November 25, 2002, 5:00 pm

Ya know... I really appreciate it when I am informed of "incidents" before posts like this happen...

Mawafu · Post by **Mawafu** » November 25, 2002, 5:04 pm

You weren't on last night, Canno.

This thread has definitely made my Monday more entertaining though.

I see Pah's reason for being pissed, but it's Nagafen, fucking Nagafen...

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » November 25, 2002, 5:06 pm

Naggy? Who the fuck cares about Naggy? (well, except for Voxy). But really....

Adelrune Argenti · Post by **Adelrune Argenti** » November 25, 2002, 5:08 pm

What is this all about? It seems rather over dramatic to bring a vague and inflammatory post like this here without any details. Work with the officers. If you arent satisfied with what you get there, either take it up with Jice personally or find some other place to play. Coming to this board without any information to really spew other than a gratutitous "Fuck you" really doesnt help matters now does it. Maybe you thought this board would be good because people seem to dislike Jice. You know what, I will let you in on a little secret, Jice really doesnt care what the fuck people think about him. He plays as he plays and thats that. Those that have known him for awhile know that. You either accept that as a personality trait or you move on and dont deal with him.
For the record, Jice, although caustic at times, has always dealt straightly and up front with me. If you have an issue with him, talk to him.

~

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » November 25, 2002, 5:09 pm

I don't care if it was Dvinn... it's the fact that I had a group good to go, and wanted to fill out the last two slots in the groups. I asked him for help, he said no, and not 5 minutes later there they were. If he were to have said "no, we're going there next, corps only" I would have been fine with it. a compensatory invite along would have been great. anything except brushing me off and then running off to kill the mob I asked for his help on.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » November 25, 2002, 5:11 pm

ok i'll break my post down a bit.

if you handle this through the proper channels you don't make your guild look bad, which is what this thread will do. trust me.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » November 25, 2002, 5:13 pm

So you didn't get invited to a Naggy kill despite having asked? Good googlie mooglie. Relax dude, no reason to fly off the handle for that.

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » November 25, 2002, 5:15 pm

no adel, I didn't have any such fantasies like that... I simply needed to vent,and when i attempted to speak with an officer, that's the reply I got. I don't care about what jice thinks, if he doesn't care that much, then leave this as a flame and a rant and don't worry about it. I personally dispise the guy, and I'm entitled to my opinion.

Draagonacia · Post by **Draagonacia** » November 25, 2002, 5:16 pm

I really think this should have gone to Rizz.....He IS YOUR Guild leader. He is one of the fairest players I know. That's HIS job. And if you don't think your officers dealt with it appropriatly then cast a complaint to Rizz about it.
And if that doesn't work and your STILL pissed off....well GET A LIFE! It's a freaking game.
Not like that mob will never spawn again and someone will kill it. And don't even THINK about flaming me! I'm only saying what everyone is thinking...Some people take this game way too serious.
And if your wondering who the hell I am...I'm one of those people that you all like to refer to as Jice's Mindless Drones....

"I didn't join The Corps because of Jice and I sure as hell will not leave because of you!" Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it!

Draagonacia
61 Warder

"A kiss made of paper, a heart made of glass...
A promise to be broken, was all that came to pass"

Adelrune Argenti · Post by **Adelrune Argenti** » November 25, 2002, 5:20 pm

Pah,
There are more officers to talk to. Try some of the others and then take it to Zelfani or Klydon as well. Posting here about interguild issues, especially ones that are between 2 guilds that share a close alliance is a really bad move. Rethink this post.

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Fallanthas · Post by **Fallanthas** » November 25, 2002, 5:23 pm

Here's an idea.

Start a post on our member boards, let's talk it out.

Ocelott · Post by **Ocelott** » November 25, 2002, 5:23 pm

God I love this shit!

At least its not a poll on SuVs and tattoos. lol

Back on the subject at hand. I know a certain ranger that got WAY pissed off when she got steamrolled on a certain VSR. Yea, It will pop again and all that fun stuff. But it still sucks when it happens to you.

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » November 25, 2002, 5:25 pm

veronwe: thanks for the clarification, this is my opinion, not my guild's.

Cane: it wasn't the mob, it wasn't the day, it wasn't anything other than the fact that we were going for it and asked for help, and were told no. then not 5 minutes later, there they were.

Draagonacia: I have the utmost respect for members of the corps.. I don't happen to like your leader, but that's my opinion. Not flaming you, but I don't recall saying "jice's mindless drones" anywhere in that... I'm not advocating anyone leaving the corps, it's your guild, it's a good fir for you, all the better. I just don't like the tact or lack of that was displayed by jice.

he has shown 0 respect for someone that has picked up camp and gone to help him and your guild with whatever target they've been after. All i would have asked for is the courtesy of him saying "no, we're doing ragefire and then porting over to kill naggy afterwards."

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » November 25, 2002, 5:27 pm

Here's a more accurate question... Does anyone even remember how to even get to SolB??

Ocelott · Post by **Ocelott** » November 25, 2002, 5:29 pm

LOL

Funny that you mention that. I went to help a cleric friend clear the giants for the ragefire turn in and got so damn lost.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » November 25, 2002, 5:30 pm

This is fun!

I am going over to Jice's house tonight. Want me to kick him in the shin for you?

Adelrune Argenti · Post by **Adelrune Argenti** » November 25, 2002, 5:35 pm

Actually Bubba, just log in and gank Nagafen instead.

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Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » November 25, 2002, 5:42 pm

Umm, this is extraordinairely silly.

Christ, someone gank Emp in Ssra, Morten Rah Rah BS in Vex, or something worthwhile, or post the flames on newbieveeshanvault.org

Siji · Post by **Siji** » November 25, 2002, 5:43 pm

Guess I feel bad for sending a tell to Jice saying Naggy was up since nobody in KOE responded with any interest when I mentioned it in /gu. Of course, Jice didn't respond to me just like nobody in /gu responded to me about it and I thought nothing of it. I just want the fuggin' Rage idiot to pop.

If I had to guess, I'd say the hard feelings are present because people in KOE wanted to do Naggy, asked Corps for help filling in the numbers on a Sunday kind of later night time. They were either told no or ignored and then Corps went and did him alone. (Yeah, I was there while the 60's were clearing the giants and was curious why you guys were there alone).

Clarification! (I think)

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » November 25, 2002, 5:44 pm

Umm... the only tell I got about Nag was from Nads who asked if we were going to kill him and I said "Not until after we kill Rage" to which he said "ok". Oh and Siiji (the only KOE in the zone when we showed up) asked us if we were going to kill Nag which I said "yes" and he said "cool" and then he left. Considering no one had touched the giants and no one said shit to me during the long slack ass clear and buff process, I had no reason to think anything was amiss. Whoever said a KOE could not come was flatly full of shit since if you have payed attention at all, we have an open door policy to KOE that they can crash our raids any time they want to. I certainly have NEVER turned away a KOE for a raid, but I guess I can make an exception in your case from now on.

Edit: Siiji we knew nag was up before you said anything because we wiped to him twice the previous evening with a pickup/skeleton force that KOE were present at no less. We just had other stuff we were doing first. At the time you asked for help we were leaving CT and heading to Skyfires to kill Zergalot Ragefire, so we couldnt really lend any support at that time. You may not have known what we were doing, but I am pretty sure your officers did. Pay just decided to sit on this bundle of vagnitus all night and spew here today, apparently, because when I XPed with Rizz, Tari, Inf, et all, no mention of this or anything else negative was made. I mean, christ, the only drop worth a crap to us off Nag is the COF so we have left him alone, but he was up five days straight so we'd be stupid to pass up killing him when we had nothing better to do.

noel · Post by **noel** » November 25, 2002, 5:49 pm

This is about NAGAFEN?

/snicker

Adelrune Argenti · Post by **Adelrune Argenti** » November 25, 2002, 5:51 pm

Likewise, you are all invited to my next Blackburrow raid. At this raid, I will be divulging the l33t t@kt1ks to get to the bottom of Blackburrow without fighting all the way through. This will be open to all levels. We probably need a bunch of post 60 levels there because I hear the gnolls are especially viscious. I have never been there before.

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Baracus · Post by **Baracus** » November 25, 2002, 5:52 pm

AniRask wrote:Here's a more accurate question... Does anyone even remember how to even get to SolB??

Heh, I had to get Craigy/Koosey to show me how to get there when it was time to camp Rage a couple weeks back. I got as far as Lavastorm on my own.

Pah, I'll post the same thing here to you that I'm about to post on the KoE boards: I don't care what Jice did. I don't care if Jice is 100% wrong in whatever the hell is going on here, but you do NOT air dirty laundry in public. You embarass yourself and you embarass the tag that you wear.

Sorry for this Jice.

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » November 25, 2002, 5:52 pm

Apparently....

I get two tells and now I am the Antichrist. If only I could make money pissing people off, I'd be rich.

Edit: And hey if anyone wants to slam us for farming NAg and Vox with alts, feel free. Its helped us out a lot and its a lot less hastle making cash doing this than cock fencing over Lozidal.

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » November 25, 2002, 5:53 pm

And then this mysterious enchanter swooped out of no where and nuked/mem wiped naggy. He looted the lewtz and disappeared into thin air.

HAR

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » November 25, 2002, 5:58 pm

oh my fucking god , my twink didnt get a god damn gold plated koshigatani!

OH MY FUCKING GOD YOU MOTHER FUCKERS!

Draagonacia · Post by **Draagonacia** » November 25, 2002, 6:02 pm

Who said I liked Jice? lol...I do sometimes...sometimes I hate him but to tell you the truth...I have always respected him and he is straight up with me...He may tell me off occasionally when we diasagree and I may tell him to bite me on occasion but I do respect his leadership even if it is a little different than what I have been used to....
But like I stated earlier...Take it to your GL Rizz if you have a problem with Jice or ANY of The Corps people. I personally would if I were in your boots.

Draagonacia
61st season Warder

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » November 25, 2002, 6:07 pm

Aranuil:

This is about NAGAFEN?

/snicker

No, read my replies again.

Pahreyia:

I don't care if it was Dvinn... it's the fact that I had a group good to go, and wanted to fill out the last two slots in the groups. I asked him for help, he said no, and not 5 minutes later there they were. If he were to have said "no, we're going there next, corps only" I would have been fine with it. a compensatory invite along would have been great. anything except brushing me off and then running off to kill the mob I asked for his help on.

It's about the disrespect that I was shown.

quyrean · Post by **quyrean** » November 25, 2002, 6:07 pm

Sounds like a mis-communication. Pitty to, cause you missed the PHAT UBA LOOTZ of a shammy sword(or something stupid) and THREE bard drums!

Quy...

edit - You can also talk to Corps officers Pahreyia if you want to vent, or post on our message board.

Mitzey · Post by **Mitzey** » November 25, 2002, 6:39 pm

Oh ya darn im so sorry i missed this run - and ya jice is such a fuckin asshole after the last Vox farmage i couldnt beleive he basically gave both white scales away (one to KoE who had one high level person there to help buff) and the other to some obscure guild who he was paying off to not contest first attempt rights. Yep im sure glad none of those folks came here bitching about how we handle Vox and such. Who the hell does Jice think he is anyway - Santa Claus or something?

(sarcams off)

"Officer's reply: "Jice doesn't like to be asked for help from members, only from ME."

word for fucking word."

Mabye instead of taking your KoE officers (and who was this anyway - your fast to slam jice on a public board but im curious who you are quoting with this remark) word for what the deal was you should have tried asking another officer in The Corps - or simply doing a who all "The Corps" you would have probably seen then that "The Corps" was busing zerging Ragefire. We have a policy of manditory raid attendance so folks were busy just then. As far as when "The Corps" wouldnt let you come along on their Naggie zerg - as Jice said we have an open policy for KoE wanting to join us on a run. If you just asked if we needed help i imagine the answer was no - thats different then being told you cant come to a run.

Mitzey Sweetsong
Officer of the Corps

Siji · Post by **Siji** » November 25, 2002, 7:18 pm

Oh and Siiji (the only KOE in the zone when we showed up) asked us if we were going to kill Nag which I said "yes" and he said "cool" and then he left.

Just for clarification.. I sent you a tell that said "Naggy is up if any of your twinks want to do him." I never asked if you were going to and never got a response from the tell I sent you (which was probably an hour or so before your people actually showed up). I also never left; I've been sitting at that stupid Rage spawn since somewhere around 8 last night.

Just to clarify that. I'm in a clarity type mood!