EDIT: Well, I was off by a week. Guess I'll go see Land of The Dead instead... Man, I'm dissappointed
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It's being released today and I'm seeing an afternoon showing. Review to follow. I'll be including spoilers, hidden of course, once I get around to sharing my opinion.
EDIT: Well, I was off by a week. Guess I'll go see Land of The Dead instead... Man, I'm dissappointed
EDIT: Well, I was off by a week. Guess I'll go see Land of The Dead instead... Man, I'm dissappointed
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Saw it tonight - I thoroughly enjoyed it.
The special effects were well done, of course, and the acting was excellent. What I really liked about the movie was the way it captured the sense of hopelessness (something more action-based movies such as Independence Day failed to do for me). So often it seemed like the humans were so expendable, just objects being used by the aliens, and there was absolutely nothing they could do about it. While following the survival attempts of one family, this perspective was illustrated masterfully. Maybe I'm overglorifying it since I just saw it and I'll look back later and think it wasn't nearly as good as I'm saying... I just really enjoyed the way Spielberg presented the movie and created that aura of doubt, hopelessness, helplessness, etc.
If nothing else, I'd consider it worth seeing on the big screen.
The special effects were well done, of course, and the acting was excellent. What I really liked about the movie was the way it captured the sense of hopelessness (something more action-based movies such as Independence Day failed to do for me). So often it seemed like the humans were so expendable, just objects being used by the aliens, and there was absolutely nothing they could do about it. While following the survival attempts of one family, this perspective was illustrated masterfully. Maybe I'm overglorifying it since I just saw it and I'll look back later and think it wasn't nearly as good as I'm saying... I just really enjoyed the way Spielberg presented the movie and created that aura of doubt, hopelessness, helplessness, etc.
If nothing else, I'd consider it worth seeing on the big screen.
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I'd suggest using spoiler tags~
As for your points... I'm pretty much in agreement with the flaws you noticed.
[hide]When you say why did the camera work... who knows? Why did the car they drove work? The one-in-whatever chance something might not be affected by the EMPs, maybe? Fuck if I know.
Also, it just lacked some meaning to me, the aliens had apparently been vurying machines in the earth for hundreds of years, so why did they wait til now?
This was actually bothering me during the movie. The tripods... to be buried under our noses it would've had to been hundreds of years ago before the areas they arose in were populated. This long ago we wouldn't been using anything beyond swords and bows at the most.
Furthermore, when they buried the tripods so long ago, wouldn't they have discovered the diseases and effects of the microscopic organisms on our world? Fuck, why didn't they take us out when they were originally burying the damn things?
Based on the movie, I'm assuming their agenda was to take over the world for the natural resources, not the humans. They were exterminating humans like no tomorrow, only "harvesting" them in minimal numbers to power the tripods occasionally. Why wait hundreds of years for us to use up shitloads of the resources, etc.?
There are some rather large gaping plotholes. As predicted, when I look back and rethink, it wasn't spectacular. Still though, I enjoyed watching it and I believe it was worth admission.[/hide]
As for your points... I'm pretty much in agreement with the flaws you noticed.
[hide]When you say why did the camera work... who knows? Why did the car they drove work? The one-in-whatever chance something might not be affected by the EMPs, maybe? Fuck if I know.
Also, it just lacked some meaning to me, the aliens had apparently been vurying machines in the earth for hundreds of years, so why did they wait til now?
This was actually bothering me during the movie. The tripods... to be buried under our noses it would've had to been hundreds of years ago before the areas they arose in were populated. This long ago we wouldn't been using anything beyond swords and bows at the most.
Furthermore, when they buried the tripods so long ago, wouldn't they have discovered the diseases and effects of the microscopic organisms on our world? Fuck, why didn't they take us out when they were originally burying the damn things?
Based on the movie, I'm assuming their agenda was to take over the world for the natural resources, not the humans. They were exterminating humans like no tomorrow, only "harvesting" them in minimal numbers to power the tripods occasionally. Why wait hundreds of years for us to use up shitloads of the resources, etc.?
There are some rather large gaping plotholes. As predicted, when I look back and rethink, it wasn't spectacular. Still though, I enjoyed watching it and I believe it was worth admission.[/hide]
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Well, the car they drove has the magnetic summat or other replaced and that made it work again, so there is an explanation for that. i just really found the plot to be lacking a lot. You could argue they stayed true to the original story, but today it just doesn't stack up, I need some meaning goddamnit!
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Well, the car they drove has the magnetic summat or other replaced and that made it work again, so there is an explanation for that. i just really found the plot to be lacking a lot. You could argue they stayed true to the original story, but today it just doesn't stack up, I need some meaning goddamnit!
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I had some of the same thoughts on the EMP thing so did some searching. Apparently electronic equipment that is off is less likely to be damaged. I figured you needed an electrical current to be going through an item to damage it and the guy with the video camera just happened to have the batteries out when the strikes hit.
Anyway, I enjoyed the movie. Why try to read into something that is just meant to be brainless entertainment
Anyway, I enjoyed the movie. Why try to read into something that is just meant to be brainless entertainment
I read the (first few chapters of the) novel several years back and enjoyed it about as much as I did the movie. I dont recall why I didnt finish it, but the same thing happened with Dracula, only I still aced a book report on that (go, public schooling).
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I love the feeling of helplessness and how the survivors play up the darwinistic(sp) mentality. unlike with most invasion films, this one follows just a handful of characters in one location, rather than several across the globe. the only problems I have with the story are the irresponsible son's survival, the lack of explanation behind their waiting 1M years, and the bird scene in boston - theyre attempting to land on moving, hostile mechanism?[/hide]
cruise's later work has put him in my modern top 5 (male) actors.
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I love the feeling of helplessness and how the survivors play up the darwinistic(sp) mentality. unlike with most invasion films, this one follows just a handful of characters in one location, rather than several across the globe. the only problems I have with the story are the irresponsible son's survival, the lack of explanation behind their waiting 1M years, and the bird scene in boston - theyre attempting to land on moving, hostile mechanism?[/hide]
cruise's later work has put him in my modern top 5 (male) actors.
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Use spoiler tags you lazy gay ass monkey!Mawafu wrote:I had some of the same thoughts on the EMP thing so did some searching. Apparently electronic equipment that is off is less likely to be damaged. I figured you needed an electrical current to be going through an item to damage it and the guy with the video camera just happened to have the batteries out when the strikes hit.
Anyway, I enjoyed the movie. Why try to read into something that is just meant to be brainless entertainment
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I agree, that was completely stupid.the irresponsible son's survival
So who exactly do you think would have been able to um, ask the Aliens why they waited 1M years to attack...the lack of explanation behind their waiting 1M years
I thought they were crows which sensed the shit was dieing, like the ones eating that red crap that was all over.theyre attempting to land on moving, hostile mechanism?
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Gawd no. It was fairly bad, though.Does this movie rival Battlefield Earth on the bad scale?
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Anyone have the decoder for this?Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Any movie that requires Tom Cruise, a gay man, go public about falling head over heels *puke* in love with some famous actress, in order to get publicity, is probably not a great movie.
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I just saw the movie. It was not bad, even though it was directed by Spielberg. However, it was a bit better than much of the hollywood drivel that has been thrown around over the last couple years.
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Midnyte, whys it matter if tom cruise is gay or not, hell why would it matter if he likes to fuck baby goats in his spare time, hes a great actor, but it seems that no one likes him because of those godamn tabloids and jealousy that hes fucking angelina jolie or whoever it is…but I agree with sueven, the ending was godamn horrible on so many levels…
i do have to give tim robbins credit for playing his role well though, the little girl also did a great job
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I'm sort of bothered by some of your responses..
[hide]If you've read the book you'll find that the movie follows it extremely closely. Excluding the fact that the book is set in England and "Ray" has no kids, he still meets all these crazy characters (Tim Robbins etc).
My level of respect for Tom Cruise's acting has gone up quite a bit, and I too would put him up on my modern actor list. He and the kids did a great job of freaking out (holy shit.. the car scene with the guns in the rain (outside the diner), and also Tom being stunned as hell after he gets back to his house with all the people's ashes on him).
Anyway as I was saying, the movie follows the book very closely. So don't blame the movie for the lack of a meaningful ending because the book ends abruptly like that too. [/hide]
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[hide]If you've read the book you'll find that the movie follows it extremely closely. Excluding the fact that the book is set in England and "Ray" has no kids, he still meets all these crazy characters (Tim Robbins etc).
My level of respect for Tom Cruise's acting has gone up quite a bit, and I too would put him up on my modern actor list. He and the kids did a great job of freaking out (holy shit.. the car scene with the guns in the rain (outside the diner), and also Tom being stunned as hell after he gets back to his house with all the people's ashes on him).
Anyway as I was saying, the movie follows the book very closely. So don't blame the movie for the lack of a meaningful ending because the book ends abruptly like that too. [/hide]
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actually, I was hoping ET would make a cameo appearance and play translator, but it looks like that isnt the case. regardless of whether or not we're capable of communicating with the martians, Id like to have had the slightest bit of reasoning behind the timing. granted, for them, theres no better time than the present, but Im just curious as to why they didnt attack in the past.valryte wrote:So who exactly do you think would have been able to um, ask the Aliens why they waited 1M years to attack...the lack of explanation behind their waiting 1M years
I thought they were crows which sensed the shit was dieing, like the ones eating that red crap that was all over.theyre attempting to land on moving, hostile mechanism?
I see your point with the crows, but I missed the part where they were eating the red-plant crap. I was probably too focused on the stale sourpatch kids I was going to shit out in 10 minutes.
5/10 (being generous)
[hide]I thought the movie itself was horrible. Here's a summary:
-earth invaded by aliens
-humans get the shit kicked out of them from start to finish of the movie
-at the very end, all of the sudden, the aliens die due to bacteria and nothing the humans have done knowingly to save themselves.
What kind of story is that? I thought the best part of the movie was Tom Cruise throwing the peanut butter and jelly sandwiches up against the window.
The little girl was a good character but the son of Tom Cruise really had no use in the movie. I thought the initial part of the movie where you're supposed to develop the main characteres was poorly done.
It was a movie about a hopeless cause and then lucking out in the end. The aliens looked too much like the ones from Independence Day.
Overall, horrible when considering the characters and plot. The special effects were ok but that's not enough these days. Watching it, I felt like I saw the main character race around doing nothing useful while the aliens wreaked havok, finally he does one heroic thing that seemed out of place at the end with the grenades when absolutely forced to do so due to his daughter being taken, and then an incredibly abrupt ending with a quick explanation about bacteria...the only lead in to that was the daughter, at the beginning of the movie, having the splinter in her hand and babbling about how nature would take care of it.
This movie stank worse than Signs which is in the same mold as WoW.[/hide]
[hide]I thought the movie itself was horrible. Here's a summary:
-earth invaded by aliens
-humans get the shit kicked out of them from start to finish of the movie
-at the very end, all of the sudden, the aliens die due to bacteria and nothing the humans have done knowingly to save themselves.
What kind of story is that? I thought the best part of the movie was Tom Cruise throwing the peanut butter and jelly sandwiches up against the window.
The little girl was a good character but the son of Tom Cruise really had no use in the movie. I thought the initial part of the movie where you're supposed to develop the main characteres was poorly done.
It was a movie about a hopeless cause and then lucking out in the end. The aliens looked too much like the ones from Independence Day.
Overall, horrible when considering the characters and plot. The special effects were ok but that's not enough these days. Watching it, I felt like I saw the main character race around doing nothing useful while the aliens wreaked havok, finally he does one heroic thing that seemed out of place at the end with the grenades when absolutely forced to do so due to his daughter being taken, and then an incredibly abrupt ending with a quick explanation about bacteria...the only lead in to that was the daughter, at the beginning of the movie, having the splinter in her hand and babbling about how nature would take care of it.
This movie stank worse than Signs which is in the same mold as WoW.[/hide]
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Now that, I agree with you on, but I believe you're judging this movie a bit harshly. Did you give LOTR a 6?Winnow wrote:Reviews are just personal opinions. I can't name one film critic that I always agree with 100 percent of the time.Rellix wrote:I completely disagree with 90% of what you say there Winnow .. sorry.
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I found myself half way through the movie asking myself if I was enjoying the movie and I had to say yes. The movie made run through a number of emotions. I was freaked when they were freaked. I was sad when they were sad. And I was relieved when they were safe. I found myself wondering how I would have done trying to keep my family together and alive. Then imagine losing some of them. I feel this was portrayed extremely well. This was more about the testimony of the will to survive in incredible and extreme circumstances.
I doubt anyone would be able to "Enjoy" a movie if they spend the entire time nit picking it to death. It is almost as if some of the posters here went into the movie hating it. I admit that there were a lot of things to pick on like being able to drive on a highway as far as they need when all the other cars are dead or why they had to eat peanut butter sandwiches when they were in the kids house where they have a stocked fridge and cupboards. These things didn't make me enjoy the movie any less.
When trying to determine Why the aliens weren't smarter about how they did the invasion or why they waited, any answer would be pure speculation. How are we supposed to know Why? Maybe they had a political fall out or this was some other faction or some crap like that. The point is, we don't know and have to deal with the situation that is in front of us.
I give it a 8.5/10.
I doubt anyone would be able to "Enjoy" a movie if they spend the entire time nit picking it to death. It is almost as if some of the posters here went into the movie hating it. I admit that there were a lot of things to pick on like being able to drive on a highway as far as they need when all the other cars are dead or why they had to eat peanut butter sandwiches when they were in the kids house where they have a stocked fridge and cupboards. These things didn't make me enjoy the movie any less.
When trying to determine Why the aliens weren't smarter about how they did the invasion or why they waited, any answer would be pure speculation. How are we supposed to know Why? Maybe they had a political fall out or this was some other faction or some crap like that. The point is, we don't know and have to deal with the situation that is in front of us.
I give it a 8.5/10.
LOTR = 9.5/10Rellix wrote: Now that, I agree with you on, but I believe you're judging this movie a bit harshly. Did you give LOTR a 6?
I didn't care for War of the Worlds. My comments were less nitpicky than expressing disappointment in major parts of the movie. It felt like a blitz of chaos with not much information and then an abrupt ending. The lead character's journey really did nothing to add anything more to the movie....the drive...the stay at the house...the mob scene...the boat scene...tim robbins scene was even odd.
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im going to make a more detailed post on this when im not so tired, but im curious. I have been downloading a lot of movies lately, generally pretty shortly after they are out in the theatre. I have not been able to find this yet, and have been told by some people that they heard theatres were searching people to stop them from filming it... this didn't happen to me or anyone i saw when I went to see the movie.. just curious if anyone has found this for download yet.
There's a good Telecine version floating around now. Fullscreen though but still good quality.
Anyway... Wasn't too impressed with this movie. And I don't know why people say other people are nitpicking just because they don't like something.
The acting and effects were ok. I just didn't like how everything was put together. So.. I'll give it a 7/10.
Anyway... Wasn't too impressed with this movie. And I don't know why people say other people are nitpicking just because they don't like something.
The acting and effects were ok. I just didn't like how everything was put together. So.. I'll give it a 7/10.
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I disliked this movie almost to the point of hating it. First off, Tom Cruise is way too established in his pretty boy can-do-no-wrong archetype to play the role of such an irresponsible failure. I don't particularly like him or dislike him much (but he was great in collateral) but he is way too limited of an actor to pull the role off. Thus he was tremendously unbelievable.
The ending was completely unsatisfying. Even ID4's lame brained computer virus was a better payoff than watching them just all over and die. Yeah I know that's how Well's story goes, but I don't really care. Change it, or just make your own original alien invasion movie, because plot devices that worked a 80 years ago don't neccesarily work now.
Once, just fucking once I wish Hollywood would make an alien invasion movie that is more than just us getting our fucking asses kicked until some lame deus ex machina kicks in and earth "wins." I want to see aliens come down in big fucking space ships and vehicles and we fight them conventionally and actually have a fucking chance. Is that so hard? I was so stoked in ID4 when the air force was flying an attack run on one of the ships with hundreds of jets only to get completely massacred in 20 seconds. How is that in any way interesting as an action movie? War of the Worlds is nothing but 90 minutes of watching people get exterminated. It was totally uninsteresting after 2 minutes. It was exciting to see the trucks full of soldiers and F-18's fly by and attack but there was no payoff because they all got blown up in one shot.
I think there is a huge market to see an alien invasion type movie where the fighting is somewhat fair. The only thing I can think of that remotely resembles that is Starship Troopers but that was mostly on another planet (and was totally entertaining regardless). I'm so sick of these kinds of films. They are like disaster movies that don't involve nature.
Plus the son was retarded and making him live at the end was cheap and lame. The entire point of the film was if you don't run you don't survive. Dumbass runs right into them and not only survives, but gets to his destination first. What the hell?
It's also getting to the point where special effects don't make me dislike or like a movie any more. CGI has pretty much hit it's peak and it really can't get any more realistic than it is now. I didn't see anything in War of the Worlds that wasn't done in ID4. In fact other than the scene with the military taking the hill, I thought ID4's effects were better.
The ending was completely unsatisfying. Even ID4's lame brained computer virus was a better payoff than watching them just all over and die. Yeah I know that's how Well's story goes, but I don't really care. Change it, or just make your own original alien invasion movie, because plot devices that worked a 80 years ago don't neccesarily work now.
Once, just fucking once I wish Hollywood would make an alien invasion movie that is more than just us getting our fucking asses kicked until some lame deus ex machina kicks in and earth "wins." I want to see aliens come down in big fucking space ships and vehicles and we fight them conventionally and actually have a fucking chance. Is that so hard? I was so stoked in ID4 when the air force was flying an attack run on one of the ships with hundreds of jets only to get completely massacred in 20 seconds. How is that in any way interesting as an action movie? War of the Worlds is nothing but 90 minutes of watching people get exterminated. It was totally uninsteresting after 2 minutes. It was exciting to see the trucks full of soldiers and F-18's fly by and attack but there was no payoff because they all got blown up in one shot.
I think there is a huge market to see an alien invasion type movie where the fighting is somewhat fair. The only thing I can think of that remotely resembles that is Starship Troopers but that was mostly on another planet (and was totally entertaining regardless). I'm so sick of these kinds of films. They are like disaster movies that don't involve nature.
Plus the son was retarded and making him live at the end was cheap and lame. The entire point of the film was if you don't run you don't survive. Dumbass runs right into them and not only survives, but gets to his destination first. What the hell?
It's also getting to the point where special effects don't make me dislike or like a movie any more. CGI has pretty much hit it's peak and it really can't get any more realistic than it is now. I didn't see anything in War of the Worlds that wasn't done in ID4. In fact other than the scene with the military taking the hill, I thought ID4's effects were better.
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There was a rumor several years ago about an ID4 sequel where the aliens come back for another shot. Only this time, we've examined and integrated thier technology from the prior engagement with our own, and we're waiting for them with prepared defenses. We meet them around the moon or in orbit (something like that), we kick some ass, they kick some ass, and it eventually evolved to a ground war which included land/sea/air battles. I thought the whole concept sounded like a lot of fun and something I would pay to see.think there is a huge market to see an alien invasion type movie where the fighting is somewhat fair.
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i'd say hell ya to thatFairweather Pure wrote:There was a rumor several years ago about an ID4 sequel where the aliens come back for another shot. Only this time, we've examined and integrated thier technology from the prior engagement with our own, and we're waiting for them with prepared defenses. We meet them around the moon or in orbit (something like that), we kick some ass, they kick some ass, and it eventually evolved to a ground war which included land/sea/air battles. I thought the whole concept sounded like a lot of fun and something I would pay to see.think there is a huge market to see an alien invasion type movie where the fighting is somewhat fair.
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I did not hate this movie as much as I thought I would.
the characters were pretty ridiculous... tom cruise played a really bad father, who wants his kids to be 'safe'.. but that's about it. his daughter acts like a teenager, a mid-20's, a psychologist, and a 2-year old throughout the movie. his son is probably the most realistic character in the movie.. he knows his dad is a total douchebag, hates him and hates dealing with him.. the attack hits him and he wants to do his part in helping people or fending it off, as he sees how major it is... and they were all invulnerable.
saw this at the drive-in... and the girl who most wanted to see the movie, right after the movie said, 'how did they all die?' and i think that's a negative for the movie, when i hafta explain, "well supposedly even though they've been planning this for a million years and studying us as long as we've been here, they somehow overlooked the fact that they can't survive the microorganisms on this planet."... 'Oh'... she still gives it a thumbs up.
After watching herbie fully loaded first, I give it a thumbs up too.
the characters were pretty ridiculous... tom cruise played a really bad father, who wants his kids to be 'safe'.. but that's about it. his daughter acts like a teenager, a mid-20's, a psychologist, and a 2-year old throughout the movie. his son is probably the most realistic character in the movie.. he knows his dad is a total douchebag, hates him and hates dealing with him.. the attack hits him and he wants to do his part in helping people or fending it off, as he sees how major it is... and they were all invulnerable.
saw this at the drive-in... and the girl who most wanted to see the movie, right after the movie said, 'how did they all die?' and i think that's a negative for the movie, when i hafta explain, "well supposedly even though they've been planning this for a million years and studying us as long as we've been here, they somehow overlooked the fact that they can't survive the microorganisms on this planet."... 'Oh'... she still gives it a thumbs up.
After watching herbie fully loaded first, I give it a thumbs up too.
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I saw this last night and absolutely loved it
[hide]It's possible that on whatever planet these aliens come from (mars from what I'm hearing?) there are no micro organisms. A little far fetched maybe, but if they have never had to deal with bacteria and whatever else then it would be rather easy to overlook such a detail.
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Anybody can sit there and pick out every single flaw and point and laugh at every single small gap in the story.
Good luck enjoying any movie ever, though, if you do that all the time.
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[hide]It's possible that on whatever planet these aliens come from (mars from what I'm hearing?) there are no micro organisms. A little far fetched maybe, but if they have never had to deal with bacteria and whatever else then it would be rather easy to overlook such a detail.
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Anybody can sit there and pick out every single flaw and point and laugh at every single small gap in the story.
Good luck enjoying any movie ever, though, if you do that all the time.
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People are just pointing out things they didn't like. That doesn't mean those are the only things or that they are nitpicking.Anybody can sit there and pick out every single flaw and point and laugh at every single small gap in the story.
Taken as a whole I just didn't find War of the Worlds that enjoyable of a movie.
(Btw, there are lots of other movies with flaws that I DO enjoy. So much for your theory!)
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you're missing a change from the book to the movie.....Neziroth wrote:I saw this last night and absolutely loved it
[hide]It's possible that on whatever planet these aliens come from (mars from what I'm hearing?) there are no micro organisms. A little far fetched maybe, but if they have never had to deal with bacteria and whatever else then it would be rather easy to overlook such a detail.
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Anybody can sit there and pick out every single flaw and point and laugh at every single small gap in the story.
Good luck enjoying any movie ever, though, if you do that all the time.
10/10 - highly entertaining
[hide]it makes sense in the book... they came here, they attacked us. they were vulnerable to the microorganisms and died. however, in the movie, they buried stuff here millions of years ago and have been watching us all along. it no longer makes any sense, that they could have such an eye on us, and yet miss the guy in the giant gorilla suit.[/hide]
I'm glad YOU enjoyed it.... but do not try and be a movie nazi.
I think it was an amazing production... it is rife with problems, but was still an interesting 1-time view..
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