Batman Begins

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » May 19, 2005, 7:48 pm

Saw this trailer today. First off, the first Batman film was pretty cool. The rest of them got worse and worse and worse--relying on bigname actors (at the time) as oppossed to decent scripts or depth of story.

Batman Begins is pretty much a whole new ballgame and I think it will put the franchise back on the map, if that is the intention, anyway. As for the choice to play ze Batman, can't do much better than Christian Bale(American Psycho, The Machinist). That dude is a talented actor that has the physique to make a beefy batman.

I think what sold me on this is Christopher Nolan (Memento, Insomnia), Bale and a much-needed insight into Batman's past. From the looks of it, this will be more of a gritty and quaisi-noir type of action film with a decent story.

Director:
Christopher Nolan (Insomnia, Memento, Following)

Cast:
Christian Bale, Michael Caine, Ken Watanabe, Gary Oldman, Katie Holmes,
Morgan Freeman, Cillian Murphy, Tom Wilkinson, Rutger Hauer

Release Date:
June 15, 2005

Trailers(Yahoo):

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=tr ... 10&intl=us

edit: had date wrong

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » May 20, 2005, 8:42 pm

great cast, michael cane is a superb actor and its great to see ken wantanaba (from last samuri) in another large film...of course morgan freeman is great, but he makes at least 20 movies a year it seems

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » May 20, 2005, 8:47 pm

Xzion wrote:great cast, michael cane is a superb actor and its great to see ken wantanaba (from last samuri) in another large film...of course morgan freeman is great, but he makes at least 20 movies a year it seems

Michael Cane WAS a great actor...he's ancient now.

Moonwynd · Post by **Moonwynd** » May 20, 2005, 9:26 pm

Jeebus...

Michael Caine

samurai

I am in a shitty fucking mood and seeing those two words like that lit the last of my small fuse.

Liam Neeson also has a pretty significant role...but you didn't mention him on the cast list.

Carry the fuck on.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » May 20, 2005, 9:45 pm

He sucks too!

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » May 20, 2005, 11:23 pm

The trailer didn't look too bad. I think it will come out ok. Certainly can't be any worse then all the other Batman movies (after the first one).

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » May 20, 2005, 11:36 pm

I agree, all Batman movies after the first one were crap. This looks pretty interesting and I dig Nolan's and Bale's work in previous films.

Yeah, lots of big name actors in supporting roles, but the only one to stick out is Rutger.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » May 21, 2005, 3:28 am

Not really looking forward to this. No really good reason, just a feeling I guess. Oh, and what's with the Bat Dune Buggy?

Truant · Post by **Truant** » May 21, 2005, 9:56 am

I remember reading Frank Miller was brought on as a consulting producer type person. So there's hope, but we'll see.

Quit trying to make batman the charming hero type. He's not.

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » May 21, 2005, 11:33 am

Ken Watanabe playing Rhas Al'Ghul! Can be good!

Not many actors have done what Chris Bale done

Check out Bales form in The Machinist and compare with Batman Begins!

Quick transformation too!

Best PT, best nourishment and probably a metabolism many would want to have!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » May 21, 2005, 3:23 pm

Here's 16 reasons from Wizard Magazine why the new Batman Movie won't blow. You may have to click on the image to enlarge depending on your resolution setting.

http://www.veeshanvault.org/shared/comi ... 64_052.jpg

http://www.veeshanvault.org/shared/comi ... 64_053.jpg

Kithyen · Post by **Kithyen** » May 21, 2005, 3:29 pm

I saw the 10min. preview they aired on the WB. Although I think Christian Bale's voice when he's in the badsuit was a bit cheesy, the rest looked extremely promising. I'm most definitely looking foward to seeing this.

Homercles · Post by **Homercles** » May 23, 2005, 10:30 am

I think this rendition of Batman will be far superior to any of the previous. Of course I thought all the Batman movies have been utter crap so far. (Even the first one). I nearly walked out on that piece of trash.

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » May 28, 2005, 7:43 am

10 min Batman Trailer

http://www.alldumb.com/item/11885/

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » May 29, 2005, 4:12 am

Thanks! This movie is looking DAMN awesome!

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » May 29, 2005, 11:15 am

Fuck, i cant wait now

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » June 14, 2005, 1:55 pm

Opens tomorrow!

Not sure if I am going tomorrow, but probably this week.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » June 14, 2005, 2:19 pm

I'm seeing it at the IMAX on Saturday. Already have my tickets!

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » June 14, 2005, 2:58 pm

IMAX would be damn cool! We just got a new stadium theater in the area and I will check it there. I was spoiled on the nice theaters in the LA area so am glad we finally have a new-fangled one that is closeby.

Drasta · Post by **Drasta** » June 15, 2005, 12:06 am

you all didn't like the hip glow weapons and crap in batman returns?!?!?! =-P

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » June 15, 2005, 1:08 am

I didn't notice anything good about previous batman movies. This batman movie looks good due to the fact that it is not like the other shitfest flicks.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » June 15, 2005, 5:39 pm

AWESOME!

Saw this at midnight last night in delaware... the movie kicked ass!

only extraneous line: pausing an ass beating to say "nice coat" in a normal voice to a bum who hears you 20 feet away.

didn't you get the memo?... =)

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » June 15, 2005, 6:12 pm

I think Batman Begins will be a better Batman due to that it's for a more mature audience.

Seems darker (no jokes from a crazy Jim Carey riddler and Danny De Penguin didnt feel like a real villain etc) and no teen angst (from Batgirl and Robin).

The castmembers are more serious and more suitable for the roles as well.

Hopefully no one-liners a la 70's Batman either in this.

I had a hard time accepting Clooney, Kilmer and Keaton as Batman heh

Bale seems better!

Only gripe is the change of the Batmobile, but its more realistic.

Kithyen · Post by **Kithyen** » June 16, 2005, 2:49 am

It was pretty wicked and well worth the price of evening admission. Their were a couple cheese elements but for the most part the movie strayed far away from the one liners. Only major issue I had were a lot of the fight scenes weren't that great. But the way they played out Batman's Mythology and Christian Bale's performance more than made up for it.

Also, The Scarecrow was a wicked villian.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » June 17, 2005, 2:39 pm

I loved both of the Spiderman movies and both X-Men movies, but Batman Begins was just too damned good. I went in with big expectations and it exceeded my expectations in many ways. Batman Begins is the best superhero movie so far and I think that says a lot.

That said I understand how someone could be turned off by the fight scenes, but I thought they were awesome and fit his ninja style...and the theme of fear very well. He is meant to not be seen by his enemies and not being able to see what is kicking your ass just adds more fear to the situation.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » June 19, 2005, 11:03 am

Awesome movie.

The story was extremely tight. My inner comic geek is very hard pressed to find a flaw or loophole that wasn't covered. The drug scarecrow used was absolutely bad-ass. Christian Bale was awesome as fuck. He had exuded "cool confidence" when he was both Bruce Wayne and Batman.

The stellar cast was, much like the characters they played in the film, true supporting players in the Batman story. No one took the spotlight. As a matter of fact, any unknown actors could've played the myriad of supporting roles in this film and you'd hardly have noticed. It wasn't like the old Batman movies where it was JIM CARREY PLAYS RIDDLER!!1! The actors involved were not there for thier star power, but for thier actual ability to act and play the selected roles to a "T".

Furthermore, it was kinda like seeing all these vetren actors supporting Christian Bale as an up and coming actor, much like thier characters supported Bruce Wayne. Sure, He's been around for awhile, but this movie will really launch him into the spotlight like never before.

Even Katie Holme's character was great. She wasn't some "flavor of the week" hottie thrown in as a love interest. She was hard nosed and definately played her part in the creation of Bruce Wayne's alter ego.

Overall, it was an extremely good movie. Better than I could've hoped for. The writers deserve huge accolades for presenting the history of such a complicated character in a timely fashion, using such memorable villians, and really creating a fantastic story with no loopholes.

As a movie, 9 out of 10. As a comic book movie, 10 out of 10. It really raised the bar.

Fesuni Chopsui · Post by **Fesuni Chopsui** » June 19, 2005, 12:34 pm

Best comic movie I've seen yet - absolutely amazing!

Clatis · Post by **Clatis** » June 20, 2005, 9:21 am

I was surprised at how good this movie was. Especially considering every other batman movie has blown.

Kluden · Post by **Kluden** » June 20, 2005, 10:25 am

Yeah, I enjoyed the majority of the flick. There were some parts I could have done without...but overall I will agree that it is up there with the better comic book movies, a la Spiderman I and Superman I.

[hide=question about the ending]So, my major question is this: When Gordon shows him the Joker card at the end, are they referring to the next movie, or are they blending it in with the movies that are already out? I really enjoyed the first Batman movie and did not think there is much wrong with it considering what comic book movie expectations were at the time...but I do hope they are not planning on re-doing Jack's role as the Joker...[/hide]

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » June 20, 2005, 12:31 pm

Gary Oldman as a GOOD GUY??

I can't remember the last time I saw that. He's my favorite actor by far.

EDIT: Just looked at his filmography. I guess I keep missing the films where he's not the bad guy, as he's done enough of them. I do recall Rozencranz and Guildenstern are Dead - great flick.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » June 20, 2005, 1:09 pm

Kluden, this is an entirely new rendition of Batman. There is no corallation between this and any other incarnation before it, including the animated series, comics, TV shows, or films. It will stand on it's own two feet, so to speak.

cid · Post by **cid** » June 20, 2005, 1:18 pm

Awsome movie.

Kluden · Post by **Kluden** » June 20, 2005, 2:05 pm

Thanks for the explanaition Fair...but you forgot to say at the end: "Didn't you get the memo?"

Legenae · Post by **Legenae** » June 20, 2005, 2:48 pm

Saw this movie the other day. Enjoyed it very much. Definitely a "must own" when it comes out on DVD.

Clatis · Post by **Clatis** » June 20, 2005, 5:13 pm

oh yeah i bet there's going to be a sequal

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » June 20, 2005, 7:43 pm

Clatis wrote:oh yeah i bet there's going to be a sequal

Starring Michael Keaton as... Batman!

Kelgar · Post by **Kelgar** » June 21, 2005, 11:20 am

Kithyen wrote:I saw the 10min. preview they aired on the WB. Although I think Christian Bale's voice when he's in the badsuit was a bit cheesy, the rest looked extremely promising. I'm most definitely looking foward to seeing this.

He really overacted that part. Shades of William Shatner there.

Kelgar · Post by **Kelgar** » June 21, 2005, 11:21 am

Ashur wrote:Gary Oldman as a GOOD GUY??

I can't remember the last time I saw that. He's my favorite actor by far.

EDIT: Just looked at his filmography. I guess I keep missing the films where he's not the bad guy, as he's done enough of them. I do recall Rozencranz and Guildenstern are Dead - great flick.

Time flies. He's really beginning to look like an "old man". Hyuck hyuck. Yes, I know that was awful.

edit: Birth Date: 21 March, 1958 Birth Place: New Cross,
London, England

Kelgar · Post by **Kelgar** » June 21, 2005, 11:32 am

Ashur wrote:Gary Oldman as a GOOD GUY??

I can't remember the last time I saw that. He's my favorite actor by far.

EDIT: Just looked at his filmography. I guess I keep missing the films where he's not the bad guy, as he's done enough of them. I do recall Rozencranz and Guildenstern are Dead - great flick.

Sirius Black.

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » June 21, 2005, 1:09 pm

Kelgar wrote:
Kithyen wrote:I saw the 10min. preview they aired on the WB. Although I think Christian Bale's voice when he's in the badsuit was a bit cheesy, the rest looked extremely promising. I'm most definitely looking foward to seeing this.
He really overacted that part. Shades of William Shatner there.

I was thinking it was pretty cheesy as well, but uh, it was probably just to keep people he knew from recognizing his actual voice. So it works.

noel · Post by **noel** » June 21, 2005, 2:20 pm

Curious if anyone knows why Winnow's images are stretching the page. I thought that was fixed...

No knock on Winnow, the pictures are cool... just curious.

Neost · Post by **Neost** » June 21, 2005, 2:26 pm

DOESN'T STRETCH MINE!!11!!FIRRFOX RULZ!!!!111!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 21, 2005, 2:46 pm

noel wrote:Curious if anyone knows why Winnow's images are stretching the page. I thought that was fixed...

No knock on Winnow, the pictures are cool... just curious.

It isn't stretching IE. Anyone else have stretch marks?

noel · Post by **noel** » June 21, 2005, 2:57 pm

Weird. It's only stretching for me in Firefox 1.04, but not in IE.

Neost · Post by **Neost** » June 21, 2005, 3:05 pm

I'm running 1.04, also. Haven't noticed any issues.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » June 21, 2005, 7:34 pm

also 104 and no problems.

found a 2.4gb svcd of batman begins

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » June 23, 2005, 8:52 am

1.04 and it's stretched.

Good movie, not sure if it's worth a 2nd viewing though.

Katie Holme's character was just there for background, not a particularly significant role IMO. Michael Caine had much more impact on the story line.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 23, 2005, 12:49 pm

I switched the image to url links to avoid being obnoxious like some other people with fat-ass avatars, etc.

I'm not sure why these would be stretched as they are in the same format as all of my comic cover images that have been resizing correctly.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » June 25, 2005, 6:36 pm

Just got back from seeign it. Wow. Just Wow.

noel · Post by **noel** » June 25, 2005, 8:14 pm

This movie kicked copious amounts of ass. Easily, easily the best Batman movie ever. Christian Bale was phenomenal, Gary Oldman was fucking Jim Gordon through and through.

I think the thing that made this movie the best for me was the:
[hide]attempt to make everything something real. Batman was a real man, with real gear, and they did a fantastic job coming up with real gear and ways it could all work.[/hide]

Rumor has it that there will be at least two more movies, and Katie Holmes won't be in them because they got pissed at her for all her Tom Cruise/scientology bullshit leading up to the release. Given that I thought her acting was the worst in the movie... no big loss.