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Since this weekend is Memorial Day in the US I wanted to link this story.

Death of a Marine
Death of a Marine
By Jeff Jacoby, Globe Columnist | May 29, 2005

TOMORROW NIGHT, in a special broadcast of ''Nightline," Ted Koppel will call the roll of the more than 900 US troops who have died in Iraq and Afghanistan during the past 12 months. As each name is read, viewers will see a photograph of the fallen soldier. Executive producer Tom Bettag says the program is meant to remind Americans, ''regardless of their feelings about the war, that the men and women who have given their lives in our behalf are individuals with names and faces."

Long lists of soldiers killed in wartime can have great emotional power, as anyone who has been to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington can attest. However dignified and moving, though, in the end such a listing can really describe them only as a group: They wore the uniform and died in the service of their country. But who they were individually, how they served, what they left behind -- that is more than a catalogue of names can convey.

So here is the story behind just one of the names ''Nightline" will enumerate on Memorial Day: Sergeant Rafael Peralta of Alpha Company, 1st Battalion, 3d Marines. He was killed in action on Nov. 15 during Operation Dawn, the epic battle to retake the Sunni stronghold of Fallujah.

What follows is chiefly based on an account by Marine Lance Corporal T.J. Kaemmerer, a combat correspondent who took part in the operation that cost Peralta his life. Reports also appeared in the Los Angeles Times, The Marine Corps Times, The San Diego Union Tribune, and on ABC News.

On the day he died, Rafael Peralta was 25 years old, a Mexican immigrant from San Diego who had enlisted in the Marines as soon as he became a legal resident. He earned his citizenship while on active duty and reupped in 2004. He was a Marine to the core, so meticulous that when Alpha Company was training in Kuwait, he would send his camouflage uniform out to be pressed.

He was no less passionate about his adopted country: His bedroom wall was adorned with a picture of his boot camp graduation and replicas of the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights. ''Be proud of being an American," he wrote to his kid brother Ricardo, 14. ''Our father came to this country and became a citizen because it was the right place for our family to be." It was the first letter he ever wrote to Ricardo -- and the last. It arrived in San Diego the day after he died.

The Marines of the 3d were on the front lines in Fallujah, purging the city of terrorists in house-to-house combat. As a platoon scout, Peralta could have stayed back in relative safety. Instead, as was often the case, he volunteered to join the assault team.

On the morning of Nov. 15, a week into the battle for Fallujah, his squad had cleared three houses without incident. They approached a fourth, kicking in two locked doors simultaneously and entering both front rooms. They found them empty. Another closed door led to an adjoining room. As the other Marines spread out, wrote Kaemmerer, ''Peralta, rifle in hand, tested the handle." It wasn't locked. He threw open the door, preparing to rush in -- and three terrorists with AK-47s opened fire. He was shot multiple times in the chest and face. As he fell, severely wounded, he managed to wrench himself out of the doorway to give his fellow Marines a clear line of fire.

The gunfire was deafening. To the sound of the terrorists' AK-47s was added the din of the Marines' M16 rifles and Squad Automatic Weapon, a machine gun. The battle was raging, with Peralta down and bleeding heavily and the other Marines firing into the back room at the enemy, when, in Kaemmerer's words, ''a yellow, foreign-made, oval-shaped grenade bounced into the room, rolling to a stop close to Peralta's nearly lifeless body."

As the other Marines tried to flee, Peralta reached for the grenade and tucked it into his gut. Seconds later, it exploded with such force that when his remains were returned to his family for burial, they were able to identify him only by the tattoo on his shoulder. But his five comrades-in-arms, shielded from the worst of the blast by Peralta's last act as a Marine, survived.

''Right now, people are really nice and everything," Peralta's 12-year-old sister Karen told a reporter 10 days after her brother's death. ''But I know that when it comes to later on, they are going to forget him. They're going to forget about him."

No, Karen. The Marines, always faithful, do not forget their heroes. And neither does the grateful nation that pauses to honor them this week -- the nation Rafael Peralta loved so deeply, and for which he gave his last full measure of devotion.

Jeff Jacoby's e-mail address is jacoby@globe.com.
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edit - Added this link to USMC Hymn.

http://www.marineband.usmc.mil/download ... s_hymn.mp3
If the Army and the Navy
Ever look on Heaven's scenes;
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Victoria Day is still better because I don't have to work :)
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Post by Nick »

Do we get 100,000 of the pictures of Iraqi's too?

They did the same thing. Or in most cases just got shot for absolutely no legitimate reason.
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Post by Trias »

Nick wrote:Do we get 100,000 of the pictures of Iraqi's too?

They did the same thing. Or in many cases just got shot for absolutely no reason.

i can't wait till you feel sorry for yourself again and stop posting :P
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anyone with a rifle defending their home from marines kicking down their door is a terrorist.

I call it a list of 900 people that probably had it coming to them.
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kyoukan wrote:anyone with a rifle defending their home from marines kicking down their door is a terrorist.

I call it a list of 900 people that probably had it coming to them.
Do you honestly have sucha great contempt for life? Most of the people I've known in the military were kinda tricked into it so they could get money to go through college. Then Bush was voted in, started the war, and extended their lovely little trips to the desert. Perhaps wars like these aren't fought because the soldiers fighting them want to.... but because the politicians want it to be fought. I dont know, perhaps I'm completely wrong there.
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i would say you are wrong. not to invalidate anyone's death, but you don't join the fucking military if you aren't ready to go to war and/or die, be it agreeable or not. its a risk/chance you take when you enlist to save up for college or anything else.
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Yeah, you didn't read the quote I used though. It indicated that they "had it coming" in that they deserved to die manner. Not quite the "those people made a valid choice and paid for it with their lives" type of statement from the way I read it.

Not to mention many joined during the Clinton administration, which was marked by less random military action and more diplomacy.
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kyoukan wrote:anyone with a rifle defending their home from marines kicking down their door is a terrorist.

I call it a list of 900 people that probably had it coming to them.
As long as we keep the 100:1 kill ratio going all is well. We've got quite a few more canadians to kill before we are due to lose an american in training excercises.
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kyoukan wrote:anyone with a rifle defending their home from marines kicking down their door is a terrorist.

I call it a list of 900 people that probably had it coming to them.
I guess the 30,000 Kurds that regime gassed had it coming too. Moron.
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no, they were mostly innocent. much like the close to two hundred thousand civilians that have died in Iraq since you started up your little oil grab.

happy memorial day, murderers.
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First of all....get some facts before you make such wild assed accusations. The highest estimates for civilian deaths is 25,000. Maybe you are using a conversion chart similar to canadian currency, but even then you are just a tad off.

Second, maybe you should look up how many of those casualties are coming from the insurgents using car bombs and other reliable and controlled methods to indiscriminately kill their own people.

Here are some number in May from insurgents killing their own people.

http://icasualties.org/oif/Iraqi.aspx
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nice job on linking a site that only lists coalition casualites. are you really donald rumsfeld or something?
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I guess you have to be smart enough to click on the drop down box that says "civilians". I guess we can call someone to come and help you.
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Post by Kilmoll the Sexy »

Since you are having so many problems, I will help break it down..... for the 3 day period of May 26-28, those poor opressed insurgents killed over 30 Iraqis and wounded well over 100.
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so I'm guessing these really shitty deflection tactics work well on your stupid friends or something? because they are awfully transparent to me, and don't really change the fact that the US military are no more than thugs and killers who blindly follow the orders of a greedy and malicious administration. and given the evidence of photos of how the soldiers behave themselves in places like abu gharib and on the streets, enjoy their job thouroughly.
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The day is supposed to be about remembering the fallen.

Let's leave partisan bickering behind and remember them. Not only those recently fallen but all those who gave their lives in the past for just and unjust causes.

Soldiers usually didn't choose their causes. Regardless they all wanted to protect us.
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Lohrno wrote:The day is supposed to be about remembering the fallen.

Let's leave partisan bickering behind and remember them. Not only those recently fallen but all those who gave their lives in the past for just and unjust causes.

Soldiers usually didn't choose their causes. Regardless they all wanted to protect us.
kyoukan doesn't understand the historical part of this whole thing and only wants to take the opportunity to show off her liberalism.

At minimum, she could show some respect for the WW2 fallen that allow her to continue her whining. You should take the day to give a flower to someone in yoru rapidly weakening candadian military if you can find one and acknowlege your total dependance on the United States for your security.

Despite a few worthless people like kyoukan living in canada, I respect the contributions of Canada in past wars except the ones against us where they raped, razed and slaughtered innocents on their way to desecrating our capital.
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Post by Kilmoll the Sexy »

I guess you can't come up with any facts proving your case so you resort to making baseless claims and ridiculous allegations that every military member is a criminal. Gratz you. Even those who think you are the greatest poster on the planet know you are full of shit.
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Let's remember Kilmoll that the "regime" you talk about was fucking supported by the US, not to mention supplied with weapons made by the US.

Your arguments lack basic historical knowledge.

The point is, the US has no fucking problem showing a picture of every US soldier who has died in an invasion (like when Germany invaded Poland) you instigated whilst flat out depersonalising the FAR HUGER amount of innocent dead brown people that dared live in a country less free than the USA.

Numbers of dead Iraqis is not something you seemed to hold any relevance to before, in fact trying to justify any deaths is just plain fucking STUPID. Please try and justify 100,000 or 25,000. You can't.

You are meant to be a benevolent society, I don't know many benevolent people who turn round and say, "but we only killed 25,000 innocent people".

Memorial day? You only want to commemorate the people born in your own country, which is fucking sick and weird.

I wouldn't go so far as to say every soldier deserves a bullet, but every soldier who went to Iraq is a fucking moron for associating themselves with one of the most embarassing and murderous situations your country has found itself in.

I don't like seeing anyone die, but the selective hysteria over who to fucking care about is just retarded in the EXTREME.
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now here comes the liberal accusations, because you fucking lamers don't have anything else to fall back on. and of course the tard brigade drags out the tired old WW2 bravado (the second to last morally justified war the US fought in), like the original poster of this thread even remotely mentioned WW2 veterans, and instead tried to fucking grandstand some shitty marine in fallujah that some guy defending his home used as target practice because he was too fucking stupid to use proper entry procedures while clearing out buidlings.
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Winnow wrote:
Lohrno wrote:The day is supposed to be about remembering the fallen.

Let's leave partisan bickering behind and remember them. Not only those recently fallen but all those who gave their lives in the past for just and unjust causes.

Soldiers usually didn't choose their causes. Regardless they all wanted to protect us.
kyoukan doesn't understand the historical part of this whole thing and only wants to take the opportunity to show off her liberalism.

At minimum, she could show some respect for the WW2 fallen that allow her to continue her whining. You should take the day to give a flower to someone in yoru rapidly weakening candadian military if you can find one and acknowlege your total dependance on the United States for your security.

Despite a few worthless people like kyoukan living in canada, I respect the contributions of Canada in past wars except the ones against us where they raped, razed and slaughtered innocents on their way to desecrating our capital.
At least we're not the ones who looted your capital- you guys did that yourselves! :P

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kyoukan wrote:now here comes the liberal accusations, because you fucking lamers don't have anything else to fall back on. and of course the tard brigade drags out the tired old WW2 bravado (the second to last morally justified war the US fought in), like the original poster of this thread even remotely mentioned WW2 veterans, and instead tried to fucking grandstand some shitty marine in fallujah that some guy defending his home used as target practice because he was too fucking stupid to use proper entry procedures while clearing out buidlings.
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Kyoukan...

You just suck for being the bitch you are by making your attitude political on a day that isn't about politics.

I sure hope you knew someone who died in a past conflict, and go spit on their grave to remember them. That's sure to make you happy.
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I guess I will ask again for the stupid ones among us (read: most of you)

exactly how is the original post in this thread about past wars and not a cheap attempt at sugar coating your current murderous quagmire in Iraq?

I have a tremendous amount of respect for soldiers who fought for just causes in the defense of freedom and liberty.
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kyoukan wrote:I guess I will ask again for the stupid ones among us (read: most of you)

exactly how is the original post in this thread about past wars and not a cheap attempt at sugar coating your current murderous quagmire in Iraq?

I have a tremendous amount of respect for soldiers who fought for just causes in the defense of freedom and liberty.
So, Memorial Day to you is about selective rememberance of those that have fallen. Some deserve to be remembered while others don't?

That's really pathetic on your part Kyoukan, surely you realize that.

Anyway, don't want to turn this into an argument. I'm done here.
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Post by Nick »

Umm..did you read this thread?

Selective rememberance is exactly the point being raised.
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Post by Kilmoll the Sexy »

Maybe because it is a US holiday? And maybe....just maybe...we don't feel the need to celebrate idiot suicide bombers who are killing more of their own civilians than we could ever hope to. I am sure the liberals are happy to have gullible idiots like you who believe their skewed numbers and propaganda. I posted the link to facts. You count them up and then you come and post the numbers of how many have died from from the insurgents and then I might care what you have to say.
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Well it's not like we haven't had a similar thread here every other Memorial Day. The simplest thing to do "to remember those who have fallen" is to not respond to (what you feel happens to be) troll posts.
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we don't feel the need to celebrate idiot suicide bombers who are killing more of their own civilians than we could ever hope to
Ahahahahahahahhaha are you really that stupid?
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anyone: my political view is different than yours; in fact, i disagree with you on how nice the weather is today

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Nick wrote:
we don't feel the need to celebrate idiot suicide bombers who are killing more of their own civilians than we could ever hope to
Ahahahahahahahhaha are you really that stupid?
Wow, who saw that coming? Calling someone stupid for having a differing opinion. LOL
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If the cause is just then honor the fallen, if not then no honor.

This argument over soldiers not having a choice is crap. Do we honor the Nazi soldiers that had even less of a choice to serve or not? I'm sure among the millions that died there were plenty of good and valiant men but they served for an unjust cause. While I reserve most of my criticism for the leadership and I can empathize with the position they were in I certainly don't honor them.
Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:First of all....get some facts before you make such wild assed accusations. The highest estimates for civilian deaths is 25,000. Maybe you are using a conversion chart similar to canadian currency, but even then you are just a tad off.
Iraq Body count lists civilian deaths as min 21834, max 24776. This is not an estimate but confirmed kills. The min-max margin represents deaths where it was not positively determined if the person was a civilian or military. The Lancet study of 100,000+ was an estimate.
Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:Second, maybe you should look up how many of those casualties are coming from the insurgents using car bombs and other reliable and controlled methods to indiscriminately kill their own people.
Outside of a few religious assassinations most of the violence seems to be targeting US military, Iraqi military, Iraqi police and Iraqi politicians. Hardly indiscriminant IMO. Viewing those Iraqis that are working with the invading country as traitors isn't a difficult position to empathize with, I certainly would if my country was invaded. All reasonable targets IMO.

A prowar person like yourself bringing up civilian deaths from the insurgency is laughable. Do you believe that collateral damage is only acceptable when it is yours?
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It's not a differing opinion Midnyte, it is factually innacurate. That is why its funny, because it's so ridiculously innacurate.

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How should we remember vets that took the opportunity of the cover of war to rape and murder civillians? Let's not be naive here and pretend that all soldiers are decent human beings OR that they're all rabid baby killers. There's definitely a need for objective assessment of individual vets as well as collective respect for the way the majority behave.

There is a vast difference between someone posting a general rememberance of the contribution our veterans have made to the freedoms we enjoy today, versus posting a specific story about a specific person in a specific war and daring anyone to object on the basis of being disrespectful to the concept of veterans day and all the honourable men and women that fought in the military.

This thread was pure flame-bait and was successful.
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Nick wrote: Glad to see your still looking after me Trias :) I'll have some more used tissues for u soon, don't worry, you'll get your fix.
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We honor them for preserving our way of life which means keeping the oil flowing and at a reasonable price.

Canadians are as much to blame as anyone else for our situation. Your dumbass scientists haven't found an effective alternative energy source. Must Americans do everything? Why don't you canucks make a name for your country and provide a solution that rids the world from its oil dependance?

Until you do, shut your traps about how we handle the situation as you're just whining about something you could help fix. Right now, you're just growing your oil refinery business. Nice work! Keep it coming!

In the meantime, this is an American holiday. When someone cares enough to post a canadian holiday thread...well noone cares about those. Disrespectful saps. Just be sure to keep sending us your oil without problems and you can live in peace up there. You're useful to us as long as we're sucking you dry of your natural resources.

Go chop down some trees or something.
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you'd think you would get at least a little better at trolling after trying so hard for so long, winnow. but like everything else you attempt at in life, you just suck at it.

your shit posts not really even worth responding to, but I like to remind you every once in awhile of your utter lack of value as a human being.
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On Memorial Day, I think of my grandfather who pissed off the state of Mississippi by flying under a bridge in Greenwood, shattering windows in his fighter....that was tight, I am trying to get ahold of some pictures.

This dude was a super stud. He flew ~140 mission in fighters and bombers over Italy...acheiving the Silver Star, Bronze Star, 2 Purple Hearts and various other battle awards.

This guy was insane, and Scottish.... he ended up flying crop dusters until he was forced to retire at 62. He died in '95. Man, I miss that guy, he was a blast to hang out with as a kid. James McPhearson was a true hero right out of the books....and the guy could catch the shit out of catfish, as any Mississippian should.

As to current events--I was fishing with a friend of mine, who is due for a 12-month deployment in Afghanistan...he is not leaving until later this year... man, I am glad he is not going to Iraq...that is some fucked up shit. Still though, our soldiers have no business over there at this point. We acheived our goal, already, of .......nothing.

FFS, these washington bozos need to die. Our troops are getting killed for nothing over 'there'. Our fighting men and women are doing their duty for no damn good reason at all and it makes me sick. I am sick of my friends getting sent over to the middle east and I am damn sure sick of these fucking retarded jesus-humping nazis....and the same goes for those vegan pieces of tofu-ridden filth.


Basically, fuck all ya'll motherfuckers and bring me a steak.

This Memorial Day, I salute our fighting troops and take a nice healthy Franzia-layden piss on hippies and conservative nazis alike. Fuck you all, fuck you all in the ass.
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Lol well said Canelek :)
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Forthe wrote:Outside of a few religious assassinations most of the violence seems to be targeting US military, Iraqi military, Iraqi police and Iraqi politicians. Hardly indiscriminant IMO. Viewing those Iraqis that are working with the invading country as traitors isn't a difficult position to empathize with, I certainly would if my country was invaded. All reasonable targets IMO.

A prowar person like yourself bringing up civilian deaths from the insurgency is laughable. Do you believe that collateral damage is only acceptable when it is yours?
You are full of shit. Why is it so tough for you and Teeny and Kyoukan to actually open the link and start adding it up? Are you afraid you might find that you are indeed wrong?
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suicide bombers who are killing more of their own civilians than we could ever hope to.
Interesting choice of words.
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I love watching the fur fly. :)
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Zaelath wrote:How should we remember vets that took the opportunity of the cover of war to rape and murder civillians? Let's not be naive here and pretend that all soldiers are decent human beings OR that they're all rabid baby killers. There's definitely a need for objective assessment of individual vets as well as collective respect for the way the majority behave.
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The day is not only about the soldiers in Iraq like the original post makes it sound for those who are questioning the "day" because of that post. It is about the memory of all soldiers throughout history who were killed in war. Here's a lil post I found online to give some perspective:
Memorial Day, originally called Decoration Day, is a day of remembrance for those who have died in our nation's service. There are many stories as to its actual beginnings, with over two dozen cities and towns laying claim to being the birthplace of Memorial Day. There is also evidence that organized women's groups in the South were decorating graves before the end of the Civil War: a hymn published in 1867, "Kneel Where Our Loves are Sleeping" by Nella L. Sweet carried the dedication "To The Ladies of the South who are Decorating the Graves of the Confederate Dead" (Source: Duke University's Historic American Sheet Music, 1850-1920). While Waterloo N.Y. was officially declared the birthplace of Memorial Day by President Lyndon Johnson in May 1966, it's difficult to prove conclusively the origins of the day. It is more likely that it had many separate beginnings; each of those towns and every planned or spontaneous gathering of people to honor the war dead in the 1860's tapped into the general human need to honor our dead, each contributed honorably to the growing movement that culminated in Gen Logan giving his official proclamation in 1868. It is not important who was the very first, what is important is that Memorial Day was established. Memorial Day is not about division. It is about reconciliation; it is about coming together to honor those who gave their all.

General John A. Logan
Library of Congress, Prints & Photographs Division, [LC-B8172- 6403 DLC (b&w film neg.)]

Memorial Day was officially proclaimed on 5 May 1868 by General John Logan, national commander of the Grand Army of the Republic, in his General Order No. 11, and was first observed on 30 May 1868, when flowers were placed on the graves of Union and Confederate soldiers at Arlington National Cemetery. The first state to officially recognize the holiday was New York in 1873. By 1890 it was recognized by all of the northern states. The South refused to acknowledge the day, honoring their dead on separate days until after World War I (when the holiday changed from honoring just those who died fighting in the Civil War to honoring Americans who died fighting in any war). It is now celebrated in almost every State on the last Monday in May (passed by Congress with the National Holiday Act of 1971 (P.L. 90 - 363) to ensure a three day weekend for Federal holidays), though several southern states have an additional separate day for honoring the Confederate war dead: January 19 in Texas, April 26 in Alabama, Florida, Georgia, and Mississippi; May 10 in South Carolina; and June 3 (Jefferson Davis' birthday) in Louisiana and Tennessee.

In 1915, inspired by the poem "In Flanders Fields," Moina Michael replied with her own poem:



We cherish too, the Poppy red
That grows on fields where valor led,
It seems to signal to the skies
That blood of heroes never dies.


She then conceived of an idea to wear red poppies on Memorial day in honor of those who died serving the nation during war. She was the first to wear one, and sold poppies to her friends and co-workers with the money going to benefit servicemen in need. Later a Madam Guerin from France was visiting the United States and learned of this new custom started by Ms.Michael and when she returned to France, made artificial red poppies to raise money for war orphaned children and widowed women. This tradition spread to other countries. In 1921, the Franco-American Children's League sold poppies nationally to benefit war orphans of France and Belgium. The League disbanded a year later and Madam Guerin approached the VFW for help. Shortly before Memorial Day in 1922 the VFW became the first veterans' organization to nationally sell poppies. Two years later their "Buddy" Poppy program was selling artificial poppies made by disabled veterans. In 1948 the US Post Office honored Ms Michael for her role in founding the National Poppy movement by issuing a red 3 cent postage stamp with her likeness on it.
Traditional observance of Memorial day has diminished over the years. Many Americans nowadays have forgotten the meaning and traditions of Memorial Day. At many cemeteries, the graves of the fallen are increasingly ignored, neglected. Most people no longer remember the proper flag etiquette for the day. While there are towns and cities that still hold Memorial Day parades, many have not held a parade in decades. Some people think the day is for honoring any and all dead, and not just those fallen in service to our country.

There are a few notable exceptions. Since the late 50's on the Thursday before Memorial Day, the 1,200 soldiers of the 3d U.S. Infantry place small American flags at each of the more than 260,000 gravestones at Arlington National Cemetery. They then patrol 24 hours a day during the weekend to ensure that each flag remains standing. In 1951, the Boy Scouts and Cub Scouts of St. Louis began placing flags on the 150,000 graves at Jefferson Barracks National Cemetery as an annual Good Turn, a practice that continues to this day. More recently, beginning in 1998, on the Saturday before the observed day for Memorial Day, the Boys Scouts and Girl Scouts place a candle at each of approximately 15,300 grave sites of soldiers buried at Fredericksburg and Spotsylvania National Military Park on Marye's Heights (the Luminaria Program). And in 2004, Washington D.C. held its first Memorial Day parade in over 60 years.

To help re-educate and remind Americans of the true meaning of Memorial Day, the "National Moment of Remembrance" resolution was passed on Dec 2000 which asks that at 3 p.m. local time, for all Americans "To voluntarily and informally observe in their own way a Moment of remembrance and respect, pausing from whatever they are doing for a moment of silence or listening to 'Taps."

The Moment of Remembrance is a step in the right direction to returning the meaning back to the day. What is needed is a full return to the original day of observance. Set aside one day out of the year for the nation to get together to remember, reflect and honor those who have given their all in service to their country.

But what may be needed to return the solemn, and even sacred, spirit back to Memorial Day is for a return to its traditional day of observance. Many feel that when Congress made the day into a three-day weekend in with the National Holiday Act of 1971, it made it all the easier for people to be distracted from the spirit and meaning of the day. As the VFW stated in its 2002 Memorial Day address: "Changing the date merely to create three-day weekends has undermined the very meaning of the day. No doubt, this has contributed greatly to the general public's nonchalant observance of Memorial Day."

On January 19, 1999 Senator Inouye introduced bill S 189 to the Senate which proposes to restore the traditional day of observance of Memorial Day back to May 30th instead of "the last Monday in May". On April 19, 1999 Representative Gibbons introduced the bill to the House (H.R. 1474). The bills were referred the Committee on the Judiciary and the Committee on Government Reform.
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Kilmoll: I tried to go to that website in order to discover the number of Iraqi civilians that have been killed by insurgents. Despite the fact that it has a wealth of information regarding coalition deaths, its information on civilian deaths is sparse. In fact, the only information it has is a listing of news articles (which the website itself warns is neither complete nor authoritative) about civilian deaths. That is not statistics.
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Sueven wrote:Kilmoll: I tried to go to that website in order to discover the number of Iraqi civilians that have been killed by insurgents. Despite the fact that it has a wealth of information regarding coalition deaths, its information on civilian deaths is sparse. In fact, the only information it has is a listing of news articles (which the website itself warns is neither complete nor authoritative) about civilian deaths. That is not statistics.
I couldn't find that info either.
That site is horribly designed.
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You are looking at the data links at the top of the page. Go to the site I linked and click the drop down box for Iraqi Civilians. That takes you to the page that links every attack the insurgents have committed that has killed civilians. They have not done a count like they have with the coalition deaths and other numbers.
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kyoukan wrote:you'd think you would get at least a little better at trolling after trying so hard for so long, winnow. but like everything else you attempt at in life, you just suck at it.

your shit posts not really even worth responding to, but I like to remind you every once in awhile of your utter lack of value as a human being.
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