Saudis pulling an Iran, the outrage is where?

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » May 20, 2005, 10:42 am

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/05/ ... audi.reut/

Saudi Arabia said on Wednesday it wants to sign an obscure agreement that the U.N. nuclear watchdog has warned could keep international inspectors from monitoring any atomic activities within its borders

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » May 20, 2005, 10:49 am

It's okay. They're our allies! Like Iraq was.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » May 20, 2005, 3:05 pm

Let's also turn our heads to their blatantly illegal and atrocious human rights record.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » May 20, 2005, 3:34 pm

Nick wrote:Let's also turn our heads to their blatantly illegal and atrocious human rights record.

Can Do!!!

Nick · Post by **Nick** » May 20, 2005, 3:45 pm

Ok, we're all set, now we only need some false intel and McIran will be up and running any day!

I'm loving it!

miir · Post by **miir** » May 20, 2005, 3:55 pm

Maybe the ummm... need the nuclear stuff for like... ummm... power or something!!

Yeah thats it!

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » May 20, 2005, 4:08 pm

What? They're developing power? Bomb them!

Oh, you might want to start conditioning your kids now to hate the Saudis and Pakistan, and any of the other "allies" the U.S. is currently arming. It'll make it easier on the government when they have to sell a war with them in the next 15 years.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » May 20, 2005, 4:55 pm

The entire Middle East, including Israel, are all wankers.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » May 20, 2005, 5:39 pm

Sadly, their control over oil in that area may get them some relaxed inspection standards. I think that's total bs though. Any country, including those who already had developed nuclear capabilities (weapons/power/etc.) should face the same types of regular inspections. If there is no way to reliably remove any trace of weapons, there is a reason to do the inspections. While the State may not directly support nuclear weapons development, there will almost always be some in the region (not just the Middle East) that does.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » May 21, 2005, 9:44 am

"It's okay. They're our allies! Like Iraq was."

Funny how the story is about the U.N not the U.S. But its okay keep fishing.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » May 21, 2005, 3:21 pm

That's because if it was about the US, it would included GW Bush down on all fours giving prince abdallah a rim job while another 40 saudi terrorists snuck into the US behind his back to plan another attack.

But you stupid fucking rightie robots won't even think about saudi arabia until your war hero president allows you to.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » May 21, 2005, 3:26 pm

Wow.

K F T W

Tangurena · Post by **Tangurena** » May 21, 2005, 10:37 pm

0 of the 19 hijackers on 911 were Iraqi. 15 of the 19 hijackers on 911 were Saudis. So we invaded Iraq instead. Like a cheap movie where the bad guy says (to the guy who screwed up) "this is the price of failure", then turns, and shoots the guy standing next to the guy who screwed up.

This book explains the incestuous relations between the bush family and the Saudis. This book explains the connection between the Saudis and global terrorism.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » May 21, 2005, 10:59 pm

kyoukan wrote:That's because if it was about the US, it would included GW Bush down on all fours giving prince abdallah a rim job while another 40 saudi terrorists snuck into the US behind his back to plan another attack.

But you stupid fucking rightie robots won't even think about saudi arabia until your war hero president allows you to.

Hmmm So a Few Saudis commit a terrorist act and the whole country is guilty? Wow The irony!!!!

Whos the Racist now?

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » May 22, 2005, 12:15 am

Cartalas wrote:
kyoukan wrote:That's because if it was about the US, it would included GW Bush down on all fours giving prince abdallah a rim job while another 40 saudi terrorists snuck into the US behind his back to plan another attack.

But you stupid fucking rightie robots won't even think about saudi arabia until your war hero president allows you to.

Hmmm So a Few Saudis commit a terrorist act and the whole country is guilty? Wow The irony!!!!

Whos the Racist now?

haha

So true. So true. It's okay to label entire groups of people if you are an anti-american, anti-bush person.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » May 22, 2005, 12:24 am

saudi arabia has a population of 40?

if not, i don't see where she labelled the whole country a terrorist nation.

Lohrno · Post by **Lohrno** » May 22, 2005, 12:36 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:So true. So true. It's okay to label entire groups of people if you are an anti-american, anti-bush person.

You don't think the Bush's have an unhealthy relationship with the Saudi royal family?

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » May 22, 2005, 12:43 am

Only the blind and the foolish refuse to admit to the links between Saudi and terrorism.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » May 22, 2005, 2:32 am

Oh my god that is retarded Midnyte.

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » May 22, 2005, 4:37 am

So true. So true. It's okay to label entire groups of people if you are an anti-american, anti-bush person. Rolling Eyes

Fuck Muslims

Yeah.

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » May 22, 2005, 1:45 pm

Kelshara wrote:Only the blind and the foolish refuse to admit to the links between Saudi and terrorism.

I agree.

We should do something about this.

You start Kelshara. Give me one concrete reasonable proposal for dealing with this situation.

I'm listening.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » May 22, 2005, 1:57 pm

Not supporting one of the most oppressive regimes on the planet and imposing sanctions until they sort their fucking attitude to their people?

Or possibly reforming the country from the bottom up so an elite oligarchy doesn't own everything whilst keeping the rest of the country poor, oppressed and uneducated?

If regime change is an issue for the USA, they should have sorted the Saudis out before touching Iraq, but then again double standards are the norm.

Just off the top of my head here.....

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » May 22, 2005, 2:42 pm

Nick wrote:Not supporting one of the most oppressive regimes on the planet and imposing sanctions until they sort their fucking attitude to their people?

Or possibly reforming the country from the top down so an elite oligarchy doesn't own everything whilst keeping the rest of the country poor, oppressed and uneducated?

If regime change is an issue for the USA, they should have sorted the Saudis out before touching Iraq, but then again double standards are the norm.

Just off the top of my head here.....

Hahahaha! Your cluelessness takes my breath away. Were you oxygen dreprived as an infant? Your father beat you with a cane? Lead-based paints in the home?

By the way, thanks for the permission for the USA to take down any government which we perceive to be oppressive; or has elitist leadership; or which just has a bad attitude toward it's people.

Half of Europe is fair game and a substantial share of the rest of the world. Maybe it would be easier if you just give us the short list of countries you feel should remain sovereign nations?

Carry on, my work here is done.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » May 22, 2005, 2:52 pm

so are you actually going to refute what he said or are you just going to suck and blow more wind? or is that a stupid question?

Nick · Post by **Nick** » May 22, 2005, 2:56 pm

That really is a new low Metanis, congratulations on being such a retard.

What you fail to realise is that if Europe is fair game, so is the US. Of course this only has any relevance if you're a warmongering FUCKWIT.
You either conveniently ignored or maybe just couldn't understand the gist of my post, which was painfully obvious in it's message.

It's not my fault you are too much of a cretin to realise it, or indeed be in any way capable of backing up your laughably uneducated points of view.
Or indeed be capable of accepting realistically optimistic alternatives to the "KILL THEM ALL" attitude you so clearly support.

I'll say this one more time for your benefit. I shouldn't bother, but I will.
So sit down, shut the fuck up and listen you idiotic simpleton.

I was pointing out the hypocrisy involved in dealings with Saudi Arabia or (another example) Israel and dealings with Iran/Iraq or even Palestine.

That is a fucking truth and the entire point of this thread.
Unforgiveable hypocrisy.
If you failed to grasp that, I feel sorry for you. Really, you must live under a fucking rock.

If you feel its ok to invade countries like Iraq and support murdering oppressors like Israel and Saudi Arabia, then fail to understand why there are people flying into your fucking buildings for very good fucking reasons, whilst ignoring realistic easy ways to fix this problem, then NO ONE will be able to show you shit. Only the stupidest people on the goddamn planet haven't realised this yet. Of which for some reason the oh so educated USA (read - biggest army) has plenty.

You're ignorance of anything outside your own gun happy little shithole of a state obviously ends at "LOL YOU GAVE US PERMISSION TO BOMB SOMEONE ELSE". I mean really, what the fuck type of asshole apart from you takes what I wrote to mean that?

Are you entirely blind to other countries records for Human Rights and Corruption? That's really sad. Mentioning Europe compared to Saudi Arabia or even the US is hilarious in it's ignorance. Thanks for the joke.

The benefits of living in a country such as the US are obviously made into negatives by people like you when the freedom to be as much of a fucking imbecile is so easy. You sound like a mental neanderthal.

But yeah, go ahead and think you're full of intellect (hahahaha good one), Ignorance is indeed bliss.

By the way, only uneducated retards buy the shit you fall for. The very alarming fact you think you are so fucking worldly shows nothing more than the overwhelming arrogance and stupidity you have ingrained into that stupid fucking slob of a mind of yours. Although it also shows the propoganda machine has done a good job on the less mentally alert.

Your work hasn't even started yet shit for brains.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » May 22, 2005, 10:50 pm

kyoukan wrote:so are you actually going to refute what I said or are you just going to suck and blow more wind? or is that a stupid question?

Fuck Off you Racist cunt!! That is all

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » May 22, 2005, 11:03 pm

You start Kelshara. Give me one concrete reasonable proposal for dealing with this situation.

Simple. Spend more money on moving away from the need for oil. Once you don't need oil anymore the Saudi wont have you by the balls.

Of course, you need to get the oil guys out of the government first.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » May 22, 2005, 11:49 pm

Kelshara wrote:
You start Kelshara. Give me one concrete reasonable proposal for dealing with this situation.
Simple. Spend more money on moving away from the need for oil. Once you don't need oil anymore the Saudi wont have you by the balls.

Of course, you need to get the oil guys out of the government first.

Agreed. Progress needs to be made to move away from oil. Hybrid cars are proof it is happening. It will take time as all technology does. With oil lovers in government it will take no longer than anything else, because all progress has people in power positions trying to stop it because they benefit from the thing that could be replaced. It will happen. It all comes around to the same principals, time and time again......Look long term. Don't get all excited over little examples, get excited over the long term, the big picture.

Progress in technology, democracy in the middle east in the big bigture.....in the long term are great things. We have a great things to look forward to. If we could only have less negative assholes misrepresenting the good and discounting the good, we all could enjoy it a lot more.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » May 22, 2005, 11:51 pm

I agree that people should be optimistic but what about people who ignore the bad?

What happens then?

9/11

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » May 23, 2005, 12:48 am

Kelshara wrote:Simple. Spend more money on moving away from the need for oil. Once you don't need oil anymore the Saudi wont have you by the balls.

http://www.ethanolrfa.org/eth_prod_fac.html

Kelshara wrote: Of course, you need to get the oil guys out of the government first.

You need to examine this contention. Why should any person or group of people be forced to act against their own self-interest? I'm not advocating they run roughshod, but oil guys are ubiquitous precisely because their product is a huge component to our economy.

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » May 23, 2005, 1:42 am

Metanis wrote: Hahahaha! Your cluelessness takes my breath away. Were you oxygen dreprived as an infant? Your father beat you with a cane? Lead-based paints in the home?

By the way, thanks for the permission for the USA to take down any government which we perceive to be oppressive; or has elitist leadership; or which just has a bad attitude toward it's people.

Half of Europe is fair game and a substantial share of the rest of the world. Maybe it would be easier if you just give us the short list of countries you feel should remain sovereign nations?

Carry on, my work here is done.

Uh, I favored the invasion of Iraq both times, but the second one had more controversy, but it was still something that took quite a while to come about (10+ years of UN resolutions being snubbed and so on).

Your attitude about America's justifications are just scary.

Short of a direct attack on US soil or a country we have a defense treaty with, or overt actions designed to damage US interests, I don't think we should just go charging at will into any country without the UN having some opportunity to resolve the situation.

If the UN fails, then I think more direct action can be considered or taken. It's just a problem with interpretation of what consitutes a failure that causes the controversy.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » May 23, 2005, 4:56 am

Metanis wrote:
Kelshara wrote:Simple. Spend more money on moving away from the need for oil. Once you don't need oil anymore the Saudi wont have you by the balls.
http://www.ethanolrfa.org/eth_prod_fac.html

Kelshara wrote: Of course, you need to get the oil guys out of the government first.
You need to examine this contention. Why should any person or group of people be forced to act against their own self-interest? I'm not advocating they run roughshod, but oil guys are ubiquitous precisely because their product is a huge component to our economy.

It's not a matter of acting against their interests, it's a matter of them paying your officials to act against YOUR interests.

Oh, wait, yes, you have a perfect democracy. It's all about what the people want.

AHAHAHCUNTHEADHAHAHAHA

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » May 23, 2005, 7:57 am

Nick wrote:I agree that people should be optimistic but what about people who ignore the bad?

What happens then?

9/11

Indeed.

Not asking anyone to ignore, just not to harp on the bad all the time. Way too many people do.

Tangurena · Post by **Tangurena** » May 24, 2005, 1:56 am

Fuel ethanol, as is produced in the USA, uses more energy to make than would have been generated by burning the fuel consumed growing the grain, irrigating the grain, brewing it (into 'shine) and making the fertilizer used. Gasahol and ethanol are boondoggles that exist only by huge government subsidies. How can places like Brazil make it at an energy profit (getting more energy out than they put into making it)? They don't use the fertilizers we use and they don't heat the brewing plants with natural gas. Here in the USA, we get 8 gallons of gas of energy out for putting 10 gallons of gas of energy in. But that doesn't stop companies like ADM from getting hundreds of millions of dollars per year in corporate welfare.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » May 25, 2005, 8:16 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Cartalas wrote:
kyoukan wrote:That's because if it was about the US, it would included GW Bush down on all fours giving prince abdallah a rim job while another 40 saudi terrorists snuck into the US behind his back to plan another attack.

But you stupid fucking rightie robots won't even think about saudi arabia until your war hero president allows you to.

Hmmm So a Few Saudis commit a terrorist act and the whole country is guilty? Wow The irony!!!!

Whos the Racist now?

haha

So true. So true. It's okay to label entire groups of people if you are an anti-american, anti-bush person.

pardon me while I vomit...

... the blatant hypocracy by which you two spout your bullshit is mindboggling. How dare you accuse others of bigotry when you yourselves hold the fuckin trophy? 'Dont judge an entire nation by 40 members' OMFG NO SHIT??!?? practice what you preach pigfuckers.

I'm gonna serve you crispies a plateful of clue with a side of FUCK YOU. the FACT is 80% of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudi. No matter how much spin you puppets try to put on it, the FACT remains that the people who attacked the USA were Saudis. Do you even fucking care? On the one hand, you blindly support a war on a sovereign nation with NO TIES to 9/11 and yet on the other hand, you let Saudi (the guilty party) off the hook with no concern whatsoever. This speaks volumes upon volumes of your susceptibility to propaganda, your disregard for truth, your lack of understanding of justice, and your complete dereliction with reality. What a fucking slap in the face to those of us who are the true patriots of this country, what a fucking slap in the face to the pursuers of truth and justice, WHAT A FUCKING SLAP IN THE FACE TO THE VICTIMS OF 9/11.

You are a disgrace to this nation.

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » May 25, 2005, 9:38 am

wow, Xyun. That was a great post.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » May 25, 2005, 12:58 pm

Xyun wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Cartalas wrote:
kyoukan wrote:That's because if it was about the US, it would included GW Bush down on all fours giving prince abdallah a rim job while another 40 saudi terrorists snuck into the US behind his back to plan another attack.

But you stupid fucking rightie robots won't even think about saudi arabia until your war hero president allows you to.

Hmmm So a Few Saudis commit a terrorist act and the whole country is guilty? Wow The irony!!!!

Whos the Racist now?

haha

So true. So true. It's okay to label entire groups of people if you are an anti-american, anti-bush person.
pardon me while I vomit...

... the blatant hypocracy by which you two spout your bullshit is mindboggling. How dare you accuse others of bigotry when you yourselves hold the fuckin trophy? 'Dont judge an entire nation by 40 members' OMFG NO SHIT??!?? practice what you preach pigfuckers.

I'm gonna serve you crispies a plateful of clue with a side of FUCK YOU. the FACT is 80% of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudi. No matter how much spin you puppets try to put on it, the FACT remains that the people who attacked the USA were Saudis. Do you even fucking care? On the one hand, you blindly support a war on a sovereign nation with NO TIES to 9/11 and yet on the other hand, you let Saudi (the guilty party) off the hook with no concern whatsoever. This speaks volumes upon volumes of your susceptibility to propaganda, your disregard for truth, your lack of understanding of justice, and your complete dereliction with reality. What a fucking slap in the face to those of us who are the true patriots of this country, what a fucking slap in the face to the pursuers of truth and justice, WHAT A FUCKING SLAP IN THE FACE TO THE VICTIMS OF 9/11.

You are a disgrace to this nation.

That was our point you coke snorting cumstain you accuse us of attacking Iraq because of a few bad Iraqis one of them happens to be the leader, You accuse us of labeling all muslims bad because of 911 and hence your little lefty friends do the same.

So Kindly fuck off

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » May 25, 2005, 1:05 pm

that made no fucking sense cartalas.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » May 25, 2005, 1:18 pm

What's new?

miir · Post by **miir** » May 25, 2005, 2:45 pm

Nick wrote:What's new?

I honestly think Cart does a lot of pretty harsh drugs.
It's the most logical explanation for the incoherent babble he continually posts.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » May 25, 2005, 4:15 pm

Sylvos wrote:that made no fucking sense cartalas.

Actually it made perfect sense. It simply spelled out the point of my post, which should have been easy enough to grasp if it weren't viewed through such eyes of hatred toward me.

What many of you assholes should try doing, is reading the post before you read the author. Then after reading the post, don't look up to see who the author is and then change the way in which you have interpreted(sp?) it. It is hard, I know. I often have knee jerk reactions when I see something was posted by kyocunt, etc. but it can be done.

Back on topic...so many of you labelers (ie: the ones who so easily call me a racist, bigot, or what not) do not see that by doing so they are actually perpetrating the act in which they are so vehemently spouting off against.

You are some smart people here, take a breath and be adult enough to admit you do this. If you cannot, then you are the close minded, eliteist fucks you so strongly try and portray yourselves to be against everyday on this board.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » May 25, 2005, 4:23 pm

I think what Xyun is trying to say is that we should wipe out the entire Middle East because even the closest thing we have to allies there are actually terrorists who want to blow us up at the first oppurtunity.

Personally, I think we should focus our efforts on alternate energy forms and once we perfect it, then we go nucular on those brownies.

Lohrno · Post by **Lohrno** » May 25, 2005, 4:28 pm

Well Midnyte you almost make a point except that we're talking about Cartalas here.

So I will humor you and say that he almost made a point.

But first he had to call someone a crackwhore cumstain or something.
(Which is 90% the reason I do have him on ignore.)

Then he tries to assert that we went to war because of Saddam.

I think you should read this.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » May 25, 2005, 4:41 pm

GW Bush down on all fours giving prince abdallah a rim job

Ew!! Thx Kyou, image.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » May 25, 2005, 4:47 pm

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:Personally, I think we should focus our efforts on alternate energy forms and once we perfect it, then we go nucular on those brownies.

The Wahabis in and from Arabia are the root of the problem, that and our cash that pays for them to spread their disease. There really aren't that many actual Arabs around, they've just got a lot of money to export\preach their warped version of Islam. Without oil revenue they'd fade from the scene. If Saudi were to develop nukes, I've no doubt that one would make it here eventually.

Most of the other countries in the region while not always moderate, aren't run by loonies with essentially unlimited revenue, absolute internal control and a state sponsored religious mission.

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » May 25, 2005, 4:48 pm

Cart's post might have been irrelevant to the discussion, or as a counterpoint to what was already said, but it made perfect sense from a grammatical standpoint.

Except he should have hypenated "coke-snorting". And he didn't need to capitolize "kindly".

Other than that, I don't see how it was any different from any other discourse on VV

Lohrno · Post by **Lohrno** » May 25, 2005, 4:52 pm

Niffoni wrote:Cart's post might have been irrelevant to the discussion, or as a counterpoint to what was already said, but it made perfect sense from a grammatical standpoint.

Except he should have hypenated "coke-snorting". And he didn't need to capitolize "kindly".

Yeah...it was one of his better posts...

miir · Post by **miir** » May 25, 2005, 4:56 pm

but it made perfect sense from a grammatical standpoint.

It was a grammatical abomination.

Post by **Sylvus** » May 25, 2005, 6:26 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Actually it made perfect sense. It simply spelled out the point of my post, which should have been easy enough to grasp if it weren't viewed through such eyes of hatred toward me.

Are you insane? Read what cartalas wrote again, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

cartalas wrote:That was our point you coke snorting cumstain you accuse us of attacking Iraq because of a few bad Iraqis one of them happens to be the leader, You accuse us of labeling all muslims bad because of 911 and hence your little lefty friends do the same.

So Kindly fuck off

You actually speak that language? Not only is it grammaticaly craptacular, it really isn't even following the current conversation. Let's recap:

Story is posted about Saudi Arabia, nuclear activity, and the U.N.'s concern
Someone makes a joke about the U.S. not attacking because Saudi Arabia is our "ally"
The world's dumbest person and greatest American patriot (hint: rhymes with cartalas) takes offense!
One of his betters (there are so many, lol! but this time i mean kyoukan) references the fact that even though we were attacked by people who were mostly from a country that gives the Bush family a lot of howyousay "reacharounds", we invade another country under a laundry list of false pretenses, and said dumbass is still following the pied piper. (just holler if you're having trouble figuring out my similes and metaphors. the pied piper is GWB) Remember and this is key: one of the reasons we went into Iraq was because it was a hotbed of terrorist training grounds and activities!
Our racist, and mildly retarded, friend takes even more offense (I'm talking about cartalas again) and tries to play the racism card. Probably because he, like our president, has both poor reading comprehension and a short memory when it comes to the reasons why we invaded Iraq. This Post for Dummies footnote: It's not racist to say that people came from a certain country when they did, actually, come from that country. The technical term for it is called "stating a fact".
You [midnyte] latch on to that statement since you hate the accused racist, and at the same time try to play your right-wing victim card, all the while missing the point that that wasn't a label. It is a fact that the Bush family has ties to the Saudi royal family. It is a fact that most of the terrorists from 9/11 came from Saudi Arabia. Are you disputing either of those facts? How is that incongruous with what kyoukan posted?
Some other stuff happened.
Cartalas utters his favorite phrase, spicing it up with the word "racist" this time. He's in no position to be calling people that, but we can dig up his former doozies a bit later!
Reasonable discussion continues
Xyun posts, pointing out that you're a hypocrite (and wrong) for calling anyone in this thread a racist, as well as trying to educate you on some facts that you still, apparently, refuse to believe.
Cartalas posts the above-quoted nonsense.

So, getting to your "perfect sense" that Cart's post made. First, he probably should learn how to quote the parts that he's responding to. I only just now waded my way through it enough to realize he was responding to the first paragraph; I don't speak retard. Second, he should probably go through with his old phonics books or his kids' second grade teacher and see if they can clean it up a bit, the one comma that he decided to use just didn't cut it. Third, I realize you were trying to make a(n incorrect) point, but it's probably better for your cause to have no one at all support your "argument" than to be championed by a worthless lump of smegma like cartalas.

Midnyte wrote:Back on topic...so many of you labelers (ie: the ones who so easily call me a racist, bigot, or what not) do not see that by doing so they are actually perpetrating the act in which they are so vehemently spouting off against.

And finally, please learn the difference between us calling you a a racist or bigot for applying a label to an entire group of people who share a similar trait ("Fuck Muslims", "I got a good morning laugh [about seeing San Franciso going to shit 'cause of all the gays there]) and you calling us "labelers" for describing an individual based on their own actions. It's completely different.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » May 25, 2005, 8:36 pm

Cart varies his ranting a bit at least. I think a couple folks in the "everything the US does is evil" crowd just cut and paste from topic to topic. Nick makes sense on occasion for instance, but you can almost predict his exact response to any given post in advance. I've been tempted to bet on him but no one would take me up on it