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I bought one of these handheld toys the other day that basically plays 20 questions with you. It's pretty freaky how often it gives you the answer. I was tooling around at the company website and saw some info about it.
The artificial intelligence behind the game is a neural-network, similar to a human brain. A brain, or neural-network, is built from neurons connected by synaptic connections. A human brain has about one hundred trillion (100,000,000,000,000) synaptic connections. The 20Q.net online version has about ten million (10,000,000), and the pocket version has about two hundred and fifty thousand (250,000). The game uses the neural-network to choose the next question as well as deciding what to guess.
I don't know how accurate that crap is but the thing is pretty fucking swank. There's an online version of it you can try here: http://20q.secondthought.com/

There's also a faster html version of it here.

Sometimes it goes over 20 questions trying to get the answer but if it doesn't by 30 it gives up.
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Kinda cool.

29 guesses later and it got a chair.
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Damn, it is good. I think it is Canadian.
You were thinking of a caribou.
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how did you know I was thinking about caribou
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Freaky. Stumped it with an aluminum can, but it's been freaky good about some of the other things..
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Well dear, I know that caribou has always been a hot topic up there. :) Damn, this is a fun site.
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kyoukan wrote:I bought one of these handheld toys the other day that basically plays 20 questions with you. It's pretty freaky how often it gives you the answer. I was tooling around at the company website and saw some info about it.
The artificial intelligence behind the game is a neural-network, similar to a human brain. A brain, or neural-network, is built from neurons connected by synaptic connections. A human brain has about one hundred trillion (100,000,000,000,000) synaptic connections. The 20Q.net online version has about ten million (10,000,000), and the pocket version has about two hundred and fifty thousand (250,000). The game uses the neural-network to choose the next question as well as deciding what to guess.
I don't know how accurate that crap is but the thing is pretty fucking swank. There's an online version of it you can try here: http://20q.secondthought.com/

There's also a faster html version of it here.

Sometimes it goes over 20 questions trying to get the answer but if it doesn't by 30 it gives up.
heh my friend has one of those, when i was messing around with it it guessed condom, komoto dragon, teradactyl(sp)....but i got it on gondala!
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It even guesses crazy misspellings??
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Q: what is 2 to the 20th power?
A: 1 048 576

Q: how many words represent nouns in the English language?
A: about 85,000
The Second Edition of the Oxford English Dictionary contains full entries for 171,476 words in current use, and 47,156 obsolete words. To this may be added around 9,500 derivative words included as subentries. Over half of these words are nouns, about a quarter adjectives, and about a seventh verbs; the rest is made up of interjections, conjunctions, prepositions, suffixes, etc. These figures take no account of entries with senses for different parts of speech (such as noun and adjective).

so mathmatically, there is a lot of "fudge factor room" here. The hard part is designing a series of questions to rapidly pair the list down. The machine does the easy part. The programmer is the one who is really smart :p
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Sylvus wrote:It even guesses crazy misspellings??
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It guessed mine in 19 questions...that is freaky!

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Q19. I am guessing that it is an hourglass?
Yes , No , Close

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18. Is it straight? No.
17. Can you use it with your friends? Irrelevant.
16. Would you find it on a farm? No.
15. Does it have writing on it? No.
14. Is it dangerous? No.
13. Is it colorful? No.
12. Does it bring joy to people? No.
11. Does it get wet? No.
10. Can it help you find your way? No.
9. Is it hard? Yes.
8. Does it conduct electric current? No.
7. Do you use it at night? Irrelevant.
6. Can it be played? No.
5. Is it small? Yes.
4. Do you hold it when you use it? No.
3. Can you switch it on and off? No.
2. Does it have a hard outer shell? Maybe.
1. It is classified as Other.
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shit it gets 3 choices? (yes, no, close)

that changes things by 3 orders of magnitude!

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Gave up on it after it spend 27 guesses trying to guess a labrador dog.
It did get close though, guesses on a St. Bernard, then next question "is it bigger than a country". And yes, this was a question in the Pet category.
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It didn't get "Your mom."

It did come close in guessing though...

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A beluga whale
A black bear
A Sea Lion...
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Post by Winnow »

It got mine in one guess.

Animal, Mineral or vegetable?

-vegetable

Q1. I am guessing that it is a Canadian?
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The Terminator wrote:I have a neural net computer, a thinking computer.
q20 is the early version of Skynet and will destroy us all.
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Winnow wrote:It got mine in one guess.

Animal, Mineral or vegetable?

-vegetable

Q1. I am guessing that it is a Canadian?
better punchline would be Terri Schiavo :vv_bolt:
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haha, it guessed BUTT!!! (course it guessed large intestine first, but still, not bad)
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You also have to attribute some of the errors to the subjectivity of the answers that the person gives.
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Post by XunilTlatoani »

the first three i tried, it got right on the money within 20 questions: key, business card, compact disc.

I tested it on a famous person, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and it guessed "soulmate", which was kind of scary...
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I stumped it. First person to guess what I was thinking gets 50VVs.

29. I guess that it is a criminal? Close.
28. Is it heavier than a pound of butter? Yes.
27. I guess that it is a boxer (a person who boxes)? No.
26. Is it used in a sport? Sometimes.
25. I guess that it is a drunk? Close.
24. Is it dangerous? Yes.
23. Would you pay to use it? No.
22. Does it have a tail? No.
21. Can it change size? No.
20. I guess that it is a composer? No.
19. I guess that it is a spine? No.
18. Is it hard? Sometimes.
17. I guess that it is a chef? No.
16. Do you use it in public? Yes.
15. Can it help you find your way? No.
14. Can it climb? Sometimes.
13. Does it live in cities? Yes.
12. Is it colorful? No.
11. Can it run fast? No.
10. Is it small? No.
9. Is it considered valuable? Yes.
8. Is it smaller than a loaf of bread? No.
7. Is it awake at night? Sometimes.
6. Does it move? Yes.
5. Can it save your life? No.
4. Does it lay eggs? No.
3. Is it fuzzy? No.
2. Can you find it in a house? Yes.
1. It is classified as Animal.
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A junkie!
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Dregor Thule wrote:A junkie!
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Close ;)
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it got pirate in 25 questions.

This is neat! :D
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Lohrno wrote:
Dregor Thule wrote:A junkie!
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Close ;)
If you're splitting hairs over like Pothead and Junkie I'll slap you. Or maybe its a crackdealer..
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Dregor Thule wrote: If you're splitting hairs over like Pothead and Junkie I'll slap you. Or maybe its a crackdealer..
Wrong on both counts. :)
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Xzion!?
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Voronwë wrote:Xzion!?
Nope not XZion...
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teenybloke?


Sylvus?

me?
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Voronwë wrote:teenybloke?


Sylvus?

me?
No no no it's valuable and dangerous. :D
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Marcelus Wallace's soul?
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Voronwë wrote:Marcelus Wallace's soul?
Lmao. As far as I know Marcelus Wallace is still alive. =D

Here's another run through the same thing.

29. I guess that it is a potbellied pig (pet)? Close.
28. I guess that it is a banshee? No.
27. Is it involved in movies? Yes.
26. I guess that it is a woman? No.
25. Is it larger than a microwave oven (or bread box)? Yes.
24. Do most people use this daily? No.
23. I guess that it is a poltergeist? No.
22. Does it move? Yes.
21. Can you touch it? No.
20. I guess that it is a millionaire? Close.
19. Would you find it in an office? Yes.
18. Can it swim? Maybe.
17. I guess that it is an author? No.
16. Can it run fast? No.
15. Is it used for entertainment? Sometimes.
14. Does it come from something larger? No.
13. Is it used for communications? Yes.
12. Is it taught in school? Yes.
11. Can it carry people? No.
10. Does it live near water? No.
9. Is it annoying? Yes.
8. Is it white? Yes.
7. Do you hold it when you use it? No.
6. Does it eat fish? Sometimes.
5. Is it small? No.
4. Is it very large? No.
3. Is it brown? No.
2. Is it multicolored? No.
1. It is classified as Animal.







30. I am guessing that it is an orc? Close.
29. I guess that it is a baboon? Close.
28. Can you play games with it? No.
27. Is it used in a sport? No.
26. Is it ferocious? Yes.
25. Is it involved in movies? Yes.
24. Is it straight? Maybe.
23. Does it perform? Yes.
22. Does it stand on two legs? Yes.
21. Does it swim? Maybe.
20. I guess that it is a cowboy? Close.
19. I guess that it is a drunk? Close.
18. Could it be found in a classroom? No.
17. Is it outside? Sometimes.
16. Does it serve a purpose? No.
15. Does it help accomplish tasks? No.
14. Does it grunt? Yes.
13. Would you find it on a farm? Sometimes.
12. Can you get information by using it? No.
11. Can you dress it up? Yes.
10. Is it a vegetarian? No.
9. Does it have a long neck? No.
8. Does it eat leaves? Sometimes.
7. Does it have a large nose? No.
6. Does it have hooves? No.
5. Does it live in grass-lands? Yes.
4. Is it a predator? No.
3. Is it small? No.
2. Is it brown? No.
1. It is classified as Animal.
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Christ Farley?!
A corporate stiff with a coke habit?!?

I dunno :/
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Stumped it!

30. I guess that it is a nostril? No.
29. I guess that it is a cyclops? No.
28. Is it originally from Africa? No.
27. Is it brown? No.
26. Does it have claws? No.
25. Do you know any songs about it? No.
24. I guess that it is a cannibal? No.
23. Does it slobber? Yes.
Does it live near water? Unknown.
22. Is it a predator? Yes.
21. Does it have fangs? No.
20. I guess that it is an enemy? Close.
19. Does it have a hole in it? Yes.
18. Is it spontaneous? No.
17. I guess that it is a fool? Close.
16. Would you find it in an office? Yes.
15. Can it cheer you up? No.
14. Can you find it in a house? Yes.
13. Is it pleasurable? No.
12. Can it help you find your way? Doubtful.
11. Is it larger than a microwave oven (or bread box)? Yes.
10. Does it swim? Maybe.
9. Does it have feet? Yes.
8. Does it grow over time? Yes.
7. Can it fit in an envelope? No.
6. Is it small? Yes.
5. Does it have a tail? No.
4. Does it live in water? No.
3. Can it swim? Maybe.
2. Does it have fur? No.
1. It is classified as Animal.


30. I guess that it is a dwarf? Close.
29. I guess that it is a child? Close.
28. Does it store information? Yes.
27. Does it stink? Probably.
26. I guess that it is an insect? Close.
25. Does it involve contact with other humans? Yes.
24. Does it eat leaves? Yes.
23. Can you lift it? Yes.
22. Does it get wet? Yes.
21. Does it perform? Irrelevant.
20. I guess that it is a fool? Close.
19. Does it contain a lot of water? Yes.
18. Does it help accomplish tasks? No.
17. Can you hold it? Yes.
16. Can it save your life? No.
15. Could it be found in a classroom? Yes.
14. Is it considered valuable? No.
13. Can it help you find your way? Doubtful.
12. Does it grunt? Yes.
Does it have good vision? Unknown.
11. Is it pleasurable? No.
10. Does it jump? Yes.
9. Does it live in cities? Yes.
8. Is it a small mammal? Yes.
7. Does it fit in your wallet? No.
Would you find it on a farm? Unknown.
6. Does it make sound? Yes.
5. Is it small? Yes.
4. Can it affect you (cause an effect to you)? Yes.
3. Does it have four legs? No.
2. Can you buy it? No.
1. It is classified as Animal.



Anyone know what this one is? Gave you 2 run throughs!
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Lohrno wrote:
Voronwë wrote:Marcelus Wallace's soul?
Lmao. As far as I know Marcelus Wallace is still alive. =D
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yeah but he can be alive, and have his soul in other hands. more specifically, his soul could be contained within a briefcase!!
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A crack whore!
Lohrno wrote:I stumped it. First person to guess what I was thinking gets 50VVs.

29. I guess that it is a criminal? Close.
28. Is it heavier than a pound of butter? Yes.
27. I guess that it is a boxer (a person who boxes)? No.
26. Is it used in a sport? Sometimes.
25. I guess that it is a drunk? Close.
24. Is it dangerous? Yes.
23. Would you pay to use it? No.
22. Does it have a tail? No.
21. Can it change size? No.
20. I guess that it is a composer? No.
19. I guess that it is a spine? No.
18. Is it hard? Sometimes.
17. I guess that it is a chef? No.
16. Do you use it in public? Yes.
15. Can it help you find your way? No.
14. Can it climb? Sometimes.
13. Does it live in cities? Yes.
12. Is it colorful? No.
11. Can it run fast? No.
10. Is it small? No.
9. Is it considered valuable? Yes.
8. Is it smaller than a loaf of bread? No.
7. Is it awake at night? Sometimes.
6. Does it move? Yes.
5. Can it save your life? No.
4. Does it lay eggs? No.
3. Is it fuzzy? No.
2. Can you find it in a house? Yes.
1. It is classified as Animal.
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It doesn't do so hot with things that aren't physical, like "a word" or "a haiku".
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Dregor Thule wrote:Christ Farley?!
A corporate stiff with a coke habit?!?

I dunno :/
Now that is quite close...the latter...
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a corpse omg
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Damn smart,

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Is it comforting? You said Maybe, I say No.
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The opinions of the game are its own and are based on the input of people playing the game. It does not matter if our answers disagree, as over time the game will change its answers to reflect common knowledge. If you feel that the game is in error, the only way to fix it is to play again.
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Dregor Thule wrote:Stumped it!

30. I guess that it is a nostril? No.
29. I guess that it is a cyclops? No.
28. Is it originally from Africa? No.
27. Is it brown? No.
26. Does it have claws? No.
25. Do you know any songs about it? No.
24. I guess that it is a cannibal? No.
23. Does it slobber? Yes.
Does it live near water? Unknown.
22. Is it a predator? Yes.
21. Does it have fangs? No.
20. I guess that it is an enemy? Close.
19. Does it have a hole in it? Yes.
18. Is it spontaneous? No.
17. I guess that it is a fool? Close.
16. Would you find it in an office? Yes.
15. Can it cheer you up? No.
14. Can you find it in a house? Yes.
13. Is it pleasurable? No.
12. Can it help you find your way? Doubtful.
11. Is it larger than a microwave oven (or bread box)? Yes.
10. Does it swim? Maybe.
9. Does it have feet? Yes.
8. Does it grow over time? Yes.
7. Can it fit in an envelope? No.
6. Is it small? Yes.
5. Does it have a tail? No.
4. Does it live in water? No.
3. Can it swim? Maybe.
2. Does it have fur? No.
1. It is classified as Animal.


30. I guess that it is a dwarf? Close.
29. I guess that it is a child? Close.
28. Does it store information? Yes.
27. Does it stink? Probably.
26. I guess that it is an insect? Close.
25. Does it involve contact with other humans? Yes.
24. Does it eat leaves? Yes.
23. Can you lift it? Yes.
22. Does it get wet? Yes.
21. Does it perform? Irrelevant.
20. I guess that it is a fool? Close.
19. Does it contain a lot of water? Yes.
18. Does it help accomplish tasks? No.
17. Can you hold it? Yes.
16. Can it save your life? No.
15. Could it be found in a classroom? Yes.
14. Is it considered valuable? No.
13. Can it help you find your way? Doubtful.
12. Does it grunt? Yes.
Does it have good vision? Unknown.
11. Is it pleasurable? No.
10. Does it jump? Yes.
9. Does it live in cities? Yes.
8. Is it a small mammal? Yes.
7. Does it fit in your wallet? No.
Would you find it on a farm? Unknown.
6. Does it make sound? Yes.
5. Is it small? Yes.
4. Can it affect you (cause an effect to you)? Yes.
3. Does it have four legs? No.
2. Can you buy it? No.
1. It is classified as Animal.



Anyone know what this one is? Gave you 2 run throughs!
Me? =D
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Lohrno wrote:Me? =D
You're close. And I don't mean with your guess.

And Drolgin is right :( Yours must be a corpse!
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Dregor Thule wrote:
Lohrno wrote:Me? =D
You're close. And I don't mean with your guess.

And Drolgin is right :( Yours must be a corpse!
If no one gets it by tomorrow I'll give points to you because you are closest. I"ll give a hint. It's office is not the usual shape...

I'm pretty sure it will guess a corpse.
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guessed mine, I got a laugh from Q11 lol


Q18. I am guessing that it is a dustmite?
Yes , No , Close

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17. Does it get wet? No.
16. Do you catch it? No.
15. Is it awake at night? Yes.
14. Does it live in groups (gregarious)? Yes.
13. Does it live in the jungle? No.
12. Is it a predator? Doubtful.
11. Would you touch it with a 10-foot pole? No.
10. Is it dangerous? Sometimes.
9. Is it bad for your health? Yes.
8. Does it live in wet-lands? No.
Is it green or black? Unknown.
7. Does it involve contact with other humans? Maybe.
Does it bite? Unknown.
6. Can you buy it at a store? No.
5. Is it useful? No.
Is it black? Unknown.
4. Can you find it in a house? Yes.
3. Is it heavy? No.
2. Can it scratch? No.
1. It is classified as Animal.
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Ok I'll give it to Dregor, he came close.

It was Dubya.

Now if I could figure out how to donate vvs....:(
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Dregor Thule wrote:
Lohrno wrote:Me? =D
You're close. And I don't mean with your guess.

And Drolgin is right :( Yours must be a corpse!
My momma?

A Penix?

Edit: I gave you 2 Cherry Pies which you can sell to get about 50vv. I couldn't find the donate VVs option...
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we got a couple of those 20 question gadets for xmas. They are freakishly accurate.
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Lohrno, it doesn't work with proper nouns, there's no way it was going to get that.
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Sueven wrote:Lohrno, it doesn't work with proper nouns, there's no way it was going to get that.
Doh. :(

Oh well. This one got it and is kind of entertaining.

Dictator or Sitcom star?
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