I have yet another fan :D

Knibble · Post by **Knibble** » November 18, 2002, 2:40 pm

This would make for an excellent Jerry Springer show... Now all we need is some peeps sleeping with each other.Any volunteers?

And hello there Can.. long time no see.

noel · Post by **noel** » November 18, 2002, 3:15 pm

Psyloche wrote:Aran have you ever eaten bean pie? Its good.

I haven't yet tried it, but I did try sweet potatoe pie once. It was delicious.

Seriously, pie is wonderfully diverse.

Melrin_Specclaster · November 18, 2002, 3:15 pm

'I am almost certain he doesn't dwell on her at all. '

Heh....yeah right. Jice dwells long a killer rotting in jail for life. To say he doesn't talk about Hayley (among others) is like saying we dont breathe air. Jice is the most unforgiving, paranoid bastard on this planet. Argue with me all you want, I know you know him (Grizz), but I know him well, and chose to step away. He dwells.....he was like a female in a long relationship, bringing up shit that happened long ago when the breakup occurred, bitching about things that they never had a problem with till the breakup.

And...to prove his paranoidness....he disbanded his guild because in his delusions he thought I left a 'secret spy' tagged to snoop all their elite deeds.

Jice has a strong personality and some people are drawn to it. It's like the koolaid cult almost. Except some people realize not to drink the koolaid.

/awaits the flames

noel · Post by **noel** » November 18, 2002, 3:17 pm

Melrin_Specclaster wrote:Jice has a strong personality and some people are drawn to it. It's like the koolaid cult almost. Except some people realize not to drink the koolaid.

God, and here I thought I was just playing a fun video game. I didn't realize I could join a cult as well! What fun!

The night time is the right time! The night time is the right time! The night time is the right time!

Atokal · Post by **Atokal** » November 18, 2002, 3:23 pm

I totally agree with Melrin on this one.
Heh, Jice there are people out to get you, Muhahahaha.

Just triggered another session with his shrink.

Cheers
Btw Aran who told you it was just a game. They lied.

Oh and I am your father.

Adelrune Argenti · Post by **Adelrune Argenti** » November 18, 2002, 3:25 pm

/Sigh So much H8. Making sport of RL pics posted here is pretty low actually. Using a forum to say shit that you wouldnt say face to face to someone is extreme cowardice. Attacks about in game shit or broken promises or whatever is totally fine but come on, lets lay off the personal attacks on the basis of looks.

~

ZZtheAssassin · Post by **ZZtheAssassin** » November 18, 2002, 3:32 pm

Just wanted to point out that neo.rr is a north eastern ohio Road Runner IP Tag.

Xendax · Post by **Xendax** » November 18, 2002, 3:37 pm

I'm not here to defend Jice, he can do that on his own, but you are throwing up some partial truths there Mel.

He did disband and reform the guild because he was paranoid of spies, not necessarily of you in particular, but the odds of one of the people that left at the same time you did would do it was pretty good. Especially considering that it has happened before, and you know it. You were an officer in the guild during that time. So, it is not really paranoia is it then?

You also know that Jice is an unrelenting unmerciful asshole with a long memory of people of have been/are dishonest, disloyal, and/or greedy. He admits as much publicly.

Having known Jice IRL for around 18 years, I don't know that I'd say he has a strong personality, at least not IRL. But, I guess you are right, in-game his virtual personality is strong.

quyrean · Post by **quyrean** » November 18, 2002, 3:40 pm

Please dont flatter yourself so much Melrin. Imho the Corps is much better off without you and your little click. Get your facts straight.

FYI:

1. you didnt 'walk away' you were booted.

2. we didnt disband the guild because of you. It was NOT even Jices idea, we had to talk him into it.

3. I was the one who brought up Hayley in the guild chat that day. We were talking about FF and the RL picture thread. I mentioned everyone I met, Hayley being one of the people. I said I was annoyed because the first thing she said to me was "You know Jice is a bitch" and "I cant believe you follow Jice around".

Quy...

edit: I forgot to say - the anon flaming was BS, and Im sorry if that was anyone from the corps.

noel · Post by **noel** » November 18, 2002, 3:40 pm

Atokal wrote:Cheers
Btw Aran who told you it was just a game. They lied.

Oh and I am your father.

If you're really my father, we need to have a long talk about my allowance! ><

It's funny, I realize you were joking etc. but just so I've said it...

It's always been just a game to me. Even when I used to flame the shit out of people, I never had to resort to RL personal attacks or RL threats. It was always far to easy to flame people for gameplay etc. It makes me sad that there are people who are so wrapped up in the game they can't seem to figure out what's right and what's wrong.

Like Adelrune said, "extreme cowardice"

EDIT: Just saw this gem, and had to comment:

I guess you are right, in-game his virtual personality is strong.

/boggle

You've got to be kidding me. Last time I checked, Jice played a DE SK (better than most SKs I've seen). I've spoken to him, never personally had a problem with him, but if some of you think his virtual personality is strong, you seriously need to check yourselves. It's a fucking game. Not once have I ever stood next to Jice, Furor, anyone, and thought OMG that's person X their personality is strong!

If you think someones virtual personality is strong, maybe the reality is that your personality is weak.

Xendax · Post by **Xendax** » November 18, 2002, 3:59 pm

Aranuil, nice partial quote, but no biggie. Personally, I don't think his personality is strong, but I was conceding that point to Melrin since I wasn't willing to argue it.

The thing is, strong (big, small, most any descriptive adjective) is a relative term. What is strong to some is weak to others. As I said, I personally don't feel his personality is all that strong. Those that do are probably looking at it from his leadership within the guild, relations with other guilds, and his strong conivictions, ethics, and honor in dealings with others. Before any of you losers start flaming me on Jice not being honorable, look up the definition. It has nothing to do with being fair or merciful. Which is why you can flame someone a new one and still be honorable.

So basically I'm agreeing with you Aranuil, but I'm pissed at how you presented it. By quoting me, followed by your comments, you are saying I have a weak personality. An attack on me that was completely unwarranted.

Edit: need to proof read better BEFORE I post!

noel · Post by **noel** » November 18, 2002, 4:06 pm

Xendax wrote:Aranuil, nice partial quote, but no biggie.

The only reason I quoted you that way was because I've seen that said about Jice many many times. It's not like you're the first to post that.

So basically I'm agreeing with you Aranuil, but I'm pissed at how you presented it. By quoting me, followed by your comments, you are saying I have a weak personality. An attack on me that was completely unwarranted.

If you think that was an attack... I hate to disappoint you, but it wasn't. If I attack you, there will be no question. I was just stating that I found that concept, which others have echoed well before you not only foreign, but baseless.

Xendax · Post by **Xendax** » November 18, 2002, 4:17 pm

OK, I'll take your word it wasn't an attack.

Did you read the rest of my post that you quoted from?

I've know Jice IRL for 18+ years and been in his guild for over 2. I probably know more about his personality than anyone who has met him in game a few times. Especially more than anyone that has never (I'm guessing) been in a guild with him.

I'm not sure what you find baseless? Is it the conjecture that virtual personalities differ from RL personalities? That there are "strong" and "weak" personalities? Or just that Jice has a strong personality? I guarantee that many people act and "talk" differently on-line than they do face to face IRL. Therefore their virtual personalities are much different than their RL personalities. Therefore "virtual personalities" exist, no matter how weak of a concept it is.

But we're getting side-tracked here ... don't we need to get back to bashing Hayley and Jice?

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 18, 2002, 4:19 pm

Disbanding a guild once in awhile to clear out all of the gimps is pretty common.

I'm not sure what all the excitement is about The Corps. I usually only see one or two of them in the Bazaar sitting face to face. Other than that, maybe a group in Kael killing giants near the arena ramp.

I just thought it was a cyber/social guild that XP'd together. Is it really a cult? I helped The Corps on a Monk epic once and didn't feel the urge to worship anyone. Has something been secretly planted into my subconscious waiting to be triggered on doomsday?

Hayley · Post by **Hayley** » November 18, 2002, 4:19 pm

Well, I don't recall saying those things at all, but I wouldn't put it past me to say that.

I apologize if it rubbed you the wrong way. I know that I tend to have less inhibitions while under the influence of alcohol as I've heard I said many things that night. From what I understand, they pretty damn near were all humorous. (Where are all those cum-filled condoms anyway?!) Alcohol is no excuse for my behavior though, but what's Hammer and Anglenia, and whoever else anon_poster_01_from_the_corps's excuse??

Much love,
Hayley McPantySniffer

Nick · Post by **Nick** » November 18, 2002, 4:25 pm

OMG, Aranuil is a strong personality!

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » November 18, 2002, 4:35 pm

Yet another lame thread about Jice. Yeah yeah, we all know he's an ignorant fuck with serious issues, but do we have to keep bringing it up?

Does it really surprise you that he posted private guild chat about Hayley on his web page?

He obviously gets off on shit like this so why spotlight it?

Mitzey · Post by **Mitzey** » November 18, 2002, 4:38 pm

Hmm mabye people shouldnt drink so much - i know Hammer said she was pretty drunk that night when Quyrean was commenting that you were asking her about Jice being an asshole/bitch and such. I guess i'll just chalk those similar questions that were addressed to me the few times our paths have crossed to the alcohol as well.

I think all of us should get really drunk and have a big group hug (ack ack).

And i dont know Winnow for some weird reason some folks who leave The Corps seem really concerned about Jice and his personality. Personally i dont see why they care. And im sorry we must have forgotten to give you your kool-aid and Corps issued cult robe when you helped us out with the monk epic - i'll see if we can find any left in the closet for you.

Mitzey
Officer of The Corps

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » November 18, 2002, 4:41 pm

I"m not wearing any pants atm.

Hayley · Post by **Hayley** » November 18, 2002, 4:41 pm

Xyun wrote:Yet another lame thread about Jice. Yeah yeah, we all know he's an ignorant fuck with serious issues, but do we have to keep bringing it up?

Does it really surprise you that he posted private guild chat about Hayley on his web page?

He obviously gets off on shit like this so why spotlight it?

This is the flamevault moron! What do you think more than half of these threads are about? We flame the same people, the same guilds, etc. If you don't like it and don't want to read it, then move the fuck on.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 18, 2002, 4:46 pm

Mitzey wrote:
And im sorry we must have forgotten to give you your kool-aid and Corps issued cult robe when you helped us out with the monk epic - i'll see if we can find any left in the closet for you.

Mitzey
Officer of The Corps

I was hoping for a "I survived Jicetown" T-Shirt with a Kool-aid stain on the front. : )

Mitzey · Post by **Mitzey** » November 18, 2002, 4:49 pm

I survived Jicetown - hehe ROFLMAO

And really Sylvos? why didnt you say that down in chardok the other night?

Mitzey
Officer of The Corps

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 18, 2002, 4:51 pm

Hayley wrote:
This is the flamevault moron! What do you think more than half of these threads are about? We flame the same people, the same guilds, etc. If you don't like it and don't want to read it, then move the fuck on.

I dunno...I find threads like the one where you and Fairweather Pure battled over anal sex just as entertaining : ) A healthy mix of flames and useful information is what makes the Vault special.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » November 18, 2002, 4:52 pm

Sylvos wrote:I"m not wearing any pants atm.

omg keep going

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » November 18, 2002, 4:53 pm

I actually did Mitzey, twice...

Mitzey · Post by **Mitzey** » November 18, 2002, 5:07 pm

Bah i must have been drunk and missed it ;(

Mitz

noel · Post by **noel** » November 18, 2002, 5:07 pm

Sylvos wrote:I actually did Mitzey, twice...

Was it good?

Mitey wrote:Bah i must have been drunk and missed it ;(

Guess not for her. ><

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » November 18, 2002, 5:12 pm

Actually, Winnow, we spend these days XPing Teir one planes, doing epics, and generally preparing for a crack at some of the old stuff that is less contested now that a new expansion is out. Pretty much all we have ever done as a guild, really. We are pretty much a law of the jungle type guild and recognize we are a pretty small animal in that jungle, so I don't piss and moan when we get rolled if we lack the manpower and I don't roll others unless they are stalling or pulled some dubious crap on us in the past. We are a mid Velious level guild who occasionally gets lucky on bigger targets and thats the extent of our ambition and ability. We only raid thing that we need loot from or that look like might be interesting to see, and we try to stick to places no one else hangs out to minimize conflict.

The first anon flamer was either Angelenia or his brother. That person is going to get an ass chewing from me, possibly worse. Don't let that stop you guys from flaming his ass off though, he earned a royal lambasting. Gratz page eighting yourself, idiot. I am not sure who the second anon flamer is.

I have agreed privately with certain people not to say negative things about Melrin. Addressing his comments on our reforming, however, I have to say Quyreans account is pretty accurate. Ultimately it was your comments about you still having alts tagged in prior guilds and a certain wizard's landlord telling me they had alts guilded still that persuaded me to go ahead with it. It wasn't just that situation, however, and if you remember we were toying around with the idea before your departure, just because we had no idea who was still tagged. As Winnow pointed out, this is a common thing for guilds to do.

For what I will hope will be the last time I have to comment publicly on the Semen Toothed Tigress, our website is for the entertainment of our members and the couple of other people we play with periodically. That quote batch was posted at around 5am in the morning my time and I didn't give it much thought until it was up on the page and people in the guild commented on it. I decided to leave it up because I have heard through the grapevine you peak at our board frequently (mostly because you like to belittle whatever we happen to be up to at the time) so I decided to leave the obvious flame bait up. I was pretty sure you would bite, but even I was suprised you swallowed the hook on that. All I have to say directly to you is this: Its been over two years. You were kicked out of Corps because one of your friends (an officer at that time) sent me logs of things you were saying and recommended I boot you, even. This was done on the heels of a major internal issue where we all agreed that stabbing guild members in the back was something we were not going to do and banning would result from anyone who did it. It took you three days (maybe less) to break that promise. I was over that the day I kicked you to the curb. I think its fair to say you have been grinding an axe ever since, judging by the fact who routinely attack people who were guilded with you and you claimed were your friends at one time. Someone in a guild as far removed from us as you are should probably find more productive uses for their time.

Those who felt the quote was a cheap shot: In the context that Adelrune pointed out, specifically that it rags on someones RL picture, I conceed that is probably true and it is comming down on that basis. From now on anything we have to say about Hayley will be confined what she says. There is certainly enough of that to make fun of without having to resort to blasting pics of people who are drunk and having a good time.

PS Grizz- If I didn't know her and she didnt speak at all, sure I guess. But to be brutally honest, as a fat bastard who plays EQ 4-8 hours a day, my standards are hardly what could be classified as discriminating.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » November 18, 2002, 5:12 pm

OH MAN!!!

I WANT MY KOOLAIDE!!!!! /ooc Mage seeking to do a run with The Corps!!!!

Actually most of the people in Corps seem okay, paranoid at times, but okay.

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » November 18, 2002, 5:12 pm

You will have to come to our island compound in south america Kylere.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » November 18, 2002, 5:13 pm

Since I have been subject to the Wraith of Jice in the past I feel I have become a expert on the situation. And well he is not all that bad we fought posted yelled called each other names and since then had 2 small chats between each other with out a insult passed.

Sirensa · Post by **Sirensa** » November 18, 2002, 5:15 pm

He's not wearing any pants because he prefers the man-thong and kilt look IRL... DON'T YOU?!?!

I'm not wearing pants either

Adelrune Argenti · Post by **Adelrune Argenti** » November 18, 2002, 5:18 pm

Jice Virago wrote:You will have to come to our island compound in south america Kylere.

I thought you all moved to the Islands in the Indian Ocean. The Cult of Adelrune took over Easter Island and that was too close for comfort for you all.

~

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » November 18, 2002, 5:19 pm

Heck Cartalas, the fact you were on the downside of Jice is a promotion of him to me.

Hayley · Post by **Hayley** » November 18, 2002, 5:19 pm

LOl wtf?!

Here's what happened with you Mitz. You, Dregor, and myself teamed up in Siren's Grotto together. I asked, "hey! how's my number one fan doing?" in jest. I don't recall making an hour-long conversation out of it at all. If that's how you see it, then *shrug* I don't know what to say. Once again, I wasn't the one who posted a quote regarding me up on your website. I don't come and consistently post on your board. I've posted on your boards on ONE occasion (multiple posts) and it was merely giving advice to Sesz to ignore Jice's bullshit claims that everyone that leaves his guild is a backstabber, dishonest loot whore. (Rest in peace Sesz, I do miss you) Your claims that I frequent your boards are baseless and if you meant to infer that I am a frequent poster as well, well I don't know how to convince you otherwise than to just go to the boards yourself and see how many threads you find with Hayley in them.

As far as in San Fran, I'm told I said that to Quy. Quy and I both laughed it off and went along on our merry ways. If laughing about it means that you are annoyed, then that's something new to me. I would have apologized right away had I known that it was an offensive statement.

Also, those that have met me know, my online personality is exactly the same as my real life personality. I'll say "fuck you" to your face the same as I'll say it online.

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » November 18, 2002, 5:20 pm

Sirensa would know, she's always got a hand under my kilt =D

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » November 18, 2002, 5:21 pm

Kylere wrote:Heck Cartalas, the fact you were on the downside of Jice is a promotion of him to me.

Glad to make your day then

Mitzey · Post by **Mitzey** » November 18, 2002, 5:29 pm

Well Kylere i can get you the cult issue robe anytime ya want - just send me a tell. There is of course the matter of a small initiation ceremony but you dont have to go to the island compound for that.

If you want the Koolaid though your going to have to talk to Jice...

Mitzey

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » November 18, 2002, 5:29 pm

UPDATE:
Time 15:29:17
I'm still not wearing pants.

Mitzey · Post by **Mitzey** » November 18, 2002, 5:35 pm

lol wtf - i never said it was an hour long conversation or that you lurk our boards constantly.

oh never mind...

i just think all you people drink to much - or should drink more - or something like that...

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » November 18, 2002, 5:36 pm

Update part deux:
15:35:51

Still pantless.

Sirensa · Post by **Sirensa** » November 18, 2002, 5:36 pm

I think I should drink more

Mitzey · Post by **Mitzey** » November 18, 2002, 5:38 pm

Oh Sylvos that is a very strong personality your giving off there - i feel the urge to take my pants off too

Mitzey
(um thats a JOKE in case it isnt clear)

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » November 18, 2002, 5:41 pm

The funny thing is..i'm not kidding.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » November 18, 2002, 5:41 pm

The neo is as was said North East Ohio, a Roadrunner account. Same as I am on. Wasn't me though, even though this is a new login here

Kelshara

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » November 18, 2002, 5:44 pm

OMG someone PLEASE make Sylvos dress. Damn gay rangers.

Hayley · Post by **Hayley** » November 18, 2002, 5:45 pm

Jice Virago wrote: For what I will hope will be the last time I have to comment publicly on the Semen Toothed Tigress, our website is for the entertainment of our members and the couple of other people we play with periodically. That quote batch was posted at around 5am in the morning my time and I didn't give it much thought until it was up on the page and people in the guild commented on it.

Uhhh, nice try at an excuse there, but was that quote also made at 5 AM? You must have been REALLY tired to think that you just must need to take a screenshot of that, eh? What a pisspoor excuse for posting that bullshit.

Jice Virago wrote: I decided to leave it up because I have heard through the grapevine you peak at our board frequently (mostly because you like to belittle whatever we happen to be up to at the time) so I decided to leave the obvious flame bait up. I was pretty sure you would bite, but even I was suprised you swallowed the hook on that.

You've also "heard through the grapevine" that I left my husband, I cybered Furor and the members of FoH to get into the guild because I obviously lack any kind of skill, and my personal favorite, that I created some mpeg of myself with a dildo. Yes! These are all things that YOU have generated in your little fucked up mind and have posted publicly. Your excuse that it was baiting was once again pisspoor.

Jice Virago wrote: All I have to say directly to you is this: Its been over two years. You were kicked out of Corps because one of your friends (an officer at that time) sent me logs of things you were saying and recommended I boot you, even. This was done on the heels of a major internal issue where we all agreed that stabbing guild members in the back was something we were not going to do and banning would result from anyone who did it. It took you three days (maybe less) to break that promise. I was over that the day I kicked you to the curb.

Riiiiight. *Target self* /guildremove I was fed up with your bullshit Jice. As were the 6 or so others (an officer included) that took off when I removed myself from your guild. I agreed that I wouldn't backstab a guildmate, and then you proceeded to flat out bash one of your own guildies publicly in front of all the guildmates on the messageboard. Talking about some bullshit about how you were going to call child services over someone's own fucking private life. How untactfully TASTELESS it was that you're damn right, I let an officer know how fucking worthless you were to even be posting shit like that after_saying we will not backstab each other.

Jice Virago wrote: I think its fair to say you have been grinding an axe ever since, judging by the fact who routinely attack people who were guilded with you and you claimed were your friends at one time. Someone in a guild as far removed from us as you are should probably find more productive uses for their time.

I routinely attack people who make themselves out to look like asses. Unfortunately, the ones that stand out the most just happen to come from the Corps. *boggle* Namely you, Kguku, and whoever else from your guild comes up and posts "anon." I make great use of my time. I don't do petty shit like take screenshots of stupid comments and then say it's mean for guildmates and few friends of the guildmates to see. That's what your PRIVATE FORUM or passworded forum is for asshole.

Jice Virago wrote: Those who felt the quote was a cheap shot: In the context that Adelrune pointed out, specifically that it rags on someones RL picture, I conceed that is probably true and it is comming down on that basis. From now on anything we have to say about Hayley will be confined what she says. There is certainly enough of that to make fun of without having to resort to blasting pics of people who are drunk and having a good time.

Do you not have enough common sense on your own to gather that that's just something you don't do? First you say it's baiting, and then you admit that it's probably a cheap shot. Which is it motherfucker? Make up your delusioned mind already.

Mitzey · Post by **Mitzey** » November 18, 2002, 5:46 pm

hmm ok thanks sylvos - keep us updated allright -

inquiring minds want to know - we can start a pool on when the pants will go back on...

Mitzey

Ocelott · Post by **Ocelott** » November 18, 2002, 5:51 pm

YALL are slipping!!!

JACKASS--->>>Quyrean!!!

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » November 18, 2002, 5:52 pm

Is there any Chance we can get a Link to that MPEG please

VeeshanVault

I have yet another fan :D

probably should leave this alone....but

Re: probably should leave this alone....but

RE: probably should leave this alone....but

does everyone play EQ DRUNK?

Re: does everyone play EQ DRUNK?