are you fucking kidding me?

[Xzion]

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/6be27ed0-89da- ... 511c8.html

george w bush has listed paul wolfowitz, a man with no economic experiance to be the head of the world bank

for those of you who dont know, he was the main defender of the idea that iraq had weapons of mass destruction, he convinced the senate that iraq could finance its own reconstruction, and that the american cost of war (in lives and money) would be around 10 times less then it was....so in other words, his career has been a complete failure in every aspect

bush said "he was a man of good experiances" and "hes been in charge of a big organization" he also said "hes a moral and compassionate man"

some say hes doing this because even congress wants him the fuck out of the pentagon, and i dont blame them....but in reality i would rather see him on the front lines with a gun in his hand in Iraq

[Aabidano]

On Wednesday Jeffrey Sachs, special adviser to Kofi Annan, UN secretary-general, and one of the world's foremost development experts, said: “It's a very surprising and in many ways inappropriate nomination. International aid organisations warned that the World Bank needed to maintain its mission to minimise poverty, rather than reframe its purpose to spread liberty in an effort to combat Islamic militancy.

He'll do less harm in this position than in the US govt at any rate.

[Hesten]

george w bush has listed paul wolfowitz, a man with no economic experiance to be the head of the world bank

for those of you who dont know, he was the main defender of the idea that iraq had weapons of mass destruction, he convinced the senate that iraq could finance its own reconstruction, and that the american cost of war (in lives and money) would be around 10 times less then it was....so in other words, his career has been a complete failure in every aspect

bush said "he was a man of good experiances" and "hes been in charge of a big organization" he also said "hes a moral and compassionate man"

Well, compare him to Bush. He also been placed in leadership of several companies, with no experience or clue, and managed to drive them to the ground.
Hes just trying to return the favor to one of his buddies.

[Deward]

Bush's whole administration reminds me Grant's back in the late 1800s where Grant had all his cronies given jobs in the government and they slowly bled it dry. Pretty much ruined any legacy that Grant could have had. Not that Bush has much of a legacy so far either.

[Kelshara]

I find it very interesting that Bush is trying to rebuild relations with other countries.. then pulls this stunt.

Quite amusing.

[Marbus]

There was a vote on this on CNN the other day, like 99% of people said he was the wrong choice.

Marb

[Zamtuk]

Wasn't he the one that said the War on Iraq would cost 1.8 billion dollars total?

[Voronwë]

i dont think he said that.

but he did say that Iraqi oil production would quickly pay for the rebuilding effort as well as the war. and i believe when pressed for a timeframe he said months.

[Brotha]

Funny, just reading the title of the thread I guessed it was going to be about Wolfowitz's appointment

[Rekaar.]

Not that Bush has much of a legacy so far either.

had your head in the sand much?

[Xzion]

this is great, not even the conservatives here can support bush's moronic appointment...

[Kelshara]

Not that Bush has much of a legacy so far either.

had your head in the sand much?

He has a legacy.. but it isn't a great one.

[Chidoro]

Not that Bush has much of a legacy so far either.

had your head in the sand much?

Which legacy is that, the one where our deficit is at a high to be paid off by working middle class slobs like yourself or the one where your high school buddies are taking dirt naps saving rich guys making rich friends shit loads of money on contracts *cough* I mean freedom *cough*.

It's almost scary how long Bush's arm must be to be able to stick up your ass in order for you to be his puppet. Or then, maybe you're just truly a muttonhead slob

[Boogahz]

Not that Bush has much of a legacy so far either.

had your head in the sand much?

Which legacy is that, the one where our deficit is at a high to be paid off by working middle class slobs like yourself or the one where your high school buddies are taking dirt naps saving rich guys making rich friends shit loads of money on contracts *cough* I mean freedom *cough*.

It's almost scary how long Bush's arm must be to be able to stick up your ass in order for you to be his puppet. Or then, maybe you're just truly a muttonhead slob

Who's making how much? It's funny how many people talk about others lining their pockets, but have you checked out their expenses while fulfilling those contracts? In order to get someone to drive their trucks...6 digit salaries for just under a year. To get someone to service their equipment....6 digit salaries for just under a year. How are they making as much money as you imply if they are spending more than twice what they would spend on a similar contract in the US?

No, I don't think that war is a good thing, but I am getting sick of people throwing the same little catch phrases and automatically assuming it's all fact. It's funny how people also say the things about how "our" position was hurting the people even before the war..."We" were the UN, not just the US. It's funny as well when people talk about their neighbors "face down in the dirt" when I personally know several people that were there with the military, and they are home now. I also know a couple people there as contractors now.

Sure it's a scary situation. Yes people are killed. Yes, I hope that in the end it was all for a good cause, but the cynical bullshit that gets spewed anytime anyone shows support for them or the people here (Maybe not all are involved for a "noble" reason) is getting old. Grow the fuck up and start learning to look at all of the things involved rather than being a broken fraggin' record. No policy is good for everyone. All policy "should" be made with good intentions. Not everyone will like all policies. Go into politics yourself or write your congressman/woman telling them how much you don't like it. Do you really think that blabbering here is changing anything? All it does is bring out the bandwagon while others point an laugh at the futility of it all.

And no, not all of this is directed solely at Chidoro's post or only posts in this thread.


As to Wolfowitz's nomination...I think it's dumb as fuck too.

[Lohrno]

He has a legacy.. but it isn't a great one.

It's a legacy of great evil...

[Lohrno]

Boogahz, don't tell them that, it takes the fun out of it...

[Xzion]

Not that Bush has much of a legacy so far either.

had your head in the sand much?

history, at least at an international perspective will show bush to be the worst president in american history. He is highly un popular and even hated across much of the world, regardless on your present stance on Iraq...it was a failure. Bush gave the american people false information and over 1500 american soldiers are now dead for a war that in reality would have never been approved...liberate the iraqi people?
why the hell not liberate the cubans?
liberate 35 african countrys that are far more oppressed then iraq?
liberate saudi arabia?
liberate iran?
liberate syria?
...thats a bullshit excuse just like everything else...bush would have had a very positive legacy with 9/11 and the situation in afghanistan, but it is greatly overshadowed and always will be by Iraq, a failed war.