Army missed its recruiting drive target for Feb.

[Aruman]

Recruiters are presenting youth with biased information in hopes that they will enlist in the armed forces.

Pure unadulterated ca-ca...

Take a trip to a recruiting station and talk to a recruiter sometime instead of spouting crap.

Call it an educational experience.

[miir]

I assumed you were playing the 'partisan' politics angle... since that's the only way it is ever used in this forum.

[miir]

Pure unadulterated ca-ca...

Take a trip to a recruiting station and talk to a recruiter sometime instead of spouting crap.

Call it an educational experience.

What are you talking about?
Of course recruiters are biased.
They are salesmen... it's their job to get as many recruits as possible. Anything they say is going to be biased. I doubt you'll ever hear a recruiter say anything negative about the armed forces while running a pitch to a potential recruit.

[Brotha]

I assumed you were playing the 'partisan' politics angle... since that's the only way it is ever used in this forum.

Yeah, looking back I used partisan earlier in the thread in the political sense, I can see how you could get the wrong impression. Honestly I didn't mean it in a political sense the last time I used it, I was just thinking "strongly biased."

[miir]

Fair enough

[Aruman]

What are you talking about?
Of course recruiters are biased.
They are salesmen... it's their job to get as many recruits as possible. Anything they say is going to be biased. I doubt you'll ever hear a recruiter say anything negative about the armed forces while running a pitch to a potential recruit.

I know what I am talking about, unlike you. It is not the recruiter's job to 'get as many recruits as possible'.

Each recruiter is assigned a mission each month. Usually 1-3 people, depending on where the recruiter is located.

The recruiters main job is to ensure they are qualified for the application process, but also to present information to the applicant. The recruiter is NOT able to make promises of any kind to anyone.

As far as your 'I doubt you'll ever hear a recruiter say anything negative about the armed forces while running a pitch to a potential recruit.' comment, that is far from true. Would you honestly trust anything someone said if they had nothing but good to say about something?

Does 'Too good to be true' mean anything to you?

[Zaelath]

What are you talking about?
Of course recruiters are biased.
They are salesmen... it's their job to get as many recruits as possible. Anything they say is going to be biased. I doubt you'll ever hear a recruiter say anything negative about the armed forces while running a pitch to a potential recruit.

I know what I am talking about, unlike you. It is not the recruiter's job to 'get as many recruits as possible'.

Each recruiter is assigned a mission each month. Usually 1-3 people, depending on where the recruiter is located.

The recruiters main job is to ensure they are qualified for the application process, but also to present information to the applicant. The recruiter is NOT able to make promises of any kind to anyone.

As far as your 'I doubt you'll ever hear a recruiter say anything negative about the armed forces while running a pitch to a potential recruit.' comment, that is far from true. Would you honestly trust anything someone said if they had nothing but good to say about something?

Does 'Too good to be true' mean anything to you?

Kid: So I'm really interest in being an MP because I have an interest in law.
Recruiter: I don't see any reason why you couldn't be an MP.
Kid: So where would I likely be deployed?
Recruiter: We have bases all over the world, Europe, Hawaii, the Carribean.
Kid: What about Iraq?
Recruiter: Well, the bad news is that operation will likely be over by the time you finish basic. I assume that you meant you want to go?
Kid: Uhhh, yeah.

Sure, no promises. Fairly rosy though.

[Aruman]

Kid: So I'm really interest in being an MP because I have an interest in law.
Recruiter: I don't see any reason why you couldn't be an MP.
Kid: So where would I likely be deployed?
Recruiter: We have bases all over the world, Europe, Hawaii, the Carribean.
Kid: What about Iraq?
Recruiter: Well, the bad news is that operation will likely be over by the time you finish basic. I assume that you meant you want to go?
Kid: Uhhh, yeah.

Sure, no promises. Fairly rosy though.

See, that's where you are wrong.

If you would bother reading what I say instead of seeing what you want, you wouldn't have missed the part where Recruiters cannot make any kind of promises.

I think you are just trolling Zaelath.

[Kelshara]

I went to class with a couple of reserves and talked quite a bit with them. They would be the first to admit that they did not expect to be sent to war when they signed up. Naive? Maybe, but simple truth is that I dare say most don't expect to ever fight for real. I also got a chance to talk to a recruiter and even though I wasn't being "recruited", I got a little bit of insight into it. Not much, but a little. They DO paint as positive a picture as possible to get people to sign up. Just like a person hiring for a company would do, or a salesman etc.

Personally I believe that if somebody wants to sign up to join they need as much information as possible BEFORE they sign up. Not just the positive, but the negative as well. Not only will that get you only the soldiers that WANTS to be there, but they will also (imho) be more effective and efficient. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if crap like Abu Ghraib stopped happening then. At least happened more rarely.

I also believe that you shouldn't even approach a young kid in high school etc. He is too immature to make the decission then. I consider it pretty sad that you can sign up to kill people but you can't drink a beer. Doesn't make much sense to me.

[Zaelath]

Kid: So I'm really interest in being an MP because I have an interest in law.
Recruiter: I don't see any reason why you couldn't be an MP.
Kid: So where would I likely be deployed?
Recruiter: We have bases all over the world, Europe, Hawaii, the Carribean.
Kid: What about Iraq?
Recruiter: Well, the bad news is that operation will likely be over by the time you finish basic. I assume that you meant you want to go?
Kid: Uhhh, yeah.

Sure, no promises. Fairly rosy though.

See, that's where you are wrong.

If you would bother reading what I say instead of seeing what you want, you wouldn't have missed the part where Recruiters cannot make any kind of promises.

I think you are just trolling Zaelath.

Please point out the promise in that scenario?

[Spang]

recruiters get your foot into the door.

career counselors do the rest.

to sum it up.

[Sueven]

When I graduated high school I actually invited a recruiter over to talk to me about joining the army. He gave me the impression that, based on my scores on various tests, I would be able to go to boot camp and then proceed directly into training for interrogation. I doubt that would have been the case.

[nobody]

speaking from experience it probably would have been the case.

[Aruman]

When I graduated high school I actually invited a recruiter over to talk to me about joining the army. He gave me the impression that, based on my scores on various tests, I would be able to go to boot camp and then proceed directly into training for interrogation. I doubt that would have been the case.

That is one thing about the Army enlistment process. YOu *know* what specialty you will be trained in when you enlist, so if you were qualified for the specialty (MOS), and there was an opening in that specialty, you could take it.

So yes, you would finish boot camp, then proceed to your training in your specialty(MOS) from there.