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Anti-smoking Pact

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I don't recall seeing this discussed anywhere so thought I'd bring it up.
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtm ... ID=7748745
Global Anti-Smoking Pact Goes Into Effect
Sun Feb 27, 2005 06:46 AM ET

By Stephanie Nebehay
GENEVA (Reuters) - A global treaty aimed at dissuading children from smoking and helping adults kick the habit came into force on Sunday with the United Nations saying it could save millions of lives. The World Health Organization (WHO) applauded the strong warnings on cigarette packages and the eventual ban on tobacco advertising and sponsorship laid down in the world's first international public health treaty.

"It's entry into force is a demonstration of governments' commitment to reduce death and illness from tobacco use," said WHO Director-General Lee Jong-wook in a statement to mark the event.

Tobacco, the second leading cause of preventable deaths globally after hypertension, kills 4.9 million people a year, the U.N. agency says.

And the annual death toll from tobacco-related diseases -- lung cancer, heart attacks and cardiovascular diseases -- could soar to 10 million by 2020, with 70 percent of the deaths in developing countries, it adds.

The treaty, known as the Framework Convention on Tobacco Control, gives members three years to slap strong health warnings on tobacco packages and five years to ban advertising, promotion and sponsorship.

It also recommends tax increases on tobacco products, a crackdown on smuggling, and reducing exposure to second-hand smoke.

Approved by the WHO's 192 member states in May 2003, the pact became law on Sunday, 90 days after the 40th state had ratified it.

It will only carry legal weight in those countries which have ratified it, now numbering 57. In total, 167 countries have signed the pact -- but have not necessarily sent it to parliament for ratification.

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WHO officials and activists say the powerful tobacco industry is lobbying intensively to restrict the number of countries applying the treaty, including the United States which has signed up but not yet sent it to the Senate.

"The tobacco industry wants to be free to sell and market their deadly products in such a way that they have more and more profits. This is the only language the tobacco industry knows," Vera Luiza da Costa e Silva, director of the WHO's Tobacco Free Initiative, told journalists.

"In Brazil, my country, the tobacco industry is furiously lobbying the Congress and the Senate in order not to get the treaty ratified. They are using the tobacco farmers to make the case, saying that they will lose their jobs."

Activists accuse the Bush administration, which signed the pact last May, of having worked hard to dilute it.

"U.S. ratification of the treaty would send a strong message to the rest of the world that we will not support these efforts and instead put protection of public health ahead of tobacco industry interests," the U.S.-based Tobacco Free Kids lobby group said.

Douglas Bettcher, treaty coordinator, was upbeat. "We are happy to report that industry is not winning this game."

Some of the largest tobacco growers -- India, Japan, Pakistan, Thailand and Turkey -- as well as cigarette producing countries such as Britain, Germany, the Netherlands and Turkey are among those which ratified have the treaty, he said.
I don't think there needs to be any kind of treaty saying "yo, smokin is bad, don't do it." I find it hard to believe that there is any smoker on the planet (intentional generalization) that doesn't realize that smoking is bad for his/her health. I think the time has passed where a global inititive to highlight the ill effects of smoking is needed.

As a disclaimer, today marks 3 weeks since my last cigarette, so of course I am biased when it comes to the smoking issue. I didn't need anyone telling me how bad it was for me, I knew. But the thing I DIDN'T realize was how easy it was to quit. If there were a way to get that message out on a global scale and actually help people quit, not just try to scare the holy fuck out of them with proclamations of their inevitable deaths, then I would be all for it.
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Did you just quit cold turkey?
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My wife went to a hypnotist to quit smoking, and it worked for her. She has been smoke-free for a little over a year now. She didn't use any medications or anything else, she just wanted to quit, which I think is the first thing anyone needs to do.

(i.e. I can stop playing MMOG's any time I want....assuming I wanted to stop.) :D
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easy way to quit smoking... finish your last cigarette, get a bag of pot, and don't leave the house for a week.
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Yep. It's kind of funny actually. I was on my way home from the gym on Valentine's Day and was going to stop and get cigarettes, I was on the last few of the last pack of a carton. And then I thought, well, I'm doing all this other great stuff for myself why am I still smoking? I can diet, excercise and all that, but if I'm still smoking it's all for naught. So I just didn't stop at the store, I drove on by. But I did come here because I remembered that someone had posted a link to a support website and said "it really works" so I found that post. I think that site (http://www.quitnet.com) and a few other resources I discovered through that site have been more than helpful. Don't get me wrong, the first few days weren't a piece of cake, but they weren't nearly as bad as I was afraid they were going to be.
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Kindo wrote:Yep. It's kind of funny actually. I was on my way home from the gym on Valentine's Day and was going to stop and get cigarettes, I was on the last few of the last pack of a carton. And then I thought, well, I'm doing all this other great stuff for myself why am I still smoking? I can diet, excercise and all that, but if I'm still smoking it's all for naught. So I just didn't stop at the store, I drove on by. But I did come here because I remembered that someone had posted a link to a support website and said "it really works" so I found that post. I think that site (http://www.quitnet.com) and a few other resources I discovered through that site have been more than helpful. Don't get me wrong, the first few days weren't a piece of cake, but they weren't nearly as bad as I was afraid they were going to be.
That puts you in the top percentile of irritating ex-smokers; those that don't have significant withdrawal symptoms and don't realise that some do.

Much love to you Kindo, and gratz on 3 weeks, but it's not "easy to quit" for a lot of us :)
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Boogahz wrote:Did you just quit cold turkey?
Does never starting cold turkey count? :)
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Zaelath wrote:
Kindo wrote:Yep. It's kind of funny actually. I was on my way home from the gym on Valentine's Day and was going to stop and get cigarettes, I was on the last few of the last pack of a carton. And then I thought, well, I'm doing all this other great stuff for myself why am I still smoking? I can diet, excercise and all that, but if I'm still smoking it's all for naught. So I just didn't stop at the store, I drove on by. But I did come here because I remembered that someone had posted a link to a support website and said "it really works" so I found that post. I think that site (http://www.quitnet.com) and a few other resources I discovered through that site have been more than helpful. Don't get me wrong, the first few days weren't a piece of cake, but they weren't nearly as bad as I was afraid they were going to be.
That puts you in the top percentile of irritating ex-smokers; those that don't have significant withdrawal symptoms and don't realise that some do.

Much love to you Kindo, and gratz on 3 weeks, but it's not "easy to quit" for a lot of us :)
I don't mean to sound like I think it's the easiest thing in the world to do and I certainly don't want to be irritating! :shock: (if you know anything about me, you know that the reason I have such a low post count is that I'm terrified of being flamed or looking stupid!) So I am truely sorry if it comes across that way, believe me when I say that was not my intention.

I don't want to turn this into a "how I quit smoking thread", I'm really interested in what other people think about this Anti-Smoking treaty. If someone wants to start a "how I quit smoking thread" or bump an old one, I'd be willing to participate, but I don't want to push my experiences on anyone.
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Much :<3: For Kindo!

Grats on quitting. I will get around to it someday.

As far as the Treaty goes. I think it's a gross waste of funding. If someone wants to do something, no piece of advertisement is going to sway them the other way. This is about as dumb as Nancy Regan (not calling her dumb, just the push) and the "Just Say No" garbage that was spawned in the 80's.

It's nothing but a world wide PR scam. Push relief efforts and feeding the hungry if you are going to be tossing money around.

Too many homeless folks on our own streets for me to give a damn about world wide anti smoking bs.
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I think this is all BS personally. Smoking is bad for you everyone knows that in the industrial world. Sure we could probably get the message out a little more in 3rd world countries but he, it's ON the pack.

I think the whole not smoking thing is just something easy for all these people to focus on when they could be tackling bigger issues like poverty, AID etc...

Me, I still smoke but have cut down drastically as of late and plan to quit sometime this year. Might be this month even, who knows. But that is my choice. There are TONS of things that are worse for people than smoking but they aren't so easily addressed or it's not "cool" Lets these goober focus on those for a bit and let people make their own choices...

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Marbus wrote:it's ON the pack.
Not everyplace. It would seem to be common sense that they're bad for you, but...

Quit 2 weeks ago after 25 years, still sucks.
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Nobody likes a quitter!! j/k :)
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lmao, clever! :D

i quit two and a half months ago and am still having cravings >< PLEASE GOD I WANT TO STAB MY EYE OUT! i hate it! i wont go back to smoking but i wish there was some alternate addiction that could satisfy it! nothing else is legal or allowed in public. :(
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I don't know, people begin smoking at early ages. I was considered a late starter at 21 (I was sidelined with an injury essentially ending my athletic collegiate career, got dumped by someone I thought i really cared for and said, wtf). However, if it was drummed into me just how many processes it fucks up in your body, I probably would have never started. Literally decision was a buddy asking how I was doing on campus, I said shitty, I think I'm going to take up smoking, and that was it.

Most people start because they are at an age where they feel invulnerable. Someone who's 35 doesn't start because they know they can be damaged. They understand what involuntary pain is like. When things don't function, or better yet repair, as well as in the past. You have to put the fear of God into people who are at a feel invulnerable stage in their life because they aren't going to buy it. And if they do, they aren't going to take it seriously. Everyone knows that smoking isn't good for you these days, put the people who start don't give a shit because they don't believe it matters at a young age and/or they can quit with little difficulty at any time. That may be true for some people as I know my wife and my sister can pick up a smoke in a bar and never have the urge to go out and purchase their own pack, but for most of the folks where it becomes habitual, it's an entirely different story.
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Boogahz wrote:Did you just quit cold turkey?
Random fact to throw out.
According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there are about as many former smokers in this country as there are smokers, and almost all gave up the habit on their own, without formal treatment -- usually by quitting cold turkey.
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waste of money, if people are stupid enough in that aspect to become addicted to a pointless substance then i say let them go for it...dont think im being "immoral"...most people i know smoke and i think of them as being equally moronic for having made the decision to do so, of ocurse i want nothing to happen to my friends and or family but its there choice, and i dont think a godamn warning label has stopped anyone...keep in mind i won the DARE award for best anti-drug essay :roll: in elementary school
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I was a social smoker for several years usually when I went to the bars or parties. The last cigarette I had two years ago just tasted awful to me and didn't really have that soothing effect they used to have on me. Now I have no cravings of any sort. I think that cigarettes are more of a mental addiction than a physical one. You really have to want to give it up. For me just looking at the price of a pack of smokes nowadays is incentive enough. Of course I am a tightfisted miser. :)
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I started Wellbutrin yesterday. My quit date is the 24th.
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