Have you purchased any gold?

Fash · Post by **Fash** » February 13, 2005, 11:35 pm

When I bought the game, I had bought 50 gold before I even knew I had to get to a mailbox to pick it up. Something about the game being about entertainment, and enjoying that ability to at least gear up to the best of your ability.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » February 14, 2005, 5:08 am

you paid for fake cash? dios mio

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » February 14, 2005, 10:11 am

Other than to buy a mount, I can not think of anytime when I was lacking for money in the game.
I certainly wouldn't have wasted RL money to buy a mount.

Just adventure and do instances and you will have all the equip you could need.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » February 14, 2005, 11:20 am

Leveling rate is high enough that anything you buy would be worse than something that's going to drop in a few days anyway.

I think part of the game was design was to make ebay\soopersales an unattactive proposition.

Morgrym · Post by **Morgrym** » February 14, 2005, 11:31 am

Nah, there really is no need to.

Unless you are loaded and have the money to blow for no reason at all. There is nothing in the game that can't be upgraded with time. There is no tradeskill item that can't be farmed (except high level patterns and such). I guess I just don't see a need to buy money here. All it does is jack up the AH prices on stuff.

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » February 14, 2005, 12:35 pm

I haven't because I'm broke IRL from buying diapers and daycare. I'm also broke in game because I have given away most of the Blue/Purple items I've gotten that couldn't use, I'm 42 and have like 4 gold. Since my low 20s it's been about the same except I usually have more gold before I purchase my spells and I still haven't bought all my spells due to cash. I'm sure my lot in game would be different if I had horded everything and sold it on the AU but I like helping others to enjoy the game. It just means that at a high level I'll never have any decent items unless I get them from my guild. The only thing that gives some light to that is I've got a great guild. I'm sure as I finish leveling up I'll have everything I need.

However purchasing 100 gold to buy a mount would be very tempting if I had the spare cash I did a couple of years ago... because of that I can't knock anyone else for doing so...

Marb

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » February 14, 2005, 1:30 pm

The only reason I could see for buying gold would be mounts and maybe trade skilling

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » February 14, 2005, 1:57 pm

When I started out I got some money from Fenna on Lightbringer and when I moved to Hyjal I got some money from Loromar. This starting cash helped me greatly. Then again this is only 1-3 gold and not 50. I have noticed that the cost of spells knocks me back down to near starting level (the amount given to me) but I manage to build that back up slowly.

I wouldn't buy any fake money with real money personally. I know there is a moral struggle when trying to decide if it is alright for others. I will say that I don't mind but there is still the nagging thought that buy doing that the people who do all this farming and selling win. I really hate that.

So I won't say I mind when others do it but I will say that before you do it think about the fact that you are letting these people win.

Kguku · Post by **Kguku** » February 14, 2005, 2:01 pm

This coming from a guy who ebayed his character!

Double standards for teh win!

masteen · Post by **masteen** » February 14, 2005, 2:01 pm

Just say "NO" to Chinese farmers.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » February 14, 2005, 2:05 pm

Kguku wrote:This coming from a guy who ebayed his character!

Double standards for teh win!

who exactly are you referring to?..

i personally never sold any of my characters. i have bought a few though.

I'll step out on a ledge in saying that if not for the gold I've purchased, I probably would have gotten bored with this game by now.

Kguku · Post by **Kguku** » February 14, 2005, 2:11 pm

Bubba is who. I should have quoted his text but I was too lazy at the time.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » February 14, 2005, 2:37 pm

Kguku wrote:This coming from a guy who ebayed his character!

Double standards for teh win!

Yeah I guess that may be true but in that case I was the guy who won. I never bought anything. Also, I did it before it was a big business to do so and companies were formed around it. I had my reasons for what I did and I really have no major regrets about it. Besides if I was really into the "Ebaying" thing I know I could have gotten more money than I did for my characters. I sold one really cheap within the guild and the other I dumped off for at least half of what he was worth. This is old news though and opinions were form and set in stone so there is no reason to attempt to convince you otherwise.

So yeah for this I admit it is a case of Pot/Kettle, do as I say not as I do, or whatever cliche you can come up with, I am guilty as charged. Still, I should be allowed to change my mind. Especially on something that happened over 3+ years ago.

Rekaar. · Post by **Rekaar.** » February 14, 2005, 4:54 pm

Ghosted - 26 Undead Rogue - Whisperwind

Wanderers right?

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » February 14, 2005, 4:59 pm

Wanderers right?

That was good for a chuckle

Fash · Post by **Fash** » February 14, 2005, 5:16 pm

guild is pVp... but it's just a tag, i play an hour a day tops and yet still can't go a day unguilded without being invited into one. i've removed myself from 2 already simply because of inane guild chatter.

even if i was 40+ i find it hard to get excited about being in a guild unless it's people I already know.. i would like to join ixtlan.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » February 15, 2005, 8:04 am

Fash, both you and Rellix have expressed interest in joining Ixtlan and I am honestly not opposed to guilding either of you. However, the guild now consists of almost 20% rogues. Consider the long term implications of raiding and loot when 1 out of every 5 people is a rogue. I understand that you are a casual player and I understand that it may take quite a while for you to reach level 60, but sooner or later it will happen, and at some point you will start raiding with us. I honestly don't think the guild can support the extraordinary number of rogues we have now, not to mention the possibility of guilding a couple more level 60 rogues in the near future.

So far, I don't think we've turned anyone from Veeshan or any regulars on VV away, and this includes people that I fervently disagree with on many aspects of life. We decided early on not to intertwine the virtual game world and the real world. But the facts remain, inside the game we are a hardcore end-game guild and to that end I am obligated to hold the interests of the guild at large above the interests of any individual player. I am not saying that you guys won't be guilded, what I am saying is the reason you guys are not already guilded is because you play rogues.

Both of you send me (Slyve) a tell in game and we can discuss this further.

See you in-game.

Hoarmurath · Post by **Hoarmurath** » February 15, 2005, 10:53 am

On the subject of paying real money for fake game money... I always saw it in the context of "time is money". If I don't have much time, it seems almost natural to spend a bit of money to make up for it, assuming I have money to blow.

Off the subject...maybe I should join Whisperwind...the punks that I started playing with have all gone their seperate ways, so I end up playing all by myself all the time. You guys in Ixtlan short on shammies by any chance?

Moonwynd · Post by **Moonwynd** » February 15, 2005, 12:12 pm

I know there is a moral struggle when trying to decide if it is alright for others

LOL..what kind of "moral struggle" are you speaking about? I see nothing "morally" wrong with people paying for virtual goods with real money.

Yes, you may think it is silly...or a waste of good money...but it is certainly not a moral issue.

Drolgin Steingrinder · February 15, 2005, 2:29 pm

The moral issue arises with the creation of an in-game economy that's dominated by people not playing the game, but farming items/gold to sell on playerauctions or through IGE. It broke games like Lineage, it seriously damaged EQ, and participating in it in WoW is potentially damaging to the game.

That is: Does your purchasing of game currency for real-life money have an adverse effect on the gameplay of others? If yes, well, that's a moral issue.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » February 15, 2005, 2:44 pm

Moral or not, when people are making real profit from playing a game, it will eventually impact the game economy as well as create an extra amount of asshattery (re: eudas). WoW is not EQ, but it can easily turn into the economic assfest that EQ became.

I am completely against real cash transactions for accounts, items and gold. Not from a moral perspective, but from a gameplay one. Maybe it won't happen to WoW, but I would rather had Blizzard eliminate that threat, which is really one of the only things that can bring the game down eventually.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » February 15, 2005, 4:33 pm

Exactly what Drolgin and Canelek said. These people aren't "Playing" the game they are "Working" the game.

Wulfran · Post by **Wulfran** » February 16, 2005, 5:30 am

/agree Master Drolgin
/slap Cannobeer upside the head

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » February 16, 2005, 10:00 am

Just like 2/3/4/ect. boxing, purchasing in-game money just fucks MMORPGs up in the long run.

Madren · Post by **Madren** » February 17, 2005, 11:32 am

I wouldnt buy gold, gear/levels / gold have been so easy to gain thru the natural process.

i am not in blitz mode to get to 60 though.

VeeshanVault

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