This disgusted me so much... I'm speechless...

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » January 25, 2005, 6:21 am

http://stream.realimpact.net/?file=real ... sheries.rm

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » January 25, 2005, 6:50 am

welcome to the civilized world of humanity

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » January 25, 2005, 9:51 am

Why is it so difficult to post a summary of a link when you make it?

miir · Post by **miir** » January 25, 2005, 9:52 am

I'm not installing that piece of shit Real Player just to see this. Can you give a summary, perhaps?

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » January 25, 2005, 10:43 am

Sorry, I just linked the rm version.

You can go to the main site and click the WMP version to see here:

The drive fisheries video.

http://www.animalchannel.org/

The video shows Japanese 'fishermen' driving large numbers of dolphins into shallow water, then it's a wholesale slaughter/torture session.

The water they are in is literally red.

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » January 25, 2005, 10:46 am

Akaran_D wrote:Why is it so difficult to post a summary of a link when you make it?

I can't really express this degree of extreme disgust. I posted a quick summary in another post.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » January 25, 2005, 1:28 pm

Are you a vegetarian?

Midnyte_Ragebringer · January 25, 2005, 1:43 pm

/shrug

I try to focus my worries on human beings.

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » January 25, 2005, 4:32 pm

While I too tend to focus on concerns on human beings I think this falls into that realm.

We are the dominant species on the planet and need to survive. Because this some other species are going to suffer. HOWEVER, when human beings just kill for no real reason, maim, disfigure we have to ask the question... WTF is up with them? Just like the little boy that continaully hurts small animals something is just wired correctly in some of these people...

Marb

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » January 25, 2005, 4:39 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:/shrug

I try to focus my worries on human beings.

Everything is on the planet for a reason. When we're the only living thing on the planet, how fucked will we be, I ask you.

Typical conservative though. If it doesn't affect him, he doesn't really give a fuck.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » January 25, 2005, 4:46 pm

Marbus wrote:We are the dominant species on the planet and need to survive. Because this some other species are going to suffer. HOWEVER, when human beings just kill for no real reason, maim, disfigure we have to ask the question... WTF is up with them? Just like the little boy that continaully hurts small animals something is just wired correctly in some of these people...

Bad education... and religion... have made it all too common to think nothing of a life if it is not human.

I've never gone hunting and I swerve for squirrels... k?...

I would like to research our actual dependency on harvesting Fauna..
but even crossing that line lets Flora enter the fray...

Midnyte_Ragebringer · January 25, 2005, 4:57 pm

Animalor wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:/shrug

I try to focus my worries on human beings.
Everything is on the planet for a reason. When we're the only living thing on the planet, how fucked will we be, I ask you.

Typical conservative though. If it doesn't affect him, he doesn't really give a fuck.

Ask the Dolphins, whom it affects, and see what they think about it, mmmkay?

Plus, who are you to tell the Asains how to live their lives? It's not like it's happening in Baltimore Harbor. That is thier culture. If their culture was to rape women, kill those who dared question their government, suppress women and treat them like second class citizens, then I could see a need for concern.

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » January 25, 2005, 4:59 pm

Plus, who are you to tell the Asains how to live their lives? It's not like it's happening in Baltimore Harbor. That is thier culture. If their culture was to rape women, kill those who dared question their government, suppress women and treat them like second class citizens, then I could see a need for concern.

I thought we were talking about Asia, not the deep south.

Burke · Post by **Burke** » January 25, 2005, 5:11 pm

If their culture was to rape women, kill those who dared question their government, suppress women and treat them like second class citizens

Sounds like Congress

Tinkin Tankem · Post by **Tinkin Tankem** » January 25, 2005, 6:10 pm

Yeah our government is so fucked up. The US is by far the worst place to live we have it so fucking bad here. Tienaman (sp) Square? Not to say that we shouldn't work towards a betterment of our country/the world but why must we just constantly bitch about how bad we have it? I have yet to see a person start a post on something great that our country or another has done and let it be at that. Even the Bush aid to Tsunami victims was corrupted was it not?

Seebs · Post by **Seebs** » January 25, 2005, 6:20 pm

Not watching but I think I can summize that Killing for Killings sake is sick and wrong.

Don't need to see a video to acknowledge that.

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » January 25, 2005, 6:43 pm

Tinkin Tankem wrote: Even the Bush aid to Tsunami victims was corrupted was it not?

Those were the haters and the media atempting to stoke the anti-Bush fires for public attention or to boost ratings.

Tinkin Tankem · Post by **Tinkin Tankem** » January 25, 2005, 6:47 pm

That's kinda what I was trying to say, possibly laid the sarcasm on a little thick

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » January 25, 2005, 6:55 pm

silly Jason

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » January 26, 2005, 5:20 am

Where the fuck did you pull Bush from? No one mentioned him, the US government, or anything related to that at all. They dissed Midnyte's attitude; nothing more. Jesus Christ, you guys are as jumpy as the economy. Calm down lads.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » January 26, 2005, 10:45 am

The fishing industry is full of blood and gore, nothing shocking there

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » January 26, 2005, 10:52 am

AFIK Japan is the only country in the world still killing whales and Dolphin. It's for "research purposes". That they like to eat them is a just a happy coincedence.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » January 26, 2005, 12:15 pm

I have been on boats where they run schools of dolphins into orcas just to watch the chaos. Fishermen, like any butcher of animals, tend to be a twisted lot.

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » January 26, 2005, 1:01 pm

Judging by what I'm hearing here, I think I know what this is about.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is being done by a small fishing villiage in China that gets their yearly stockpile of food from doing this. Now, I'm not saying that this is a good thing - it isn't. Chopping them up like this is sick, twisted, and unfortunate. However, if this was your chief food source and the easiest method you had available to you to accomplish it... what would you do?

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » January 26, 2005, 1:04 pm

AFIK Japan is the only country in the world still killing whales and Dolphin. It's for "research purposes".

Norway does as well. Or at least constantly lobbies really hard to be allowed to again.

Cue Kelshara to defend the utopian paradise. . .

Lohrno · Post by **Lohrno** » January 26, 2005, 2:58 pm

Akaran_D wrote:Judging by what I'm hearing here, I think I know what this is about.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is being done by a small fishing villiage in China that gets their yearly stockpile of food from doing this. Now, I'm not saying that this is a good thing - it isn't. Chopping them up like this is sick, twisted, and unfortunate. However, if this was your chief food source and the easiest method you had available to you to accomplish it... what would you do?

If you're right then I see no problem with that. If it offends people so much and this is the case, they can send some alternative food...

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » January 26, 2005, 8:15 pm

vn_Tanc wrote:
AFIK Japan is the only country in the world still killing whales and Dolphin. It's for "research purposes".
Norway does as well. Or at least constantly lobbies really hard to be allowed to again.

Cue Kelshara to defend the utopian paradise. . .

Utopian paradis? Hardly. I can be as rough on the Norwegian government as I can be on the American. Just ask my mother heh.

Anyway, yes we do a very limited hunting for whales. Only one particular type (I believe it is one, might be two) and in a very controlled limited number. The entire whale is actually used so it is hardly "just for fun either" and it has also something to do with fish etc.. hardly an expert on it. And as I said, the limited number is very strictly enforced and the government is constantly researching to make sure the type of whale does not get depleted.

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » January 26, 2005, 8:44 pm

Akaran_D wrote:Judging by what I'm hearing here, I think I know what this is about.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is being done by a small fishing villiage in China that gets their yearly stockpile of food from doing this. Now, I'm not saying that this is a good thing - it isn't. Chopping them up like this is sick, twisted, and unfortunate. However, if this was your chief food source and the easiest method you had available to you to accomplish it... what would you do?

This is in Japan Akaran, not China. It's also not about any small fishing village.

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » January 26, 2005, 8:45 pm

Ok. I haven't yet watched the video.. not a RM fan myself, and less of one watching things get massacered, but I'll try and grab it this evening.

I'll also try to find a link to the article I was refrencing.