ShowEQ programmer "Ratt" goes off on Verant

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » November 5, 2002, 11:41 am

Hey, this could turn into a good thread! Assuming Tanc doesn't take his daily Ritalin or something.

Post by **Xouqoa** » November 5, 2002, 11:45 am

TeurdeCT wrote:There is no fucking way you could have raced and gotten the amount of spawns you did with that method. The only people I believe dont use this is Estrella. They have gimp rangers/druids everywhere. I have watched your skilled guild go from zone to zone to zone raiding constantly with no such "scouting". You aren't the only one watching people.

Actually, there is a way to tell what mobs are up before your raid force enters the zone. In fact, using this leet tactic you can even go from zone to zone, mob after mob, and kill non stop! It is perfectly within the rules of the game, does not involve bending rules in anyway, and is quite simple to do. I don't want to spoil it for you, though.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » November 5, 2002, 11:53 am

Anyone who thinks not one person in their guild uses SEQ is, sadly, naive to the point of being likely to earn a Darwin award one day... especially when you take something bloated to a size like CoED.

Hayley · Post by **Hayley** » November 5, 2002, 11:59 am

Kguku wrote:The whole fucking point of EQ is to discover this shit, not have it handed out to you on a platter.

Why would you encode into a game a function that takes away from the game play? If people want to ruin their experience with it, that's fine, but you're classified as a wanker in my books for having to use some gay ass packet sniffing tool. If you want to know if a boss mob was up - get a tracker.

All this shit is already in the game under one guise or another, use that instead of relying on some 3rd party tool which would take away from the experience.

Personally if people get banned for using it - good riddance.

Posts like these *giggle* so misinformed. Have you ever printed a map off of eqatlas? HOLY SHIT YOU CHEATK ALTJALKJDFLIWERO!!! WRAH!

SEQ is basically a glorified map ffs. That is all! It doesn't show you shit as far as what mobs have on them, PERIOD. At this point, it doesn't even show you what mobs are up! Stop the crying for Christ's sake. Next time before you decide to spout out false propaganda, I dunno, maybe have a fucking clue of what you're talking about? All of this information and more can be read from their website/mb. I print out maps from EQ Atlas.

OMG...I cheat, looking at a map is taking away from my experience.

BTW...a map and my handy dandy tracking is all I need.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » November 5, 2002, 12:31 pm

you dont need SEQ to track rare spawns.

most guilds have tons of gimps scattered all over the place.

but yes, you can't track deep NToV from places where a single ranger can get to. A CoV ranger could track some of it from the hub i guess, but not a lot of it. I think i can track all the major ssra mobs from zone in, maybe not Emperor.

a lot of it is also understanding the spawn timers and what the randomization coefficient is on various spawns.

of course if you are clever with SEQ there are some spawn timers you can track. Ragefire used to be trackable in this fashion if i understand correctly.

I am of the opinion that any raiding guild with more than 40 people in it probably has somebody running SEQ. that doesnt mean it is an integral part of that guild's tactical approach to the game. and the raid leaders may never even get the SEQ info. but you are kidding yourself if you are part of a raiding coalition that has upwards of 100 active members if you dont think somebody in there has run SEQ (when it worked).

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » November 5, 2002, 12:45 pm

Anyone who thinks not one person in their guild uses SEQ is, sadly, naive to the point of being likely to earn a Darwin award one day... especially when you take something bloated to a size like CoED.

Hey, shit for brains. My post says COE. I have no control over CD or it's membership, so my talk of deguilding people would've been overstepping the mark.

However I'm pretty certain nobody in CD uses SEQ. I just don't pretend enough to know about them to publicly stake my membership of my own guild on it.

Rationalising SEQ as a glorified map doesn't change my opinion that using it is cheating either.

Post by **Xouqoa** » November 5, 2002, 12:45 pm

Dregor Thule wrote:... especially when you take something bloated to a size like CoED.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » November 5, 2002, 12:55 pm

Tanc you makeup wearing, jerking off in your mama's panties loser little fuck. CT had 8 million gimps parked for spawn checking, no need for ShowEQ unlike you fuckers that have 8 million gimps to kill something.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » November 5, 2002, 12:56 pm

i have a friend who has/was/is/perhaps will be/may have been a member of CoE/CD/some other guild that starts with C/some guild on veeshan who may/may not have/probably

used Show EQ.

and no i am not going to tell you who....it was/wasn't.

so you can pretty much not worry about your guilds being the only raiding force on planet earth without somebody who has run SEQ at one point in time.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » November 5, 2002, 1:22 pm

And your point would be Xouqua?

Or am I not allowed to dislike a guild?! Shit... lemme check my link, thought I went to veeshanvault.org, not fluffyhappypeons.org.

Post by **Xouqoa** » November 5, 2002, 1:26 pm

Hehe, no. Flame away! I just think you can do better. That wasn't a very subtle attempt!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 5, 2002, 1:46 pm

Voronwë wrote:i have a friend who has/was/is/perhaps will be/may have been a member of CoE/CD/some other guild that starts with C/some guild on veeshan who may/may not have/probably

I have a friend who is/was/could be/most likey is/ a ranger that used to train my guild on Lower Guk Live side ramp. He was/is/ in obsidian/crimson/overlord/guard!

Jugata · Post by **Jugata** » November 5, 2002, 1:52 pm

Yeah there is but those people I see checking spawns from zonein arent officer.

Tanq - You're attempts at making up words in order to flame me is only overshadowed by your retarded nievity in this matter. WAKEY WAKEY FUCKTARD!

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » November 5, 2002, 1:55 pm

Winnow wrote:
Voronwë wrote:i have a friend who has/was/is/perhaps will be/may have been a member of CoE/CD/some other guild that starts with C/some guild on veeshan who may/may not have/probably
I have a friend who is/was/could be/most likey is/ a ranger that used to train my guild on Lower Guk Live side ramp. He was/is/ in obsidian/crimson/overlord/guard!

Dark Sun can go to HELL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! MINO PAT IS OURS MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!!

edit: I'm fairly sure that troll warrior was using SEQ to check to see if Raster was popped!!!!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 5, 2002, 1:57 pm

Dark Sun vs Obsidian Overlords > CT vs FoH

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » November 5, 2002, 2:01 pm

liveside 4 life

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » November 5, 2002, 2:40 pm

If you truly think that no one in CoE is using SEQ, then you really are deluded. There would be no true proof to offer you other than having one of your people come right out and admit it to you though. It is not like someone from the board is going to drive down and take pics of it through your windows.....although I do hear Xanupox has some Air Force buddies...

I think SEQ sucks. I know for a fact that people have used SEQ in CT in the past. Personally, I am happier that I have experimented in zones I have played in to find things out for myself.

Kguku · Post by **Kguku** » November 5, 2002, 2:46 pm

Hayley wrote: Posts like these *giggle* so misinformed. Have you ever printed a map off of eqatlas? HOLY SHIT YOU CHEATK ALTJALKJDFLIWERO!!! WRAH!

SEQ is basically a glorified map ffs. That is all! It doesn't show you shit as far as what mobs have on them, PERIOD. At this point, it doesn't even show you what mobs are up! Stop the crying for Christ's sake. Next time before you decide to spout out false propaganda, I dunno, maybe have a fucking clue of what you're talking about? All of this information and more can be read from their website/mb. I print out maps from EQ Atlas. OMG...I cheat, looking at a map is taking away from my experience.

BTW...a map and my handy dandy tracking is all I need.

Holy shit you're on crack!

"1.3 - What information does ShowEQ actually show?
Anything that the EQ client knows, ShowEQ knows. This includes things like EVERY mob position in the zone, its level/class/race, items it is HOLDING which affect the way it looks, an accurate map of the zone, ground drops/spawns, traps... the list is very large. "

That's a direct quote from the SEQ FAQ. OMFG!

Fuck if you'd even like a screen shot of SEQ here you go! http://www.geocities.com/ficticiousname9/ShowEQ.html

Plus - have you not been reading what people have been posting who HAVE used it? OMFG they used it to see what mobs were up!

Now explain to me how downloading a map is cheating? So someone mapped out a zone for you - hell even Verant mapped it out and sold it, big deal. A big shocker here is that places travelled by other people tend to be mapped in general, it's not considered a cheat. Sorry girl, but you have your head up your ass and are trying to compare apples to oranges.

If you were going to use a map analogy - I go to visit New York, never been there before so I buy a map to see what places I might like to explore. I can't say as I might know everything I will encounter, nor who will be where, that's where the adventure lies.

Now go back to stuffing more of that cybercock in your mouth and kindly STFU.

Thanks, come again.

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » November 5, 2002, 2:52 pm

Kylere your obsession with penises aside, wtf? Your ex-guildleader came here and admitted to using SEQ. I made my point and got accused of being a liar. Now fuck the shut up and sit down there are grownups talking.

As for this shit:

Yeah there is but those people I see checking spawns from zonein arent officer.

Those people aren't using SEQ. I know this for a fact, as far as is possible without actually being omniscient.

Tanq - You're attempts at making up words in order to flame me is only overshadowed by your retarded nievity in this matter. WAKEY WAKEY FUCKTARD!

First don't mistake me for that gnome punk. It's Tanc, short for Tancred.
Secondly, I'm a longstanding CoE officer (apart from my 5 months retirement during SoL) and I know what's going on. I know what our scouts are scouting, when, and how they do it. Yet you feel able to accuse me of naiivety when your ONLY basis for assuming SEQ use is that CoE and CD kill more stuff faster than you.
Obviously you think it's because we are cheating whereas the truth is that it's because you suck shitty cock.

I'm not claiming no member has ever used it. I do know that it's made more than plain to ALL CoE members that cheating is a deguilding offence. We've had people offer to run SEQ for raiding purposes and declined. It's gay around the arse and we don't need to use an 'interactive map'.

My original statement stands. Step up or fuck off.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » November 5, 2002, 2:55 pm

SEQ actually had some serious benefits to all EQ players.

there have been quite a few bugs uncovered by SEQ users that improved all of our gameplay, most noteably some bugs with how experience was calculated.

it is good that there have been some independent watchdogs on VI really because i sure dont believe implicitly what they post in their patch messages.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » November 5, 2002, 2:58 pm

Tanc, and you have guild members that use it also? You point is? Your dumb fucking ass called my entire guild "fucking cheaters" I have never used SEQ, so back to the point, which is, You can suck my fucking cock.

Neost · Post by **Neost** » November 5, 2002, 3:03 pm

And therein lies the truth.

The whole point (and I saw that someone else did point this out) was that generally someone with the resources (time, pc, know-how) to figure out how to run SEQ wasn't really interested in using it to cheat. It started out like a lot of things, a quest for "unseen/untold" information. Game mechanics.

It had these additional uses that were not in the proper "gameplay" mode such as beating someone to rare spawns, etc. etc. It allowed solo players primarily to solo with a lessened risk. But it made nobody omniscient.

Now with the advent of SoE's latest, the rise in EQW and windows based seq-like programs will grow like bunnies fuck. The people that use seq that you don't know about are usually the legitimate "how does it work" crowd. Those that use it to get ahead are normally caught and banned.

Damiarch · Post by **Damiarch** » November 5, 2002, 3:18 pm

vn_Tanc wrote:Now fuck the shut up and sit down there are grownups talking.

LOL

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » November 5, 2002, 3:38 pm

vn_Tanc wrote:CoE has never, ever used SEQ

I believe you posted this earlier sir.

On a side note, CoE would struggle to kill an arena full of level 1 noobs packing daggers* without help from CD. Of course everyone on the server thinks you either cheat or are incompetent or have to be told how to do things.....because until you banded with CD you could not do shit. Further, there are about 5 mobs in the entirety of the game that you managed to drop before the "clueless swarm". Personally, I love the bard DA strategy you all devised to try to kill Shei. I know that it was a hell of a lot more successfull after you switched over to the exact same strategy that the "clueless swarm" used to kill him. Of course you could have gotten that from anywhere...as we were the only ones on the server to even bother killing him in that room at that point in time. Shall I continue or would you like time to recover from that rush of angry blood to your head?

Karae · Post by **Karae** » November 5, 2002, 3:41 pm

Apostate wrote: Actually our monk walked up to the prog invis, took a hit, and noticed it was slashing.

Maybe you've forgotten, clearly the line was blurred for you since you were already posting on the CoED members only board at the time, but you were still in FoH when this happened. Though, I'm sure it was our strat the CD monk used.

Xanupox · Post by **Xanupox** » November 5, 2002, 3:51 pm

LOL Xaem.. I was just thinking that when you said it... WHO IS TANC? ehh

Jugata · Post by **Jugata** » November 5, 2002, 3:53 pm

Tancred.....I'm only gonna say this one more time...you are fucking either the dumbest shit in the world or a cocksucking lying fuck. The fact that you fucks still call us the zerg is a testiment to your delusions. The fact that you can't tie your shoes without CD or FoH strats is testiment to your incompetance. The fact that you thought up me sucking shitty cock is testiment to your being a scat fag. Don't project your homo frustration on me please.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » November 5, 2002, 4:13 pm

I enjoy this thread.

Hayley · Post by **Hayley** » November 5, 2002, 4:14 pm

Kguku wrote:
"1.3 - What information does ShowEQ actually show?
Anything that the EQ client knows, ShowEQ knows. This includes things like EVERY mob position in the zone, its level/class/race, items it is HOLDING which affect the way it looks, an accurate map of the zone, ground drops/spawns, traps... the list is very large. "

That's a direct quote from the SEQ FAQ. OMFG!

So? Good God what a weak fucking point. So SEQ shows you placement of the mob in the zone? OMFG! I was not aware that the uber mobs spawned in random places! No fucking shit Sherlock. Who gives a flying fuck if it shows you mob placement? If you don't already know it after zoning into a zone more than once, then you need to get a clue. That point is moot. WOW! It shows you the level/class/race of said uber mob? Once again, information that you could already find out before you even engage said mob. Does SEQ tell you what AE it will be proccing? Does it tell you the hps? I'll answer this for you since this obviously needs to be spelled out. N-O...dipshit. Once again, I am in awe. The mob is showing what it's holding. Does this prevent you from killing it? I seriously don't go killing mobs strictly because of what weapon they're wielding or not wielding. Spawns have a pretty decent loot table. Can I see if a mob is wearing my tunic? N-O
I guess I have to say it again because it won't sink into that cesspool of yours you call a head. SEQ is a glorified map. Nothing more. Most all of the shit you just outlined could be found out if you simply printed a map off of EQ atlas. If you need stats about the mob, voila! Illia's Bestiary will tell you just about everything you want to know regarding a mob. Jesus, I wasn't aware that I was gonna have to get into the basics of EQ schooling.

Kguku wrote: Fuck if you'd even like a screen shot of SEQ here you go! http://www.geocities.com/ficticiousname9/ShowEQ.html

Hmm...you're showing me things that if I put two and two (God forbid someone use their brain) together a map plus the bestiary for that zone I could generate and know myself.

Kguku wrote:
Now explain to me how downloading a map is cheating? So someone mapped out a zone for you - hell even Verant mapped it out and sold it, big deal. A big shocker here is that places travelled by other people tend to be mapped in general, it's not considered a cheat. Sorry girl, but you have your head up your ass and are trying to compare apples to oranges.

I guess you must have missed it in your cloudy head when I said that the current SEQ doesn't have any mob info. Take the current SEQ user today and ask him/her what he sees? He/She will only see a glorified map. Try better next time to actually have a point when you argue with me, k?

Kguku wrote: Now go back to stuffing more of that cybercock in your mouth and kindly STFU.

Thanks, come again.

Such an original way to wrap up an argument. I gladly like the cock. You must too if you felt the need to mention it! Glad we both have something in common there.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » November 5, 2002, 4:19 pm

lol at I gladly like the cock.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » November 5, 2002, 4:42 pm

I guess my baiting was weak because that wasn't my goal with the message, I was merely stating fact! Will try harder next time ><

zotha · Post by **zotha** » November 5, 2002, 4:58 pm

Just one quick point, we killed Shei the 2nd time we tried him. Since then we have killed him like 2 more times. We have been to this mob VERY few times mainly because we never really expended energy and time seeing if he was up. The first time we tried Shei we may have tried some bard shit, I cant remember. The 2nd time we tried him like 2-3 months later we took a fairly straight forward aproach. There was no real strategy involved it was simply kill shit as it popped after DTs and work away at shei in between. It didnt take a rocket scientist to come up with doing a mob in the plainly obvious way its clearly intended to be killed.

Frankly Shei was never a particually high priority because of the difficulty in testing if he was up, coupled with the fact that we dont need half his loot table.

Kguku · Post by **Kguku** » November 5, 2002, 5:00 pm

Hayley;

If you had half a brain you'd know that SEQ in it's current form - DOES NOT WORK AS INTENDED.

Why? Read the original post of this thread and you'll find out.

The debate was not - how does SEQ work NOW, it was about - What was SEQ USED for / how it worked. Also the repercussions of it moving to windows as that is what's required with the new encryption.

You really are complete moron, it's astounding. Even Dan Quayle could have pieced the current conversation people were having together.

As for having a point - since you can't read simple english here's the point in terms you can understand:

Me draw you picture for you to keep - hooray for you!
You use thingamajig to get information from picture which I no want you to have - bad for me!
Now you say it ok because picture is viewed by others - holy fuck you're clueless!

Does that bring it down to a level of understanding you can comprehend?

As for me liking the cock - yes I like my cock very much. Infact I feel the need to touch it every time I go peepee! Hooray for me!

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » November 5, 2002, 5:05 pm

Don't worry Dregor. Some people get a bit uppity when they are referred to as the 'zergling horde' or whatever they used to brand other guilds as. It's interesting to see!

CoED's numbers surpassed CT's numbers a long time ago. I guess now that the shoe is on the other foot it's not such a bad thing. I'm not even saying having a lot of people IS a bad thing, it's just the hypocrisy of it all that amuses me so.

As for SEQ, I don't use it, never have used it, and don't know anybody who uses it. Am I naive enough to think nobody in any guild doesn't use SEQ? Not at all. Nobody has publically claimed use of it but it would be stupid to. I wouldn't be surprised if Verant doesn't do text searches on their server logs looking for ShowEQ/SEQ references. The quickest way to get banned for using it is to talk about and admit you use it.

CoED may have a lot of good people but unless you've visited every one of their homes I don't see how you can claim nobody in your guild runs it. I think you're going way out on a limb if you believe that much less trying to get the rest of us to believe it.

Frankly Shei was never a particually high priority because of the difficulty in testing if he was up, coupled with the fact that we dont need half his loot table.

What was so hard about it? Have an officer zone in and try guildinviting the poor guy. Either that or fire up SEQ. I hear that's good for that sort of thing.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » November 5, 2002, 5:26 pm

You really are complete moron, it's astounding. Even Dan Quayle could have pieced the current conversation people were having together.

As for having a point - since you can't read simple english here's the point in terms you can understand:

Me draw you picture for you to keep - hooray for you!
You use thingamajig to get information from picture which I no want you to have - bad for me!
Now you say it ok because picture is viewed by others - holy fuck you're clueless!

Hayley isn't the moron in this conversation. Find a mirror.

Hayley, like many other who have seen or used SEQ, is telling you unintelligent uninformed fucktwits that SEQ is not the evil you think it to be. It's not god mode, as has been said at least 10 times in this thread. it is an asset, not a liability. It's info everyone should have.

You've looked at enough XX npc to discern what level/class it is. You can clearly see its holding a 2h_Luclin_Battle_Staff, and thats fuckin it... You don't know what the staff is, You don't know anything special about the NPC... Big fucking deal.

SEQ prevents you from making stupid fucking mistakes. SEQ stops you from getting lost. SEQ has saved more EQ lives than the seatbelt and the flak vest have saved RL ones.

SEQ > You, and I guarantee that at least 30% of CoE, 40% of CD/CT, and 60% of FOH have used or still use SEQ. I used it for the last year of my EQ time, and personally assisted at least 4 others in getting it up and running. A guild without SEQ is a small weak shriveled penis.

Hayley · Post by **Hayley** » November 5, 2002, 5:26 pm

Kguku wrote:Hayley;

If you had half a brain you'd know that SEQ in it's current form - DOES NOT WORK AS INTENDED.

Errr so? So what if it did work as intended? The bonus to now vs how it would work had they not done any more ecryption would be only knowing whether a mob is up or not. So you save a couple minutes by not tracking? Cry me a fucking river. With your level of play, I can hardly see how this would effect you anyway. I can't believe I'm still arguing over this with someone with a mental capacity of an amoeba.

Kguku wrote: Why? Read the original post of this thread and you'll find out.

The debate was not - how does SEQ work NOW, it was about - What was SEQ USED for / how it worked. Also the repercussions of it moving to windows as that is what's required with the new encryption.

Actually, the discussion is not about the actual content that you use in SEQ. The discussion was solely for arguing that thousands of clueless morons like yourself would have access to the program now. You're what I like to call the "technologically challenged" type. Not that there's anything bad about that though. We all need people out there that'll clean up our shit for us.
Nice try on the Dan Quayle comment though, but I think that your own comment could be directed at yourself.

Kguku wrote: As for having a point - since you can't read simple english here's the point in terms you can understand:

Me draw you picture for you to keep - hooray for you!
You use thingamajig to get information from picture which I no want you to have - bad for me!
Now you say it ok because picture is viewed by others - holy fuck you're clueless!

You should try removing the cock from your mouth when you try to make a point. I know you like cock a lot and such, but really I don't understand your cum-infested gibberish. I did however gather you were trying to point out points I had already made in saying all the tools are there for you to already use. Map, mob info, tracking...all capable of providing you the same info you'd get in SEQ.

We now return you back to your regularly scheduled cock-sucking and whining.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 5, 2002, 5:30 pm

Fash wrote:

SEQ > You, and I guarantee that at least 30% of CoE, 40% of CD/CT, and 60% of FOH have used or still use SEQ. I used it for the last year of my EQ time, and personally assisted at least 4 others in getting it up and running.

Who Fash? : ) Names! Names! : ) What are you doing with yourself these days?

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » November 5, 2002, 5:34 pm

This thread contains an abundance of cock.

Hayley · Post by **Hayley** » November 5, 2002, 5:36 pm

My panties are glistening from all this cock talk.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » November 5, 2002, 5:37 pm

My cock is hard from all this glistening panties talk

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » November 5, 2002, 5:39 pm

Fash wrote:SEQ > You, and I guarantee that at least 30% of CoE, 40% of CD/CT, and 60% of FOH have used or still use SEQ. I used it for the last year of my EQ time, and personally assisted at least 4 others in getting it up and running. A guild without SEQ is a small weak shriveled penis.

That sounds like an awfully high estimate Mr Canseco. I am betting there are about 5-10 people in CT that use SEQ currently or in the very recent past. Theree is not even a 30% of CT that even owns a second box to set SEQ up on.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 5, 2002, 5:47 pm

The only time I recall ShowEQ helping me was when a group of us fell down into the maze in PoM. The person with SEQ got us out pretty fast.

It's an evil program. I should still be stuck in that maze.

All this cock talk. Someone posted what appears to be a cock ring on another thread. Perhaps we need to merge all the cock talk into one thread. This might get Leyors thread out of the retard section.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » November 5, 2002, 5:48 pm

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:That sounds like an awfully high estimate Mr Canseco. I am betting there are about 5-10 people in CT that use SEQ currently or in the very recent past. Theree is not even a 30% of CT that even owns a second box to set SEQ up on.

/wave winnow! *pm*

Heya Kilmoll. I would agree that there is no more than 12 people using Seq in CT, but I would weight every officer using it as a 5% boost to the overall membership. so 20% plus the normal 10% keeps ya right up there.

But calm down now.. it's not a bad thing! thats the point. I was never afraid to admit it, I was never afraid of getting banned, I admitted it as frequently as possible, and as I expected, no one gave a fuck.

Be SEQ Proud, VI doesn't want to ban you.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » November 5, 2002, 6:05 pm

When I was taking math courses in school, no numbers were weighted when doing a straight percentage. As a percentage, you are talking along the lines of 10-15%.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 5, 2002, 6:10 pm

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:When I was taking math courses in school, no numbers were weighted when doing a straight percentage. As a percentage, you are talking along the lines of 10-15%.

Kilmoll. You are 110% correct.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » November 5, 2002, 6:44 pm

I think if you are paying $$ a month you should be able to play the way you wish to. Now people will say that it isn't fair to those who don't use 3rd party programs. The program is available to all who chose to use it.

Reminds me of the old Farming the Planes arguments in a way.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » November 5, 2002, 6:51 pm

Actually Fash, when I heard of someone using it, I generally wrote them off as a dumb fuck. But not much I could do about it, since I am not an officer.

Anyone who needs a crutch to play EQ, is a dumb fuck. I can see using it logically to do something you have done the hard way 50 million times, but that is about the only excuse, if you cannot do it straight, and you need SEQ, then I ROR at your dumb ass.

Kguku · Post by **Kguku** » November 5, 2002, 6:57 pm

Hayley wrote: I did however gather you were trying to point out points I had already made in saying all the tools are there for you to already use. Map, mob info, tracking...all capable of providing you the same info you'd get in SEQ.

Heh, you summed up your idiocy right there with that comment. Infact, those were the first points I made when I first posted about SEQ. I have a feeling that just because you're in FoH you suddenly have an understanding of everythin in the world.

New flash - you don't. Infact - If you want to get into cum swilling insults, I'm sure you are still enjoying the jism of those fabled GM's I keep hearing rumours of you sucking off.

Speaking rumours - where's that video of you people were talking about? i'm still waiting to see that.

You really do take the cum crusted cake as Queen of Fecal Matter.

Personally I'd rather chew on a pack of used rubbers after the GM squad at random fan faire was done with you, than continue this conversation.

EDIT - After much crying and weeping over Hayley saying I can't use a computer, even though I know where the power switch is, I had a brilliant insight! (holy fuck I can think too!)

Hayley = so fucking stupid with her druid she couldn't figure out how to use track so she got someone to setup SEQ for her to make it simple!
Now when someone asks if a mob is up she might actually be able to do her job!
WOOT
Hayley j00 r0x0rz!@#!2

can we cyber hump?

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 5, 2002, 7:19 pm

Kylere wrote:Actually Fash, when I heard of someone using it, I generally wrote them off as a dumb fuck. But not much I could do about it, since I am not an officer.

Um kylere...I don't think the officers will be booting anyone using SEQ unless they kick themselves in the ass. SEQ isn't worth worrying about in the first place though.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » November 5, 2002, 7:24 pm

Now, ignoring how poorly constructed that particular flame was Kguku, lemme point out some things for you.

1. There was no video of Hayley. Stop listening to Jice! Ask around, I'm sure certain people will happily tell you who may or may not have made a video.

2. You are confusing Hayley with Livak in regards to GMs passing her around like a Real Doll. Confusing someone with Livak is in and of itself an insult that crosses all lines of decent flaming.

3. Will you be in SF? I will gladly fill several condoms and serve them to you on a silver platter for your chewing enjoyment if it means you stop this conversation.

4. I don't know if you can cyber hump, I hear Brittney's the one to ask on that

Now, I understand, any and all these points are flying way over your head as you snort another ritalin and replay the tape of Jice preaching to his tin foil hat-wearing flock as he passes the Kool-Aid around (super fruity!), but still, common decency dictates I at least TRY to right some wrongs. While I personally don't care for SEQ, nor do I care if the creators panties are in a bunch over SOE fucking with the program, this thread has proven to be HIGHLY entertaining. All we need now is a threat of lawsuits and some naked pictures being circulated around and we have a keeper.

VeeshanVault

ShowEQ programmer "Ratt" goes off on Verant

Re: Actually

LOL