I am sick of the socially destructive and mentally inept ravings of Midnyte, Atokal, Rekaar, Brotha, Insert nazi here.
You fuckheads have ruined this forum.
It's like Searyx, only worse.
The fucking state of this place
Re: The fucking state of this place
While everyone is entitled to their own opinions and ideas, it never ceases to amaze me that not everyone thinks "everyone else" is equally entitled to their own ideas.Teenybloke wrote:I am sick of the socially destructive and mentally inept ravings of Midnyte, Atokal, Rekaar, Brotha, Insert nazi here.
You fuckheads have ruined this forum.
It's like Searyx, only worse.
You may not agree with all of the posters here, but it would be difficult to argue that any handful of people's posts are the only worthwhile ones and everyone else should stop posting. This is a forum for the free exchange of ideas, not for particular people to preach from a palpit.
As friendly advice, I would say that if you do not want to hear opinions from people that do not agree with you, or cannot be easily persuaded to agree with you, then this may not be the forum for you.
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Ok, lets wax lyrical then.
Hi....It has nothing to do with not accepting peoples rights to say what they want. If you assume I think that you clearly have no clue what I think. It is about the attitude and smugness on points that most people in the civilized world laugh/cry at.
This is nothing more than simple fact. As a seemingly reasonable man, surely it is not beyond the realms of your awareness to see that this is the case.
Btw mate, I have watched the vault from its infancy and I can tell you, this Current events forum certainly is not the board for me.
Or in fact if you had noticed, most of the rest of the original (LESS RETARDED!) members.
I was just waiting for someone to pull that bullshit out though, although I assure you. You are mistaken.
You always struck me as a more intelligent poster here. btw
Hi....It has nothing to do with not accepting peoples rights to say what they want. If you assume I think that you clearly have no clue what I think. It is about the attitude and smugness on points that most people in the civilized world laugh/cry at.
This is nothing more than simple fact. As a seemingly reasonable man, surely it is not beyond the realms of your awareness to see that this is the case.
Btw mate, I have watched the vault from its infancy and I can tell you, this Current events forum certainly is not the board for me.
Or in fact if you had noticed, most of the rest of the original (LESS RETARDED!) members.
I was just waiting for someone to pull that bullshit out though, although I assure you. You are mistaken.
You always struck me as a more intelligent poster here. btw
Back it up?
Ill redirect you to their posts. Pick one, play a game, have fun, any one will do.
I am saying this forum, compared to forum of old. Is a joke.
Anyone who cannot see that, frankly, is a spastic.
Sigh, I have waited as long as you really can without just leaving, because to some VV has some special significance, and I for one will stand up for this wee place, like we did before. Down with retards!
Ill redirect you to their posts. Pick one, play a game, have fun, any one will do.
I am saying this forum, compared to forum of old. Is a joke.
Anyone who cannot see that, frankly, is a spastic.
Sigh, I have waited as long as you really can without just leaving, because to some VV has some special significance, and I for one will stand up for this wee place, like we did before. Down with retards!
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I'd have to say the state of the board is a pretty natural evolution from where we started. There just isn't any server drama to occupy our time any more, the number of people here has grown dramatically, and our interests have grown beyond just EQ bitchings.
There are some people I don't like, there are some people I do, there are some people who I think are flaming fucking retards what need to be sterilized to prevent contamination of the gene pool, but I do think that as long as they are posting their sincere (if incredibly stupid) beliefs, this board is a better place for having them.
If you only ever talk to people who think like you, you inherantly limit your perspective.
There are some people I don't like, there are some people I do, there are some people who I think are flaming fucking retards what need to be sterilized to prevent contamination of the gene pool, but I do think that as long as they are posting their sincere (if incredibly stupid) beliefs, this board is a better place for having them.
If you only ever talk to people who think like you, you inherantly limit your perspective.
"There is at least as much need to curb the cruel greed and arrogance of part of the world of capital, to curb the cruel greed and violence of part of the world of labor, as to check a cruel and unhealthy militarism in international relationships." -Theodore Roosevelt
I think it has degenrated here. You know what's odd though? It seems to be degernating everywhere. Have you noticed? Look at some other forums like 4 years ago compared to today. They all seem to be degenerating.
Oh yeah and as to the flaming thing, here's a better example:
Midnyte posted this in the thread about Dimebag's death.
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Oh yeah and as to the flaming thing, here's a better example:
Midnyte posted this in the thread about Dimebag's death.
It's pretty clear that he is so morally bankrupt that the death of a talented guitarist means nothing to him as he said. Not only that but he can not form complete sentences. Yeah. Is not a sentence. Either he is trolling or he is just not the sharpest tool in the shed. Most intelligent people have some sort of compassion, so it isn't likely that he's just trolling! In any case, what he says is definitely not productive.Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Uhh yeah. Sad that someone named "dimebag" is dead. Yeah. Gosh. Feeling awful here. Someone get me some tissues please.
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Masteen although I do not disagree with you the point is more that there is no exchange of ideas whatsoever, it is an argument of shapes on a screen sure, but the specific people I mention there is no exchange of beliefs, more a flat refusal to assume anything other than what they have told.
So although you do indeed have a point; in fact a perfectly reasonable one at that, you miss mine.
So although you do indeed have a point; in fact a perfectly reasonable one at that, you miss mine.
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The ironic things is, Teeeny, that of the apparent negative qualities you are ranting against in this thread are the very same qualities that, of all the "lefties" on this board, you yourself most exhibit. You seem unable to post in a thread without going off on some diatribe filled with Nazi references, calling people moron, etc. You are easily the most rabid when it comes to insisting that your view is the best view, and anyone else that disagrees with you is a Nazi/fuckhead/moron/spastic/retards (all from this very thread, btw), and from a discussion/debate standpoint you bring no more to this table than the ones you're bitching about.
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Too often it seems it is the peaceful and innocent who are slaughtered. In this a lesson may be found that it may not be prudential to be either too peaceful or too innocent. One does not survive with wolves by becoming a sheep.
By all means if you got something to discuss that simply is not retarded then you may be surprised mate.
Rabid is in fact = worried.
Worried that grown adults happen to think in ways that are clearly not thought out intelligently.
Btw, I am generally "rabid" about the war (which is merely the tip of the iceberg of the problems) and towards these particular morons.
Rabid is in fact = worried.
Worried that grown adults happen to think in ways that are clearly not thought out intelligently.
Btw, I am generally "rabid" about the war (which is merely the tip of the iceberg of the problems) and towards these particular morons.
Yes Teeny your "USA sucks_____insert recycled Bush bashing flame here" posts are just so enlightening and provoke such intelligent debate! I know where you're from you're used to it pretty much being an established fact that Bush sucks and everyone hates him, and to see people actually defend him here must come as a complete shock, but try to adjust.
Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots.
The only possibly valid argument I've heard from your side Brotha is that it's a strategic move. Even then I don't think the benefits outweigh the costs when we could have done it another way.Brotha wrote:Yes Teeny your "USA sucks_____insert recycled Bush bashing flame here" posts are just so enlightening and provoke such intelligent debate! I know where you're from you're used to it pretty much being an established fact that Bush sucks and everyone hates him, and to see people actually defend him here must come as a complete shock, but try to adjust.
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Re: The fucking state of this place
Kindly fuck off then teeny. I have never attacked anyone on these boards without provocation. Case in point. I had a serious dislike of Xyun at one point. Decided to argue or debate with out the flames etc and found that he is an intelligent poster with an opinion.Teenybloke wrote:I am sick of the socially destructive and mentally inept ravings of Midnyte, Atokal, Rekaar, Brotha, Insert nazi here.
You fuckheads have ruined this forum.
It's like Searyx, only worse.
Even though I disagree with your politics and other views on life I would not come out here and state that you have ruined the boards. This post smacks of stupidity. What were you hoping to achieve? A utopia filled with leftist opinon and dialogue that will allow you to have people agree with everything you say? BORING.
Now shut the fuck up and get back to calling me names in threads and back up your comments with unsubstantiated bullshit so I can laugh at you some more.
WAHHHH
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Nice spin.
USA as a landmass = fine in my book. Americans who are reasonable = fine again.
To expect someone to "adjust" to horrific numbers of murders in a hysterical reaction by a Government in a war based on lies from the outset.....well......I think I'll take my chances.
You seem to be under the assumption I am awestruck with the concept of dealing with people living in other countries. I assure you, Brotha, my fellow planet inhabitant that in the age of the internet, 24/7 information, telephone lines, planes and boats that if you care to acknowledge, I have little problem with experiencing the joys of political debate and fruitful discussion with people from all over teh world!
For the record, maybe 33% of the people I know advocate the policy imposed by Bush (or more primarily here, Blair).
Their knowledge of the reality of the situation is weak (like on many occasions Brotha: you) but the fact is (some) of them are capable of rational discussion with an open ear for reason or debate.
Something that I find lacking here sometimes and hence, I react with the venom it deserves.
Especially when some posters here are so ultra Pro Bush as to be insane.
USA as a landmass = fine in my book. Americans who are reasonable = fine again.
To expect someone to "adjust" to horrific numbers of murders in a hysterical reaction by a Government in a war based on lies from the outset.....well......I think I'll take my chances.
You seem to be under the assumption I am awestruck with the concept of dealing with people living in other countries. I assure you, Brotha, my fellow planet inhabitant that in the age of the internet, 24/7 information, telephone lines, planes and boats that if you care to acknowledge, I have little problem with experiencing the joys of political debate and fruitful discussion with people from all over teh world!
For the record, maybe 33% of the people I know advocate the policy imposed by Bush (or more primarily here, Blair).
Their knowledge of the reality of the situation is weak (like on many occasions Brotha: you) but the fact is (some) of them are capable of rational discussion with an open ear for reason or debate.
Something that I find lacking here sometimes and hence, I react with the venom it deserves.
Especially when some posters here are so ultra Pro Bush as to be insane.
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Re: The fucking state of this place
You sure have! Unless of course you take history into account, then I guess you are correct. But when it comes to new threads, I've seen you attack others that haven't mentionned your name.Atokal wrote:I have never attacked anyone on these boards without provocation.
There's good info here Teeny. You have to remember that this has always been a flame board and it's main use is a diversion for people at work that want to let off some steam or think about anything other than work.
The board is what you make it. If nobody contributes fresh topics or new ideas and only sits around waiting to bitch about things that are posted, then you won't get much use out of this board. If you ignore the hijack attempts and flames and just respond with an intelligent, thoughtful answer, someone will eventually respond in kind and you filter out the responses inbetween.
Try adding to the discussion. Post about riverdancing or whatever irish people do these days. I, for one, am always interested in what people from foreign countries do and think.
Check out some of the other forums. People that flame like there's no tomorrow in current affairs contribute useful info on other topics.
I disagree that there is nothing worthwhile to learn in CE. You just need a better mental filtering system!
The board is what you make it. If nobody contributes fresh topics or new ideas and only sits around waiting to bitch about things that are posted, then you won't get much use out of this board. If you ignore the hijack attempts and flames and just respond with an intelligent, thoughtful answer, someone will eventually respond in kind and you filter out the responses inbetween.
Try adding to the discussion. Post about riverdancing or whatever irish people do these days. I, for one, am always interested in what people from foreign countries do and think.
Check out some of the other forums. People that flame like there's no tomorrow in current affairs contribute useful info on other topics.
I disagree that there is nothing worthwhile to learn in CE. You just need a better mental filtering system!
At the very most I will concede you have the ability to throw a sentence together Atokal and with your apparantly literacy one would assume you may have a brain in there.
You have a bigger fear of the "left" than I do of the "right".
Which is generally how it is.
Edit: Winnow, I thought it needed addressed to some extent. In the CE forum. But I agree generally with your face on that.
You have a bigger fear of the "left" than I do of the "right".
Which is generally how it is.
Edit: Winnow, I thought it needed addressed to some extent. In the CE forum. But I agree generally with your face on that.
If you come to VV hoping for enlightening, intelligent discussions I'm not too sure what I can say really- maybe hand you a reality check?
Personally, I come here for fun and to learn something new every now and then, and if I manage to piss off a few liberals in the process it's just icing on the cake.
Personally, I come here for fun and to learn something new every now and then, and if I manage to piss off a few liberals in the process it's just icing on the cake.
Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots.
Fraid you somehow missed the boat, but there was in fact a time that that happened.....
Is it too much to ask that people don't just shit out whatever bigotry they feel is important today? My "bigotry" lies against those people.
Edit: Can anyone tell me the name of the wee man in Brotha's sig, I forget, the boxer bloke.
Is it too much to ask that people don't just shit out whatever bigotry they feel is important today? My "bigotry" lies against those people.
Edit: Can anyone tell me the name of the wee man in Brotha's sig, I forget, the boxer bloke.
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I'm going to have to disagree with you Teeny, much along the lines of Winnow. For the most part I tend not to agree with the Brothas and Midnytes, and I think in recent weeks the quality of Rekaar's posts has gone down drastically, but if you never hear the opinions of the other side, your own thought process is stunted because you will not take all factors into account.
Yes all of your list are quite capable and guilty of trolling at times, but they aren't alone in that, and its not like they are in the same category as Cartalas or that Searyx was.
Yes all of your list are quite capable and guilty of trolling at times, but they aren't alone in that, and its not like they are in the same category as Cartalas or that Searyx was.
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I say at least if they shit it out they need to back it up.Teenybloke wrote: Is it too much to ask that people don't just shit out whatever bigotry they feel is important today? My "bigotry" lies against those people.
I mean a whole forum for "You're a neocon dumbass." "You're a liberal smacktard." Is not even entertaining. At the very least explain.
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You need to grow up a little. It doesn't take terribly long to be able to guess what certain frequent posters will think/type. Some have perfectly reasonable reasons for their beliefs regardless of what you think makes sense or is stupid.Teenybloke wrote:USA as a landmass = fine in my book. Americans who are reasonable = fine again.
Are a lot of people in this world easily mislead, you bet. Are there people who aren't, understand the pros and cons, and still disagree with you, count on it.
It's pretty easy to see that most posters here do have their own convictions. They may agree 90% of the time with Bush, but, especially of late, you can see points of that agenda that bothers them. In fact, there's really only one person on these boards that has been a 100% complete Bush lackey to be honest.Especially when some posters here are so ultra Pro Bush as to be insane.
It has nothing to do with trying to censor right wing thinking, there is difference between retardedness and bigotry and right wing thinking. The lines are blurred here and either a redefinition of what people actually believe compared to what they think they believe or a general statement of intention (like this) might change the record.
Winnow did indeed make a grand point.
Edit: Chidoro, you misunderstand. I am well aware that people here may believe what they believe after taking in all the pros and cons. What I am saying is that that is not clearly evident.
Maybe from both sides?
Either way, Yooouuuuuuuuu grow up
Winnow did indeed make a grand point.
Edit: Chidoro, you misunderstand. I am well aware that people here may believe what they believe after taking in all the pros and cons. What I am saying is that that is not clearly evident.
Maybe from both sides?
Either way, Yooouuuuuuuuu grow up
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Teeny I've been a lurker since the IGN days and I first started posting here regarding current events in I'd say late 2002 or early 2003, and I can honestly say things have never "been better." It's always been a mixture of one line flame trolls and intelligent discussion, just like it is now. Personally I get tired of re-arguing the war every week (or day) so I'm more likely to just post a one liner and be done with it.
And about being Pro-Bush 100 percent of the time, name a single time any of you have agreed with Bush on these boards...yeah, I thought so.
The guy in my avatar (I'm not sure what a "bloke" is) is Little Mac from Mike Tyson's punch out.
And about being Pro-Bush 100 percent of the time, name a single time any of you have agreed with Bush on these boards...yeah, I thought so.
The guy in my avatar (I'm not sure what a "bloke" is) is Little Mac from Mike Tyson's punch out.
Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots.
A bloke is a man.
I would not be so blind as to fail to see the importance of the protection of a country under attack, but it has been done soooooo ineptly it is next to impossible to control an exasperation the world is sharing at this particular state of history we are in.
There are massive points being completely ignored by SOME right wing thinkers that are of relevance to today and tomorrow and the "liberal" left that you would lump me in with is merely sickened at the pious nature of men who simply are not investigating the facts of the matter.
I would not be so blind as to fail to see the importance of the protection of a country under attack, but it has been done soooooo ineptly it is next to impossible to control an exasperation the world is sharing at this particular state of history we are in.
There are massive points being completely ignored by SOME right wing thinkers that are of relevance to today and tomorrow and the "liberal" left that you would lump me in with is merely sickened at the pious nature of men who simply are not investigating the facts of the matter.
I am sure the "you are idiots, and I am sick of reading your intellectual vomit" line will win them over!Teenybloke wrote:A bloke is a man.
I would not be so blind as to fail to see the importance of the protection of a country under attack, but it has been done soooooo ineptly it is next to impossible to control an exasperation the world is sharing at this particular state of history we are in.
There are massive points being completely ignored by SOME right wing thinkers that are of relevance to today and tomorrow and the "liberal" left that you would lump me in with is merely sickened at the pious nature of men who simply are not investigating the facts of the matter.
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That was sarcasmTeenybloke wrote:A bloke is a man.
You just can't seem to grasp that there are people out there who are just as intelligent as you, know just as much as you do regarding current events and politics, yet still support Bush. The difference between me and you is I realize that there are intelligent people with valid reasons who disagree with me, while in your mind anyone who disagrees with you is ignorant and/or dumb.Teenybloke wrote:There are massive points being completely ignored by SOME right wing thinkers that are of relevance to today and tomorrow
Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots.
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Bingo!Brotha wrote: You just can't seem to grasp that there are people out there who are just as intelligent as you, know just as much as you do regarding current events and politics, yet still support Bush. The difference between me and you is I realize that there are intelligent people with valid reasons who disagree with me, while in your mind anyone who disagrees with you is ignorant and/or dumb.
Exactly the same thing I have been saying for way too long now.
I agree 100%.Wulfran wrote:I'm going to have to disagree with you Teeny, much along the lines of Winnow. For the most part I tend not to agree with the Brothas and Midnytes, and I think in recent weeks the quality of Rekaar's posts has gone down drastically, but if you never hear the opinions of the other side, your own thought process is stunted because you will not take all factors into account.
Yes all of your list are quite capable and guilty of trolling at times, but they aren't alone in that, and its not like they are in the same category as Cartalas or that Searyx was.
I think we have liberals on this board who are every bit as uninformed and unreasonable as any conservative on this board excepting Cartalas.
Midnyte: You have demonstrated very little respect for those who disagree with your views. Teeny may demonstrate the same flaw, but for you to criticize him for it is hypocritical.
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Actually. I must respectfully disagree. I have on numerous occassions called for those who disagree not to be 100% hate filled against me and try and focus on the subject at hand. I have said many times not to be so narrow minded, short sighted, small pictured and recognize their are many factors, differing opinions, and blah blah blah.Sueven wrote:
Midnyte: You have demonstrated very little respect for those who disagree with your views. Teeny may demonstrate the same flaw, but for you to criticize him for it is hypocritical.
Problem with people like you is you always chose to over look any information and facts which may disagree with your already pre-determined opinion. Whether it be of what you want to believe about me or one of the many topics on this board.
So, I am sorry, but I couldn't possibly disagree more with your statement about me. But, then again I understand that people have diferent perceptions. Somewhere out there amongst all those perceptions is a truth though. Understanding that is key.
Midnyte:
Midnyte wrote:Ohhhh wait. That's right. You are only completely outraged when it is the supposed "evil empire" of America that may have done something that could be viewed as bad. Okay, I get it.
Midnyte wrote:We need major reform. All TV's gone. No play time in yard. Only educational books and magazines. No internet. No personal items of any kind. Jail isn't a place to have fun. It's a place to pay dearly for breaking the law.
Problem is the ACLU and libs won't let that happen.....IT"S NOT FAIR!!!! Fucking bastards.
Midnyte wrote:If you can't tell by the tone of many posters here in this thread, they don't believe he is guilty. In many liberals eyes these days if you don't have it on tape, they just MAY be innocent despite hours of police work and evidence. It's fucking pathetic. People like this are the reason OJ is free after brutally murdering two people.
Midnyte wrote:I just find it laughable the outpouring this loser gets. If our President was shot and killed the same assholes would be screaming with joy. I just think posts like these show the true value of many of the idiots who post here on a daily basis. It also makes me feel like shit because I waste my time even talking to such vile disgusting pigs.
Midnyte wrote:Sometimes someones belief just isn't true. Life begins at conception. Watch any science show on the topic. You will see life being created. Believing in anything different is just a way to justify killing babies so you don't have to put up with them. Not having consequences for your actions has been an ever increases trend in America lately.
Midnyte wrote:Your thinking is so consistantly shallow and short sighted its fucking ridiculous.
All of these are quotes from you within the past week. You now claim:Midnyte wrote:Everybody has rules. Rules are in place for a reason. A reason, most here on these boards couldn't possibly fathom.
You tell other people that but you sure as hell don't practice it yourself. Or would you care to explain to me how the above quotes reveal any amount of respect for those who disagree with you?Midnyte wrote:I have said many times not to be so narrow minded, short sighted, small pictured and recognize their are many factors, differing opinions, and blah blah blah.
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I show conviction indeed. I show passion indeed. I show disgust and distatste for others how show narrow minded, shallow, short sighted thinking indeed. Do I respect their opinions? Not always. But, I also don't start a thread specifically saying this board is fucked because people don't agree with me. Get it Junior?
Wait. So you admit that you often don't respect other people's opinions. It is clear that you often attempt to belittle and insult them for disagreeing with you. Yet you feel like you have the moral high ground to lecture other people about being open minded and respecting others opinions?
And then on top of that, you come at me with this:
And then on top of that, you come at me with this:
I'm not sure if you just didn't read my posts, you were too dumb to understand them, or you just chose to ignore them, but please note that I rather clearly agreed with Wulfran that Teeny is wrong. Got it Grandpa?Midnyte wrote:But, I also don't start a thread specifically saying this board is fucked because people don't agree with me. Get it Junior?