What will the liberals do now?

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » November 4, 2004, 2:18 pm

No, you stupid whore, we dislike Midnyte because he is racist, bigotted, and homophobic. Prejudice is not acceptable. Hating people on a broad generalizing standard is foolish and ignorant. Hating people on an individual basis for being social lepers, on the other hand, is completely acceptable. And to clarify, hating a group that is directly oppressing you and your personal views is not prejudice, its normal human reaction, at least until you take it too far.

Example:
I hate hard core christian fundies, as an athiest, because they supress freedom and free thought to a level that it adversely affect myself my friends, my nation, and the advancement of human knowledge as a whole. I reserve my hatred of them to philisophical debates and efforts to stem their efforts to impose their will on others.

If I started having meetings with other atheists, discussing how all christians needed to have their rights taken away because they were inherrantly flawed/evil/whatever and started pushing to have laws passed that restricted their freedoms, then I would have crossed the line over into prejudice.

If thats not clear, well then its time to complete that GED.

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » November 4, 2004, 2:23 pm

It is abnormal. Therefore a genetic defect.

The first part is true the second is not.
Midnyte crosses line from truth to prejudice when he equates abnormal with "morally wrong" which he does unconsciously and automatically every time this subject is touched.

Lohrno · Post by **Lohrno** » November 4, 2004, 2:26 pm

I would think that if it(homosexuality) were a genetic defect, that would be all the more reason to legalize gay marriage. You see, we guarantee rights to the handicapped, and even have to build handicapped accessible entrances. Not legalizing gay marriage in that case would be a double standard.

-=Lohrno

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » November 4, 2004, 2:27 pm

having a 10" dick is abnormal, but i dont think it is a defect.

and neither does my wife

yuk yuk yuk yuk

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » November 4, 2004, 2:43 pm

I guess by Midnytes argument, Fesuni's poop chute technically needs to be handicap accessable now.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · November 4, 2004, 2:50 pm

Jice Virago wrote:No, you stupid whore, we dislike Midnyte because he is racist, bigotted, and homophobic. Prejudice is not acceptable. Hating people on a broad generalizing standard is foolish and ignorant. Hating people on an individual basis for being social lepers, on the other hand, is completely acceptable. And to clarify, hating a group that is directly oppressing you and your personal views is not prejudice, its normal human reaction, at least until you take it too far.

Example:
I hate hard core christian fundies, as an athiest, because they supress freedom and free thought to a level that it adversely affect myself my friends, my nation, and the advancement of human knowledge as a whole. I reserve my hatred of them to philisophical debates and efforts to stem their efforts to impose their will on others.

If I started having meetings with other atheists, discussing how all christians needed to have their rights taken away because they were inherrantly flawed/evil/whatever and started pushing to have laws passed that restricted their freedoms, then I would have crossed the line over into prejudice.

If thats not clear, well then its time to complete that GED.

The problem with your little rant is, I don't hate anyone but criminals. We have gone over this before. Just because I believe differently than you do, doesn't mean I hate you or whomever we are talking about. How the fuck does me thinking being born gay is obnormal and freakish, turn into me hating them? Only in your little world of hate. I feel sad for you.

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » November 4, 2004, 3:07 pm

Please. Do I really need to quote every time you made a prejudice remark against muslims and arabs on this board?

As for the whole "I think homos are freaks" argument, I seem to remember debunking that load of shit a while ago, too. Remember the whole homosexuality exists in the natural world and animal world thing? There are statistically less red haired people than gays in the world; are they genetic freaks too Midnyte? Are we going to stop red heads from getting married on that basis?

There are plenty examples of you not only saying bigotted, racist, and homophobic things on this board, but of you wearing your prejudices like a badge of honor. You are free to have those opinions, but don't try and pull a Dick Cheney on me, it insults my intelligence.

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » November 4, 2004, 3:08 pm

Curious: What do you mean when you say you "hate criminals?" Are you using the conventional definition of the word?

Atokal · Post by **Atokal** » November 4, 2004, 3:08 pm

Fesuni Chopsui wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Lynks wrote:Let me rephrase then, you are for denying basic rights to others that aren't like you. Did you understand that? Did you read it carefully, maybe you should ask someone next to you to read it back just to make sure.
It's you who refuses to get the fact that a man marrying a man isn't a basic right. It's an unfortunate birth defect and shouldn't be normalized. Why can't you be happy with a civil union? Why is it never enough for you?
It's never enough for him because he has human reason.

As for your comments: You are the one that can't have it both ways here Mid. You cannot say that it is a "birth defect that shoudln't be normalized" and yet be indirectly in support of civil unions.

I find the first part of that personally offensive as well - I have known you to be pretty liberal in the past on this issue and I am very curious as to why your position has changed. Do you honestly think I was born with a birth defect? If so, you disgust me.

As for the whole gay marriage thing. Believe it or not, I partly agree with Mid. I don't think gay marriage should be legal - although let me make it VERY clear that I think civil unions should be granted with EVERY SINGLE EXACT right that marriages get. However I, being a gay man, do not believe it is prudent to legalize gay marriage because I don't think gay people should normalize themselves so much that we seek things that really are not of that much importance to us. By all means - we should fight for our rights every chance we get and seek those out...but seeking out marriage is not only a waste of time but a way of normalizing something that ought NOT to be normalized.

/applaud Fesuni.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » November 4, 2004, 4:00 pm

Voronwë wrote:having a 10" dick is abnormal, but i dont think it is a defect.

and neither does my wife

yuk yuk yuk yuk

I bet she is pretty happy you are not abnormal.

Shaerra · Post by **Shaerra** » November 4, 2004, 4:07 pm

Sylvos wrote:actually Animalor there are several different political beliefs that make the two parties differ greatly.

One wants bigger goverment, one wants smaller goverment.
Other belives in martial stockpiling and large defense budget, the other believes in smaller military and better foreign alliances.
One believes in fiscal conservativness while the other believes in big spending.
One wants more state governing rights while the other wants more federal overseeing of rights.

Things like abortion, gay rights, religious indoctrinization are not bound to a political party - this is a common misconception of our political party system. Those fall under the beliefs of conservative and liberal doctrine. Because you can be a Liberal Republican or a Conservative Democrat.

That is the krux of today's political party system, there are so many variants of the two parties that stereotypes surface to describe them.

For Example: I will use myself to describe that issue.
Name: John
Sex: Male
Birthdate: 12/10/1976
Race: White
Religious Affiliation: Catholic
Sexual Preferance: Heterosexual (ha ha fuck off in advance)
Place of Birth: Gadsten, Alabama
Financial Upbringing: Upper Middle Class/Lower Upper Class.
Gay Marriage: Supports
Death Penalty: Supports
NRA member: Yes
Abortion Stance: Pro-choice (barely)
Foreign Policy Stance: Isolationsist
Creationsism/Evolutionism: Evolutionism.
Prayer in Schools: No
100% for seperation of church and state: Yes

How would you classify this person?
Well he's a white southerner , but hes also catholic, he's not queer hrm..but he's also from a family that has money..he's in his late 20's.
Is he a Republican? or is he a Democrat?
Most people would say Im a Republican just based on the core data you have before you.
But he's for abortion and he wants gays to get married. He's isolationist in foreign policy hrm...but he wants 100% seperation of church and state.
Wait he's also an NRA member....that means he's got guns. But he doens't want Creationsism taught in schools...hrm...
Answer:
Southern Republican Conservative.
But how can you be conservative but support abortion and gay marriage?
Being conservative does not mean I support christian ethics in my political and law making/following decisions. It means I view things from a stand point of pragmatism. I am not a moderate because I do not seek the middle ground and im not liberal because I am pro-choice to an extent.
You see how difficult it is to lable someone using stereotypes? There are so many contradictions if you adhear stereotypes to political labels.
Just food for thought.
Don't get indigestion.

What are the Catholic Articles of Faith?

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » November 4, 2004, 4:21 pm

Ok Just want to throw a Question into the mix.

Are we saying it is not okay for gays to marry due to Religion or due to the law?

If religion is the reason some people or lawmakers will not back Gay wedlock as a union with all the benifits, well explain to me common law marriages between a man and a women thisis not a bond that is done in a church or a court house bet yet in some states it protects both parties.

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » November 4, 2004, 4:24 pm

that would require me to quote the entire catholic cathecism, in short check out the apostle creed that should give you a pretty good idea..

Shaerra · Post by **Shaerra** » November 4, 2004, 4:39 pm

I did, which is why I wonder how you can call yourself a Catholic in the same breath that you state you are for many things the Catholic Church is against.

Is it just hip to be Catholic? Tell me what makes you a Catholic. Is it because you know a few Catholics? Is it that you have been to a Catholic Chruch twice? Maybe even (GASP) taken communion?

What is it, Sylvos?

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » November 4, 2004, 4:44 pm

I consider myself a catholic because I was baptised, raised in a catholic family, married in a catholic church and had my daughter baptised in a catholic church. I don't hang crosses/crucifixes on my house, Don't own a rosary or a bible, have never read the bible, have not memorised the dogma and disagree with some of the positions of the vatican. Being catholic/christian is not synonymous with being an organisation's sheep.

I've also had communion many many many times and have also had my Confirmation.

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » November 4, 2004, 4:48 pm

Shaerra wrote:I did, which is why I wonder how you can call yourself a Catholic in the same breath that you state you are for many things the Catholic Church is against.

Is it just hip to be Catholic? Tell me, what makes you a Catholic. Is it because you know a few Catholics? Is it that you have been to a Catholic Chruch twice? Maybe even (GASP) taken communion?

What is it, Sylvos?

haha surely you jest. I really really hope you would not dare to even attempt to discount me as a catholic.

I went to Catholic School k-8th, I I received all the sacraments except Matrimony, holy orders and annointing of the sick. I remember being confirmed by Bishop Steib when i was 15 and I also remember going to Denver to see the Pope back in the early 90's. I remember being an alter boy til i was 16 and also having the ability to believe in a doctrine and go to mass as often as possible. I am well aware of the cathecism of the Catholic Church as well as what the protocols and beliefs that they uphold, in addition to that if you were smart enough to actually think ahead you wuold have googled Pope John Paul 2 saying during the last major eccumenical council that "I want Catholics to mainly believe in the word of God and his actions, while not everyone can always give 100% of themelves to the doctrine, I am happy with th em given as much as they can" In addition to that, the thing about Faith is, you believe what you want and no one forces ideals upon you if you do not wish to agree with it. I can disagree with what our president does, does that mean im not an American? I can disagree with something the Pope says, does that mean im not Catholic? Yeah, thought so. So now that I have given you the the 15 seconds you deserve for questioning my faith and my resolve. I will know do unto you as I would have you do unto me -- and that is ignore you.
Have a nice day.

Shaerra · Post by **Shaerra** » November 4, 2004, 4:49 pm

So...since every single person that visits VV agree's with a few Catholic rules, we're all Catholic? Because according to you guys, we don't have to believe in ALL of it, or practice ANY of it in order to call ourselves Catholic.

Also, I find it interesting that you, Sylvos, act as if the Pope is God. Why is that?

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » November 4, 2004, 4:53 pm

You have to be baptized Catholic, you have to recieve the sacraments and be educated on Catholic doctrine. The catholic church was and still is very rite oriented.

Post by **Sylvus** » November 4, 2004, 4:55 pm

I think, technically, if you were baptized and confirmed in the catholic church, you are a catholic.

Why are your panties in a bunch, I'm pretty certain you don't believe ALL of it or practice ALL of it. Let ye who is without sin and so forth...

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » November 4, 2004, 4:56 pm

hi5 Sylvus.

Shaerra · Post by **Shaerra** » November 4, 2004, 4:57 pm

Sylvos wrote:You have to be baptized Catholic, you have to recieve the sacraments and be educated on Catholic doctrine. The catholic church was and still is very rite oriented.

And then, once you've gone through the ol' dog and pony show you can do what you want when you want and still be a Catholic? Man, was I wrong about Catholics.

Anyway, like you said, you went to a Catholic school and was an alter boy and stuff, so you must be right. Besides, the Pope said you can do whatever you want if you believe in God.

You can sell crack and believe in God, set puppies on fire and believe in God, have sex with chickens and believe in God. Pope said so! It's on Google!

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » November 4, 2004, 4:58 pm

Shaerra wrote:So...since every single person that visits VV agree's with a few Catholic rules, we're all Catholic? Because according to you guys, we don't have to believe in ALL of it, or practice ANY of it in order to call ourselves Catholic.

And who the fuck do you think you are to tell us how and what to believe in. I'm perfectly happy with the way I've adapted my religion to my life.

The important thing isn't how we believe. Just that we do.

Shaerra · Post by **Shaerra** » November 4, 2004, 5:02 pm

Animalor wrote:
Shaerra wrote:So...since every single person that visits VV agree's with a few Catholic rules, we're all Catholic? Because according to you guys, we don't have to believe in ALL of it, or practice ANY of it in order to call ourselves Catholic.
And who the fuck do you think you are to tell us how and what to believe in. I'm perfectly happy with the way I've adapted my religion to my life.

The important thing isn't how we believe. Just that we do.

I'm not telling you how and what to believe in. Show me where I told you where or what to believe, man...

Adelrune Argenti · Post by **Adelrune Argenti** » November 4, 2004, 5:06 pm

Sylvos wrote: You CAN NOT legislate morality.

Sylvos, I can't agree with you on this. Morality is legislated all the time. Murder is a moral issue. Stealing is a moral issue. Lying under oath is a moral issue. Civilizations have legislated morality from the very beginning.

I think what you are trying to say here is that there is a difference from those moral choices that impact someone else and those moral choices that only impact yourself.

Badabidi · Post by **Badabidi** » November 4, 2004, 5:07 pm

Pubin wrote:Serious question here veeshan vault. In the aftermath of liberals failing to tarnish the reputation and image of GWB to the point of un-electability, what will they do? Moveon.org? Where will they "move on" to now?

I would like to extend an open invitation for every bleeding vagina liberal to move where you will be loved and welcomed. You will be honored like true war deserters. That's right! Go to canada! Home of socialism, denial, and all the free weed your lazy no job having asses can choke down.

Now, scamper along to a better life. One where you won't have to be tyrannized by evil EVIL Republican administrations. Remember, you will always have internet message boards to make yourselves heard...just look how far it took Howard Dean.

HUAAAAHHHHHH!!!!

I still agree with Pubin's original post.

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » November 4, 2004, 5:14 pm

Adelrune Argenti wrote:
Sylvos wrote: You CAN NOT legislate morality.
Sylvos, I can't agree with you on this. Morality is legislated all the time. Murder is a moral issue. Stealing is a moral issue. Lying under oath is a moral issue. Civilizations have legislated morality from the very beginning.

I think what you are trying to say here is that there is a difference from those moral choices that impact someone else and those moral choices that only impact yourself.

Correct Adelrune, that is a much better way of saying what i said.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » November 4, 2004, 5:21 pm

Shaerra wrote:
Animalor wrote:
Shaerra wrote:So...since every single person that visits VV agree's with a few Catholic rules, we're all Catholic? Because according to you guys, we don't have to believe in ALL of it, or practice ANY of it in order to call ourselves Catholic.
And who the fuck do you think you are to tell us how and what to believe in. I'm perfectly happy with the way I've adapted my religion to my life.

The important thing isn't how we believe. Just that we do.
I'm not telling you how and what to believe in. Show me where I told you where or what to believe, man...

You're not, however your posts are full of insinuation that we are not living our faith properly, or that we are outright not proper catholics cause we don't agree 100% with everything that comes out of the vatican.

Frankly I believe I do more for my religion by trying to be a decent human being all the time than going to church once week and being an asshole the rest of the time.

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » November 4, 2004, 5:22 pm

Shaerra wrote:
Sylvos wrote:You have to be baptized Catholic, you have to recieve the sacraments and be educated on Catholic doctrine. The catholic church was and still is very rite oriented.
And then, once you've gone through the ol' dog and pony show you can do what you want when you want and still be a Catholic? Man, was I wrong about Catholics.

Anyway, like you said, you went to a Catholic school and was an alter boy and stuff, so you must be right. Besides, the Pope said you can do whatever you want if you believe in God.

You can sell crack and believe in God, set puppies on fire and believe in God, have sex with chickens and believe in God. Pope said so! It's on Google!

You truely make the art of intelligent discussion a challenging act to engage in. Mainly because you never cease to amaze me on how stupid you can manage to come across, making any rebuttle that we may make sound even smarter. While I find this an attractive attribute for you to have when argueing with you because we all love to sound smarter, I must stop because it then begins to enter the realm of shooting fish in a barrel.

Apparently, because someone has a firm grounding in what they believe and they aren't afraid to discuss their point intelligently without getting into a religious fervor that seems to be too much for you to swallow. I know that you are trying to take anyone point that has been marked as a valid and just response and envenom it with your poison spittle to make your own life seem more substantial. But I'm sorry I will not discuss my faith or my reasoning in the way I beleive a certain way with you, that is between me and my chosen Diety. You really are not even worth the 30 seconds it took me to type this out. I do hope you find a nice puppy some day that makes you smile, perhaps you can name it Patches. Yes, Patches works. Until then, have a great day. I know I will, the sun is bright and I've got a coupon to Gustav's. German food ....hell yes.

noel · Post by **noel** » November 4, 2004, 5:28 pm

Shaerra wrote:So...since every single person that visits VV agree's with a few Catholic rules, we're all Catholic? Because according to you guys, we don't have to believe in ALL of it, or practice ANY of it in order to call ourselves Catholic.

That's not at all what he said. Maybe you should read it again. He quoted the leader of his religion making a statement regarding the tenets of their faith.

After all, we all call you a stupid whore, but that doesn't mean it's true now does it? DOES IT?

noel · Post by **noel** » November 4, 2004, 5:30 pm

Adelrune Argenti wrote:I think what you are trying to say here is that there is a difference from those moral choices that impact someone else and those moral choices that only impact yourself.

Well stated.

Thess · Post by **Thess** » November 4, 2004, 5:31 pm

noel wrote:
Shaerra wrote:So...since every single person that visits VV agree's with a few Catholic rules, we're all Catholic? Because according to you guys, we don't have to believe in ALL of it, or practice ANY of it in order to call ourselves Catholic.
That's not at all what he said. Maybe you should read it again. He quoted the leader of his religion making a statement regarding the tenets of their faith.

After all, we all call you a stupid whore, but that doesn't mean it's true now does it? DOES IT?

I am surprised Shaerra charges

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » November 4, 2004, 5:38 pm

aww, patches!

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » November 4, 2004, 5:43 pm

Shaerra is demonstraing the typical American stereotype (sorry to all the good ones out there). If you're not with us, you're agaisnt us.

So in order to be catholic, you need to agree with the Pope 100%. If that was truely the case, we would still be acting like we were in the 12 century.

Karae · Post by **Karae** » November 4, 2004, 5:53 pm

Thess wrote:
noel wrote:
Shaerra wrote:So...since every single person that visits VV agree's with a few Catholic rules, we're all Catholic? Because according to you guys, we don't have to believe in ALL of it, or practice ANY of it in order to call ourselves Catholic.
That's not at all what he said. Maybe you should read it again. He quoted the leader of his religion making a statement regarding the tenets of their faith.

After all, we all call you a stupid whore, but that doesn't mean it's true now does it? DOES IT?
I am surprised Shaerra charges

i am surprised she can

Shaerra · Post by **Shaerra** » November 4, 2004, 5:54 pm

There's nothing more rewarding than watching the fanboys (or in Thess' case, fanwishIwereaboy) come out to defend Sylvos. See what happens when you ask a few simple questions? Sylvos started off with the usual "I'm teh smart!" post and Anim came in to support him, but when he was shown to be a poser with no convictions, he startled rambling like a moron and was rewarded with more backup from Teh fnord! haha

La-hoo...sa-herz!

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » November 4, 2004, 5:57 pm

I was wrong all this time.

you're so wicked clever

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » November 4, 2004, 5:58 pm

Poser with no convictions, awesome.
I shall now go rape the horses and ride off on the women.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » November 4, 2004, 5:59 pm

Stupidity isn't your problem Shaerra, your issue is the closed-mindedness that is inherant to all hardcore religious folks. Complete refusal accept that there are other realities besudes your own.

The bible does preach acceptance does it not?

Shaerra · Post by **Shaerra** » November 4, 2004, 6:00 pm

Might as well! It's ok as long as you believe in God! Pope said it! Google!

Shaerra · Post by **Shaerra** » November 4, 2004, 6:03 pm

Animalor wrote:Stupidity isn't your problem Shaerra, your issue is the closed-mindedness that is inherant to all hardcore religious folks. Complete refusal accept that there are other realities besudes your own.

The bible does preach acceptance does it not?

Ummm... Ok, there is only one reality. But if you are saying that I refuse to accept that there are other beliefs, I don't. I just dislike posers. You can be a Satanist if you want, but if you go around calling yourself a Mormon while preaching Satanism, I'm gonna call bullshit. And you guys can try to twist it any way you want, but if you do not believe in the fundamentals of an organization, do not call yourself a member of that organization, because if you do, you are a poser.

Thess · Post by **Thess** » November 4, 2004, 6:05 pm

So what religion are you, Shaerra? I happen to follow my religion of athiesm, without changing the religion to suit me.

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » November 4, 2004, 6:10 pm

Thess, you really ought to read Shaerra's posts more carefully. I mean, didn't she already answer your question when she said:

Shaerra wrote:You have added this person to your Ignore List. Click HERE to view this post.

Or if not then, maybe when she said:

Shaerra wrote:You have added this person to your Ignore List. Click HERE to view this post.

I mean Jesus, if that doesn't clarify it, what could?

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » November 4, 2004, 6:11 pm

Shaerra wrote:
Animalor wrote:Stupidity isn't your problem Shaerra, your issue is the closed-mindedness that is inherant to all hardcore religious folks. Complete refusal accept that there are other realities besudes your own.

The bible does preach acceptance does it not?
Ummm... Ok, there is only one reality. But if you are saying that I refuse to accept that there are other beliefs, I don't. I just dislike posers. You can be a Satanist if you want, but if you go around calling yourself a Mormon while preaching Satanism, I'm gonna call bullshit. And you guys can try to twist it any way you want, but if you do not believe in the fundamentals of an organization, do not call yourself a member of that organization, because if you do, you are a poser.

You are seriously one stupid twat, not once did i ever say i didn't believe in the fundamentals of the Cathoic Faith. How dare you even question that. You have already managed to take up almost 5 minutes of my time today in this protracted and over long offensive discussion involving how you dare question my belief system. Now you have proven you not only have no idea what you are talking about but you are also highly offensive to others especially on a very senstive topic like religion. I'm just going to stop responding cause now all i'm doing is allowing myself to be baited by a yapping dog.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » November 4, 2004, 6:13 pm

Shaerra wrote:
Animalor wrote:Stupidity isn't your problem Shaerra, your issue is the closed-mindedness that is inherant to all hardcore religious folks. Complete refusal accept that there are other realities besudes your own.

The bible does preach acceptance does it not?
Ummm... Ok, there is only one reality. But if you are saying that I refuse to accept that there are other beliefs, I don't. I just dislike posers. You can be a Satanist if you want, but if you go around calling yourself a Mormon while preaching Satanism, I'm gonna call bullshit. And you guys can try to twist it any way you want, but if you do not believe in the fundamentals of an organization, do not call yourself a member of that organization, because if you do, you are a poser.

People with your mindset absolutly disgust me.
I think Kerry said it best, you can be against abortion morally and still not want to opress others with your belifs.

If you are against abortion, dont get an abortion, hell even protest abortions and try to convince others of an alternate choice. If your against gay marriage, dont marry a gay person, if you find a certain TV program to be indecent, dont watch it...if you are against smoking marijuana, dont smoke it...but the second you try to force others to think like you and you start to stand against personal moral choices, then you become a facist.
that was the beuty of this country, it was founded on THE FREEDOM OF CHOICE
Now idiots have empowered a religious fanatic that is an enemy to the constitution and our great nations TRUE values and morals are going down the shitter.

Thess · Post by **Thess** » November 4, 2004, 6:15 pm

lol Sueven, you are right - my reading skills are lacking!

Shaerra · Post by **Shaerra** » November 4, 2004, 6:22 pm

Xzion, you are trying to force me to think like you.

You disgust you...I pity you.

Thess · Post by **Thess** » November 4, 2004, 6:24 pm

Shaerra wrote:Xzion, you are trying to force me to think like you.

You disgust you...I pity you.

But Shaerra, what religion are you!?

Shaerra · Post by **Shaerra** » November 4, 2004, 6:25 pm

Sylvos wrote:You are seriously one stupid twat, not once did i ever say i didn't believe in the fundamentals of the Cathoic Faith. How dare you even question that. You have already managed to take up almost 5 minutes of my time today in this protracted and over long offensive discussion involving how you dare question my belief system. Now you have proven you not only have no idea what you are talking about but you are also highly offensive to others especially on a very senstive topic like religion. I'm just going to stop responding cause now all i'm doing is allowing myself to be baited by a yapping dog.

So according to you, these are the words of a Catholic School Boy, an Alter Boy, a true Catholic? Tell me, do all Catholics agree with you, that you can just use the parts you like and throw out the inconveniences?

Tenuvil · Post by **Tenuvil** » November 4, 2004, 6:31 pm

Shaerra wrote:Ummm... Ok, there is only one reality. But if you are saying that I refuse to accept that there are other beliefs, I don't. I just dislike posers. You can be a Satanist if you want, but if you go around calling yourself a Mormon while preaching Satanism, I'm gonna call bullshit. And you guys can try to twist it any way you want, but if you do not believe in the fundamentals of an organization, do not call yourself a member of that organization, because if you do, you are a poser.

Nice how you can call out people en masse as "posers" without you yourself definitively saying what religion you follow, or even your gender. And if you truly are a man IRL as I suspect, then you're the biggest fucking poser of them all.

Thess · Post by **Thess** » November 4, 2004, 6:36 pm

Shaerra is a female irl.

Her true religion is unknown by me currently though!

VeeshanVault

What will the liberals do now?

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