Quiz: Are You a Neocon?

Tenuvil · Post by **Tenuvil** » October 27, 2004, 2:10 pm

For Sylvos because he loves the term "neoconservative"

http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neoco ... nQuiz.html

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » October 27, 2004, 2:17 pm

Realist

Realists…

Are guided more by practical considerations than ideological vision
Believe US power is crucial to successful diplomacy - and vice versa
Don't want US policy options unduly limited by world opinion or ethical considerations
Believe strong alliances are important to US interests
Weigh the political costs of foreign action
Believe foreign intervention must be dictated by compelling national interest
Historical realist: President Dwight D. Eisenhower

Modern realist: Secretary of State Colin Powell

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » October 27, 2004, 2:23 pm

Homicide
1 A person who kills another person.
Maniac
1. An insane person.
2. A person who has an excessive enthusiasm or desire for something: a sports maniac.
3. A person who acts in a wildly irresponsible way: maniacs on the highway.

Homicidal Maniac = what you will most likely come into contact with when you piss off Laliana with the term Neocon 5000 times a day.

miir · Post by **miir** » October 27, 2004, 2:28 pm

Liberal, obviously.

noel · Post by **noel** » October 27, 2004, 2:48 pm

Realist.

Can't say I'm suprised. Given the source website, I was kind of amazed that the questions weren't more skewed/slanted in one direction or another.

I did think the [results are not scientific] thing at the end was hilarious.

Tenuvil · Post by **Tenuvil** » October 27, 2004, 2:53 pm

Liberal

Liberals…

Are wary of American arrogance and hypocrisy
Trace much of today's anti-American hatred to previous US foreign policies.
Believe political solutions are inherently superior to military solutions
Believe the US is morally bound to intervene in humanitarian crises
Oppose American imperialism
Support international law, alliances, and agreements
Encourage US participation in the UN
Believe US economic policies must help lift up the world's poor
Historical liberal: President Woodrow Wilson

Modern liberal: President Jimmy Carter

This surprises me, because in the past I have been moderate to conservative. Thanks W for creating another worthless suburban liberal!

Lohrno · Post by **Lohrno** » October 27, 2004, 2:58 pm

Isolationist...but I don't think that's quite right...

I only want positive international relationships...

-=Lohrno

Rekaar. · Post by **Rekaar.** » October 27, 2004, 3:13 pm

Realist

Realists…

Are guided more by practical considerations than ideological vision
Believe US power is crucial to successful diplomacy - and vice versa
Don't want US policy options unduly limited by world opinion or ethical considerations
Believe strong alliances are important to US interests
Weigh the political costs of foreign action
Believe foreign intervention must be dictated by compelling national interest
Historical realist: President Dwight D. Eisenhower

Modern realist: Secretary of State Colin Powell

Post by **Sylvus** » October 27, 2004, 3:38 pm

I'm a realist too.

It's funny that you're a Bush supporter, Rek.

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » October 27, 2004, 4:01 pm

Liberal here.

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » October 27, 2004, 4:12 pm

Realist as well

Dexail · Post by **Dexail** » October 27, 2004, 4:14 pm

Realist

Midnyte_Ragebringer · October 27, 2004, 4:34 pm

Realist

Realists…

Are guided more by practical considerations than ideological vision
Believe US power is crucial to successful diplomacy - and vice versa
Don't want US policy options unduly limited by world opinion or ethical considerations
Believe strong alliances are important to US interests
Weigh the political costs of foreign action
Believe foreign intervention must be dictated by compelling national interest
Historical realist: President Dwight D. Eisenhower

Modern realist: Secretary of State Colin Powell

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » October 27, 2004, 5:03 pm

isolationist, but i would say a moderate one leaning liberal

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » October 27, 2004, 5:06 pm

delusionist

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » October 27, 2004, 5:10 pm

This reminds of when I was working on a movie set in Santa Cruz.

80% of the crew claimed to be "vegetarians" yet the 20% of meat served for dinner was always gone in five seconds.

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » October 27, 2004, 5:21 pm

HAHA, it says I'm a liberal.

miir · Post by **miir** » October 27, 2004, 5:31 pm

Adex_Xeda wrote:HAHA, it says I'm a liberal.

Don't you mean 'Liberal Pussy'?

Midnyte_Ragebringer · October 27, 2004, 5:33 pm

Sylvus wrote:
It's funny that you're a Bush supporter, Rek.

Umm, nope. If you notice, most of the Bush supporters are realists. It's more funny that you popped up as a realist. Maybe you should redo the test again. If it comes up realist again, then you need to re-assess which candidate best supports the principles you find important.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » October 27, 2004, 5:36 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Sylvus wrote:
It's funny that you're a Bush supporter, Rek.
Umm, nope. If you notice, most of the Bush supporters are realists. It's more funny that you popped up as a realist. Maybe you should redo the test again. If it comes up realist again, then you need to re-assess which candidate best supports the principles you find important.

If you think GW is a "realist" then you are a moron.

Ladex_Xedal · Post by **Ladex_Xedal** » October 27, 2004, 5:36 pm

For too many years those who happen to have the afformentioned genitalia have been repressed in our society.

No longer should we let this stand.

We must disavow our arrogant imperialist meatgrinding foreign policy and return to the collective table of nations. There together, we as a world community can address the greater issues of our society such as poverty, hunger, desecration of our environment, and misunderstandings in the middle east.

Adelrune Argenti · Post by **Adelrune Argenti** » October 27, 2004, 5:37 pm

Neocon. Not really surprised.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · October 27, 2004, 5:38 pm

Xzion wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Sylvus wrote:
It's funny that you're a Bush supporter, Rek.
Umm, nope. If you notice, most of the Bush supporters are realists. It's more funny that you popped up as a realist. Maybe you should redo the test again. If it comes up realist again, then you need to re-assess which candidate best supports the principles you find important.
If you think GW is a "realist" then you are a moron.

I don't know the man well enough to think that at all. Never said I did either. Maybe you should go out and buy a Jump to Conclusions board.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » October 27, 2004, 5:40 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Xzion wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Sylvus wrote:
It's funny that you're a Bush supporter, Rek.
Umm, nope. If you notice, most of the Bush supporters are realists. It's more funny that you popped up as a realist. Maybe you should redo the test again. If it comes up realist again, then you need to re-assess which candidate best supports the principles you find important.
If you think GW is a "realist" then you are a moron.
I don't know the man well enough to think that at all. Never said I did either. Maybe you should go out and buy a Jump to Conclusions board.

I know you didnt, im just stating a fact.

If you think GW is a realist then you are a moron.

Post by **Sylvus** » October 27, 2004, 5:45 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Sylvus wrote:
It's funny that you're a Bush supporter, Rek.
Umm, nope. If you notice, most of the Bush supporters are realists. It's more funny that you popped up as a realist. Maybe you should redo the test again. If it comes up realist again, then you need to re-assess which candidate best supports the principles you find important.

Most of the 'realistic' Bush supporters are being pretty unrealistic if they think that their candidate has followed most of the principles that seem to resonate with them.

Realists…

Are guided more by practical considerations than ideological vision
Believe US power is crucial to successful diplomacy - and vice versa
Don't want US policy options unduly limited by world opinion or ethical considerations
Believe strong alliances are important to US interests
Weigh the political costs of foreign action
Believe foreign intervention must be dictated by compelling national interest

Bush has not increased US power through successful diplomacy, has severed many of our strong alliances, and has not weighed the political costs of many of his foreign actions.

I have confidence that one of these days you're going to gain some sort of grasp of reading comprehension. In fact, I'm convinced that you may already be practicing, and that could explain your choice in a candidate.

P.S. It's a jump to conclusions mat.

Aaeamdar · Post by **Aaeamdar** » October 27, 2004, 6:33 pm

Bush has not increased US power through successful diplomacy, has severed many of our strong alliances

DON'T FORGET POLAND!!! How can you expect our troops to fight if you keep insulting our allies? Here, have some wood.

Thess · Post by **Thess** » October 27, 2004, 7:11 pm

omg who would have thought - I am a liberal

Rekaar. · Post by **Rekaar.** » October 27, 2004, 7:19 pm

It doesn't surprise me that Sylvus is a realist, there are several other reluctant kerry supporters here that would score that as well. Speaking for myself, I think I could do a better job than both candidates but I recognize Bush as the clear choice to lead the country based on what I deem a priority. That's the deciding factor I think, what you are using as your priority. Not necessarily your beliefs or thought process.

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » October 27, 2004, 7:56 pm

I came up realist.

This is kind of shaky though. Realism is a paradigm for viewing the world. Neoconservatism implies a number of specific policy beliefs that can be held under a realist or a liberal paradigm. Many scholars would claim that GW is actually a liberal in the paradigmatic sense.

Denadeb · Post by **Denadeb** » October 27, 2004, 9:10 pm

Realist

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » October 27, 2004, 9:47 pm

Apparently I'm a realist.

So does that mean there really IS a magic genie living in my head? Because I think I might just be really fucked up.

Markulas · Post by **Markulas** » October 27, 2004, 9:50 pm

bah i'm not a liberal.

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » October 27, 2004, 11:30 pm

Communist

son of a..

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » October 28, 2004, 12:06 am

DIE COMMIE BASTARD!!!11!

(it's ok to hate commies still, right?

)

Bethena · Post by **Bethena** » October 28, 2004, 1:22 am

I too show results as a realist.

Tenuvil · Post by **Tenuvil** » October 28, 2004, 1:35 am

Akaran_D wrote:DIE COMMIE BASTARD!!!11!

(it's ok to hate commies still, right? )

Cuba still has a few.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » October 28, 2004, 2:21 am

Surprise, surprise. I'm a liberal.

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » October 28, 2004, 6:13 am

Akaran_D wrote:DIE COMMIE BASTARD!!!11!

(it's ok to hate commies still, right? )

Nope, cant hate them any more, not after Putin officially supports Bush

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » October 28, 2004, 6:22 am

Suprise, suprise! I'm a slut for quizzes.

Rivera Bladestrike · Post by **Rivera Bladestrike** » October 28, 2004, 7:39 am

Liberal, not surprised.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » October 28, 2004, 11:12 am

noel wrote:Realist.

Can't say I'm suprised. Given the source website, I was kind of amazed that the questions weren't more skewed/slanted in one direction or another.

I did think the [results are not scientific] thing at the end was hilarious.

Dunno about the questions, but I don't necessarily agree w/ their scoring.. I thought perhaps some people scoring "realist" were softballing their answers so took it with the view of answering their stated positions in previous threads, and it came up realist.

Apparently CSM thinks "realist" == shoot them all and let God sort it out.

edit: curiously, changed one answer and got necon..

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » October 28, 2004, 11:23 am

Realist

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » October 28, 2004, 11:27 am

oddly enough.
Isolationist.

Tyek · Post by **Tyek** » October 28, 2004, 9:11 pm

Realist