Canada may share flue vaccine with the US...

Wulfran · Post by **Wulfran** » October 18, 2004, 12:18 pm

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... TopStories

Federal Health Minister Ujjal Dosanjh says Canada has a surplus of flu vaccine that could be provided to the United States, suffering from an unexpected vaccine shortage.

I wonder if this will happen only if Kerry is elected, because as Shrub likes to claim, Canadian drugs aren't safe...

masteen · Post by **masteen** » October 18, 2004, 12:30 pm

DON'T TRUST THOSE FILTHY BUGGERS!!! THEY PUT EVIL SERUM IN THE VACCINE TO MAKE US CROISSANT LOVING PUSSIES LIKE THEM!!!

Tenuvil · Post by **Tenuvil** » October 18, 2004, 12:34 pm

omg Masteen, now I fucking have to clean the coffee off my monitor

archeiron · Post by **archeiron** » October 18, 2004, 12:36 pm

Oh, sweet irony.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » October 18, 2004, 12:50 pm

how can we be sure that Al Qaeda didn't make this flu vaccine?!?

noel · Post by **noel** » October 18, 2004, 12:58 pm

"It looks like it's from Canada but it might be from the third world!" - W.

Drasta · Post by **Drasta** » October 18, 2004, 1:20 pm

we all know this is one more step in the plot for canada invading the USA!

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » October 18, 2004, 1:22 pm

Terence and Philip for president.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » October 18, 2004, 1:36 pm

Bush already said he'd work with Canada to get more flu vaccine in the third debate.

If you aren't about to keel over from old age, I'd stay away from flu vaccinations anyway. You are having dead flu virus shot into you from someone's best guess as to what the strain is going to be that year. No thanks. Keep that shit out of me.

The shot contains killed flu viruses that won't cause you to get the flu, but will cause your body to make antibodies to fight off infection by the live flu virus. Getting a shot of the killed virus causes you to become immune to (protected against) the particular type of live flu virus that's in the vaccine in case you come into contact with it.

The flu shot is 80% effective against the flu, which means that a few people who get the shot will still get the flu. In addition, the shot only contains certain strains of the virus. If a new flu strain emerges, a person who's had a shot may not be protected against it.

You might have some minor side effects for 1 or 2 days after the shot, like soreness in the area where you got the shot. Some people may feel achy or have a mild fever after getting the shot. But the side effects aren't as bad as the flu, which can make you sick for as long as 2 or 3 weeks.

A few people who get the nasal mist vaccine can develop mild flu-like symptoms that go away after a few days.

The ingredients for flu vaccines are actually grown inside eggs. So if you're allergic to eggs or egg products, let your doctor know before you get either type of flu vaccine.

Mmmm good stuff.

noel · Post by **noel** » October 18, 2004, 1:55 pm

OMFG THAT'S HOW A VACCINE WORKS?!?!?!!!!

AMAZING!

THANK YOU WINNOW FOR THAT TIMELY INSIGHT INTO THE INNER-WORKINGS OF THE WORLD OF MEDICINE!!!!!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » October 18, 2004, 2:19 pm

noel wrote:OMFG THAT'S HOW A VACCINE WORKS?!?!?!!!!

AMAZING!

THANK YOU WINNOW FOR THAT TIMELY INSIGHT INTO THE INNER-WORKINGS OF THE WORLD OF MEDICINE!!!!!

Quit sucking up to kyoukan with the CAPS. It shouldn't surprise you that some people don't know how it works. Afterall, you're the stooge that said we're spoonfed everything and just do as we're told.

miir · Post by **miir** » October 18, 2004, 2:19 pm

Afterall, you're the stooge that said we're spoonfed everything and just do as we're told.

There is no spoon...

Wulfran · Post by **Wulfran** » October 18, 2004, 2:24 pm

Bush already said he'd work with Canada to get more flu vaccine in the third debate.

first Canadian drugs are unsafe, now Bush will work with Canada to get more flu vaccine... what a flip flopper he is!

miir · Post by **miir** » October 18, 2004, 2:30 pm

Wulfran wrote:
Bush already said he'd work with Canada to get more flu vaccine in the third debate.
first Canadian drugs are unsafe, now Bush will work with Canada to get more flu vaccine... what a flip flopper he is!

I don't think Bush knows if they are safe or not.

Heh, Bush was trying to claim that the US blocked the flu vaccines from being shipped to the US because they were unsafe.
The fact is that the UK had blocked the vaccine shipments (they didn't meet standards) days before the Bush administration even found out they had been blocked for export.

noel · Post by **noel** » October 18, 2004, 2:32 pm

Winnow wrote:
noel wrote:OMFG THAT'S HOW A VACCINE WORKS?!?!?!!!!

AMAZING!

THANK YOU WINNOW FOR THAT TIMELY INSIGHT INTO THE INNER-WORKINGS OF THE WORLD OF MEDICINE!!!!!
Quit sucking up to kyoukan with the CAPS. It shouldn't surprise you that some people don't know how it works. Afterall, you're the stooge that said we're spoonfed everything and just do as we're told.

I'll make a deal with you, I'll *laugh* quit sucking up to Kyoukan as soon as you quit sucking up to Shaerra.

If people don't understand how a vaccine works, they should admit that now so I can further clarify who I need to ignore in this forum.

As far as the spoonfed comment, if you feel that applies to you, it's your problem, not mine. I support my troops and the Constitution, not a political machine that specializes in self-interest and deception.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » October 18, 2004, 2:48 pm

OMG THANKS YOU CANADA!!!!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » October 18, 2004, 2:48 pm

noel wrote: I'll make a deal with you, I'll *laugh* quit sucking up to Kyoukan as soon as you quit sucking up to Shaerra.

I don't suck up to Shaerra. I woo her with Haikus!

noel wrote: If people don't understand how a vaccine works, they should admit that now so I can further clarify who I need to ignore in this forum.

The best thing about this board is that you learn a thing or two between flames. People who claim to know everything are the suck. I find it entirely reasonable that someone may not know exactly what's going on with a flu vaccination.

There are smart people that don't know how to drive. There are considerably less intelligent people that would own you on a plumber thread. Take a look at the various forums on this board and you'll see various levels of knowledge about a given area. I appreciate the bits of info on this site and skip over them if I am already familiar with the particular topic.

Lohrno · Post by **Lohrno** » October 18, 2004, 2:51 pm

The thing about the vaccine is that the flu is so common that it mutates a lot. I'm not sure, but from what I hear, it mutates enough that you can quite easily get a different strain of flu than what the vaccine is effective against. That said I wish I had it done. Any chance of me not getting sick is better than none.

-=Lohrno

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » October 18, 2004, 3:02 pm

hay guys how are babies made?

Post by **Xouqoa** » October 18, 2004, 3:06 pm

Stragi wrote:hay guys how are babies made?

well stargi when 2 people luv each other vary much or are just having a raging hormons day (lozl) than they kiss and stutff and a baby is born 9 months l8r. k?

Tenuvil · Post by **Tenuvil** » October 18, 2004, 3:06 pm

Two years ago I had the flu shot for the first time ever. For three days after the shot (although they claim this won't happen) I felt like I had a low grade flu infection, with body aches, chills, a slight fever, fatigue and malaise. Three months later when a different flu strain came around, I got sick despite my vaccination. Based on that experience I doubt I'll be getting a flu shot again for the foreseeable future.

miir · Post by **miir** » October 18, 2004, 3:10 pm

Xouqoa wrote:
Stragi wrote:hay guys how are babies made?
well stargi when 2 people luv each other vary much or are just having a raging hormons day (lozl) than they kiss and stutff and a baby is born 9 months l8r. k?

A/S/L

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » October 18, 2004, 3:57 pm

Xouqoa wrote:
Stragi wrote:hay guys how are babies made?
well stargi when 2 people luv each other vary much or are just having a raging hormons day (lozl) than they kiss and stutff and a baby is born 9 months l8r. k?

kay =D

Atokal · Post by **Atokal** » October 18, 2004, 4:08 pm

noel wrote:OMFG THAT'S HOW A VACCINE WORKS?!?!?!!!!

AMAZING!

THANK YOU WINNOW FOR THAT TIMELY INSIGHT INTO THE INNER-WORKINGS OF THE WORLD OF MEDICINE!!!!!

WOW OMG NOEL YOU ARE LIKE A FUCKING GENIUS WHO KNOS EVTHING.

How about this for a new thought.... NOT everyone has had your experiences in life, not everyone knows how to shave their legs, email nude picts of themself, or insult someone for posting pertinent information to a discussion. Granted most people probably are aware of how a vaccine works. There are some people like Stragi who probably are too stupid to know this and will be thankful for the insight.

How you got to be so fucking arrogant that you not only are the spelling nazi on the board but you are now trying to decide what people should and should not know. Fuck man shut the hell up.

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » October 18, 2004, 4:10 pm

Winnow wrote:If you aren't about to keel over from old age, I'd stay away from flu vaccinations anyway. You are having dead flu virus shot into you from someone's best guess as to what the strain is going to be that year. No thanks. Keep that shit out of me.

I agree. Never had one. To be honest, I never really heard of it being a common practice until just a few years ago and the feedback has been lukewarm at best. Seriously, I just keep a bottle of purell in my bag and it usually gets me through the winter, subway/train rides and all

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » October 18, 2004, 4:12 pm

Tenuvil wrote:Two years ago I had the flu shot for the first time ever. For three days after the shot (although they claim this won't happen) I felt like I had a low grade flu infection, with body aches, chills, a slight fever, fatigue and malaise. Three months later when a different flu strain came around, I got sick despite my vaccination. Based on that experience I doubt I'll be getting a flu shot again for the foreseeable future.

Please don't relate your experiences or how things work on this thread! The same people spouting off about everyone believing what they hear and the public not thinking for themselves have a problem with someone expressing some concerns with flu shots and their effectiveness.

You people have the same mentality as you did when you were getting beat up by bullies. Give that bully your lunch money and maybe he won't keep giving you wedgies. It doesn't matter that there's 100 other types of bullies that are going to do the same thing and you just happen to be that particular bully's bitch atm. Take precautions, avoid the situations.

Lohrno · Post by **Lohrno** » October 18, 2004, 4:18 pm

Atokal wrote: How you got to be so fucking arrogant that you not only are the spelling nazi on the board but you are now trying to decide what people should and should not know. Fuck man shut the hell up.

Sorry, I guess noel forgot who he was dealing with...

No but really, that's like 6th grade biology...

-=Lohrno

noel · Post by **noel** » October 18, 2004, 5:06 pm

Atokal wrote:WOW OMG NOEL YOU ARE LIKE A FUCKING GENIUS WHO KNOS EVTHING.

How about this for a new thought.... NOT everyone has had your experiences in life, not everyone knows how to shave their legs, email nude picts of themself, or insult someone for posting pertinent information to a discussion. Granted most people probably are aware of how a vaccine works. There are some people like Stragi who probably are too stupid to know this and will be thankful for the insight.

How you got to be so fucking arrogant that you not only are the spelling nazi on the board but you are now trying to decide what people should and should not know. Fuck man shut the hell up.

You could've just said you didn't know...

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » October 18, 2004, 5:07 pm

I get the flu shot every year, got mine before the fiasco this year... never, ever got the flu, despite being around it, 80% chance to not get sick as a dog and be out of work for days... 24 bucks... ummm ok!

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » October 18, 2004, 5:09 pm

I bow to atokal's knowledge on inserting things into school children.

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » October 18, 2004, 6:45 pm

oh man atokal totally just called me stupid.
hahaha, why are you so obsessed with me bro?

I'm 21 not 12 =D

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » October 18, 2004, 7:11 pm

Pherr the Dorf wrote:I get the flu shot every year, got mine before the fiasco this year... never, ever got the flu, despite being around it, 80% chance to not get sick as a dog and be out of work for days... 24 bucks... ummm ok!

That's an 80% chance of not getting sick if you happen to be around the right strain. Your chance of getting sick without the flu shot is unknown.

I haven't gotten the flu in the past 15 years and that's without a flu shot and sick people are hard to avoid unless you live in a plastic bubble and never go outside your home.

Eat healthy, keep your body healthy and wear a Michael Jackson mask.

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » October 18, 2004, 7:51 pm

Winnow wrote:Eat healthy

Wait, weren't you the one who made a post about eating at taco bell every day or some shit like that? I have a mental association made between "Winnow" and "gargantuan amounts of fast food," but I'm not sure why. Am I thinking of someone else?[/quote]

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » October 18, 2004, 8:01 pm

Sueven wrote:
Winnow wrote:Eat healthy
Wait, weren't you the one who made a post about eating at taco bell every day or some shit like that? I have a mental association made between "Winnow" and "gargantuan amounts of fast food," but I'm not sure why. Am I thinking of someone else?

I eat Del Taco not that Taco Bell crap! I also haven't had a fresh piece of fruit in several years but that's probably not a big deal considering the posts recently on this board about canned fruits being more healthy anyway.

VANCOUVER, British Columbia (Reuters) - Canada cannot provide a quick fix to the flu vaccine shortage in the United States, even if has its own surplus of the medicine, top Canadian health officials said on Monday.

Officials said Canada is willing to help, but domestic needs come first. They caution that even if the hurdles are overcome, Canada can only replace a small portion of the expected U.S. shortfall.

"Our first priority is the availability of flu vaccines for Canadians ... if we can share it in a way that doesn't jeopardize the safety and supply for Canadians, we would do so," Dosanjh told reporters in Ottawa.

Selfish bastards! At least give us the vaccinations before Quebec! We host your snowbirds that drive down here in huge motor homes every year to Arizona to escape the blizzard of canada. I don't want them getting us sick!

Markulas · Post by **Markulas** » October 18, 2004, 8:16 pm

sometimes i feel like being sick and completely miserable.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » October 18, 2004, 9:24 pm

If you aren't about to keel over from old age, I'd stay away from flu vaccinations anyway. You are having dead flu virus shot into you from someone's best guess as to what the strain is going to be that year. No thanks. Keep that shit out of me.

Been a while since I got the lecture on vaccines and crap from an ex but.. that is how every vaccine works (some even have some live viruses in them I think?) and has been done that way for years. Anyone who is interacting with a lot of people (especially kids) should get the flu vaccine every year.

Oh and it is not that out of the ordinary to feel a bit sick after a strong vaccine. Can happen with more than the flu one.

Raistin · Post by **Raistin** » October 18, 2004, 9:26 pm

How about not letting the old and the sick live longer? Mother Nature needs to kill off some people, need more diseases/viruses like AIDS and kill off more people.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » October 18, 2004, 9:30 pm

On that note, read some shocking comments by a Nobel winner who claimed AIDS is a biologically created virus to exterminate non-whites. I about fell off my chair when I read it, and the entire Nobel committee started working overtime to figure out if the quotes were real heh.

Denadeb · Post by **Denadeb** » October 18, 2004, 9:49 pm

On that note, read some shocking comments by a Nobel winner who claimed AIDS is a biologically created virus to exterminate non-whites. I about fell off my chair when I read it, and the entire Nobel committee started working overtime to figure out if the quotes were real heh.

As evil as Whitey is it has to be true.

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » October 18, 2004, 9:55 pm

Federal Health Minister Ujjal Dosanjh

Anyone know where that name comes from?

Raistin · Post by **Raistin** » October 18, 2004, 10:05 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:

Sounds like a sand niggers name to me. We should send him off to Cuba to be beaten, and held with all his rights being supressed. Thats the best way Bush has told us we can win this war

wtf dude

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » October 18, 2004, 10:07 pm

Why are we talking about Canada anyways? Isnt canada in mexico or another one of those european countrys?
We need to ask our neutral swedish neighbors for some vaccine

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » October 18, 2004, 10:09 pm

Sueven wrote:
Federal Health Minister Ujjal Dosanjh
Anyone know where that name comes from?

Im thinking India, just a guess though.

Markulas · Post by **Markulas** » October 18, 2004, 11:23 pm

I hate to kinda derail the talk, but has anyone else read the last part of The Hot Zone by Richard Preston? Pretty interesting commentary on how maybe disease might be created from Earth to get rid of the problem(us). It's nothing fanatical but gives pretty good insight for a popular book.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » October 19, 2004, 10:46 am

The human race is a virus. Just ask agent Smith.

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » October 19, 2004, 11:51 am

Raistin wrote:Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Sounds like a sand niggers name to me. We should send him off to Cuba to be beaten, and held with all his rights being supressed. Thats the best way Bush has told us we can win this war
wtf dude

that was uncalled for!

noel · Post by **noel** » October 19, 2004, 12:02 pm

Stragi wrote:
Raistin wrote:Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Sounds like a sand niggers name to me. We should send him off to Cuba to be beaten, and held with all his rights being supressed. Thats the best way Bush has told us we can win this war
wtf dude
that was uncalled for!

I vote we sent Midnyte to the chamber in Atokal's basement to be beaten!

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » October 19, 2004, 12:24 pm

imo midnyte can do better

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » October 19, 2004, 12:38 pm

Xzion wrote:Why are we talking about Canada anyways? Isnt canada in mexico or another one of those european countrys?
We need to ask our neutral swedish neighbors for some vaccine

I would like to thank you for single handedly destroying my faith in the American Educational System.

Post by **Sylvus** » October 19, 2004, 12:57 pm

Actually, Sylvos, that's a pretty clear parody of George Bush's recent confusion of Sweden vs. Switzerland.