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Explain this one to me..

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20040930_894.html
Daily Six-Pack Drinker Wants Pennsylvania Driving Privileges Back, Claims Clean Record

LEBANON, Pa. Sept. 30, 2004 — A man who lost his driving privileges after his doctor reported to police that he drank a six-pack of beer a day is taking his fight to a higher court.

Keith Emerich, 44, asked Commonwealth Court to overturn the state Department of Transportation's decision to revoke his license.

A Lebanon County Common Pleas judge upheld the decision, but ruled that Emerich may obtain restricted driving privileges as long as he uses a device that tests his blood-alcohol content before starting his car.

Emerich, 44, a printing company employee, was notified in April he would lose his license, about two months after he disclosed his drinking habit to doctors treating him for an irregular heartbeat.

A Pennsylvania law from the 1960s requires doctors to report any impairments in patients that could compromise their ability to drive safely.

Emerich has said he does not drive drunk and argued that he has reduced his beer drinking to weekends and has a clean driving record apart from a drunk-driving conviction when he was 21.
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Personally I think thats BS they took his lic. Who says you can't come home from work and drink a 6 pack. If he was driving around drunk then yes I could see that as a problem but as it stands they had no right to revoke his lic.
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It was part of his plea he had from his first DUI. Thats why they took it away again.

Asides if you have a DUI you shouldnt be allowed to drive period. its just like cheating, do it once, you will do it again.
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After 7 years a DUI is taken off your driving record. Lets see DUI when he was 21 he is now 44 thats what 23 years. He made a fucking mistake I'm sure he paid for it. He has no other incidents on his record then they had no grounds to pull it other than the guy told his doc that he drinks 6 beers a day. Jesus you know how easy it is to drink 6 beers in the course of one day and not even get buzzed.

Oh and some people actually do learn from their mistakes and don't make them again.
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Denadeb wrote:Oh and some people actually do learn from their mistakes and don't make them again.
what? .000000000001% of the population learn from their mistakes?
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Drasta wrote:
Denadeb wrote:Oh and some people actually do learn from their mistakes and don't make them again.
what? .000000000001% of the population learn from their mistakes?
I'm sure when you shit your pants you eventually learned from that and quit shitting in them, and instead used the bathroom.

So I guess you've learned from your mistakes! However, the rest of us are still obviously shitting our pants, since we're not that special.
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do you know what the rate of people that get out of prison ending up back in prison is? i donno what it is but i know its really high .. if winnow reads this he's good at finding data like that and im sure he could point it out.
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Drasta wrote:do you know what the rate of people that get out of prison ending up back in prison is? i donno what it is but i know its really high .. if winnow reads this he's good at finding data like that and im sure he could point it out.
With startlingly clear and concise facts like that, no one stands a chance of defeating your ironclad argument!
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Drasta wrote:do you know what the rate of people that get out of prison ending up back in prison is? i donno what it is but i know its really high .. if winnow reads this he's good at finding data like that and im sure he could point it out.
I debated this a while back and the reason why the percentage of people returning to jail here is so much higher than it is back home. Bottom line is that the rehabilitation system here sucks donkey ass.
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I had a DUI in '95. Stopped drinking. Got pulled over at a checkpoint and had no other violations at all...not even a seatbelt violation. I am a danger to society though because I am bound to do it again!
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Raistin wrote:It was part of his plea he had from his first DUI. That’s why they took it away again.

Asides if you have a DUI you shouldn’t be allowed to drive period. Its just like cheating, do it once, you will do it again.
Dont tell me you have never driven home partially drunk at least once in your life, because thats bullshit. Everyone makes mistakes, its just a matter of getting caught or not.
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I will tell you straight up. I have never drinked and drived at all. If im at a part and have a few drinks I stay home.


The reason is this.

My bestfriend of 12 years died because of it. he was drunk and slammed his bike in to the side of a jeep. It was pretty fucked up since I had to identify his body, with out the god damn head on him.


Then 7 years later, a friend of mine i worked with. He did the same thing, but slammed the bike in to the side of a car killing the mother and daughter, and himself.

They both died at the same intersection. I put flowers there once every month in remberence. This is why I never have. Adam was only 17 at the time, and Aaron was 22.


haha god damn it now im crying like a little bitch. dont tell xouqoa. im very very aginist Drunk driving. If i see someone even slightly fucked up ont he road, I get them to pull over and call the police.
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Raistin wrote:haha god damn it now im crying like a little bitch. dont tell xouqoa. im very very aginist Drunk driving. If i see someone even slightly fucked up ont he road, I get them to pull over and call the police.
Is that what all that noise was in there?!
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Give up booze completely.
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Drinking and Driving should be a one time thing, then you lose the license. Driving is a privilege not a right, and no one has ever been forced to drive drunk.

Rehabilitation does not apply to someone stupid enough to drink and drive, fuck 'em they can catch the bus.
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LMAO I remember that being on the front page if the Altoona Mirror.
Customers who bought a paper that morning laughed then would make their comments.
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Dont tell me you have never driven home partially drunk at least once in your life, because thats bullshit. Everyone makes mistakes, its just a matter of getting caught or not.
Never have. Never will. It's not that damn difficult to avoid it. I have zero pity for anyone who has done it, and I quietly laugh every time I see the yellow lisence plates with red text here knowing what an idiot is driving it.
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i've don't drink .. last time i had somthing to drink it was a tiny sip of a schmernof ice and it burned like hell going down and that was 3 years ago... long story behind why i did but ... its not that hard not to drive home drunk if you have to get trashed to have a good time ... then your a loser
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Kylere wrote:Drinking and Driving should be a one time thing, then you lose the license. Driving is a privilege not a right, and no one has ever been forced to drive drunk.

Rehabilitation does not apply to someone stupid enough to drink and drive, fuck 'em they can catch the bus.
A little sidetrack, but how many DUI's did GW Bush have?
Dick Cheney also had one or two if i remember.
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Just caught some "People on the News" or something like that on CNN and it was about Cheney.

Was mostly listening and picked up he had 2 DUI's very soon after high school. I looked up from reading and saw a copy of one of the charge sheets or something. It looked like he paid a $100 dollar fine.

edit: Smoking Gun has the scoop http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/cheney_doc.html
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A Pennsylvania law from the 1960s requires doctors to report any impairments in patients that could compromise their ability to drive safely.
Aren't there national laws regarding doctor/patient confidentiality?
Does state law supercede national law?

If this guy can prove his drinking habits do not compromise his ability to drive could the doctor have a hefty lawsuit on his hands?
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thats the thing. I think if i remember right, the guy had smelled like beer when he went for his vist. Thus the doctor promply asked him that question.
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Drasta wrote:do you know what the rate of people that get out of prison ending up back in prison is? i donno what it is but i know its really high .. if winnow reads this he's good at finding data like that and im sure he could point it out.
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Xzion- wrote:
Kylere wrote:Drinking and Driving should be a one time thing, then you lose the license. Driving is a privilege not a right, and no one has ever been forced to drive drunk.

Rehabilitation does not apply to someone stupid enough to drink and drive, fuck 'em they can catch the bus.
A little sidetrack, but how many DUI's did GW Bush have?
Dick Cheney also had one or two if i remember.
And? If they did they should not having driving rights, it should be the law.
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Post by Kilmoll the Sexy »

And if making one mistake means you should have no rights, then you should not be married again.


BTW....you would have blown over the legal limit up at the Back Porch when Pils and Claritan and everyone went up there.


disclaimer for Fesuni's sake: by blown, I mean on a breathalyzer and by Back Porch I mean it is the name of a bar.
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Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:And if making one mistake means you should have no rights, then you should not be married again.


BTW....you would have blown over the legal limit up at the Back Porch when Pils and Claritan and everyone went up there.


disclaimer for Fesuni's sake: by blown, I mean on a breathalyzer and by Back Porch I mean it is the name of a bar.
Umm remember I lived across the way, and we WALKED. My getting a divorce and getting married a 2nd time caused me to drive more safely. Anymore points o bald one?
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