Documents Reveal Gaps in Bush's Service as President.

[Zaelath]

http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4039

WASHINGTON, DC—Freshly unearthed public documents, ranging from newspapers to cabinet-meeting minutes, seem to indicate large gaps in George W. Bush's service as president, a spokesman for the watchdog group Citizens for an Informed Society announced Monday.
Bush, who stands accused of shirking his presidential duties.
Above: Bush, who stands accused of shirking his presidential duties.

"We originally invoked the Freedom Of Information Act to request material relating to Bush's spotty record while in office," CIS director Catherine Rocklin said. "But then we realized that the information was readily available at the corner newsstand, on the Internet, and from our friends and neighbors who pay attention to the news."

If only he did less... =)

[kyoukan]

considering he's spent over half his term in office on vacation in texas I would say that there is less parody here than fact.

yeah yeah I know, "hurr hurr working vacation duh george bush is my hero durrrrr, etc." and whatever lame excuses you twits have for the worst president in the last century.

[Nick]

[Akaran_D]

Bush > Clinton

[Animalor]

Bush > Clinton

That I find funny is that people actually believe this.

[Arundel Pajo]

2 + 2 = 5

[Akaran_D]

Just as we find it funny when people don't.

[Kelshara]

Getting a blowjob > Getting a lobotomy.

[Arundel Pajo]

Getting kinky with an intern and a cigar > ass raping the nation

[Akaran_D]

Removing a henious dictator from power, bringing (some) freedoms to the afghanis, leading the coutnry in the face of a national disaster, dealing with a wartime economy, and actually standing up for his beliefs > taking credit for the results of the republican economic contrlls from the previous presidency, ignoring the situation in afghanistan, wasting multi million dollar weapons against insignificant targets in the mid east, blatantly lieing to the american public (then getting caught), being involved in dozens of other scandals, allowing partial birth abortions to be legal, and making an international joke of the white house, not to mention allowing two different occasions where the government could not function because of an inability to pass budget reform (yeah, I realize part of this was the repub's fault too).

[Arborealus]

Removing a henious dictator from power, bringing (some) freedoms to the afghanis, leading the coutnry in the face of a national disaster, dealing with a wartime economy, and actually standing up for his beliefs > taking credit for the results of the republican economic contrlls from the previous presidency, ignoring the situation in afghanistan, wasting multi million dollar weapons against insignificant targets in the mid east, blatantly lieing to the american public (then getting caught), being involved in dozens of other scandals, allowing partial birth abortions to be legal, and making an international joke of the white house, not to mention allowing two different occasions where the government could not function because of an inability to pass budget reform (yeah, I realize part of this was the repub's fault too).

Heh this actually made me laugh out loud...

[Akaran_D]

I'm so happy you can find humor in past mistakes.

[Kelshara]

Removing a henious dictator from power, bringing (some) freedoms to the afghanis, leading the coutnry in the face of a national disaster, dealing with a wartime economy, and actually standing up for his beliefs > taking credit for the results of the republican economic contrlls from the previous presidency, ignoring the situation in afghanistan, wasting multi million dollar weapons against insignificant targets in the mid east, blatantly lieing to the american public (then getting caught), being involved in dozens of other scandals, allowing partial birth abortions to be legal, and making an international joke of the white house, not to mention allowing two different occasions where the government could not function because of an inability to pass budget reform (yeah, I realize part of this was the repub's fault too).

I see you had your daily shot of the Neocon Kool-Aid already. I expect Metanis, Cartalas and Midnyte to come storming in to this thread with guns blazing any time now.

[Nick]

Ouch Akaran, don't wanna be a dick as I think your a fairly decent old pip!
But jeeeeez, if you in any way actually support Bush you simply do not understand the concept of an evolved multilateral peace force , something vitally important in keeping this 'terror' threat under control. Voting for Bush is reactionary and short sighted.

( Just in case! ) Do not begin to tell me about terror threat, I live in Northern Ireland where terror has been an issue for longer than a cbs newsflash!

Not trying to just kill your soul through insult, simply stating my feelings, i am teh shocked and awed!

This is the one that got to me:

an international joke of the white house

If you think Clinton did more damage to the world, or the US, or to international opinion, you are simply wrong, my friend, I tell you this as a factual point.

[Fairweather Pure]

I'll just C/P a response I made on another board about how great Bush is.

He has turned a surplus into a deficit (the largest in history), peace into war, and prosperity into recession. He has turned democracy into plutocracy, and put himself and his party above the basic principles we all hold dear. He panders to the religious right, bypasses inaliable rights, seeks constitutional amendments against gays, is an enemy against the environment, cut healthcare benefits for vetrens, and the gap between the rich and the poor has grown cosiderably since he was appointed to office by the Supreme Court. He decieved America into a war with Iraq, turned decade long international allies against us, and is in bed with big oil and corporate America more than any other President in the history of our nation.

On a personal level, his Vietnam service, or lack thereof, is deplorable considering how quick he was to encourage a war with Iraq. He is the first President in US history to have a criminal record. The fact that all his records as governor of Texas, all the SEC investigations into his insider trading or bankrupt companies, and all minutes of meetings for any public corporation he served on the board are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view, is extremely disconcerning. Don't even get me started on his inability to communicate using basic grammer and at least a 4th grade vocabulary.

He and his crew are the most secretive and canieving government in the history of the United States. Bush's cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. They passed the Patriot Act in the dead of night, in the wake of 9/11 fears. This administration has had the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television and Bush has signed more laws and executive orders circumventing the Constitution than any president in US history.

In short, Bush promised to be "a uniter, not a divider" and he failed worse than his father's promise of "read my lips, no more taxes". We are living in the most divided nation since perhaps the Civial War. Bush has caused the most worldwide protests in the history of the world (one day had 15 million people walking in protest all at once).

The apologists will pop out of the woodwork now and fingerpoint everything I just listed away from the President, which will not change the facts or the way history will remember George W. Bush. I imagine Nixon still had his rabid followers even as he was climbing aboard his helicopter to give the 2 finger salute we all remember so well.

Why do so many people still insist on defending this guy? Are you blind?

[miir]

Clinton actually practiced decent foreign policy.
International opinion of the US was generally favorable during Clinton's presidency.


I find it hard to fathom that you actually believe most of the stuff you just typed, Akaran.

[Zaelath]

To be fair that recession was going to happen anyway. He should be brought to answer for pilfering the public purse to pay off his contributors though.

[Sylvus]

wasting multi million dollar weapons against insignificant targets in the mid east
blatantly lieing to the american public (then getting caught)
being involved in dozens of other scandals
making an international joke of the white house

You were talking about who?

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

wasting multi million dollar weapons against insignificant targets in the mid east
blatantly lieing to the american public (then getting caught)
being involved in dozens of other scandals
making an international joke of the white house

You were talking about who?

Sounds like Clinton to me.

[Hoarmurath]

You were talking about who?

Sounds like Clinton to me.

Sounds like someone likes answering rhetorical questions.

[Akaran_D]

I don't support Bush. I think the man has made a metric ton of mistakes and hasn't repaired any of the damage made to the honor of the white house under clinton - I beleive he did, in actuality, make it worse.

However! While I think that Bush is an idiot, I think he's less of one than Clinton was. Or, more percisely, I think Clinton screwed more things up and signed more things into law than Bush has that I disagree with both on a moral and political standpoint.

Better?

[*~*stragi*~*]

I seem to recall a little something called Kosovo, which was handled about 1000000x more effectively than Little Bushy's money making scheme, aka "The War on Terror"

[Nick]

I just cannot imagine how much of a spinfactory the U.S has become for someone of your intellect to even consider that Akaran !!!

[Akaran_D]

Sorry Teeny. From a moral standpoint, I despise Clinton.
From a legal standpoint, I despise Bush.

I don't think this coutnry has had an honest, good president for as long as I've been alive. Clinton was liked a lot more than Bush is in the international community; I'm not going to deny that, and they have good reason NOT to like Bush. Clinton signed a lot more aid over than Bush has as well, and Clinton did not take a very proactive response to terrorism and rogue nations like Bush has.

Clinton worked with the UN, Bush hasn't. Bush made enemies where Clinton did not, and Clinton did not react with shows of force like Bush has. I don't particulary like the methods and lack of thought that Bush used to get the point across, and if Kerry can repair that damage that Bush has caused, I am all for it and will gladly support him over Bush any day of the week. However, in the wake of 9/11, a heavy handed take no bullshit attitude is something I can easily and readily agree with and I am glad we had a president in power capable of using it. I desperately wish he had done it better, and I do not support the actions he took to accomplish it.

Further, I am not a neocon, I am not working with a 'party agenda', I don't even get along with Midnyte and don't know Metanis at all - to say less of Cart and the others. I am my own person, and these are my beliefs. I dislike both parties and both canidates and I make my hatred equal towards them all.

[miir]

hasn't repaired any of the damage made to the honor of the white house under clinton

Honor?
In whos opinion?

I don't recall any international politicians referring to Clinton as a 'moron'... or calling the US and their allies a 'coalition of idiots'.

International opinion of the US while Clinton was in office was quite good. He was respected and admired internationally.
Four years removed from the whitehouse and he is still a very popular international figure.

The Bush administration has put the US into the shitter, globally.
People don't like America because of that shithead you call a president.
He has pitiful foreign relations, he's arrogant, condescending and isolationist.
He can't seem to grasp the concept that the US is part of a global community and that other countries should be dealt with as peers, not as subordinates.

[Akaran_D]

Clitnon was the butt of international jokes and the second president in our country to be impeached. Bush hasn't - maybe he should.

I don't disagree with you on your other statements.

[Winnow]

Still debating this?

Here are some interesting numbers for you. In Arizona, polls show that 14 percent of registered democrats are voting for Bush as opposed to 7 percent of republicans voting for Kerry. The democrats can't even get their own party to vote for Kerry.

The general feeling is that Kerry is not a valid candidate and total lack of confidence in him.

Focus on 2008. If you're a democrat, that's your big chance. Don't blow it by putting Hillary up as the candidate.

[miir]

Polls have shown that 98% of all polls are inaccurate.

[Hoarmurath]

Polls are infallible, as long as they support your argument.

[Winnow]

I'll only have one response to this on the evening of November 2nd...

SCOREBOARD!

[miir]

I'll only have one response to this on the evening of November 2nd...

SCOREBOARD!

If only we could get you to shut your cakehole between now and then....

[archeiron]

Clitnon was the butt of international jokes and the second president in our country to be impeached. Bush hasn't - maybe he should.

I don't disagree with you on your other statements.

During Clinton's terms, I lived in Holland, France, and England. Neither the media nor the people I had contact with would lead me to believe that this statement is valid. Americans are not well loved overseas, in my experience, but Clinton was certainly not disliked.

[Cartalas]

hasn't repaired any of the damage made to the honor of the white house under clinton

Honor?
In whos opinion?

I don't recall any international politicians referring to Clinton as a 'moron'... or calling the US and their allies a 'coalition of idiots'.

International opinion of the US while Clinton was in office was quite good. He was respected and admired internationally.
Four years removed from the whitehouse and he is still a very popular international figure.

The Bush administration has put the US into the shitter, globally.
People don't like America because of that shithead you call a president.
He has pitiful foreign relations, he's arrogant, condescending and isolationist.
He can't seem to grasp the concept that the US is part of a global community and that other countries should be dealt with as peers, not as subordinates.

Your only concern is the fact if Bush get re-elected you beloved Ass Ramming lifestyle will be effected.

[miir]

During Clinton's terms, I lived in Holland, France, and England. Neither the media nor the people I had contact with would lead me to believe that this statement is valid. Americans are not well loved overseas, in my experience, but Clinton was certainly not disliked.

Very true.
Even the elder Bush was not as internationally disliked as GWB.


I suspect it would be rather difficult to find any administration in the past 50 years that has done more international harm to the US. I don't recall, in my lifetime, ever seeing your country as divided as it is right now.

[Winnow]

During Clinton's terms, I lived in Holland, France, and England. Neither the media nor the people I had contact with would lead me to believe that this statement is valid. Americans are not well loved overseas, in my experience, but Clinton was certainly not disliked.

Very true.
Even the elder Bush was not as internationally disliked as GWB.


I suspect it would be rather difficult to find any administration in the past 50 years that has done more international harm to the US. I don't recall, in my lifetime, ever seeing your country as divided as it is right now.

Clinton didn't have to deal with 911 and ignored Iraq after the Gulf war. Of course people liked him or were indifferent to him. Bush doesn't puss out in the face of world opinion. Clinton was more interested in banging chicks and what people thought of him than world affairs.

[Sylvus]

Bush had, hands-down, more support behind him after 9/11 from all over the world than just about any president has ever had. Now he has less support from the rest of the world than any president in recent memory.

[Voronwë]

Clinton didn't have to deal with 911 and ignored Iraq after the Gulf war. Of course people liked him or were indifferent to him. Bush doesn't puss out in the face of world opinion. Clinton was more interested in banging chicks and what people thought of him than world affairs.

so in 1996(?) did the United States on a Saturday night launch cruise missiles that destroyed the offices of the Iraqi Intelligence agency in response to the attempt by Saddam Hussein to assassinate former President Bush in Kuwait?

Interesting aside, according to Richard Clarke, Clinton wanted verification from the CIA that we had hit the target before he went live to the nation describing the strike. While the CIA was trying to figure out how the fuck they were going to tell them they had no way to verify , they see Clinton on TV making the announcement. After the speech, Gore and Clinton come into the room with Tenant, Clarke and others. Clarke asks about why the president didn't want the verification. Gore laughs, and Clinton says "well when it appeared to me that you guys couldnt answer the question, i just called CNN"

[Kelshara]

Clitnon was the butt of international jokes and the second president in our country to be impeached. Bush hasn't - maybe he should.

Clinton wasn't the butt of international jokes.. the whole impeachment crap was. And they didn't laugh at him, they laughed at you all for wasting millions of dollars over a blowjob. So the joke is on you, not him.

Also, there are WAY more international jokes about Bush than there was about the impeachment process of Clinton.

Bush had world support which hasn't been seen since WWII right after 9/11 and during Afghanistan. Then he fucked it all up in his own greedy way.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Bush had, hands-down, more support behind him after 9/11 from all over the world than just about any president has ever had. Now he has less support from the rest of the world than any president in recent memory.

Perception.

[Kelshara]

Verifiable truths have nothing to do with perception.. unless you are a neocon Bush lover.

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

This is because most of the countries have some fear that they might be next on the agenda.

The one huge reason I would support Bush over Kerry is that I know Bush will keep the pressure on with the military for the next 4 years. No one feared retaliation by Clinton in the least. You have less chance of someone making a strike in the U.S. if you are keeping them busy defending themselves elsewhere.

[Sylvus]

Bush had, hands-down, more support behind him after 9/11 from all over the world than just about any president has ever had. Now he has less support from the rest of the world than any president in recent memory.

Perception.

Which part of that is perception?

How do you view the post-9/11 feelings of the rest of the world toward the United States and how do you view their current feelings?

[Tenuvil]

I'd consider Reagan, Carter and Kennedy the only great leaders the US has had during the latter part of the 20th century. And I'm sure those three names are very much open to debate.

[Voronwë]

This is because most of the countries have some fear that they might be next on the agenda.

The one huge reason I would support Bush over Kerry is that I know Bush will keep the pressure on with the military for the next 4 years. No one feared retaliation by Clinton in the least. You have less chance of someone making a strike in the U.S. if you are keeping them busy defending themselves elsewhere.

Interesting you bring this up. The facts show otherwise.

I would suggest that the 2nd most dangerous nation in the world is Iran (3rd most if you think the US is dangerous). In 1996 Iran backed terrorist strikes on US personnel based in Saudi Arabia and was increasing the funding of Hezbollah in various countries in the region. After the CIA under Clinton conducted some substantial operations against Iran, they strongly backed down from their blatant operations against the United States.

What has Bush done to deter the aggressions of Iran? Today Iran is *really* working on nuclear weapon capability and has missiles that can accurately reach targets like Tel Aviv (in contrast to Iraqi missiles). Iran is actively fomenting anti-American groups in southern Shii'a dominated Iraq. Iran is actively working to destabilize Iraq through funding and allowing the movement of insurgents across its border, as well as actively implanting intelligence infrastructure within the destabilized country that they can use for espionage as well as political engineering.

[Sueven]

allowing partial birth abortions to be legal

Whoa. I thought it was just universally understood that this was a bullshit political wedge issue?

[masteen]

Who is your #1, Voro?

[Voronwë]

North Korea

[Winnow]

so in 1996(?) did the United States on a Saturday night launch cruise missiles that destroyed the offices of the Iraqi Intelligence agency in response to the attempt by Saddam Hussein to assassinate former President Bush in Kuwait?

Come on Voro! Every president gets to fire a few missiles at a country during their term. I'm talking serious action : )

I remember when the 50th pushed out deadline for Iraq, due to trying to keep the UN happy, finally passed, Bush fired off like 40 Tomahawks at the location they thought Saddam was. That must have caught his attention : ) Actually, I think the missiles hit a few minutes before the deadline...anyone remember?

[Lynks]

Perception is just one of Midnyte's words he uses quite often, kinda like label, and negativity. Yet, we never knows what he means by it, and he can't explain either.

Here's a perception for you Midnyte, 90% of this board thinks you're a douche that will support Bush no matter what he says/does despite the fact that you claim you don't, and, 63% of people make up stats.

[Aaeamdar]

Clinton > Bush? Certainly true. But its such a low hurdle for Clinton to get over.

Harrison > Bush.