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http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicsel ... ball_x.htm
WASHINGTON — Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry has a new political attack group to contend with.

Two Washington-based lawyers supporting President Bush's re-election have registered an advocacy group, Football Fans for Truth, as a Section 527 organization allowed to accept unlimited political donations. They plan to publicize Kerry's recent sports misstatements such as his reference to home of the Green Bay Packers as "Lambert Field" instead of Lambeau Field.

Other gaffes they hope to bring wider attention to include Kerry's talk of the Buckeyes — the nickname of Ohio State University's team — while campaigning in University of Michigan Wolverine territory.

Lawyers Jeff Larroca and Dino Panagopoulos, both members of the law firm Ballard Spahr Andrews & Ingersoll, said in a conference call Wednesday they have no plans to raise large amounts of cash.

Instead, they hope to get free publicity from sports talk radio and other media.

"Our goal is to basically find ways to get out the political humor about John Kerry's unsuitability to be sportsman-in-chief," Larroca said.

Greg Le Duc, a Green Bay native who has written a screenplay about the life of Packers founder Earl "Curly" Lambeau that he is shopping around Hollywood, indicated in an e-mail Wednesday that Kerry's mistake is understandable.

"For John Kerry, it was probably just a slip since Lambeau is such a unique name compared to Lambert," said Le Duc, who would like to see Burt Reynolds play Packers co-founder George Whitney Calhoun in his movie.

Larroca and Panagopoulos characterized Kerry as a "sports poser" who said his favorite Boston Red Sox player was someone never on the team.

"Some people like the fact that he is an avid dove hunter," Larroca said.

Asked about their involvement in the Bush campaign, they would only say, "We both have yard signs."

This campaign season, both gave $1,000 to the Bush-Cheney campaign and $250 to moderate Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, who had a tough primary battle in the spring against a conservative challenger. Larroca also gave $250 to Sen. Barbara Mikulski, D-Md., according to Federal Election Commission records.

Meanwhile, the Bush campaign has played up its tenuous affinity to the Packers with Wisconsin voters.

Last week Vice President Dick Cheney visited Green Bay, Sheboygan and Milwaukee with former Packers quarterback Bart Starr.

In Green Bay, Cheney pointed out he worked 38 years ago for then-Wisconsin Gov. Warren Knowles.

"And one of the privileges of working for the governor was he was a great Packer fan," Cheney said. "And we used to catch football games."

The founders of Football Fans for Truth claim they came up with their idea about a week ago — neither could remember the exact day — during a fantasy football league draft when friends were laughing about Kerry's lack of sports knowledge.

"As the chuckles drew roars, somebody said, 'You should start a 527,'" said Larroca, referring to the section of Internal Revenue Service code that allows political advocacy groups to receive tax-exempt donations.

Panagopoulos, a former Texan who is a Dallas Cowboys fan, and Larroca, who grew up in the Washington area as a diehard Redskins fan, agreed Wednesday that Lambeau, for whom Lambeau Field is named, was one of the original Three Stooges.

They were joking, right?

"I'm serious," Larroca said. "I believe Curly Lambeau was one of the Three Stooges, and that's my final answer."

"We know it has been named Lambeau Field for several years," Panagopoulos added. (1965 to be exact.)

True Packers fans know that Lambeau is a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame and coached the team for 31 years, winning three consecutive championships from 1929 to 1931.

So will the founders of Football Fans for Truth care if the Packers have a winning season, building on their impressive victory on "Monday Night Football" against the Carolina Panthers?

"I root for the Packers when they play the Redskins," said Panagopoulos, the Dallas fan.
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shows how fucking retared most bush supporters are, they will vote for Bush because john kerry is not as pop culturally educated when it comes to football trivia
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trying to attack kerry on actual issues when you are a bush supporter is basically impossible, so the bush admin and their shady GOP-funded 527 orgs have to stoop to petty shit like this and usually outright lies.
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Is this article for real?

-edit- This kind of crap is how he will win the election. Forget the black vote, I want the moron vote because they are not being adequately represented!

Ah, catering to the moron vote.
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Krimson Klaw wrote:Is this article for real?

-edit- This kind of crap is how he will win the election. Forget the black vote, I want the moron vote because they are not being adequately represented!

Ah, catering to the moron vote.
Sorry, Kerry's got that market cornered :(
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whoa dude lol he totilly owned u
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Xzion wrote:shows how fucking retared most bush supporters are, they will vote for Bush because john kerry is not as pop culturally educated when it comes to football trivia
MOST?

Uh-huh....


http://www.johnkerryisadouchebagbutimvo ... nyway.com/


In your thinking does this signify how retarded "most" Kerry supporters are?
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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Xzion wrote:shows how fucking retared most bush supporters are, they will vote for Bush because john kerry is not as pop culturally educated when it comes to football trivia
MOST?

Uh-huh....


http://www.johnkerryisadouchebagbutimvo ... nyway.com/


In your thinking does this signify how retarded "most" Kerry supporters are?
Does it look like they support Kerry, they are just voting for him. Its all about perception retard. Stop being so negative. Don't label them idiot. <Add any other Midnyte reference here>
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Lynks wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Xzion wrote:shows how fucking retared most bush supporters are, they will vote for Bush because john kerry is not as pop culturally educated when it comes to football trivia
MOST?

Uh-huh....


http://www.johnkerryisadouchebagbutimvo ... nyway.com/


In your thinking does this signify how retarded "most" Kerry supporters are?
Does it look like they support Kerry, they are just voting for him. Its all about perception retard. Stop being so negative. Don't label them idiot. <Add any other Midnyte reference here>
Neat play on words but did I label anyone in my comment? Nope. Was I negative? Nope. But you go ahead and keep misrepresenting me. I, unlike Kerry, won't continue to sway back forth all over based on your opinion.
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how retarded "most" Kerry supporters are
what did you say? I couldn't hear over the BS you just tried telling me. That looks like a label to me.

And yes, I'm aware I didn't put then entire quote.
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Lynks wrote:
how retarded "most" Kerry supporters are
what did you say? I couldn't hear over the BS you just tried telling me. That looks like a label to me.

And yes, I'm aware I didn't put then entire quote.
In your thinking does this signify how retarded "most" Kerry supporters are?

In your thinking does this signify how retarded "most" Kerry supporters are?

In your thinking does this signify how retarded "most" Kerry supporters are?




Quote the whole thing mmmmkay Dan Rather?
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Bush gets hammered all the time for the type of gaffes attributed to Kerry in this piece. You know Letterman and Leno would be all over him. Although I think this is largely humorous I would also ask why Kerry should get a bye for the same sort of verbal screwups?
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Metanis wrote:Bush gets hammered all the time for the type of gaffes attributed to Kerry in this piece. You know Letterman and Leno would be all over him. Although I think this is largely humorous I would also ask why Kerry should get a bye for the same sort of verbal screwups?
They make fun of Kerry for having no emotion and a boring personality, while bush doesnt hold these qualitys as much...
they make fun of bush for being a fucking moron, kerry doesnt act like a fucking moron as much as bush, so hence bush is made fun of for being a fucking moron and a looser, kerry is made fun of for being boring and indecisive

so i guess you can choose between a fucking moronic rich white looser and a boring indicisive rich white senator
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trying to attack kerry on actual issues when you are a bush supporter is basically impossible, so the bush admin and their shady GOP-funded 527 orgs have to stoop to petty shit like this and usually outright lies.
As soon as Kerry takes an actual stance on an issue, I'll be more than happy to attack him on it. Until then, yeah, it's pretty well impossible. :)
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what issue would you like me to point out what kerry's stance is on?
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kyoukan wrote:what issue would you like me to point out what kerry's stance is on?
I'd like Kerry to point out his views clearly, not yet another persons interpretation of what they think Kerry's current stance on something is.
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you mean other than like the fifty times thess has quoted directly from john kerry's website on practically every issue talked about in this campaign? other than those ones?
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kyoukan wrote:you mean other than like the fifty times thess has quoted directly from john kerry's website on practically every issue talked about in this campaign? other than those ones?
The same issues that have been posted there for months now and have not changed!
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Post them 'ere then.
I've better thigns to do than visit his website.. seriously..
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Thess wrote:
kyoukan wrote:you mean other than like the fifty times thess has quoted directly from john kerry's website on practically every issue talked about in this campaign? other than those ones?
The same issues that have been posted there for months now and have not changed!
Then they call Michael Moore movies propaganda while taking verbatim every word that comes out of one of Bush's shit stirring campeghn adds

As i was saying, Bush's campeghn team is fucking amazing, they can flat out lie and make up issues negative about John Kerry and get most of the american public to believe it
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Akaran_D wrote:Post them 'ere then.
I've better thigns to do than visit his website.. seriously..
yeah obviously you have a very busy life. you have time to play Everquest and troll this message board...but yeah it is going to be tough to type in http://www.johnkerry.com and surf that for 5 minutes.

allow me to divine your deeper motives - you have no interest in any candidates' stand on the issues. you make electoral decision's based on who you would rather by sodomized by.
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Voronwë wrote:allow me to divine your deeper motives
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I've practiced them well. I fitted them myself
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Akaran_D wrote:Post them 'ere then.

I've better thigns to do than visit his website.. seriously..
Then don't fucking whine about him not taking a stand when it is clearly not true. "Waaah waaah take a stand! But I wont go outside of Fox News to read about them!"
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yeah obviously you have a very busy life. you have time to play Everquest and troll this message board...but yeah it is going to be tough to type in http://www.johnkerry.com and surf that for 5 minutes.
Retired from EQ. Thanks.
Then don't fucking whine about him not taking a stand when it is clearly not true. "Waaah waaah take a stand! But I wont go outside of Fox News to read about them!"
I've heard nothing good about the man that makes me want to go contribute a stastic to his website. I haven't read of him making a single stance on anything from CNN - and no, I don't listen to Fox news. I read the articles written about him. I see his ads on TV. I have heard that he supports abortion, which is enough to make me vote against him.

Aside from that, I've never once actually seen a stance on any issue that isn't as generic as "The economy is bad, peopel are losing jobs, and Bush is bad."

Educate me.

edit to further clarify: I have no intention of voting for him. I don't want to vote for Bush, either. I don't care what Kerry did in nam, or korea, or whatever he's accused of doing. I don't care about Bush's military records. It is unfortunate to say, while I do not support the Bush administration, I beleive I have more in common with his beliefs and views and stances on the issues that matter most to me than what i have heard of Kerry.
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I have heard that he supports abortion, which is enough to make me vote against him.
Why, did your mother tell you that she wished she had an abortion or something?

Edit: You missed the point completely. You come across as a complete asstard when you claim "He doesn't take a stand!" yet you haven't bothered to lift one finger to check if he has or not. You're just buying into the BS that is spewed by the reps here.
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Kel, I buy into the BS of the republicans no more than I buy into the BS of the liberals.

You're right, I haven't looked into this canidate. I only gave a glancing look at Gore. I haven't 'picked a side' to vote for, to support, or whatever. I simply don't care that much about this election when the statements I have read attributed to both parties makes me ashamed to be a part of this political system (ie: a voter).

When we get two people worth a damn running against each other, I'll gladly research both of them. In this cas,e can you honestly tell me that one is that much better than the other and back it up with statements affirming your belief?
Why, did your mother tell you that she wished she had an abortion or something?
Nope. And in an effort to keep from completely derailing this thread, I won't go into them here.
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Akaran, so you vote on 1 issue. I understand that. I don't agree with that, but that's irrelevant.

Does it bother you that the Republicans have put no legislation forth in the past 4 years to ban abortion, when they have controlled the House, the Senate, and the White House?

partial birth abortion was banned, but that really isnt a real problem. It is only done in extreme circumstances where the mother is very likely to die. and even still it is a miniscule fraction of the number of abortions practiced.

Do you expect the President to put a bill before Congress prohibiting abortion either through Amendment to the Constitution or otherwise? Why do you think this has not happened so far from the supposed "pro-life" president?
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Does it bother you that the Republicans have put no legislation forth in the past 4 years to ban abortion, when they have controlled the House, the Senate, and the White House?
Yes, it bothers me, and should a democrat come along that would, I'd vote for him - assuming he didn't completely go against everything else i stand for (same deal as if it was a republican).

I don't expect this admin to further attempt to do anything in regards to abortion. I do blame Clinton for signing in the partial birth, and I wouldn't put it past Kerry to revoke that ban if he was put in place, so I'll take what I can get with this admin and be happy with it. /shrug
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he's never heard anything good about him, and he won't even click a link to go to his website because he's "too busy" yet he makes weak ass snide comments about how kerry doesn't have any real stance on the issues.

what a fucking retard. it amazes me you can even operate a computer.
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Because we all know how anxious we are as a people to go look up something that we don't care about..
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John Kerry's plan for Homeland Security
The most basic responsibility of a president is defending our homeland.

We've seen some progress in making America more secure since September 11 - but there is still much more to be done. Today our government is not doing enough to make us safe. Our intelligence services remain fragmented and lack coordination. Our borders and ports are full of holes. Our chemical plants are vulnerable to attack. And across America, police officers, firefighters, and other first responders still lack the information, gear, and equipment to do their jobs safely and successfully.

America needs a new strategy for homeland security that takes steps as big as the threats we face. John Kerry and John Edwards have that strategy. They will do whatever it takes to make America safe - coordinate our intelligence agencies, take action on all key fronts, stand up for security whenever special interests stand in the way, and get the needed resources to the first responders who defend America every day.

John Kerry and John Edwards will offer a new security strategy that addresses five major challenges:

Track And Stop Terrorists
Many of the intelligence problems that allowed terrorists to slip into our country before 9/11 have not been addressed. John Kerry and John Edwards will improve our ability to gather, analyze, and share information so we can track down and stop terrorists before they cause harm.

Protect Our Borders And Shores
Today, our borders, our ports, and our airports are not as secure as they must be. John Kerry and John Edwards will make our airports, seaports, and borders more secure without intruding upon personal liberties.

Harden Vulnerable Targets
Chemical industry lobbying has kept the Bush administration from strengthening security at chemical plants, where an attack could endanger 1 million Americans. John Kerry and John Edwards will always put Americans' safety ahead of big business interests and take strong measures to harden likely targets-including nuclear plants, trains, and subways-against possible attack.

Improve Domestic Readiness
Our first defenders will respond to any attack with courage and heroism-but they also need the equipment and manpower to do the job. John Kerry and John Edwards will back up their words with resources and ensure that America's first responders have everything they need to protect their communities.

Guard Liberty.
We must always remember that terrorists do not just target our lives - they target our way of life. John Kerry and John Edwards believe in an America that is safe and free, and they will protect our personal liberties as well as our personal security.
He also has a 5 page pdf about bio security. http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/bioterror.pdf

I also fail to see how people think of John Kerry as a schmuck.
He went to Vietnam
He became a prosecuter
He helped setup one of the first rape counseling programs for women.
He became a senator
He is the reason we know what acid rain is
etc. etc. etc.
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Akaran_D wrote:Because we all know how anxious we are as a people to go look up something that we don't care about..
if you don't care about what his issues are even enough to get a tacit awareness of what he stands for, then what qualifies you to make snide remarks about his platforms? oh right; you're an idiot that bases his political beliefs on what people tell you to base them on.
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Thess:
How do they plan on doing any / all of the above things?

That is an honest question, not a flame or a form of troll bait.



Kyu: What qualifies me? I'm a voter - regardless of your opinion of that fact.
Better question is, what qualifies you to make comments on any member of the amercan political system, who to vote for, and how bad either side is doing since you are not directly or even indirectly involved in our political process?
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All of that is in the book him and John Edwards put out.

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/our_plan_for_america.pdf

Chapter one has security.
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Thank you.
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Akaran_D wrote:Better question is, what qualifies you to make comments on any member of the amercan political system, who to vote for, and how bad either side is doing since you are not directly or even indirectly involved in our political process?
I would say that there is near no one on the planet without at least an indirect involvement in our political process. Who we elect affects our global political and diplomatic activities. Most UN and NATO member Nations are relatively directly affected by our political processes. The citizens of those countries are and of rights ought to be intrested in our political processes.
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Haha ok how many times have we heard, "Yea you moron thats something from the Bush Cheney Sight." or WTF thats all propaganda. Ok so now its ok to look at Kerry's site and its honerble and true. But Bush sight is the devil even though we dont believe in heaven or hell.


Look Ill summarize it up for you taken partially from there own words from there website:

On national securtity-
John Kerry and John Edwards believe in a better, stronger America
....VS.....Bush wants a worse, weaker America.

Today, we face three great challenges above all others - First, to win the global war against terror; Second, to stop the spread of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons; Third, to promote democracy, freedom, and opportunity around the world, starting by winning the peace in Iraq.
Bush wants to loose the global war on terror, he wants the spread of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons. Bush wants to destroy democracys and wants death and destruction in Iraq, so he can line Cheneys pockets and Haliburton !!!

The threat of terrorism demands alliances on a global scale
So hes gonna get France and Germany involved...yea how?? Bust doesnt believe in allies!!!! Yehaww!!

John Kerry and John Edwards have a plan to transform the world's most powerful military to better address the modern threats of terrorism and proliferation, while ensuring that we have enough properly trained and equipped troops to meet our enduring strategic and regional missions.
Ok you have a plan....WTF is it then???? General statement...WE GOT A PLAN!!! Yea equipt like you voting against that 87bil would of equipt them. We would have to wait for a couple years for you to pass anything through. Most of that would be him argueing with himself.
His plan on transforming the US military??? Look at his whole pass and how many of his votes would of weakin the active military. Was against almost everything pro military. I really liked how Bush used military to close down the underground nuclear black market!

The war on terror cannot be won by military might alone. As president, John Kerry will deploy all the forces in America's arsenal - our diplomacy, our intelligence system, our economic power, and the appeal of our values and ideas - to make America more secure and prevent a new generation of terrorists from emerging.
Vs. Bush only believe using military to kill children around the world!!!!! Look how he used Military to get Libya to give up there WMD program, Saudi to start trying to crack down and in Pakistan to get them on our side on the war on terror. And Kerry showed us how hell add errrr cut the intelligence agencys so they can be more effective on the war on terror!!!!!

To secure our full independence and freedom, we must free America from its dangerous dependence on Mideast oil. By tapping American ingenuity, we can achieve that goal while growing our economy and protecting our environment.

GREAT PLAN!!! Hell why could none of us morons think of that Mr. Elitist. Gee golly!! Who introduced 10 billion dollars to aid in the creation of Hydrogen cars? Could of it been Bush :shock:


This guy even on his own site is just a natural Senator....A WIND BAG and a EMPTY COAT. What freakin plan in his whole national securty section he really address.

Some absolute generalized statements that everyone is for..Golly Gee!...with no real plan...nothing really different then what Bush is working at anyways....Im still not sure on Iraq. Is he for Iraq, Against Iraq, For it before he was Against it, or Against it before he was for it??

Or Really I think it is more online of this:
For it before he was Against it then was Really Against it before he was then For it then he became Really For it before now hes Against it. And he really means it this time. What a freakin Joke. Get a real campaigner or canidate atleast someone who could like Clinton. This Kerry guy has no chance.
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Sirton you're getting boring. Come up with some new material for your neocon worshippers please?
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Sirton wrote:Haha ok how many times have we heard, "Yea you moron thats something from the Bush Cheney Sight." or WTF thats all propaganda. Ok so now its ok to look at Kerry's site and its honerble and true. But Bush sight is the devil even though we dont believe in heaven or hell.
Yes because there is no difference at all between linking Kerry's site when someone asks what Kerry's platforms are and linking George Bush's site for hot news tipz on how the war on Iraq or the economy is going. No difference at all.
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Then how come someone ever links Bush's site then its blasted as what do you exspect them to say...Well I call the same.

Kerry's Plan for America:
John Kerry and John Edwards believe in a better, stronger America.

Wow thanks...I hope in hell they do....Gee Golly! Thx for sharing that great Plan Im switchin to Kerry.
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Sirton, read the fucking thread, you dunderhead.

Here's a brief synopsis:

Akaran : Kerry doesn't stand for anything.

Everyone else : Look at his website of you want to see his stance on things.

Akaran : No, I can't be bothered to go to his website. I'd rather just ignorantly criticize him.
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Like Kyu said, Sirton, Akaran asked for Kerry's stances on the issues. If we asked for Bush's stance, we'd go to Bush's site. If we want to hear HOW Bush is doing and what is happening around the world, we go to a news site. Understand? Bush and Kerry both try to make their views look favorable to their demographic; I go to the news to learn what is happening around the world. I wouldn't link an article from Kerry's site about how Bush is fucking up education, or environment; that's going to be biased. I also wouldn't link Bush to tell me how Kerry is going to fuck up education, or the environment. I would link a news site, because they are decidedly more unbiased than either side's agenda.
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Miir Im just being a ass...I see part of the thread on his plans. I goto his site and read generalized crap, so I make fun of it. And I can't count how many times Bush's site has been posted for similar reasons and its been made fun of or blasted. Anyways it gave me a good laugh. :D

And Kal. Golly Gee!! I know and agree with you...you stated my whole underlining point in my post.
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show me one single fucking thread on this forum where someone is blasted for linking to bush's site when the topic is what kind of platforms bush is trying to get elected with. one. show me fucking one or for the love of all that is holy and good in this world, would you please shut that miserable gaping cum-hole underneath your nose?
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Hahaha.

Glad to get your attention Kooky.

There isnt one on this thread.....did I claim that? I have a right to be a ass just like you Kooky. And Ive seen Bush sites brought up and blasted from peeps as yourself on other threads, so Im gonna do it aswell.

Lets stick to the issues and stop trying to smoke screen it....lol.

John Kerry is for a stronger safer America!!! Thats about all I got from his site LOL. WOW!!! Im votin for Kerry!!! Hes got all da plans!!!!
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Sirton wrote:Hahaha.

Glad to get your attention Kooky.

There isnt one on this thread.....did I claim that?
hey at least you read as well as you write.
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Thanks for your harshness, Miir, but I actually just went over his stances and his plans after so much pressure here to do so.

I've got a few questions..

How does he plan on paying for these changes?
How does he plan on creating jobs in rural areas?
What is his stance on gay rights and marriage?
What is his stance on abortion?
What does he plan to do - exactly - in terms of pulling out our troops from the mid east while at the same time reparing the damage done by the current administration?
How does he plan on providing the extra funding to the no child left behind act?
How does he plan on adding additional controlls to enforce the NCLB Act?
How does he plan on creating stronger prison systems in rural areas?
What will he do in regards to rising perscription drug costs?
How can his administration ensure the hiring of additional healthcare and emergency service providers when those are primarily hirings done on the state and local level using state and local funds?
How will they improve K-12 math and science programs across the coutnry, when again, this is something that is handled more on a county to county basis in this country?
How does he plan to end our dependence on middle east oil when it's our primary source - unless he either a: plans on circumventing the patents that BigOil has on alternate energy sources and allowing other companies to develop them (or forcing BigOil to develop them directly) or b: initiates drilling within protected reserves on US soil (which would then thrwart his stance on the enviornment)?
How does he plan on cutting the deficit in half in four years?


Answer away.. someone..
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How was I being harsh?

You are ignorant of Kerrys stance on issues and it really seems like you can't be arsed to find out the information for yourself.

You are voting for Bush based on your ignorance of Kerry.
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Followup.. Arb:
Safe to assume then that whenever any new prime minister, president, high priest, whatever, takes the job of that country's leadership position, that everyone in the world is entitled to talk about those people, make judgments on them, point out why they shouldn't be in power, and or attempt to influence the voters of that country...

But isn't that illegal in Canada to influence the politics of that nation if you are an outsider? Wouldn't the people in Egypt throw a fit if the French started lambasting their canidates?

Just a thought.
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Miir, I just went OVER his stances - or what was posted on his site.
Economy bad, I can make it better.
War bad, I can make it better.
Education bad, I can make it better.

I'm sorry, but look - all I'm seeing are campaign promises with nothing that says how and that he 'has a plan'. Or answers any kind of the questions I just asked.

I'm not voting for Bush out of my ignorance of Kerry. I'm voting for Bush because between what he's done and what Kerry has said he'd do, I have more in common with Bush's actions than Kerry's words. If Kerry comes out and announces somthing concrete that convinces me that yes, he is the better man, then yes, I'll vote for him. It's that simple.


ps: check your PMs.
ps2: And if you can't 'find out' what someone's issues are without asking about them without being labeled as someone that can't be arsed to look for themselves.. that's sad. Questions are the root of finding out.
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