New Questions Raised on Bush Military Record

[Tenuvil]

Unlike him illegally taking office?

Oh my fucking Christ go back to your Civics class or brush up on your American election law. Because of the electoral system used to elect Presidents in the US, it is possible for a candidate to have a popular majority yet lose based on electoral votes. As we all know this happened in 2000. It happened one other time in the 19th century if I recall.

Let me repeat this reaaallly slow for you. IT WASN'T ILLEGAL. The process followed the law to the letter. Sorry if you don't like the outcome.

PS: I think Bush is a fundie tool that can't tie his shoes without help and I blame the Dems for putting Bush into office in 2000 by running the damaged android called Gor(e) against him.

Actually you are wrong. The united states supreme court declared who our president was - going around florida state law and stopping the recount.

*sigh* whatever, go ahead and play fucking games with semantics. The court decided the admissibility of certain blocks of votes and the whole fucking "hanging chad" thing, the court did not declare a President. The vote was still determined by the electoral process.

And since when does state law supersede federal law?

[Metanis]

Actually you are wrong. The united states supreme court declared who our president was - going around florida state law and stopping the recount.

Several news agencies took it upon themselves to proceed with the recount. Of course it was meaningless in the sense that it wouldn't change the outcome, however these recounts found that GW Bush would have won the state under ALMOST ANY reasonable recount methodology.

This has been covered on these boards repeatedly. The fact that you and others keep trying to claim Bush stole the election in 2000 is evidence to me that you are truly ignorant crybabies. Some of these recounts took nearly a year to complete... was the USA supposed to sit around and wait a year for a president? The election was decided by using the Constitution and the duly authorized institutions and representatives appointed under it's rules. It don't get no better than that.

But truly I enjoy all you people living in your alternate reality. You all keep fighting your battles of the past. Meanwhile, here in 2004, we'll make sure Bush gets re-elected.

PS. One last little note, my recollection of events is that the Florida State Supreme Court was the first to violate existing law, when they artificially extended deadlines for vote certification. So don't get all high and mighty claiming the US Supreme Court side-stepped the law... they were following good precedent don't you think?

[Thess]

I never claimed anything with my post, I just posted a correction to someone elses post.

[Metanis]

I never claimed anything with my post, I just posted a correction to someone elses post.

Bullshit.

First of all you claimed I was wrong when I stated "every single recount gave Bush the win". That was a truthful statement. You can't correct what is documented true.

Secondly, you are making a claim when you use the phrase " supreme court declared who our president was - going around florida state law". You are claiming the US Supreme Court did something "wrong" or "improper".

Backpedal some more Thess.

[Thess]

I wasn't even replying or quoting you with my original post.

I know the felons list in florida caused a lot of problems - not allowing people to vote who had the same name as a criminal etc. - do I know how it would have turned out if these people were allowed to vote? Nope.

[Metanis]

I wasn't even replying or quoting you with my original post.

I know the felons list in florida caused a lot of problems - not allowing people to vote who had the same name as a criminal etc. - do I know how it would have turned out if these people were allowed to vote? Nope.

LOL. The Felons List? Give me a break.

What about all the young Democratic Party volunteers who "helped" the senior citizen's vote? You know the ones... those seniors who thought they were voting Dewey or Truman. Hahahaha.

What about all the overseas military ballots thrown out for some piddly ass reason?

What about news organizations calling the State of Florida a Gore win even before polls closed in the panhandle area?

What about polling places in heavily Democratic areas staying open illegally late?

Guess what Thess... even with Democrats pulling every dirty trick they could find... Bush won Florida and Bush won the presidency.

Gore won the popular vote. If some of those voters in New York or California had moved to Florida then he would be President today. In a truly democratic country Gore would be the president right now. But we are a representative democracy. The system of checks and balances created an anomaly. Oh well, lifes a bitch... and then you marry one.

[Thess]

Exactly my point - had everything gone organized instead of a huge mess, I have no idea how things would have turned out.

I am fortunate to live in a state (Nevada) which is a current model for how smoothly elections can run.

I wasn't giving an opinion in my original post. I don't know how things would have gone, I wasn't discrediting the poster for saying that the election wasn't stolen.