ignorant motherfuckers

[Tenuvil]

Why is it that people who wouldn't cut the line at a movie theater or at the grocery store checkout have no problem with cutting into the line at a highway offramp?

Don't know about where you folks live but people's driving manners in Houston are fucking atrocious.

[Lynks]

That happens everywhere.

[Cartalas]

Bad Drive to work?

[Tenuvil]

the fucking worst.

[Kwonryu DragonFist]

http://www.zcar.com/forums/read.php?f=4 ... 3&t=164433

[Menelaos]

Heh, if you think Houston is bad, then you'd abhorr New York City drivers. Very aggresive drivers here in the city, and it's an accepted fact of life for New Yorkers to be cutoff a few times everytime you drive here. It's just normal; people expect it and rarely complain anymore, unless you just got cutoff by some lame New Jersey driver.

[Rivera Bladestrike]

Lame jersey drivers? Whenever you clowns come into our state its ridiculous, slow as hell on the highways, when you're on our turf its always "lame New York drivers", but on the other hand any NJer knows you don't drive into the city, its just dumb.

But then again, so many jersey drivers are just people who get insurance in NY due to a relative and get the lower insurance rate so they get NY plates... whoever they are... they're bad...

[Tenuvil]

Heh, if you think Houston is bad, then you'd abhorr New York City drivers. Very aggresive drivers here in the city, and it's an accepted fact of life for New Yorkers to be cutoff a few times everytime you drive here. It's just normal; people expect it and rarely complain anymore, unless you just got cutoff by some lame New Jersey driver.

I used to live in Connecticut and had to travel into NYC and Boston at least weekly for business. I would NEVER consider driving in Manhattan, it's easier by far to drive to New Haven and take Metro-North into the city then take cabs or subways to your destination. Boston always pissed me off because while it was somewhat more car friendly, traffic on I-90 and in the city was always challenging and the Big Dig (tm) always made life interesting driving around there.

I have driven in the toughest traffic areas in the country (Boston, NYC, LA, Chicago) and to me Houston traffic is infinitely worse than anything I've ever encountered. It's that unique mix of aggression and cluelessness in the drivers here that you just don't see anywhere else.

[Bren]

That happens all over Portland....Mostly soccer moms in their SUV's chatting on their cellphones. Sad.

[Kelshara]

I certainly don't miss Texas drivers, that is for sure..

[Skogen]

Why is it that people who wouldn't cut the line at a movie theater or at the grocery store checkout have no problem with cutting into the line at a highway offramp?

Don't know about where you folks live but people's driving manners in Houston are fucking atrocious.

Here in LA, people are just fucking STUPID. The myriads of lame ass things people pull while driving astounds me. My personal pet peeve is the fuckball doing 65 in the fast lane, and wont move over.

[Funkmasterr]

Here in Minnesota traffic is terrible too. The problem we have is that when most of our major highways were built, they were not thinking into the future, and made them too small. Now on top of that the population and amount of drivers has increased a lot more than expected too.

On top of that though is shitty drivers, the main problem I see is merging. Either people won't let anyone in thats merging on, or they let like 10 people in. Also people need to learn to floor it, because by the time you hit the end of that ramp you need to be going the speed traffic is moving at.

These all seem like pretty basic concepts to me, but I guess not. Of my many experiences, I once had someone determined to not let me merge in when a two lane road narrowed to one lane. I had the right away, I was not cutting him off, but he slammed on the gas and basically ran me towards the ditch. It just so happened that a couple of little girls were biking on the shoulder of the road and had I not slammed on my breaks and came to a stop I would have either went into a 25 foot drop ditch, or hit him, or the girls. I have a bit of a problem with my temper and follower the guy home. But that is an example of great minnesota driving.

[Lynks]

I once had someone determined to not let me merge in when a two lane road narrowed to one lane.

I can't stand people who wait until the last minute to merge. Why don't those people merge as soon as they notice it and when they first have the opportunity.

[Funkmasterr]

well, in my situation, it was his lane that ended. But he sped up all the same, and the situation occured. And this was at like 1am too, so it wasnt like he was trying to rush ahead of a line of traffic.

[Lynks]

Im confused, you just said he wouldn't let you merge in but now you say it was his lane that ended. Why would you merge into a closing lane?

[Winnow]

There are ways to help handle people that don't know how to merge. I usually pull way over to the right so they can't get by me and force them to merge in behind like they're supposed to. The rest of the line usually gets the idea and the line of cars looks like this:
O
O
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--O
O---X
O

X being the car trying to sneak by on the outside of the merge. You're not getting by me you bastards!

When I need to merge myself, I just pick out a car and keep the nose of my car slightly ahead of theirs and ease over to the left. Eventually they have to back off or it will be their fault if we collide.

I can't stand people who don't know how to merge. It backs up traffic needlessly.

[Funkmasterr]

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I was in the right lane, and the one lane that the road ends up narrowing too is kind of smack in the middle of the two lanes before, but the road curves off to the right after it narrows. So really, he should have been getting behind me.

On the other hand, if I am coming up to a place I need to merge, I will generally merge in the first chance I get. That is unless there are some of you assholes that drive less than or equal to the speed limit. I drive anywhere between 15 and 50 miles over the speed limit at all times, and if there is someone driving slow who has a big empty section of road ahead of them , im going to pass them up.

Basically, the way I look at it is, if I (or anyone else) am/is coming up on your ass on the road - get the fuck out of the way, I dont care if you have to get on the shoulder to do so. especially when you can see 4 or 5 cars or more coming up on you and end up passing you in the right lane. Those people should be executed.


edit* I can't get the picture to line up like it should, but by what I said you should understand.

[Brotha]

Yes, the drivers here in Houston are terrible. Were you going down 45 or what?

The most annoying thing to me is when a truck with a trailer attached to it is in the far left lane, going 50 MPH- they should get pulled over for that shit.

Funny piece on Houston drivers:

http://www.mindspring.com/~tbgray/drivers.htm

It's official - Houston drivers suck!

In its Sunday, April 18, 2004 edition, the Houston Chronicle reported that the Houston area exceeds the national average in the number of serious crashes and traffic fatalities. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Houston had 12.45 fatalities per 100,000 population in 2002 – far higher than the fatality rates for Philadelphia (8.11), Chicago (7.90), Los Angeles (7.24) or New York (4.39). In fact, Houston-area drivers are two and a half more times likely to be killed or injured in a traffic accident than the national average.

Motorist carelessness costs Houston drivers dearly, as they pay higher auto insurance premiums than anywhere else in the state of Texas. That includes the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex, which had 11% fewer crashes than the Houston area in 1999 despite having 12% larger population.

Any way you look at it, Houston’s drivers are collectively among the nation’s worst. And nowhere is this fact any more evident than along the city’s new 7.5-mile light rail line. As of August 24, 2004, there have been 53 collisions between cars and trains since the rail began testing along the corridor in November of 2003 (an additional three accidents involved pedestrians). This translates into a collision rate that is about 25 times the national average for light rail systems, according to the Federal Transit Administration. While several other cities, such as San Jose, Portland, Boston, New Orleans, Denver and Salt Lake City, all have street-running light rail and streetcar systems, drivers in those cities for the most part seem to be able to avoid crashing into their trains. Unfortunately, that’s not the case in Houston. The propensity of local drivers to smack into the the new train has even become national news.

Houston’s sizeable contingent of METRO haters have jumped on this fact, claiming that the high accident rates prove that METRO’s light rail system is fundamentally unsafe and is therefore a failure. Local rail foes meticulously chronicle the train’s accident record, and even the monorail enthusiasts are getting their licks in, claiming that Houston would have been better off if former Mayor Bob Lanier hadn’t killed the monorail that had been proposed for this corridor 15 years ago.

Of course, all but one of the collisions that have occurred so far have been the fault of drivers and in almost every accident the driver has been ticketed for a traffic infraction such as making an illegal left turn or running a red light. The Chronicle also reported on April 18 that the Main Street corridor, along which the light rail line travels, was a dangerous place to drive even before the rail line was installed, with an average of 7.3 automobile collisions per day between 1998 and 2000. In the Texas Medical Center alone, the crash rate per vehicle miles traveled was 58% higher than the Houston regional average.

Furthermore, the Texas Transportation Institute (TTI), which was recently hired by METRO to assess safety along the METRORail corridor, found no fundamental design flaws in the rail system itself that would contribute to the high rate of car-train collisions.

However, these facts are generally ignored by local rail critics. METRO built the train down Main Street, they argue, so therefore METRO, not the city’s careless drivers, is to blame.

Of course, it bears noting that even if collisions involving METRORail weren’t an issue, the rail critics would invariably find something else to complain about. There are a lot of people around Houston who hate public transportation in general and rail transit in particular and who therefore think that METRO is a big waste of taxpayer money (and, if the letters to the editor in the Chronicle are any indication, a lot of these people happen to live in communities outside METRO’s service area, such as Kemah and Friendswood, but that’s a different subject). These critics, who are still sulking from their defeat at the polls last November as Houston-area voters narrowly approved the METRO Solutions rail expansion program in spite of a huge anti-rail campaign, will always complain about rail and will never admit that it has any benefits whatsoever. Many of these folks even want a re-vote of last November’s referendum. Even if they aren’t METRO’s fault, the high number of accidents along the rail line just gives opponents more ammunition for their never-ending anti-rail, anti-METRO crusade.

Unfortunately, the high accident rate along the rail line is a problem to which there is no easy solution. METRO has already implemented additional safety measures prescribed by the TTI report, such as traffic signal adjustments, signage modifications and pavement markings, but the accidents persist as drivers continue to run red lights and ignore the “no turn” signs. The TTI report goes on to say that even in spite of these adjustments, “there will likely still be a large number of collisions in the area due to unfamiliar drivers and high traffic volumes.”

What will it take for Houston drivers to smarten up and put an end to what one pro-rail website calls a “motor vehicle Destruction Derby?" Better traffic enforcement would be a good start, but it’s not likely to happen anytime soon. As any long-time Houston driver knows, the enforcement of traffic laws is very lax. Freeway speed limits are uniformly ignored, motorists frequently block downtown intersections during rush hour, turn signals are seldom used or regarded, slow drivers rarely move to the right to let faster traffic pass, and drivers run red lights with impunity. Rare is the driver that yields, doesn’t tailgate or doesn’t chat on their cell phone while driving in heavy traffic. God help you if you are a bicyclist or a pedestrian in Houston, and if you do end up in an accident odds are pretty high that the other driver won’t have car insurance. The Chronicle reports that the Houston Police Department’s Traffic Enforcement Unit has only 40 motorcycle officers, compared with more than 400 in Los Angeles. The Houston Police Department has limited resources, given the city’s current budget deficit of $150 million, and has understandably chosen to make crimes-in-progress responses and neighborhood patrols a priority over traffic enforcement. There is no money at this time to hire additional officers.

There are other factors that contribute to Houston’s high accident rate. The region is growing at a rate faster than its road network can adequately handle; road construction simply cannot keep up with demand. This creates more congestion and dangerous driving conditions as area roads are carrying traffic volumes they were never designed to carry. Houston is also a very international city, with scores of foreign drivers who might not be familiar with American driving customs. Unfortunately, many are illegal immigrants who drive around town with no license, no insurance and no training.

Better driver training, in fact, would help everyone. Driver education is not taken nearly as seriously in Texas as it is in other countries or even other states. Typically, almost all the training drivers receive is when they are still in high school; supplemental training programs such as defensive driving courses have been relegated to comedy clubs and online courses and are used almost exclusively by traffic offenders who wish to avoid paying a ticket. And there’s no training whatsoever when it comes to light rail. It’s not a part of statewide driver education curriculum and isn’t even mentioned in the Department of Public Safety’s driver handbook. Understandably, some motorists experience confusion when they come upon the light rail, simply because they’ve never been around it before.

But even if the city’s financial situation does improve and enforcement of traffic laws does become a higher priority, and even if funds were somehow available to build larger and safer roads anywhere and everywhere they are needed, and even if more emphasis was placed on driver education, there is still the peculiar driver culture of Houston that must be confronted before things can improve. Sprawling, low-density Houston, where oil is cheap and land is plentiful, is a city built for the car. As Joel Garreau, author of Edge City and The Nine Nations of North America, once wrote, “going to Houston and not renting a car is like going to Venice and not renting a boat.” Travel distances are far, people are always in a hurry and owning a car is in most cases a necessity. Within this landscape, a culture has arisen wherein the automobile – and by extension the automobile driver – reigns supreme. As such, there clearly exists a sense of selfishness, arrogance and invulnerability on the part of many Houston drivers. Anything that impedes the progress of these drivers – be it traffic laws, pedestrians, bicycles or other drivers – is looked upon as an annoyance and is oftentimes disregarded. This mindset, which is reinforced by lax traffic enforcement, invariably leads to a high number of accidents and fatalities as drivers begin to feel that they can get away with their poor and selfish driving habits. This mindset also at least partly explains why so many of the collisions between cars and trains have been a result of motorists who blatantly disregard traffic signals and signs that clearly say NO LEFT TURN.

While it would certainly have been preferable to completely eliminate the friction between the train and Houston’s abysmal drivers by grade-separating the railway, there were physical and financial barriers which prevented that from occurring. Elevated rail generally costs twice as much to construct as street-running trains (monorail costs even more, as the Las Vegas project has shown), has significant aesthetic impacts, and would have been impossible to implement through some areas such as the Texas Medical Center in any case because of existing pedestrian bridges. A subway alternative costs four or five times as much to construct as street-running rail and, as Tropical Storm Alison showed, could be prone to flooding during heavy rains. Given METRO’s financial constraints (remember that Rep. Tom DeLay, pro-highway, anti-rail congressman from the suburbs, prevented METRO from receiving any federal funding to build the line), grade separation simply wasn’t an option. The experience of the Main Street line, however, is causing METRO to seriously consider grade-separated alignments for the system's extensions, including a subway through downtown.

The bottom line: if METRO did one thing wrong during the installation of the light rail system, it was to seriously underestimate the stupidity of the average Houston driver. I can only hope that there is indeed a learning curve associated with driver behavior around street-running light rail, and that the number of accidents begins to taper off before anybody gets killed.

[Skogen]

Yes, the drivers here in Houston are terrible. Were you going down 45 or what?

The most annoying thing to me is when a truck with a trailer attached to it is in the far left lane, going 50 MPH- they should get pulled over for that shit.

Oh man that would really piss me off to no end....luckily they could get a ticket for that here in cali...if a big rig leaves the rightmost 2 lanes of a freeway, they can get busted.

[Tenuvil]

Yes, the drivers here in Houston are terrible. Were you going down 45 or what?

Actually I was on the Hardy Toll Road south, taking the 610 West offramp. It's a lovely merge there, and once you get past the backlog of cars merging onto 610 you have 1/4 mile to get five lanes over to the left to take the 45 south offramp to get to downtown.

[Tenuvil]

Yes, the drivers here in Houston are terrible. Were you going down 45 or what?

The most annoying thing to me is when a truck with a trailer attached to it is in the far left lane, going 50 MPH- they should get pulled over for that shit.

Oh man that would really piss me off to no end....luckily they could get a ticket for that here in cali...if a big rig leaves the rightmost 2 lanes of a freeway, they can get busted.

No I think Brotha was not referring to tractor-trailer rigs but rather to the ubiquitous "junk trucks" with the bed filled with Mexicans and hauling a fucking ramshackle trailer loaded with debris and tools, usually seen going 50 in the fast lane.

[Funkmasterr]

I have always maintained that it should be a federal law that anything above a pick up truck should not be allowed in the leftmost lane/s.

[*~*stragi*~*]

yeah shutup whiners.. you don't have to run the risk of getting rear ended by a van full of illegal mexicans with no insurance and ending up having to pay for their medical bills

[*~*stragi*~*]

except maybe in texas

[Marbus]

Winnow, I do the exact same thing! Those bastages are getting by me!

Marb

[Hoarmurath]

rear ended by a van full of illegal mexicans

This actually happened to a friend of mine here in San Antonio. Plus it was a rental van.

On another note, Houston drivers suck. They don't even stay on the road!! I mean, in Houston, even the medians and shoulders are on/off ramps!!1! Everytime my wife see a really shitty driver anywhere, the first thing she says is "They must be from Houston."

Personally, I was raised to be a shitty Texas driver myself, but I believe that I was saved by living six years out of state during my first years of driving.

Edit: BTW, I am aware that not all Texas drivers are idiots, but I certainly feel like we have more than our fair share.

[Ransure]

You all havent seen bad drivers until youve been to DC... Ive driven in Manhattan, Boston and just about anywhere on the east coast... The thing with DC drivers is when it snows/rains all of the soccer moms in thier SUV's think that 4 wheel drive means you dont have to be carefull...

2" of snow = 100's of SUV's upsidedown...

[Bren]

yeah shutup whiners.. you don't have to run the risk of getting rear ended by a van full of illegal mexicans with no insurance and ending up having to pay for their medical bills

That happens here. Its in a town called Hillborro. Or as we've dubbed it "Hillsburrito".

[Menelaos]

Grr I hate drivers like Winnow! Why must you force someone to slow down to let you in? You should be speeding up to get in FRONT of him/her, or slowing down to get behind. You don't have to cut someone off to merge into their lane If I see you on the road somewhere Winnow and you do that to me, there's no way in hell I'm going to slow down to let you in. Either you speed up ahead of me or slow down behind me, or there will be an accident!

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

Either you speed up ahead of me or slow down behind me, or there will be an accident!

You mean like the ones that spawned Midnyte and Xzion?

[Winnow]

Grr I hate drivers like Winnow! Why must you force someone to slow down to let you in? You should be speeding up to get in FRONT of him/her, or slowing down to get behind. You don't have to cut someone off to merge into their lane If I see you on the road somewhere Winnow and you do that to me, there's no way in hell I'm going to slow down to let you in. Either you speed up ahead of me or slow down behind me, or there will be an accident!

When merging onto a freeway that is already bumper to bumper, you must pick a spot to merge. Me pulling ahead until the very last spot in the road where i'll have to come to a complete stop for someome to let me in causes even more delay.

In the other scenario when I'm already merged and someone else is trying to fly at top speed to the end of the merge and then force their way in, I pull over to the right to cockblock because there's no fucking place to merge ahead of me..it's bumper to bumper when you could easily merge in behind me...you getting ahead of me means waiting traffic to come to a complete stop while someone lets you in instead of a steady flow if you would have merged when there were openings like you are supposed to.

[Lalanae]

Heh, if you think Houston is bad, then you'd abhorr New York City drivers. Very aggresive drivers here in the city, and it's an accepted fact of life for New Yorkers to be cutoff a few times everytime you drive here. It's just normal; people expect it and rarely complain anymore, unless you just got cutoff by some lame New Jersey driver.

I used to live in Connecticut and had to travel into NYC and Boston at least weekly for business. I would NEVER consider driving in Manhattan, it's easier by far to drive to New Haven and take Metro-North into the city then take cabs or subways to your destination. Boston always pissed me off because while it was somewhat more car friendly, traffic on I-90 and in the city was always challenging and the Big Dig (tm) always made life interesting driving around there.

I have driven in the toughest traffic areas in the country (Boston, NYC, LA, Chicago) and to me Houston traffic is infinitely worse than anything I've ever encountered. It's that unique mix of aggression and cluelessness in the drivers here that you just don't see anywhere else.

I live in Houston too and I've had several folks drive in to visit and comment on the horrible driving. I've lived here my whole life so I don't have much to compare it to, but the amount of road rage I encounter when I'm on the road is horrible.

85% of the time its a while guy between 30 and 45 in a HUGE truck, riding my ass. I slow down for pricks like that. They love to wave fists and mouth obscenities when they finally realize that there is a completley open lane TO THE LEFT and pass me. I never drive in the left lane anymore because no matter how fast I go, its not fast enough for somebody.

The young guys in sports car drive recklessly fast, but they rarely tailgate and they rarely throw tantrums.

There are people out there who deal with stress by acting out, and the easiest outlet is by being a dick to a bunch of nameless people on the road. Men are inherently more aggressive so they deal with stress in aggressive ways more often than women. Men in the 30-45 age group have more job/family stress to deal with.

But as to why its worse in Houston? I thinks it has something to do with southern machisimo. Guys here don't go to a shrink (like NY) or take yoga (like LA) when they are stressed. They beat on their wives, shoot at things, and cut people off on the highway.

[Sylvos]

I almost had road rage several times in Atlanta and then when we were in Los Angeles at 5pm on a Friday on the I-5...Rage was boiling was sad times.

[Tenuvil]

Lalanae, thanks for eloquently summing up what I deal with on a daily basis. Also, why is it that the enormous pickup trucks are almost always white? /boggle

I have confronted some of these turkeys face to face when they ended up at the same destination as I did. In all cases the person who's a macho dickhead on the highway is a confrontation averse coward when he's outside his vehicle and dealing with another person. I usually tell these people that "you probably shouldn't be making these aggressive moves and obscene gestures and yelling at other drivers, especially ones my size. The next person you do that to might decide to knock your head off rather than talking to you."

[Lynks]

When merging onto a freeway that is already bumper to bumper, you must pick a spot to merge. Me pulling ahead until the very last spot in the road where i'll have to come to a complete stop for someome to let me in causes even more delay.

In the other scenario when I'm already merged and someone else is trying to fly at top speed to the end of the merge and then force their way in, I pull over to the right to cockblock because there's no fucking place to merge ahead of me..it's bumper to bumper when you could easily merge in behind me...you getting ahead of me means waiting traffic to come to a complete stop while someone lets you in instead of a steady flow if you would have merged when there were openings like you are supposed to.

Ahh, I thought you meant you would cut people off no matter what. In that case, for freeway bumper-to-bumper traffic, its survival of the fittest and only the aggressive make it anywhere. As long as you don't do it to people everytime who try to get in because you want to be leader of the pack, its all good.

[Dups.]

Lynks is a bad driver. He got into an accident because he did not stop to see me working at a burger flipping job! He thought of it but then continued to drive straight and then KABLAMO!!!!!!

[Sionistic]

ok lets try this, what city has GOOD drivers?

[Lynks]

Lynks is a bad driver. He got into an accident because he did not stop to see me working at a burger flipping job! He thought of it but then continued to drive straight and then KABLAMO!!!!!!

This is true... Tell me, a truck nails me from behind and plows me into another truck and I get charged, is that justice?

[Canelek]

15 years in CA, 5 of which in LA... I actually find Portland drivers worse.... Not really as much cutting others off than being FUCKING TAILGATERS... DIE!!!!

[Drasta]

heh i found the further south i went the worse the drivers got ... also ... peopel don't cut in lines with people in them because they know the people will kick their ass

[Izna Marcos]

well i think everyone's defintion of a "bad" driver varies...but here in SF, the amount of cars/gridlock is the second worst in the nation at the moment, only second to LA area, btw.

Interesting site...gives you some ideas of what we all might be doing, while driving, that others get annoyed by.....

I'm horrid about putting on my turn signal..i'll open admit that, but i DO try and remember to.

http://www.drivers.com/article/381/

[Drasta]

heh people not using turn signals tick me off i always notice it

[Sargeras]

Los Angeles: 405/10 interchange, and the where the 405 ends at the 5... in fact.. the 405 fucking sucks period.

[Chidoro]

Seriously Winnow, I can't stand the people that do that exact thing. It's as if, who exactly makes that person running down the side of the road before everyone else God's gift exactly? If it's feasible to keep them from not merging given a more logical opportunity, I try to keep my car in the way as well.

As far as the further south thing goes, I'd say that Georgia seemed ok while Florida was horriffic. Just went on the I-95 road trip to West Palm Beach about a month ago and you can't help but notice hundreds upon hundreds of skid marks as soon as you cross into Florida. I mean, the first 30 miles into the state has them, literally on both sides of the road every 100 yards. So, either, the entire state is falling asleep at the wheel or people are dodging all of the old drivers.

Driving in north jersey isn't too bad, there's just too many fucking people to be able to drive at a dangerous pace or to drive erratically. Also, driving into Manhattan on weekend evenings isn't bad at all (just not worth it during the work week since trains run every 10-15 minutes). You really just have to be mindful of the cabs because they take their lives into their own hands every time they turn the key. Shit, the cabs in manhattan now have a bumper around the entire fucking car. It's like they totally gave up having any level of caution. In addition, driving crosstown can suck because there can be a car stopped dead in your lane while the person brings in their groceries or some such nonsense.

[Kelgar]

South Florida sucks ass. The worst motherfuckers are the bitches in hoopty mobiles and rice burners.

[Kelgar]

FYI, as shitty as the old drivers are, they're not nearly as annoying as the ones I previously mentioned. Incompetent drivers I can forgive. Deliberately reckless motherfuckers that tailgate and weave around fighting for a few car-lengths need to die painfully.

On the few occasions I see these fuckwads pulled over by a cop a few minutes after passing me, I make it a point to lower the window and cheer the officer for a job well done.

[Mukyluk]

Tenuvil, If your ins agent didnt tell you, Harris county has one of the highest accedent rates in ameria.. i drive from 1960 to the Woodlands everymorning and a day ahsnt gone by i ahvent seen soem retarded motherfucker exit the freeway from the far left lane at 80mph..

[Tenuvil]

Tenuvil, If your ins agent didnt tell you, Harris county has one of the highest accedent rates in ameria.. i drive from 1960 to the Woodlands everymorning and a day ahsnt gone by i ahvent seen soem retarded motherfucker exit the freeway from the far left lane at 80mph..

That stretch of 45 from 1960 to The Woodlands is extra special. You get lots of junk trucks with debris and Mexicans, people going 40 in the left lane and people passing them to the right going 100.

My attitude is, is isn't a matter of if I get in an accident on Houston highways, it's a matter of when. There are so many awful drivers it just seems a certainty.

[Lalanae]

My attitude is, is isn't a matter of if I get in an accident on Houston highways, it's a matter of when. There are so many awful drivers it just seems a certainty.

I know the feeling. People have given me shit for my cautious driving, but I'm determined not to get in an accident (although some times you can't avoid it). 15+ (cough) years driving in Houston and not one accident!

[Dregor Thule]

I've never understood the need for speed attitude. I drive cautiously as well, it's just stupid to do otherwise. It's not a matter of what you as a driver can handle even, it's what the other drivers can handle. And after seeing most of them, they can't handle near as much as they think they can.