Bush Bows out of a debate

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » September 8, 2004, 4:17 am

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5926845/

The officials said Bush's negotiating team plans to resist the middle debate, which was to be Oct. 8 in a town meeting format in the crucial state of Missouri.

The Bush-Cheney campaign announced that its debate negotiation team will be led by James A. Baker III, who was secretary of state under President George H.W. Bush. Baker headed the Bush campaign's Florida recount response in 2000 and is the current president's personal envoy on Iraqi debt resolution

He's worried about partisans posing as undecided, ummm that works both ways moron

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » September 8, 2004, 7:35 am

what did i say?

What a fucking coward, there is no other way to describe that man and his bullshit excuses, but i guess unfortunately they work on people like midnyte, winnow, metanis etc

Kluden · Post by **Kluden** » September 8, 2004, 9:46 am

If either candidate "bows out" of a debate, or sends someone in their place...they will lose my vote. So, if both candidates do it, I stay home.

Silvarel Mistmoon · September 8, 2004, 10:10 am

These debates are just pissing contests.

Kluden · Post by **Kluden** » September 8, 2004, 10:55 am

Aye, pissing contests where you can identify mindsets, and openly compare policies and procedures that the candidate "says" they are going to do.

That is of course until one of the two starts deflecting answers, and changing topics midstream....

But yes, they are supposed to be pissing contests. The best part is, as the viewer, you get to decide which piss stream went further. It is another way to defend your "educated vote" to those that disagree with your choice...or agree for that matter.

Deward · Post by **Deward** » September 8, 2004, 11:01 am

These debates are all bullshit. THe questions are alls cripted and known ahead of time. It is also another illegal campaign contribution that gives free airtime to the two major parties while excluding any and all third party representatives.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » September 8, 2004, 11:12 am

Deward wrote:These debates are all bullshit. THe questions are alls cripted and known ahead of time. It is also another illegal campaign contribution that gives free airtime to the two major parties while excluding any and all third party representatives.

Sadly the townhall style debate is the one that has an almost open format, it is always considered the one debate that you can not script, the debate he has backed out of is just that kind of debate

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » September 8, 2004, 12:03 pm

Kluden wrote:If either candidate "bows out" of a debate, or sends someone in their place...they will lose my vote. So, if both candidates do it, I stay home.

Did you vote for Clinton?

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » September 9, 2004, 3:45 pm

I find it hard to believe that anyone on either side of the spectrum is suprised by this. I mean last time out GW "won" the debate by looking like a whipped puppy and making people feel sorry for him about how bad he got his ass handed to him. This time out there are tons of new issues he has generated and an open forum debate (especially if Nader were allowed into the mix) would be feeding him to the wolves.

Toshira · Post by **Toshira** » September 9, 2004, 4:13 pm

What a fucking pussy. No idea how republicans can be convinced he will be the "stong" leader we so deperatly need

when he's too much of a chicken-shit to even debate.

Go back to your frat house, W.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » September 9, 2004, 4:25 pm

Toshira wrote:What a fucking pussy. No idea how republicans can be convinced he will be the "stong" leader we so deperatly need when he's too much of a chicken-shit to even debate.

Go back to your frat house, W.

waaah!

There will be two debates. Chill. Townhouse forums are lame.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » September 9, 2004, 4:38 pm

The debates should be open and completely unscripted. Scripted debates are a waste of time.

Kluden · Post by **Kluden** » September 9, 2004, 5:02 pm

Aruman wrote:
Kluden wrote:If either candidate "bows out" of a debate, or sends someone in their place...they will lose my vote. So, if both candidates do it, I stay home.
Did you vote for Clinton?

Nope. Voted third party.

Adelrune Argenti · Post by **Adelrune Argenti** » September 9, 2004, 5:51 pm

Kluden wrote:
Aruman wrote:
Kluden wrote:If either candidate "bows out" of a debate, or sends someone in their place...they will lose my vote. So, if both candidates do it, I stay home.
Did you vote for Clinton?

Nope. Voted third party.

You voted for Buchanan?

I'm sorry but third party voting is just throwing your vote away really.

Kguku · Post by **Kguku** » September 9, 2004, 6:09 pm

Adelrune Argenti wrote:
Kluden wrote:
Aruman wrote:
Kluden wrote:If either candidate "bows out" of a debate, or sends someone in their place...they will lose my vote. So, if both candidates do it, I stay home.
Did you vote for Clinton?

Nope. Voted third party.
You voted for Buchanan?

I'm sorry but third party voting is just throwing your vote away really.

Fuck I hate comments like that. If the person is voting based on what that candidate fields as a good platform, it's not throwing their vote away, it's voting how they see fit.

Throwing your vote away is not turning out to vote (unless if your choice is to vote no-one because of the options), or voting because someone is telling you whom to vote for, and not coming to the decision on your own accord.

Toshira · Post by **Toshira** » September 9, 2004, 6:14 pm

Winnow wrote:
Toshira wrote:What a fucking pussy. No idea how republicans can be convinced he will be the "stong" leader we so deperatly need when he's too much of a chicken-shit to even debate.

Go back to your frat house, W.

waaah!

There will be two debates. Chill. Townhouse forums are lame.

You are so right. How could I be so blind? I would hate for our beloved leader to participate in something you deem "lame". Thank you for correcting me Winnow.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » September 9, 2004, 6:17 pm

Toshira wrote:
Winnow wrote:
Toshira wrote:What a fucking pussy. No idea how republicans can be convinced he will be the "stong" leader we so deperatly need when he's too much of a chicken-shit to even debate.

Go back to your frat house, W.

waaah!

There will be two debates. Chill. Townhouse forums are lame.
You are so right. How could I be so blind? I would hate for our beloved leader to participate in something you deem "lame". Thank you for correcting me Winnow.

You were at the Minneapolis Fan Faire?

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » September 9, 2004, 6:43 pm

Winnow wrote:
Toshira wrote:What a fucking pussy. No idea how republicans can be convinced he will be the "stong" leader we so deperatly need when he's too much of a chicken-shit to even debate.

Go back to your frat house, W.

waaah!

There will be two debates. Chill. Townhouse forums are lame.

Yes, because, God forbid your leader has to think on his feet for once.

Cashiers at my local bodega can handle themselves better

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » September 9, 2004, 7:05 pm

You know I don't think that Bush himself said, "I don't feel like doing that debate. I'd rather play Madden that night or get into a pickup raid". I think he has a team that makes all these decisions for him. He may have some input but overall it is his team that lets him know what needs doing.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » September 9, 2004, 7:14 pm

Bubba Grizz wrote:You know I don't think that Bush himself said, "I don't feel like doing that debate. I'd rather play Madden that night or get into a pickup raid". I think he has a team that makes all these decisions for him. He may have some input but overall it is his team that lets him know what needs doing.

True, but if he had any balls he, of course has the power to do the right thing despite what his advisors deem best for "picking up a couple votes"

Siji · Post by **Siji** » September 9, 2004, 7:33 pm

Bubba Grizz wrote:You know I don't think that Bush himself said, "I don't feel like doing that debate. I'd rather play Madden that night or get into a pickup raid". I think he has a team that makes all these decisions for him. He may have some input but overall it is his team that lets him know what needs doing.

But if he's such the better candidate, and has such the better policies and results then he should be eager to show up his rival at any chance he could get.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » September 9, 2004, 8:22 pm

Chidoro wrote:
Yes, because, God forbid your leader has to think on his feet for once.

He's your leader too!

All hail our Commander in Chief! I had to do it when Clinton was in office!

Lets show some solidarity here!

Lohrno · Post by **Lohrno** » September 9, 2004, 8:50 pm

He was never democratically elected into office.

-=Lohrno

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » September 9, 2004, 8:56 pm

Lohrno wrote:He was never democratically elected into office.

-=Lohrno

Well that's a bad attitude! Give him a double hail to make up for it after this election and all is forgiven.

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » September 9, 2004, 9:08 pm

Winnow wrote:He's your leader too!

And Reagan is rotting as we speak

Kluden · Post by **Kluden** » September 10, 2004, 9:34 am

It wasn't throwing my vote away, it was voting for change. Atleast that's how I feel about it. I understand that you, and many others, feel that voting third party is either throwing your vote away, or voting for the incumbent.

I excercise my right to vote. That's not throwing it away, or a waste, or anything of the sort. And no, I didn't vote for Buchanan. I don't think he was on the ballet in my state back in '96.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » September 10, 2004, 3:42 pm

Lohrno wrote:He was never democratically elected into office.

And never did that whole 'i accept becoming the president' thing in public. First president evah! Ask not what your country can do for you, but what your new president can fuck up for your country.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » September 10, 2004, 3:54 pm

First president evah!

He's the first President with a criminal record too. Go Dubya!