Moore wants to go for Best Picture Oscar

Tyek · Post by **Tyek** » September 7, 2004, 11:08 am

http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/200409 ... e&SEC=news

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Michael Moore says he won't submit "Fahrenheit 9/11" for consideration as best documentary at this year's Academy Awards. Instead, he's going for the bigger prize of best picture.

Moore's critically acclaimed film slams President Bush's war on terror as ill-advised and corrupt. The movie has cheered Democrats but enraged the president's supporters, who booed Moore when he visited the Republican National Convention last week.

"For me the real Oscar would be Bush's defeat on Nov. 2," Moore told The Associated Press during a phone interview Monday from New York.

The $6 million film has become a sensation that collected $117.3 million in the United States this summer, despite an early roadblock when the Walt Disney Co. banned its Miramax Films division from distributing the political hot-potato.

In the midst of the presidential campaign, Moore's announcement is a strategic move for his Oscar campaign. Documentaries and animated films have their own categories, but the conventional wisdom in Hollywood is that those niche awards can limit a film's appeal in the overall best picture class.

Moore said he and his producing partner, Harvey Weinstein, agreed "Fahrenheit 9/11" would stand a better chance if they focused solely on the top Oscar.

He also said he wanted to be "supportive of my teammates in nonfiction film."

So many documentaries - such as the gonzo fast-food satire "Super Size Me" and the sober look at Arab television news in "Control Room" - have made the rounds in theaters recently that Moore, who won the best documentary Oscar for "Bowling for Columbine," said he wanted to give others a chance.

"It's not that I want to be disrespectful and say I don't ever want to win a (documentary) Oscar again," Moore said. "This just seems like the right thing to do. ... I don't want to take away from the other nominees and the attention that they richly deserve."

Moore also hinted in a recent interview in Rolling Stone he would like the movie to play on television before the presidential election. According to the rules of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, playing on TV would invalidate its contention in the documentary category, but not for best picture. With the movie coming out on DVD Oct. 5, it's not clear whether the TV deal would happen.

Nominations for the Academy Awards are scheduled to be announced in January.

Regardless of who wins the election, Moore said the movie's presence at the Academy Awards in February will provide another forum for Americans to think about its message.

"The issues in the film - terrorism, the war on terrorism, the Iraq war - will be with us five months from now, sadly," Moore said. "The issues that the film raises will be no less relevant, in the new year."

Damn this guy loves himself. How nice of him to let someone else win his guaranteed Oscar.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » September 7, 2004, 11:16 am

I think i predicted October 5th DVD release back before this movie was even in theaters!

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » September 7, 2004, 4:08 pm

What is the significance of October 5th, Voro? Was it just a random pick on your part, or does that date have some meaning?

Neost · Post by **Neost** » September 7, 2004, 4:15 pm

That date is about 1 month prior to elections.

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » September 7, 2004, 4:24 pm

Oh, ok. I didn't know if it had a deeper meaning behind it, i.e. something Moore said or an important date to either side of the presidential race.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » September 7, 2004, 4:30 pm

Kaldaur wrote:Oh, ok. I didn't know if it had a deeper meaning behind it, i.e. something Moore said or an important date to either side of the presidential race.

Moore's work has no deeper meaning. His documentaries are all superficial.

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » September 7, 2004, 4:41 pm

One question, if Moores movies are all superficial, and all full of lies and propaganda, how come you guys are so worried about them?

Midnyte_Ragebringer · September 7, 2004, 4:41 pm

Winnow wrote:
Kaldaur wrote:Oh, ok. I didn't know if it had a deeper meaning behind it, i.e. something Moore said or an important date to either side of the presidential race.
Moore's work has no deeper meaning. His documentaries are all superficial.

He basically has admitted that by pulling his movie from the "Documentary" category to a purely fictional movie category.

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » September 7, 2004, 4:48 pm

By deeper meaning, I was implying an agenda for picking that date rather than just at random. Obviously, Moore has an agenda with his release date: to get Bush out of office. This is nothing new.
Midnyte, the article stated Moore's reason for switching it. It should be noted that if he leaves 9/11 in the documentary catergory, I guarantee it will be nominated, even though I won't say it will automatically win. It certainly has had more success than any other documentary I can think of to date. Regardless of our personal opinions of the film, never has it been stated that a documentary is 100% truth. I didn't take F9/11 as such, and I doubt the Oscar voters will either. Then again, that is not the requirement of their documentaries. It is an opinion piece, trying to convince you of his opinion. The fact that it meets all the requirements for Oscar contention means it can be submitted for either. It will be interesting to see what he puts it under. What other movies were out this year that could be in the contending for Best Picture? Spiderman 2? That is seriously all I can think of. It's been a blah year so far for movies, at least by my memory. I highly doubt the Punisher is going to take it.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » September 7, 2004, 4:54 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Winnow wrote:
Kaldaur wrote:Oh, ok. I didn't know if it had a deeper meaning behind it, i.e. something Moore said or an important date to either side of the presidential race.
Moore's work has no deeper meaning. His documentaries are all superficial.
He basically has admitted that by pulling his movie from the "Documentary" category to a purely fictional movie category.

Not that i agree with most of Moores views, but "best picture" has never had a limit of purely fictional movies, but of course that comments comming from someone who has never seen the movie, and "knows" it to be propaganda because he has been told it to be propaganda by other sources of propaganda....irony at its best

Like all political opinionated peices, "liberal" or "conservative" there is always a good blend of truth, half-truths and propaganda, it is up to the individual to dig it out... but neocons usually suck at that, as there worlds are for the most part in black or white, terrorist or hero, patriotic or un-american

Midnyte_Ragebringer · September 7, 2004, 4:59 pm

The Village should be nominated.

I will be pissed if they fuck up the Movie of the Year category with his filth. Maybe they should start a new "Propaganda" category for film makers like him.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » September 7, 2004, 5:10 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:The Village should be nominated.

I will be pissed if they fuck up the Movie of the Year category with his filth. Maybe they should start a new "Propaganda" category for film makers like him.

Once again, how do you know that its propaganda?

...and i hope your joking about the Village, not good to have bad taste in politicans and in movies!

Midnyte_Ragebringer · September 7, 2004, 5:30 pm

Xzion wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:The Village should be nominated.

I will be pissed if they fuck up the Movie of the Year category with his filth. Maybe they should start a new "Propaganda" category for film makers like him.
Once again, how do you know that its propaganda?

...and i hope your joking about the Village, not good to have bad taste in politicans and in movies!

LOL, sorry. I really loved The Village. I thought it was brilliant. I wish M Night could put out a new movie every month. The man is a genius.

As far as propaganda....most of us have agreed it's not technically a documentary, but more his vision of an historical event, thus, in my opinion, makes it just propaganda. A documentary, to me, makes no judgements, just tells the story of events how they took place.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » September 7, 2004, 6:02 pm

You wont find any documentary that is 100% unbiased. That said, I hope he wins so neocons like Midnyte and Willow will get their panties even more bunched up about him.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · September 7, 2004, 6:06 pm

Kelshara wrote:You wont find any documentary that is 100% unbiased. That said, I hope he wins so neocons like Midnyte and Willow will get their panties even more bunched up about him.

His name is Winnow, btw.

And this is typical you. You worry about how it will affect two people while us "neocons" (or whatever label of the day you use), try and think about the long term bigger picture.

While what you say about documentaries maybe be true, the intention of the "documentary" is to be unbiased. The intention of Moore's films is anything but unbiased.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » September 7, 2004, 6:14 pm

I used to kinda like you Midnyte, before you said you liked The Village. That movie was 100% pure unfiltered ASS.

Also, I'm glad Moore pulled his movie from the documentary category. This way we won't have to listen to him AT ALL on Oscar night.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » September 7, 2004, 6:23 pm

masteen wrote:I used to kinda like you Midnyte, before you said you liked The Village. That movie was 100% pure unfiltered ASS.

Also, I'm glad Moore pulled his movie from the documentary category. This way we won't have to listen to him AT ALL on Oscar night.

ehh personally i lost all faith in the Oscars when Ridley Scott lost best director for gladiator and chicago won so many godamn awards...so i cna give two shits what they put out

...like him or not at least Michael Moore added some spice to the usually boring ass show, look how dull it was last year, despite LOTR

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » September 7, 2004, 6:42 pm

I think Willow fits him much better. And with all the whining you guys do Midntye you bet I hope he wins so mess some more with your heads. And winning or not for him has zero to do with the bigger picture or long-term.

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » September 7, 2004, 6:43 pm

I liked the Village...grab your swords, Midnyte, we're under attack.

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » September 7, 2004, 6:55 pm

Xzion wrote: ehh personally i lost all faith in the Oscars when Ridley Scott lost best director for gladiator and chicago won so many godamn awards...

you should have lost faith when Titanic won best picture

...or when Baz Luhrman got snubbed for a best director nomination for Moulin Rouge.

that did it for me....but I still watch

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » September 7, 2004, 7:01 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:LOL, sorry. I really loved The Village. I thought it was brilliant. I wish M Night could put out a new movie every month. The man is a genius.

I read a review saying that the climax of that movie was so insipid that even a retards would have their intelligence insulted by it. I guess that guy was wrong.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · September 7, 2004, 7:55 pm

Kaldaur wrote:I liked the Village...grab your swords, Midnyte, we're under attack.

Yes! Everyone hide....errrr....and don't look outside whatever you do....cause....errr....ummm....they will....ummmm... kill you if they see you...yeah.....thats it!

Markulas · Post by **Markulas** » September 7, 2004, 8:43 pm

The guy makes more money than me.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » September 7, 2004, 8:47 pm

kyoukan wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:LOL, sorry. I really loved The Village. I thought it was brilliant. I wish M Night could put out a new movie every month. The man is a genius.
I read a review saying that the climax of that movie was so insipid that even a retards would have their intelligence insulted by it. I guess that guy was wrong.

Dont worry Sponge Bob the movie is on its way Bitch!
That should make you happy.

Sirton · Post by **Sirton** » September 7, 2004, 9:52 pm

Man this years Oscars will suck atleast I can see it getting abit crazy...can just imagine with so many lame movies this year.

I can just imagine now. It will be two very different spectrum movies F9/11 vs. The Passion of the Christ, so the media can pump up there ratings!

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » September 7, 2004, 11:43 pm

Documentaries involve facts, so the fact that he has yet to make one would
preclude him from winning a documentary award in a sane world.

Oh yeah, and his fat ass is NOT from Flint, Michigan

Post by **Sylvus** » September 8, 2004, 11:08 am

He's basically from Flint. He's from like 10 minutes away. It's easier to say that he's from Flint as it's the biggest city in the urban area that he lives in. It's not like he said he was in Texas serving in the armed forces when he was actually in another state and skipping required military physicals.

I still want to bet that most of you who are saying that it isn't a documentary haven't even seen it. Not only that, I'm willing to bet that you haven't watched a documentary that didn't contain opinion. I contend that nine times out of ten a documentary is made with the sole purpose of making a statement about its subject matter.

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » September 8, 2004, 11:27 am

Yeah well..

What I want are nymphomaniac twins that don’t make my dick rot.

Akaran Chronicles 2: Assassinations and Executions

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » September 8, 2004, 4:14 pm

Sylvus wrote:He's basically from Flint. He's from like 10 minutes away. It's easier to say that he's from Flint as it's the biggest city in the urban area that he lives in. It's not like he said he was in Texas serving in the armed forces when he was actually in another state and skipping required military physicals.

I still want to bet that most of you who are saying that it isn't a documentary haven't even seen it. Not only that, I'm willing to bet that you haven't watched a documentary that didn't contain opinion. I contend that nine times out of ten a documentary is made with the sole purpose of making a statement about its subject matter.

even "super size me"with the dude that ate mcdonalds for a month was biased
Its just that neocons are scared of michael moore, when most of us could give two shits what the man chooses to make

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » September 8, 2004, 4:22 pm

Try as you might, the term "neocon" doesn't sound as bad as "liberal". You can dream up new terms if you want but it's conservative vs liberal! Use conservative! I don't see people using neolib to get a point across!

conservative = respected term
neocon = wtf is that?
liberal = ewwwww!

miir · Post by **miir** » September 8, 2004, 4:28 pm

It's not really meant to sound bad or as an insult.

Many of the Bush supporters here are not 'true' conservatives and lean more towards neoconservatism. Neocon is not a vulgar or derrogatory term, it's just a political label.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » September 8, 2004, 6:51 pm

Sylvus wrote:He's basically from Flint. He's from like 10 minutes away. It's easier to say that he's from Flint as it's the biggest city in the urban area that he lives in. It's not like he said he was in Texas serving in the armed forces when he was actually in another state and skipping required military physicals.

I still want to bet that most of you who are saying that it isn't a documentary haven't even seen it. Not only that, I'm willing to bet that you haven't watched a documentary that didn't contain opinion. I contend that nine times out of ten a documentary is made with the sole purpose of making a statement about its subject matter.

From downtown Flint to Downtown Davison via highway is 25 minutes, and back roads it is 45. When you live are born in Brighton Michigan, you say you were born in Brighton, not in Ann Arbor unless you have a reason to deceive people. Same for Middletown ohio caliming to be from Cincy, or Pueblo Colorado claiming to be from Colorado Springs.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » September 8, 2004, 7:12 pm

Winnow wrote:Try as you might, the term "neocon" doesn't sound as bad as "liberal". You can dream up new terms if you want but it's conservative vs liberal! Use conservative! I don't see people using neolib to get a point across!

conservative = respected term
neocon = wtf is that?
liberal = ewwwww!

Maybe to you because you are a conservative, an atheist pro-choice, anti censorship (to my knowledge) pro gay rights(i think) conservative, one that would be shunned by your fellow conservatives and neocons,
personally i can give two shits about labels...economically i would be by some peoples viewpoints pretty moderate/fiscally conservative..but when it comes to international policy and domestic issues, to most i am a hard core liberal...people are what they are, call me a hashashabba if you think by your terms thats an appropriate political label

conservative used to mean low government spending, pro freedom and pro constitution...neocons have a different viewpoints and several of there views are adressed threw religion (anti abortion rights/ anti gay rights/ pro heavy government spending/ pro censorship)
John McCain is a true conservative

Bush/Falwell/Buchanan/Miller/ashcroft etc are by the new political term "neocons"

and keep up with the times winnow! now liberals call themselves "progressives", so if you want we can go conservative vs progressive....

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » September 8, 2004, 7:19 pm

Kylere wrote:
Sylvus wrote:He's basically from Flint. He's from like 10 minutes away. It's easier to say that he's from Flint as it's the biggest city in the urban area that he lives in. It's not like he said he was in Texas serving in the armed forces when he was actually in another state and skipping required military physicals.

I still want to bet that most of you who are saying that it isn't a documentary haven't even seen it. Not only that, I'm willing to bet that you haven't watched a documentary that didn't contain opinion. I contend that nine times out of ten a documentary is made with the sole purpose of making a statement about its subject matter.

From downtown Flint to Downtown Davison via highway is 25 minutes, and back roads it is 45. When you live are born in Brighton Michigan, you say you were born in Brighton, not in Ann Arbor unless you have a reason to deceive people. Same for Middletown ohio caliming to be from Cincy, or Pueblo Colorado claiming to be from Colorado Springs.

my town is a good 20 minutes away from downtown orlando, but i still say im from orlando, because noone knows where the fuck windermere is if i were to say "im from windermere"
but do you really give a shit if some fatass filmaker says hes from a town he was born near to?

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » September 8, 2004, 7:54 pm

If the Neocons didn't bitch so much about Moore nobody would care about him.

Oh and Winnow is a closet liberal.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » September 8, 2004, 8:07 pm

I doubt he would have won in the Documentary category anyway. I think it will go to Super Size Me.

(Although I don't know what all other films will be in that category!)

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » September 8, 2004, 11:48 pm

Xzion wrote:
Kylere wrote:
Sylvus wrote:He's basically from Flint. He's from like 10 minutes away. It's easier to say that he's from Flint as it's the biggest city in the urban area that he lives in. It's not like he said he was in Texas serving in the armed forces when he was actually in another state and skipping required military physicals.

I still want to bet that most of you who are saying that it isn't a documentary haven't even seen it. Not only that, I'm willing to bet that you haven't watched a documentary that didn't contain opinion. I contend that nine times out of ten a documentary is made with the sole purpose of making a statement about its subject matter.
From downtown Flint to Downtown Davison via highway is 25 minutes, and back roads it is 45. When you live are born in Brighton Michigan, you say you were born in Brighton, not in Ann Arbor unless you have a reason to deceive people. Same for Middletown ohio caliming to be from Cincy, or Pueblo Colorado claiming to be from Colorado Springs.
my town is a good 20 minutes away from downtown orlando, but i still say im from orlando, because noone knows where the fuck windermere is if i were to say "im from windermere"
but do you really give a shit if some fatass filmaker says hes from a town he was born near to?

While I was in the Army and people asked me where I was from, be they Americans, or Europeans or even Saudi's my answer was Flint, Michigan. When they asked where ti was I told them either a few hours NE of Chicago, or 30 minutes NW of Detroit. But I did not randomly pick a nearer larger population center and claim it. Not to mention i did not make a film that bashed my so called hometown while claiming to be a native son. He lies more than he tells the truth, Ollie North is more honest thant Michael Moore.

As a lawyer would say, "It speaks to the reliability of the witness"

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » September 9, 2004, 12:30 am

Xzion wrote:Maybe to you because you are a conservative, an atheist pro-choice, anti censorship (to my knowledge) pro gay rights(i think) conservative, one that would be shunned by your fellow conservatives and neocons

you forgot a supporter of stem cell research who values the environment.

but apparently for Winnow, supporting a political party has nothing to do with his own values.

at least I can respect Adex for his political orientation.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » September 9, 2004, 9:13 pm

He's basically from Flint. He's from like 10 minutes away. It's easier to say that he's from Flint as it's the biggest city in the urban area that he lives in.

Completely agree. I always tell people I live in Seattle, but I actually live on an island that is a 35 minute ferry ride from Seattle. Look at my avatar, it has always said Seattle, because noone knows where or what the fuck Bainbridge Island is. It has always been much easier to just say Seattle. Use some fucking common sense Kylere, your argument is bullshit.

Documentaries involve facts, so the fact that he has yet to make one would
preclude him from winning a documentary award in a sane world.

Actually, you are pulling that right out of your ass. It is not about facts, it is about getting your point across. Many documentaries don't even have facts, they are interviews of people stating their various opinions.

Moore's film was and opinion peice that did have tons valid facts that you choose to ignore because you've heard a few of them may be spun. Yet you blindly accept most everything Bush says to be fact. Stop giving yourself excuse to not watch the movie. You are patheticaly easy to see through.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » September 9, 2004, 9:35 pm

name a movie in the last 10 years that's made more people talk about it more and I will agree with you that it doesn't deserve best picture.

Thess · Post by **Thess** » September 9, 2004, 9:50 pm

Passions of the christ!

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » September 9, 2004, 9:54 pm

Keverian FireCry wrote:
He's basically from Flint. He's from like 10 minutes away. It's easier to say that he's from Flint as it's the biggest city in the urban area that he lives in.
Completely agree. I always tell people I live in Seattle, but I actually live on an island that is a 35 minute ferry ride from Seattle. Look at my avatar, it has always said Seattle, because noone knows where or what the fuck Bainbridge Island is. It has always been much easier to just say Seattle. Use some fucking common sense Kylere, your argument is bullshit.

Documentaries involve facts, so the fact that he has yet to make one would
preclude him from winning a documentary award in a sane world.

Actually, you are pulling that right out of your ass. It is not about facts, it is about getting your point across. Many documentaries don't even have facts, they are interviews of people stating their various opinions.

Moore's film was and opinion peice that did have tons valid facts that you choose to ignore because you've heard a few of them may be spun. Yet you blindly accept most everything Bush says to be fact. Stop giving yourself excuse to not watch the movie. You are patheticaly easy to see through.

Umm Keverian

1. You have not made any movies slamming Seattle while claiming to be from there
2. You have no claimed to have bene voted to the Seattle Board of Education at the age of 18 (Moore claimed Flint, but it was actually Davison a town with 1/20th the population)
2. Obviously you have not read my view on Bush in a year, because I have not backed any of his rhetoric, and I point out the value pof both sides since I am voting for neither Bad Bush or Dumb Kerry.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » September 9, 2004, 9:58 pm

My bad, I apologize on that part. I guess after all your many posts about Michael Moore not living in Flint I got you confused with the Midnyte Ignoramus Alliance.

You really are obsessed with the fact that Moore spun some facts about his relationship with Flint though...and I still don't see what that has to do with the tons of documented facts throughout Fahrenheit 9/11.

Markulas · Post by **Markulas** » September 9, 2004, 10:00 pm

I think at least things happening 30 miles away from where you live, could very well affect what's happening in your life.

Tyek · Post by **Tyek** » September 9, 2004, 11:58 pm

name a movie in the last 10 years that's made more people talk about it more and I will agree with you that it doesn't deserve best picture

.

Talk does not mean it is good or bad. Showgirls got a lot of talk about it and it was horrible. Passion of the Christ, Last Temptation of Christ, hell even Jar Jar Binks had lots of talk about him, it did not make him cool.

What I found funny about the article is his claim about respecting the other documentaries out there, but by pulling out to give another a chance he is essentially saying, "I already would have won this Oscar lets go for the big one, if I don't win I can always infer I won the other."

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » September 10, 2004, 2:13 am

yes because showgirls and jar jar binks really inspired people to debate about important issues, and by talking what I meant was just opening my mouth and letting words come out of it. so the comparison to showgirls and jar jar binks is completely valid. also, your post wasn't fucking stupid.

Tyek · Post by **Tyek** » September 10, 2004, 3:01 am

Thanks for the compliment on my post.

I did not realize that by showing one person's side of a story qualified someone for the Academy Award.

So if some right wing wacko put together a documentary about some Liberal leader and everyone talked about it you would put it up for an award?

You say my post is stupid but it is just as valid as yours. He made people talk, that does not make it an automatic award winner. While I think you make valid points at times I cannot figure out your constant need to insult everyone. You do not know everything, sorry if this is news to you.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » September 10, 2004, 3:16 am

film is art. what is the purpose of art if people don't discuss their opinions about it?

Tyek · Post by **Tyek** » September 10, 2004, 3:25 am

I never said it was not art, I said that just because it causes a discussion does not make it a winner.

Frankly I think more people are affected by health issues directly related to bad eating habits. A film like Supersize Me is maybe more important because a larger segment of many populations is at risk due to the fast food culture we live in.

That said I do not think it should win the Academy Award for Best Picture, I think that should go to someone who used film the best way. Like you said, the one who created the best art.

I am not a person who flames others, I know that makes me a weakling in this website, but for us to drag every issue into a Bush/Kerry debate is tiring. I was more amused that Moore thinks so greatly of himself that he is above those other documentaries and so he is going to allow somone to win instead of him. How noble of him.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » September 10, 2004, 4:26 am

kyoukan wrote:film is art. what is the purpose of art if people don't discuss their opinions about it?

Here's some artistic prose that's also meant to be discussed:

Michael Moore is a tool. The end.

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That can be interpreted several different ways! There is so much meaning packed into so few words. Would the body of text have more impact without the additional "The end" sentence added or do those last two words give a sense of finality to the entire composition thus allowing the reader to catch their mental breath and ponder its significance? Is tool intented to mean that Michael Moore is a tool used by the democrats or is tool defined as, "an obscene term for penis" in this masterpiece? I think the author, we'll call the author Winnster to protect their artistic identity, cunningly intertwined the two meanings into one. I could go on forever but I must ration my attention here in order to cover all forms of art equally. Next up: Ink blots.

Art is meant to be discussed. It doesn't matter if it's a non factual movie or a chunk of petrified poop used as a hat.