Sylvus wrote:
I suppose you could consider that a pretty thin silver lining out of the whole mess. I still think the net result in Iraq - when you subtract the dead terrorists that we lucked out and killed in iraq from the number that are visiting their local terrorist recruiter's office to sign up - will end up being more terrorists and a bunch of dead civillians and American troops.
I don't buy into there being more terrorists because we are in Afghanistan and Iraq. I feel there would be many more if we didn't go into Afghanistan, remove the Taliban from power and let Saddam continue to cause trouble and support terrorism in the middle east. Doing nothing would have been all the motivation needed for Osama to recruit huge numbers and confidence to reek havok on western interests all over the globe. It's wishful thinking that somehow plowing two airplanes into the World Trade Centers and destroying two other planes would end the war and Osama would call it even and retire. Not a chance. It was only going to get worse and there was no indication of the Taliban, Osama or Saddam wanting to show their "softer side" to their war against the west after 911.
Notice I didn't mention Afghanistan in that post. I agreed with going into Afghanistan. I disagree with Iraq. You seem to be linking Iraq to Osama and the Taliban, and I disagree with that as well.
I think that going into Iraq is making people who might not have seen us in such a poor light feeling more sympathetic to Al Qeada's cause.
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Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:And when we pull out of Iraq and they have a government in place that actually hold elections, then who will they blame for their problems?
Do you actually think there will democratic elections in Iraq?
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Sylvus wrote:Notice I didn't mention Afghanistan in that post. I agreed with going into Afghanistan. I disagree with Iraq. You seem to be linking Iraq to Osama and the Taliban, and I disagree with that as well.
I think that going into Iraq is making people who might not have seen us in such a poor light feeling more sympathetic to Al Qeada's cause.
I see it as removing an asshole that would do whatever he could to help terrorists if he remained in power. Libya is proof that our actions have caused some regimes to change their tune as they know it's not all fun and games with the U.S. anymore and there's a high probablility of action against any form of disrupting activity. I don't see many threats coming out of Syria or any other country in the middle east these days. Iran is smart enough to stay mostly quiet with the bulk of the U.S. military on their doorstep.
Saddam was a huge disrupting force in the middle east and his removal is a positive. Just taking out Saddam wasn't going to change anything. Taking out his sons wasn't going to change anything. The country needs at least a chance to form a new government.
Libya is proof that our actions have caused some regimes to change their tune as they know it's not all fun and games with the U.S. anymore and there's a high probablility of action against any form of disrupting activity.
Libya wanted to "give it up" for a good while, but it didn't benefit the US to acknowledge it before they did. If anything Libya is proof that given time, sanctions work.
I don't see many threats coming out of Syria or any other country in the middle east these days. Iran is smart enough to stay mostly quiet with the bulk of the U.S. military on their doorstep.
Except the funding of terrorists from among others Saudi Arabia. Oh and Iran working towards nuclear weapons. And guess what, unrelented to this though.. so is South Korea!
Saddam was a huge disrupting force in the middle east and his removal is a positive.
The only real disruptive force in the middle east is the Israel-Palestine situation.
"Libya wanted to "give it up" for a good while, but it didn't benefit the US to acknowledge it before they did. If anything Libya is proof that given time, sanctions work. "
